• Health Update

    From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to All on Sun May 31 20:17:00 2020
    I'm to have a COVID-19 nasal swab on June 1, in preparation
    for outpatient laparoscopic hernia surgery on June 4. I'll
    post a message after the surgery.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to All on Wed Jun 17 18:21:00 2020
    Good news on the health front...

    I had laparoscopic hernia surgery 2 weeks ago, and today, I
    had a follow-up exam with the surgeon.

    The surgery went very well, and the pain was relatively
    minor...far less than expected. So much so, that I only
    needed Tylenol and Ibuprofen to take care of things. I
    am wearing a girdle/binder for support, and while I can
    drive again, I'm still using the girdle/binder when lifting
    things, but I'm still being careful...as I don't want to
    undo the surgery.

    The surgeon was very pleased with the recovery. Plus, I
    wanted to take care of the hernia (I got to keep the navel),
    before it worked toward the colon or the groin.

    Daryl

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  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jun 23 00:48:05 2020
    I had laparoscopic hernia surgery 2 weeks ago, and today, I
    had a follow-up exam with the surgeon.
    The surgery went very well, and the pain was relatively
    minor...far less than expected. So much so, that I only
    needed Tylenol and Ibuprofen to take care of things. I
    am wearing a girdle/binder for support, and while I can
    drive again, I'm still using the girdle/binder when lifting

    Take it very easy...even after getting rid of the girdle. Am glad to hear it went well without all the drama & such.

    Even had to take a colon test a couple of months ago. At 58...they said I was normal. Hearing that...I cried for joy. The reason...have had the "truck driver's syndrome" since my early 20's & didn't want anything causing more
    pain than what I feel through the years.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Don Lowery on Wed Jun 24 12:36:00 2020
    Don,

    am wearing a girdle/binder for support, and while I can
    drive again, I'm still using the girdle/binder when lifting

    Take it very easy...even after getting rid of the girdle. Am glad to
    hear it went well without all the drama & such.

    I hate to see the overnight hospital bill...but with no family member
    to stay with me, and all our friends working with families, it's nearly impossible to get someone to stay with us overnight...even if we could
    get a driver to and from the facility. With being on a fixed income, I
    likely can get that written off.

    My brother is in worse physical shape than I am, having nearly been
    killed in a freak motorcycle wreck not 3 months after my wife died of
    a heart attack over 13 years ago, not 3 months after I lost my Dad to pancreatic cancer. We have no other family in the local area (we are
    the last of our line, as it were)...the other relatives are out of
    state, and there's no way they can come here to take care of us, or
    vice versa.

    I am taking it easy...I surely don't want to undo the surgery.

    Even had to take a colon test a couple of months ago. At 58...they said
    I was normal. Hearing that...I cried for joy. The reason...have had the "truck driver's syndrome" since my early 20's & didn't want anything causing more pain than what I feel through the years.

    I've had several colonoscopies over the years...some have had nothing,
    and others had benign polyps...but no cancer. I doubt any family has
    escaped that scourge. I lost an uncle to colon cancer...my Dad and his
    sister to pancreatic cancer...and my grandmother to lung cancer.

    While the prep work for the colonoscopy is a PITA (especially with hemorrhoids), unlike most other cancers...colon cancer is one of the
    most preventable. But, it is the second greatest killer of men and
    women, right behind (no pun intended) heart disease and breast cancer.

    It's too bad we can't use the gas afterwards in our vehicles.
    Otherwise, I'd get a pallet of Bush's Baked Beans, ask Duke for
    the secret formula, and tell OPEC what they can do with their gas
    prices. <G>

    But, the abdominal pain from diverticulitis is worse than a woman's
    monthly cycle.

    Just before my wife and I got married, she had to have a colonoscopy
    done. When I went to pick her up, they thought her married name was
    what her maiden name was, and when they addressed me as that, I said
    "Not quite". When she talked to her Mom (who's black, and her Dad is white...but they're both a couple of nuts <G>), she said "I'll bet you
    didn't think you had a son that looked like him!!" <BG>.

    Daryl

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Daryl Stout on Thu Jun 25 07:37:00 2020
    Daryl Stout wrote to Don Lowery <=-

    Even had to take a colon test a couple of months ago. At 58...they said
    I was normal. Hearing that...I cried for joy. The reason...have had the "truck driver's syndrome" since my early 20's & didn't want anything causing more pain than what I feel through the years.

    I've had several colonoscopies over the years...some have had
    nothing, and others had benign polyps...but no cancer. I doubt any
    family has escaped that scourge. I lost an uncle to colon cancer...my
    Dad and his sister to pancreatic cancer...and my grandmother to lung cancer.

    Colon cancer runs in my family on my mom's side - 2 great uncles died
    from it, and my mother was successfully treated years ago. I've been
    getting regular colonoscopies since I was 40. I'm 54 now.

    The laxative prep is a pain, but given that beer is OK beforehand,
    living on jello, broth and beer is an interesting experience.




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  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jun 26 09:48:14 2020
    I hate to see the overnight hospital bill...but with no family member
    to stay with me, and all our friends working with families, it's nearly

    Having been alone for decades...this never bothered me. What surprised me was when co-workers/friends came to visit me.

    I am taking it easy...I surely don't want to undo the surgery.

    Good to hear!

    While the prep work for the colonoscopy is a PITA (especially with hemorrhoids), unlike most other cancers...colon cancer is one of the
    most preventable. But, it is the second greatest killer of men and
    women, right behind (no pun intended) heart disease and breast cancer.

    The last 1 you mentioned was something else men should be tested for as well.

    But, the abdominal pain from diverticulitis is worse than a woman's monthly cycle.

    Had friends with this & it's worse. My kidney stones the 1st time would beat both of these.

    "Not quite". When she talked to her Mom (who's black, and her Dad is white...but they're both a couple of nuts <G>), she said "I'll bet you didn't think you had a son that looked like him!!" <BG>.

    ;)

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Kurt Weiske on Fri Jun 26 10:12:00 2020
    Kurt,

    Colon cancer runs in my family on my mom's side - 2 great uncles died
    from it, and my mother was successfully treated years ago. I've been
    getting regular colonoscopies since I was 40. I'm 54 now.

    I got you beat by 6 years. <G> A few years back, when I was having one
    done, there was an 85 year old woman, getting her first one. My GI doctor,
    a nice black man, was very annoyed with her for waiting so long.

    The laxative prep is a pain, but given that beer is OK beforehand,
    living on jello, broth and beer is an interesting experience.

    Now, I know beer is a diurectic, but I thought that any alcoholic
    beverage would dehydrate you in a big way...never mind you're losing
    all that fluid with repeated (but needed) bouts of diarrhea...never
    mind setting your butt on fire. :P As noted, one woman thought vodka
    was "a clear liquid", but her heart stopped during the procedure. They
    had to forget about the colonoscopy and get "the crash cart" to get
    her back to life. Then, she had to do the prep work again, and then
    pay the full fee the second time.

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    I already have degenerative disk disease there, and my neck bones
    are severely kinked...and the neck pain was bothering me overnight.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Don Lowery on Sat Jun 27 15:16:00 2020
    Don,

    Having been alone for decades...this never bothered me. What surprised
    me was when co-workers/friends came to visit me.

    What was strange is that before I got married, I was happy being single. Then, when I got married over 17 years ago, I was happy. But, after being
    a widower over 13 years, while I'm busier than I was when I was married,
    some days, it does get awfully lonely. At this stage of life, so many
    folks have "too much baggage and drama" to deal with...and I don't want,
    or need that.

    Good to hear!

    I'm hoping to get the one night stay written off. Since I basically
    have no family locally (my brother is in worse physical shape than I
    am, and I nearly suffocate around him, as he smokes and drinks), and
    all my friends work, and have families, it's difficult to get a ride
    to and from the facility, but impossible to get someone to stay with
    me overnight at the house. Both parents are dead and gone now.

    The last 1 you mentioned was something else men should be tested for as well.

    I know a male ham radio operator who is a breast cancer survivor.
    While not as common as breast cancer in women, it does occur in men.

    Had friends with this & it's worse. My kidney stones the 1st time would beat both of these.

    One woman told me that she would rather have quintuplets (5 at once),
    in hard labor, with no anesthesia or epidural...than 1 kidney stone.
    That pretty much sums it up.

    Another woman told me "If we women can pass a kid, you men can pass
    a kidney stone". I told her "But, unlike the female cervix, the male
    penis can NOT dialate".

    "Not quite". When she talked to her Mom (who's black, and her Dad is white...but they're both a couple of nuts <G>), she said "I'll bet you didn't think you had a son that looked like him!!" <BG>.

    ;)

    When talking to her Mom nowadays, and I make a real bad pun, etc.,
    I'm told "Go to your room!!" <BG>.

    Daryl

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  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Daryl Stout on Sun Jun 28 08:58:48 2020
    Having been alone for decades...this never bothered me. What
    surprise
    What was strange is that before I got married, I was happy being
    single. Then, when I got married over 17 years ago, I was happy. But, after being a widower over 13 years, while I'm busier than I was when I was married, some days, it does get awfully lonely. At this stage of
    life, so many folks have "too much baggage and drama" to deal with...and
    I don't want, or need that.

    In my case...back in the 80's...it was endless marriage this...marriage that. Just bothering with that was enough to drive anyone crazy.

    Know fully well about the loneliness. Am by myself & have no one to talk to...except for on here. Add on all the garbage from someone else...that
    Mystic Rat was right...don't marry or sleep with anyone else with more
    problems than you have.

    all my friends work, and have families, it's difficult to get a ride
    to and from the facility, but impossible to get someone to stay with
    me overnight at the house. Both parents are dead and gone now.

    Yep! It's almost to the point that you better hope you have a taxi there & back. In terms of parents...been estranged from those Klan scumbags others
    call family for 30 years & am better for it. Don't even know who's still
    alive or dead or care. They are not part of my life or even want them to be part of any type of my life.

    One woman told me that she would rather have quintuplets (5 at once),
    in hard labor, with no anesthesia or epidural...than 1 kidney stone.
    That pretty much sums it up.
    Another woman told me "If we women can pass a kid, you men can pass
    a kidney stone". I told her "But, unlike the female cervix, the male
    penis can NOT dialate".

    1st time with stones was the only time I've been given morphine. Even 30
    years later...never had another shot...since it's the greatest stuff in the world & I would abuse it like crazy.

    When talking to her Mom nowadays, and I make a real bad pun, etc.,
    I'm told "Go to your room!!" <BG>.

    At least 1 good thing...we have our toys there & can't get them taken away. Even have a half bag of fake corn chips beside me on the desk...so I have
    food. ;D

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Don Lowery on Mon Jun 29 22:12:00 2020
    Don,

    In my case...back in the 80's...it was endless marriage this...marriage that. Just bothering with that was enough to drive anyone crazy.

    It's like the taglines "Marriage is SAME SEX -- the same sex all over again!!", and "Sex is a Misdemeanor. The more ya miss, da meaner ya get". <G>

    Know fully well about the loneliness. Am by myself & have no one to
    talk to...except for on here. Add on all the garbage from someone else...that Mystic Rat was right...don't marry or sleep with anyone
    else with more problems than you have.

    I have my ham radio, square dance, and BBS friends, but that's it. I
    talk to a lady friend who lives with her boyfriend. I keep them informed
    about bad weather, as their dachshund (who is spoiled rotten, and thinks
    of me as "his uncle"), doesn't like thunder crashes, gunfire, firecrackers, etc. -- can't say that I blame him. I took the BBS down overnight just after nightly maintenance, due to approaching thunderstorms...and they were all
    over the region today. There were several severe thunderstorm warnings, numerous flash flood warnings, and even a tornado warning for a storm that
    was 40 miles to my southwest, moving northeast. The thunder didn't end here until 6pm local time.

    Yep! It's almost to the point that you better hope you have a taxi
    there & back. In terms of parents...been estranged from those Klan scumbags others call family for 30 years & am better for it. Don't even know who's still alive or dead or care. They are not part of my life or even want them to be part of any type of my life.

    The facilities here will NOT let you take public transportation, because
    of the liability issues. You have to have an individual bring you there,
    stay there while you're in prep, surgery, and recovery, then take you home,
    and stay with you overnight. Otherwise, you have to do as I do...spend the night in the hospital...which the insurance companies don't like to pay for...but they refuse to consider that "I basically have no family left".

    My brother is in worse physical shape than I am, from a freak motorcycle wreck not 3 months after my wife died over 13 years ago, that nearly killed him. He was impatient, went to pass a car that was going too slow for his liking, and a mailbox on the side of the road caught the handlebar of his motorcycle. It stopped...he didn't...flying off it onto the pavement. He
    had shorts on, but nothing else...not even a helmet. He broke his shoulder, ankle, and elbow, plus fractured his hip. He's lucky to be alive...and is
    so bummed up now with arthritis, that the pain meds don't even work for
    him, anymore.

    1st time with stones was the only time I've been given morphine. Even
    30 years later...never had another shot...since it's the greatest stuff
    in the world & I would abuse it like crazy.

    They gave me that morphine, and it shut my colon down. It was a bear to "clear the plumbing" as it were. :P

    At least 1 good thing...we have our toys there & can't get them taken away. Even have a half bag of fake corn chips beside me on the
    desk...so I have food. ;D

    As long as I can do my hobbies at the computer, I'm content. Of course,
    when the weather is bad, like it was today...I try to catch up on sleep.
    Of course, when the weather radio alarm is constantly going off, that
    kind of squelches that idea. The thing is, if it's a possible tornado
    to my southwest, I'm going to stay awake for it.

    Daryl

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  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jun 30 00:37:05 2020
    It's like the taglines "Marriage is SAME SEX -- the same sex all over again!!", and "Sex is a Misdemeanor. The more ya miss, da meaner ya
    get". <G>

    Very true. The 1st question I asked myself when I got served was who am I
    going to have sex with now?

    take you home, and stay with you overnight. Otherwise, you have to do as
    I do...spend the night in the hospital...which the insurance companies don't like to pay for...but they refuse to consider that "I basically
    have no family left".

    There is 1 more option...wonder how the hospital/insurance companies would
    like to have reporters bringing this on the nightly news?

    They gave me that morphine, and it shut my colon down. It was a bear to "clear the plumbing" as it were. :P

    I can tell you that the walls are not naturally that color...because
    originally being white or something close to that doesn't match what you should've ended up with at that time. ;D

    kind of squelches that idea. The thing is, if it's a possible tornado
    to my southwest, I'm going to stay awake for it.

    That is something I never missed all these years.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Don Lowery on Wed Jul 1 19:05:00 2020
    Don,

    It's like the taglines "Marriage is SAME SEX -- the same sex all over again!!", and "Sex is a Misdemeanor. The more ya miss, da meaner ya
    get". <G>

    Very true. The 1st question I asked myself when I got served was who am
    I going to have sex with now?

    Well, aside from masturbation, abstinence, being with a faithful partner,
    and "one safe humping another", that's the only "safe sex" available. :P

    Or as ventriloquist Jeff Dunham's dummy, Walter noted...in describing
    "oral sex". Walter's wife said "screw you", and he replied "bite me". :P

    There is 1 more option...wonder how the hospital/insurance companies
    would like to have reporters bringing this on the nightly news?

    I've been able to get a payment plan set up, or it written off...
    especially when I show my disability letter from Social Security.

    I can tell you that the walls are not naturally that color...because originally being white or something close to that doesn't match what
    you should've ended up with at that time. ;D

    Actually, the color of ones [poop] can be an indicator of something
    more serious. If it's black, it means internal bleeding...and if it's
    another color, it's a bile issue with the liver. There are other things
    in a thread I have on the BBS called "The Scoop On Poop"...but I moved
    the QWK Mail and my terminal client to the laptop computer in my room.
    The BBS is in my late parents bedroom.

    kind of squelches that idea. The thing is, if it's a possible tornado
    to my southwest, I'm going to stay awake for it.

    That is something I never missed all these years.

    Well, sometimes you can't stay awake...but hearing loud hail, a loud
    roar, or tornado sirens, tends to get your attention.

    Daryl

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  • From Don Lowery@1:340/1000 to Daryl Stout on Thu Jul 2 13:22:14 2020
    Very true. The 1st question I asked myself when I got served was who I going to have sex with now?
    Well, aside from masturbation, abstinence, being with a faithful partner, and "one safe humping another", that's the only "safe sex" available. :P

    Took me a few minutes to figure this one out. ;)

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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Jul 4 18:02:25 2020
    Hi & welcome, Kurt! I recognized your name from other echoes but don't recall seeing it here before. Recently you wrote in a message to Daryl Stout:

    The laxative prep is a pain,


    Yeah. I didn't find the stuff tasted too bad if it was well chilled beforehand, but it took me 5 1/2 hours to get through 4 litres (about a gallon in US measurements) of it. I was glad I had hung in there when another person who said he'd finished most but not all of it was informed he'd have to repeat the whole process because his innards weren't clean enough... [wry grin].



    but given that beer is OK beforehand,


    It seems to me a lot depends on who you ask. My impression was that alcoholic beverages are OK until you start drinking the laxative prep.... :-)



    living on jello, broth and beer is an interesting
    experience.


    Uh-huh. I often found myself tempted to grab a morsel of real food. But I see you neglected apple juice, which contains a good balance of minerals and which seemed to help me while I was in the process of doing the prep. ;-)




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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Ardith Hinton on Sun Jul 5 07:27:00 2020
    Ardith Hinton wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Hi & welcome, Kurt! I recognized your name from other echoes but don't recall seeing it here before. Recently you wrote in a message to Daryl Stout:

    I think this was my first post here, been on Fidonet since 1991. :)

    Yeah. I didn't find the stuff tasted too bad if it was well chilled beforehand, but it took me 5 1/2 hours to get through 4 litres (about a gallon in US measurements) of it.

    Argh - yes. The older prep, which apparently had some bad side
    effects was much easier - I think it was 32 oz?

    Uh-huh. I often found myself tempted to grab a morsel of
    real food. But I see you neglected apple juice, which contains a good balance of minerals and which seemed to help me while I was in the
    process of doing the prep.

    I don't recall apple juice being on the recommended list where I
    went. The prohibited foods were mostly anything dark or red. I'll
    need to try apple juice, as I'm about due for another one.

    I recover well from the anaesthesia, so always look forward to the
    first meal afterwards. Last was a San Francisco-style Carne Asada
    burrito. Gotta have something to look forward to...









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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Jul 6 14:58:00 2020
    Kurt,

    Argh - yes. The older prep, which apparently had some bad side
    effects was much easier - I think it was 32 oz?

    That My-Lytely was NASTY. The lemon flavoring was so acidic and
    tart, that it reacted violently with the stomach acid I had, and I
    could not finish the prep work...as my throat and esophagus were
    burning.

    The next time I have one done, I'm doing 2 citrate of magnesia
    (Clear), 8 hours apart...with 2 Ducolax on the first one, and 1
    Ducolax on the second one. After the first one, it only takes 10
    minutes before...as Jeff Foxworthy noted..."the underwear taps you
    on the shoulder, and says RUN!!" <G>.

    I don't recall apple juice being on the recommended list where I
    went. The prohibited foods were mostly anything dark or red. I'll
    need to try apple juice, as I'm about due for another one.

    Apple Juice is like prune juice to me. I've heard that as well, to
    avoid anything red or brown.

    I recover well from the anaesthesia, so always look forward to the
    first meal afterwards. Last was a San Francisco-style Carne Asada
    burrito. Gotta have something to look forward to...

    I have to have Zofran beforehand, to prevent vomiting...and Pepcid beforehand, to deal with the stomach acid.

    Now, if I could convert the flatulence afterwards for use in my car,
    I'd buy a truckload of Bush's Baked Beans, ask Duke for the secret
    formula, and tell OPEC what they could do with their gas prices!! <G>
    I didn't get any when I was at the store, as I forgot them, plus the
    budget this month is tighter than a frog's [butt] under water. :P

    My next one is next April.

    Daryl

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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Jul 7 23:32:34 2020
    Hi & welcome, Kurt! I recognized your name from other
    echoes but don't recall seeing it here before.

    I think this was my first post here,


    Ah. So I'm not losing my mind... or at least not completely. :-Q



    been on Fidonet since 1991. :)


    1988 in Dallas's case, 1990 in mine. We started this echo in 1990 while our daughter was in treatment for leukemia & I noticed many people were returning home from the hospital to small communities where they had a lot of well-wishers who crowded the local airport to welcome them back, but where it might be difficult to find anybody with related knowledge or experience. Our focus changes as various people bring up various issues. IMHO SURVIVOR is an attitude inspired by the work of an oncologist, not a medical diagnosis. :-)



    I didn't find the stuff tasted too bad if it was well
    chilled beforehand, but it took me 5 1/2 hours to get
    through 4 litres (about a gallon in US measurements)
    of it.

    Argh - yes. The older prep, which apparently had some
    bad side effects was much easier - I think it was 32 oz?


    IOW, about 1/4 of the amount. I imagine that may be what a friend was using when she told me she'd spent three days on the toilet & said "Never again!" She had a second colonoscopy a few months ago, however, and reported that the newer prep was a considerable improvement.... :-)



    I don't recall apple juice being on the recommended
    list where I went. The prohibited foods were mostly
    anything dark or red.


    In my case the instructions from the hospital were rather sketchy, but Uncle Google provided further details. ;-)



    I'll need to try apple juice, as I'm about due for
    another one.


    I found it very helpful when... roughly 3/4 of the way through the prep... I began shaking uncontrollably. My self-diagnosis of low blood sugar was confirmed within minutes after Dallas brought me some apple juice.

    Another thing which both Dallas & I found helpful, although he was using a split dose & I wasn't, was decanting the prep into empty soda bottles ... appropriately labelled, of course. That way it's easier to fit the stuff into the fridge & to keep the next installment cold.... :-)



    I recover well from the anaesthesia, so always
    look forward to the first meal afterwards. Last
    was a San Francisco-style Carne Asada burrito.


    Because I was aware that a person may need to start slowly after a long fast &/or an anesthetic, and because I was released from the hospital at lunch time, I cautiously ingested more apple juice & half of a tuna sandwich. When all seemed to be well I took advantage of the special on halibut & chips ... French fries, to our neighbours who live south of the 49th parallel... at one of our local restaurants. Although I love halibut the season is limited, and although the fries could easily have been replaced by a salad I had a yen for them. The fat content was risky... but I'm alive to tell the tale. :-))



    Gotta have something to look forward to...


    Yes, I think it is quite important. I noticed that when my father was in hospital he couldn't wait to get out of the place & go home. I'm much the same way in that regard & I encouraged our daughter to follow suit. Each time we visited the outpatient clinic, e.g., we'd also visit a nearby park on the way back so she could feed the ducks. If you believe life is still worth living despite your medical problems I reckon we're on the same page.... :-)




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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Ardith Hinton on Thu Jul 9 06:51:00 2020
    Ardith,

    Ah. So I'm not losing my mind... or at least not
    completely. :-Q

    Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. <G>


    1988 in Dallas's case, 1990 in mine. We started this echo
    in 1990 while our daughter was in treatment for leukemia & I noticed
    many people were returning home from the hospital to small communities where they had a lot of well-wishers who crowded the local airport to welcome them back, but where it might be difficult to find anybody with related knowledge or experience. Our focus changes as various people bring up various issues. IMHO SURVIVOR is an attitude inspired by the work of an oncologist, not a medical diagnosis. :-)

    One has to be proactive. There is a campaign right now from Arkansas Urology...noting while women tend to take care of their personal health
    issues (breast self exam, etc. -- but men do get breast cancer), men
    tend to be "brutes", thinking they're invincible, and not getting things
    like their prostate or testosterone levels checked). Admittedly, the
    prostate check is not the most pleasant feeling, but it's a walk in the
    park, compared to the COVID-19 nasal swabs!! :P

    IOW, about 1/4 of the amount. I imagine that may be what a friend was using when she told me she'd spent three days on the toilet
    & said "Never again!" She had a second colonoscopy a few months ago, however, and reported that the newer prep was a considerable improvement.... :-)

    I'm going back to the clear citrate of magnesia and Ducolax next time.
    My late wife termed it "Sprite With A Kick". <G> While tart, and best
    served chilled, it was much better than that MY-LYTELY. The Go-Lytely
    was like tepid salt water <urk!>.

    In my case the instructions from the hospital were rather sketchy, but Uncle Google provided further details. ;-)

    I saw a picture, where this guy has a T-shirt on. It noted "I don't
    need Google. My wife knows everything". <G>

    I found it very helpful when... roughly 3/4 of the way
    through the prep... I began shaking uncontrollably. My self-diagnosis
    of low blood sugar was confirmed within minutes after Dallas brought me some apple juice.

    Thankfully, I'm not yet diabetic...but am Pre-Type 2. The Hemoglobin A1C
    has been holding steady at 6.1, but the threshold is 6.4 for a type 2 diagnosis. I get full blood work every 6 months, with them done in both September and March.

    Another thing which both Dallas & I found helpful, although
    he was using a split dose & I wasn't, was decanting the prep into empty soda bottles ... appropriately labelled, of course. That way it's
    easier to fit the stuff into the fridge & to keep the next installment cold.... :-)

    As noted, the stomach acid I had, reacted with the citric acid from the
    prep, and it felt like my esophagus and throat were burning...where I
    couldn't finish the prep.

    Although I love halibut the season is limited, and although the fries could easily have been replaced by a salad I had a yen for them. The
    fat content was risky... but I'm alive to tell the tale. :-))

    After fasting for bloodwork, I tend to go order a double or triple cheeseburger...I figure I've earned it. <G> Lately though, I'm on a
    diet of lunch meat sandwiches and diet green tea. Finances are tighter
    than a frog's butt underwater right now.

    If you believe life is still worth living despite your medical problems
    I reckon we're on the same page.... :-)

    Same here.

    Because of COVID-19, the testapel (testosterone implant pellets) are
    back ordered for another 6 weeks. My urologist noted that my level (390)
    is at the low end of the medium range...and he felt that if we waited
    until August, the levels would crash, and I'd likely be in trouble with cardiovascular and diabetes issues. So, I am getting weekly shots in
    the hip/gleute/butt cheek, every Wednesday...then, on the first Wednesday,
    I also get a B-12 shot in the same area.

    My shoulders are so sore from arthritis, that if I get a shot in there,
    it's hard to sleep, or work at the computer, for all the pain. I joke
    that "I get cheeky with the nurses" <G>...but nudity means nothing to them...as they've seen it all before. While there's a time and a place
    for everything, when it comes to medical stuff, folks need to throw
    all modesty out the window. Yet, I know folks who won't go to the doctor
    for the fact they don't want to be seen naked, or discuss about "The 3
    P's -- peeing, pooping, and procreation".

    Daryl

    ... Darn it!! I forgot all about the Amnesia Conference!!
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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Don Lowery on Thu Aug 6 19:32:16 2020
    Hi & welcome, Don! Recently you wrote in a message to Daryl Stout:

    Even had to take a colon test a couple of months ago.


    Seems to me you're in good company... [wry grin].



    they said I was normal. Hearing that...I cried for joy.


    Uh-huh. Although I didn't think it was likely I had colon cancer I was quite relieved when my gastroenterologist found no evidence of it.... :-)



    The reason...have had the "truck driver's syndrome"
    since my early 20's & didn't want anything causing
    more pain than what I feel through the years.


    Hmm....

    Uncle Google says very little about it, except that it affects many people who spend a lot of time in a seated position. If you're a truck driver who has to eat & sleep whenever the opportunity becomes available I understand how these things can interfere with one's digestion etc. because I'm in a very similar situation. What made the matter more urgent in recent months was that I'd developed chronic diarrhea... beginning around the time people who used to eat out a lot started remaining at home & learning to bake bread. The grocery stores (for this & other reasons) often couldn't meet the unprecedented demand for so many things I won't try to list them. I reckon the situation in the US was probably much the same. I saw no complaint in this echo WRT how difficult it was to obtain xxx, yyy, or zzz for quite awhile. But I remember what Daryl said about joking with his nurses & AFAIC we're on the same wave length there.

    It was easier years ago to cross the Canada/US border than it is to get into a hospital nowadays. I remain patient while security guards ask me a bunch of questions about where I've been recently, whether I have any symptoms of COVID-19, and what my business is with the hospital. When I finally get to the outpatient clinic I have to answer the same questions all over again... so the moment I can be sure I'm talking to a nurse I let it all hang out & add to the simplistic responses other people expect. Do I have blah blah? Yes, I've had it for xxx months... that's why I'm here. The nurse who interviewed me in the gastroenterology clinic didn't miss a beat & we got along very well. :-))




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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Ardith Hinton on Sat Aug 8 17:50:00 2020
    Ardith,

    Even had to take a colon test a couple of months ago.

    Seems to me you're in good company... [wry grin].

    My next one is in April. But, I'm going to do the Citrate Of
    Magnesia, and the Ducolax. That My-Lytely stuff sucks...the acid
    reflux I had reacted so with it, it felt like my esophagus and
    throat were on fire...so I couldn't finish the prep work.

    they said I was normal. Hearing that...I cried for joy.

    Uh-huh. Although I didn't think it was likely I had colon
    cancer I was quite relieved when my gastroenterologist found no
    evidence of it.... :-)

    That's what I'm hoping for. When I had my last one nearly 3 years
    ago, there was a woman in her mid-80's getting her first one. My gastrointerologist, a black guy with a great sense of humor (but
    very cordial and informative) was very annoyed with this woman for
    waiting so long.


    Uncle Google says very little about it, except that it
    affects many people who spend a lot of time in a seated position. If you're a truck driver who has to eat & sleep whenever the opportunity becomes available I understand how these things can interfere with
    one's digestion etc. because I'm in a very similar situation. What
    made the matter more urgent in recent months was that I'd developed chronic diarrhea... beginning around the time people who used to eat
    out a lot started remaining at home & learning to bake bread. The
    grocery stores (for this & other reasons) often couldn't meet the unprecedented demand for so many things I won't try to list them. I reckon the situation in the US was probably much the same. I saw no complaint in this echo WRT how difficult it was to obtain xxx, yyy, or
    zzz for quite awhile. But I remember what Daryl said about joking with his nurses & AFAIC we're on the same wave length there.

    When I first had the rectal bleeding (red), I thought it was cancer.
    But, if it's red, it's hemorrhoids. When my doctor said "you've got
    the same thing women get from having babies", I growled "I'm not a
    woman, and men can't have babies". When he did a flexsigmoidoscopy
    on me (I was not sedated for that, and the cramping was awful), he
    said "Look!! Your colon on TV!!". I growled "I want to change the
    channel!! Where are the dancing girls??".

    This was also the same one who had a poster on his exam room door,
    that said "Ask Me About Viagra" (this was around the time it first
    came out). My wife was in there with me, as I was having "male
    problems". So, I said to him, "OK, Doc...I'll bite...what about it??".
    Grinning like the cat who just swallowed the canary, he said "I've
    had 8 men ask...2 women ask...and I personally don't give a [crap]".


    It was easier years ago to cross the Canada/US border than
    it is to get into a hospital nowadays. I remain patient while security guards ask me a bunch of questions about where I've been recently,
    whether I have any symptoms of COVID-19, and what my business is with
    the hospital. When I finally get to the outpatient clinic I have to answer the same questions all over again... so the moment I can be sure I'm talking to a nurse I let it all hang out & add to the simplistic responses other people expect. Do I have blah blah? Yes, I've had it
    for xxx months... that's why I'm here. The nurse who interviewed me in the gastroenterology clinic didn't miss a beat & we got along very
    well. :-))

    I have a 13 page med list of all my surgeries, conditions, medicines, doctors, specialists, etc. The only thing it doesn't have is a full
    front and full back nude photo of me. Then, it would be "Everything
    you wanted to know about me medically...but were afraid to ask". <G>
    If I'm going for a full physical, a procedure, or an emergency room
    visit, I print the full med list. When the nurse asked about my
    medical history, I handed it to her, and said "Read this!!" <G>.

    I thought she was going to kiss me!! She said "This makes it so
    much easier for us"...and I replied "Then, I don't have to remember
    all of it!!".

    Daryl

    ... WARNING!! I'm naked under these clothes!!
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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Daryl Stout on Tue Aug 18 23:56:03 2020
    Hi, Daryl! Early last month you wrote in a message to Don Lowery:

    Actually, the color of ones [poop] can be an indicator
    of something more serious.


    Makes sense to me.... :-)



    If it's black, it means internal bleeding...


    Or it may be a side effect of the type of iron supplement people are often given on the understanding that +/- 200 mg will go down the toilet. :-Q



    and if it's another color, it's a bile issue with the
    liver.


    Yes, an off-white or pale yellow shade may indicate liver damage. I read that somewhere & noticed it a month before it showed up on our daughter's liver function tests while she was in treatment for leukemia. IIRC this was a side effect of methotrexate which is usually reversible. I mention it because Dallas & I knew a guy years ago who was prescribed the same drug for arthritis and I suspect it may be used WRT various other medical conditions too.... :-)




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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Ardith Hinton on Thu Aug 20 09:39:00 2020
    Ardith,

    Actually, the color of ones [poop] can be an indicator
    of something more serious.

    Makes sense to me.... :-)

    There's an article that I have from WebMD, that I'll post (along
    with other items every few days, recycling every 90 days), on that.
    I just wanted to get permission to do such. The majority of the
    information is what I've captured from WebMD, and I'm giving credit
    to them for it...the same way when citing a reference in a research paper...so, I'm not plagiarizling (sp?).

    A fellow ham radio operator told of his daughter and new grandbaby
    (with the expected diaper changes)...and after about a week or two,
    his daughter said "God put the stink in it". <G> From what I read,
    a newborn's stool is "golden yellow" with "a fairly sweetish odor"...
    but as noted above, that apparently doesn't last long. :P

    I heard of an experience at a restaurant, where Momma had her 2
    young kids there, and it kept smelling like her son had pooped in
    his pants. So, as discreetely as she could, she was asking him "are
    you sure you don't need to go potty??". With that, he finally stood
    up, dropped his pants and underwear, mooned her, and "spread his butt cheeks"...then said "See, Mom?? It's just farts!!" :P

    But the stench of the methane is an indication of that the bacteria
    in your colon are doing their job in digesting the food. Plus, what
    you eat can increase it...such as certain beans and other legumes. I
    personally like baked beans (I hear that the Bush's Baked Beans are
    quite good, but I've never tried them...I always liked the "Beanie
    Weenies" (baked beans and hot dogs). But, I think it's one thing I'm
    not supposed to eat much of, due to oxylates.

    I'm reminded of the commercial years ago (I want to say that it was
    from Tractor Supply Company, but I'm not sure. The family is at the
    dinner table, asking The Good Lord to bless the food before the meal,
    and the dog is there under the table. Well, apparently, the dog knew
    what they were eating (Beano was apparently not even considered at
    the table <G>), so as soon as he heard "Amen!!", he was off like a shot...heading upstairs to the bedroom. He "opens" the chest of drawers,
    and starts digging through items, trying to find a certain item. On the
    third drawer, he finds his quarry...a gas mask!!

    So, the next shot, you see the dog, with the mask on, bounding down
    the stairs, and gets back under the table...the family didn't even
    notice he was gone, as they were "feeding their faces".

    Then, you hear the announcers voice "We have what you want!!" <BG>.

    If it's black, it means internal bleeding...

    Or it may be a side effect of the type of iron supplement
    people are often given on the understanding that +/- 200 mg will go
    down the toilet. :-Q

    Pepto Bismol apparently will do that. I might have taken that once.
    Right now, the prescription strength Prilosec is taking care of the acid reflux...the OTC version isn't strong enough, and they only let you take
    that for 2 weeks. But, once you have acid reflux, it lasts far longer
    than 2 weeks.

    and if it's another color, it's a bile issue with the
    liver.

    Yes, an off-white or pale yellow shade may indicate liver damage. I read that somewhere & noticed it a month before it showed up
    on our daughter's liver function tests while she was in treatment for leukemia. IIRC this was a side effect of methotrexate which is usually reversible. I mention it because Dallas & I knew a guy years ago who
    was prescribed the same drug for arthritis and I suspect it may be used WRT various other medical conditions too.... :-)

    I used to have problems with a fatty liver...but the blood work this past March only showed a very low B-12 and testosterone count. The Hemoglobin
    A1C was steady at 6.1, and everything else (cholesterol, triglycerides,
    liver enzymes, blood sugar, etc.) were all within "normal limits".

    I know that they can't really treat arthritis, and I have it all through
    my body (confirmed by X-Ray). It's in the shoulders, spine (degenerative
    disk disease), hips (radiating across the groin and buttocks), legs,
    knees, and feet. The bones in my neck are so kinked (confirmed by X-Ray),
    yet, it's rare I'm bothered by it. My PCP couldn't believe I'm not in more
    pain than I am. I take a cane wherever I go, but have the walker next to
    the bed.

    To me, the only "golden" thing about "The Golden Years" is the color
    of ones urine. :P And, that's also another subject as well.

    Briefly, if it's clear, you're likely overhydrated, drinking too much
    water, or you may be on Lasix (been there, done that). After they removed
    a bladder stone earlier this year, I had to spend the night in the
    hospital (I had no one to stay with me at home), and they gave me 10
    pitchers of ice water, and a big Lasix tablet. I was filling up the
    urinal bottles in 5 minutes time!! It made no sense to go back and forth
    to the toilet. I thought I was going to pee my member off!! :P

    Golden yellow is the ideal color, sort of like apple juice (more on that
    in a minute). If it seems bright as a neon sign, I want to say it's due
    to a certain vitamin or something else. If it's brown, it's concentrated,
    but one could be getting dehydrated (that can also lead to kidney stone formation). If it's red, it's either hematuria (blood in the urine), or
    one has eaten beets (those who like these, can have my portion <G>).

    As for the apple juice, there was a story of this man who was in the hospital, and this one nurse kept "baby talking to him", and he was
    highly offended by it. Well, revenge is a dish best served cold <G>, so
    he ordered a thing of apple juice, but he let it sit and warm up. The
    "baby talking nurse" came in, asking for a urine sample...then she
    stepped out while he could void into the specimen up. Unknown to her,
    he poured the apple juice in it instead. When she came back in, she
    lamented "Ooooo....a bit dark". To which, the man grabbed the specimen
    cup from her, with the warm apple juice in it, and he said "That's OK.
    I'll run it through again", and swigged it down.

    The nurse fainted dead away...and never bothered him again. <G>

    Several years ago, quite a few of the ladies I square danced with
    (one of my other hobbies) were nurses on my ward. They gave me loads
    of grief <BG>. Of course, nudity means nothing to them, but if they
    were going to pull my chain and have fun with me, I might as well do
    likewise <G>.

    Daryl

    ... "Farfrompoopin'" - German word for constipation.
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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Daryl Stout on Fri Aug 21 11:27:43 2020
    Hi, Daryl -- on Aug 20 2020 at 09:39, you wrote:

    There's an article that I have from WebMD, that I'll post (along
    with other items every few days, recycling every 90 days), on that.
    I just wanted to get permission to do such. The majority of the

    Regretfully, permission denied. Survivor echo is not a place for
    regurgitation of published (or unpublished!) articles; it is a place for
    people to discuss their issues and to offer support to others. There are
    other places to get detailed medical information. WebMD is very good for
    that, but frankly, the gruesome details of someone's illness aren't what
    we're here for.

    Thanks for asking!


    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Dallas Hinton on Sat Aug 22 20:31:00 2020
    Dallas,

    Regretfully, permission denied. Survivor echo is not a place for regurgitation of published (or unpublished!) articles; it is a place
    for people to discuss their issues and to offer support to others.
    There are other places to get detailed medical information. WebMD is
    very good for that, but frankly, the gruesome details of someone's
    illness aren't what we're here for.

    Thanks for asking!

    I decided not to do it after all...and that was before I saw the post
    you made.

    Daryl

    ... Sign on a Maternity Room Door: Push!! Push!! Push!!
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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Daryl Stout on Sun Aug 23 00:46:18 2020
    Hi, Daryl -- on Aug 22 2020 at 20:31, you wrote:

    I decided not to do it after all...and that was before I saw the post
    you made.

    Super - a wise decision, I think. Thanks!


    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Daryl Stout on Sun Aug 23 18:36:10 2020
    Hi, Daryl! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    Even had to take a colon test a couple of months ago.

    Seems to me you're in good company... [wry grin].

    My next one is in April. But, I'm going to do the Citrate
    of Magnesia, and the Ducolax. That My-Lytely stuff sucks
    ...the acid reflux I had reacted so with it, it felt like
    my esophagus throat were on fire...so I couldn't finish
    the prep work.


    Dallas & I both used Colyte, because that's what the local pharmacy had, and found it reasonably tolerable. I could ask our friend again what she was so impressed by... but I guess you've established what works for you. :-)



    When I first had the rectal bleeding (red), I thought it
    was cancer. But, if it's red, it's hemorrhoids.


    Or skin tags, which are also close to the surface & may be found in both males & females. What matters here AFAIK is that blood looks red when it has been exposed to oxygen but hasn't gone through the digestive system. When you have a stool test for occult ("hidden") blood the idea is that it can't be seen by the naked eye & is identified by chemical tests. If the specimens one provides are contaminated with blood from the rectum a colonoscopy may be next on the agenda because there's no other way to be sure what's going on.... :-)



    When my doctor said "you've got the same thing women get
    from having babies", I growled "I'm not a woman, and men
    can't have babies".


    No... but they can strain at stool, as some folks put it, and I was instructed to reproduce this action during the final stage of childbirth. :-)



    When he did a flexsigmoidoscopy on me (I was not sedated
    for that, and the cramping was awful), he said "Look!!
    Your colon on TV!!". I growled "I want to change the
    channel!! Where are the dancing girls??".


    Very good. Stay as sweet as you are... [ROFL].



    I have a 13 page med list of all my surgeries, conditions,
    medicines, doctors, specialists, etc. The only thing it
    doesn't have is a full front and full back nude photo of me.
    Then, it would be "Everything you wanted to know about me
    medically...but were afraid to ask". <G> If I'm going for a
    full physical, a procedure, or an emergency room visit, I
    print the full med list.


    Dallas & do likewise. It saves all concerned time & effort, and it helps ensure the junior Dr. assigned to taking the history gets it right. :-Q




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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Dallas Hinton on Mon Aug 24 08:57:00 2020
    Dallas,

    I decided not to do it after all...and that was before I saw the post you made.

    Super - a wise decision, I think. Thanks!

    At least I did ask the moderator beforehand. :)

    On another note, the testapel (testosterone pellets) for Low-T
    (basically male menopause) are STILL back ordered, due to COVID-19,
    and Arkansas Urology has no idea when they'll get them in. So, I
    have to get weekly shots in the gleute. I quipped that "I think they
    use barbed wire for the needles" (that first stick really stings),
    and the nurse sarcastically said "We dip them in rust beforehand" <G>.

    My level is on the LOW end of the medium scale...and the doctor
    said over a month ago that "if we wait, your levels will crash, and
    you'll develop cardiovascular (heart and lung) and diabetes issues".
    That was too big a risk for me to take.

    My Hemoglobin A1C has been hovering around 6.1 -- and I keep hearing different figures of the threshold for Type 2 diabetes...with values
    from 6.4 to 7.0 -- and some even lower than 6.0 -- would it be too much trouble if we could make up our minds?? I think that the American
    Diabetes Association has the level at 7.0 -- if anyone can clarify that,
    I'd appreciate it. I'd be most likely to develop type 2.

    I don't eat that many sweets (especially candy, although I love plain M&M's), but at times, I get a craving for something sweet. Yet, I can't
    eat the rich foods too often (especially cheesecake or frostings), or
    it upsets my colon something fierce.

    I skipped an area Train Show And Sale over the weekend. Because of
    COVID-19, they weren't selling food and drink, and requiring everyone
    to wear masks. While I didn't have a problem with that, I had laundry
    to do instead...and along that line, clean underwear comes to mind...
    although with incontinence (part of growing old), it's having to wear
    Depends now.

    I think of a meme that showed this woman speeding in a car, next
    to an ambulance in emergency mode. Apparently, it was taking her son
    to the hospital, and she holds out a pair of clean underwear, telling
    the paramedics "to put those on him before they take him into the
    Emergency Room". <G>

    There was another cartoon where the woman's son was in the Emergency
    Room, and the doctor comes out to talk to her, and says "I have good
    news and bad news". The mother panics, as the doctor continues "He'll
    be OK, but he didn't have clean underwear on!!". At that point, Momma
    is kicking and screaming on the floor, "NO!! NO!! WHY??!! WHY??!!" <G>.

    Yet, nudity and dirty underwear means nothing to the medical folks.

    Also, in the restaurants, because of COVID-19, some are only doing
    take-out orders only, but some are still closed. Those that are open
    in the dining room (at least in Arkansas), can have 2/3 (67%) capacity.

    But, in some places, even before COVID-19, they were automatically
    putting a 20% gratuity on the bill, whether you were the only one in
    the party, or you had more than 15. So, some folks got some business
    cards created, noting that they disagreed with that policy. I do as
    well, because if the food and service is going to be lousy, I don't
    feel they deserve a tip. But, if the food and service is good, I will
    leave a nice tip.

    Back to the card, it noted "Since you want a tip, I'll give you
    three"...and had these listed:

    1) Plant your corn early.
    2) Keep your powder dry.
    3) Always have clean underwear on.

    I've seriously considering doing that myself <G>...although I've
    known people, who when finding out there was going to be that 20%
    charge beforehand, they turned around, and walked out of the business.
    In some cases, they are even charging "a COVID-19 treatment fee". Most
    folks, like myself are "frugal cheapskates", and will definitely not be
    going to places that have those expensive surcharges...whether for
    health reasons or otherwise.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Ardith Hinton on Tue Aug 25 09:19:00 2020
    Ardith,


    Dallas & I both used Colyte, because that's what the local pharmacy had, and found it reasonably tolerable. I could ask our
    friend again what she was so impressed by... but I guess you've established what works for you. :-)

    Never heard of that brand...will have to remember that. My late wife
    referred to the Citrate Of Magnesia as "sprite with a kick".


    Or skin tags, which are also close to the surface & may be found in both males & females. What matters here AFAIK is that blood looks red when it has been exposed to oxygen but hasn't gone through
    the digestive system. When you have a stool test for occult ("hidden") blood the idea is that it can't be seen by the naked eye & is
    identified by chemical tests. If the specimens one provides are contaminated with blood from the rectum a colonoscopy may be next on
    the agenda because there's no other way to be sure what's going on....
    :-)

    I've got those as well. The next colonoscopy is set for April...I'm
    going to try to get something besides that MyLytely this next time.

    No... but they can strain at stool, as some folks put it,
    and I was instructed to reproduce this action during the final stage of childbirth. :-)

    When they were checking for a hernia in the groin area, I was told
    to bear down, and "broke wind". :P

    I remember Dr. Drew Pinsky doing a show, talking to new mothers to
    be (he actually got to deliver his own kids!!), and was asking them
    what "advice" that their Mom, BFF, etc. gave them. In the teaser for
    the show, you didn't hear "the winner", but everyone was roaring in
    laughter, and he was as red as a tomato.

    My wife was still alive at that time, and we were watching the show,
    and they revealed "the winner"..."Don't poop on the table!!" <BG>. My
    wife and I were laughing as well!! :)

    Your colon on TV!!". I growled "I want to change the
    channel!! Where are the dancing girls??".

    Very good. Stay as sweet as you are... [ROFL].

    I'm getting razzed now that Laura (the hurricane, whose remnants
    are supposed to affect my area late Wednesday into at least Friday),
    is "my new girlfriend". A fellow ham radio operator in the New Orleans
    area quipped "she's a high maintenance female"...I told him "I don't
    want to know". <G>

    Dallas & do likewise. It saves all concerned time & effort, and it helps ensure the junior Dr. assigned to taking the history gets
    it right. :-Q

    Then, you don't have to remember all of it. I joke that the only
    thing it doesn't have is a full front and full back nude photo of
    my anatomy. Then, it would be "Everything You Wanted To Know About
    Me, Medically...But Were Afraid To Ask" <G>.

    Daryl

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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Daryl Stout on Mon Aug 31 23:46:14 2020
    Hi, Daryl! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    ...then said "See, Mom?? It's just farts!!" :P

    But the stench of the methane is an indication of that
    the bacteria in your colon are doing their job in
    digesting the food.


    According to both of my favourite dictionaries methane, despite its reputation, is odourless. However, it seems to me that whenever decomposition involves large numbers of anaerobic bacteria the smell can be pretty bad. :-)



    Right now, the prescription strength Prilosec is taking
    care of the acid reflux...the OTC version isn't strong
    enough, and they only let you take that for 2 weeks.


    With OTC drugs the manufacturers want to make sure you're not using the product on a long-term basis without seeking medical advice. When you do, your doctor may prescribe a stronger dose or tell you it's okay to go on using the stuff. Either way you're acting under supervision from a person qualified to determine what's going on. WRT some ailments symptomatic relief may be the best one can expect... OTOH, self-treatment may hide more serious issues. :-)



    I know that they can't really treat arthritis, and I have
    it all through my body (confirmed by X-Ray).


    Archaeologists have found arthritis in the bones of humans who were in their 20's when they died, and IIRC such a person commented that anyone who lives long enough will get it eventually. Sometimes it's painful... sometimes it's not. Because the pain tends to come & go, and because different remedies may affect different people in different ways, there are no easy answers. :-)



    [re urine]
    If it's brown, it's concentrated, but one could be
    getting dehydrated (that can also lead to kidney stone
    formation).


    I noticed that during a heat wave when our daughter was still using the potty & had been given an antibiotic which resulted in diarrhea. It's not hard, under such conditions, to monitor the volume of urinary output.... :-))



    If it's red, it's either hematuria (blood in the urine),
    or one has eaten beets (those who like these, can have
    my portion <G>).


    I'm told other foods can also have this effect, but my first & only experience with it occurred a few hours after I ate multi-coloured nacho chips at a restaurant I'd never visited before. Thanks to Uncle Google we were able to see that the red ones must have been dyed with beetroot juice... [chuckle].



    [re the "baby talking" nurse]
    The nurse fainted dead away...and never bothered him
    again. <G>


    Alternatively, you may be able to get rid of certain people just by telling the unvarnished truth. Years ago I was in the gynaecology ward of one of our local hospitals, i.e. a teaching hospital. Since I'd dutifully watched the required film about hysterectomy (together with most of the other patients in the ward) it wasn't difficult to guess why most were there. However, I was there for another reason... and I figured so was my roommate, who looked to be about 15 years old. When a young doctor came into the room & asked permission to do an internal exam of Yours Truly I was puzzled as to what he thought he'd be able to see, considering I was bleeding. I guess folks like him need folks like me to practise on... but I also realize teens may be very sensitive about such things. When, as an afterthought, he enquired why I was there I told him calmly & quietly that I was having a miscarriage. He immediately fled & never showed his face again. I can't help wondering who would choose gynaecology if s/he can't stand the sight of blood. Perhaps it wasn't his choice, but I hope he's now learned to read the charts before initiating various procedures. :-Q




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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Ardith Hinton on Wed Sep 2 14:53:00 2020
    Ardith,

    According to both of my favourite dictionaries methane,
    despite its reputation, is odourless. However, it seems to me that whenever decomposition involves large numbers of anaerobic bacteria the smell can be pretty bad. :-)

    Talk about being a group of little stinkers. <G> The dogs are especially
    bad at such (especially with the SBD bombs), but like anything else, it's determined on what the human or animal eats.

    Before my wife died, we were on our Futon, otherwise "intimately
    occupied", and the dachshund was in his bed on the floor. All of a
    sudden, this horrible stench permeated my nostrils, and I started
    gagging...the dog had dropped a methane bomb!! My wife was laughing uncontrollably, saying "You know he's down there, going 'Hee Hee Hee!!
    Ignore my [butt], will you??" <G>. Needless to say, any romance went
    out the window...I had to get dressed, and take the weiner widget for
    a walk. :P

    The dogs check each other out, by sniffing each other butts. At least
    humans don't literally do that. :P

    With OTC drugs the manufacturers want to make sure you're
    not using the product on a long-term basis without seeking medical
    advice. When you do, your doctor may prescribe a stronger dose or tell you it's okay to go on using the stuff. Either way you're acting under supervision from a person qualified to determine what's going on. WRT some ailments symptomatic relief may be the best one can expect...
    OTOH, self-treatment may hide more serious issues. :-)

    This is why I'm not one for the herbal or home remedies. Of course, your mileage may vary...as everyone's system is different. My clinic is also
    part of this group that makes sure controlled substances that have been prescribed are being properly used.

    Several years ago, when I had a large cyst develop on the left buttocks cheek, it had to be removed surgically. It was benign, but it had to heal
    from the inside out. I had to have home health care for 2 months, to clean
    the wound, change and repack the bandages, etc. They even inspected my
    medicine cabinet; but since everything in there had been legally prescribed, they couldn't touch me. The scar is rather large, and at times, it itches.

    Archaeologists have found arthritis in the bones of humans
    who were in their 20's when they died, and IIRC such a person commented that anyone who lives long enough will get it eventually. Sometimes
    it's painful... sometimes it's not. Because the pain tends to come &
    go, and because different remedies may affect different people in different ways, there are no easy answers. :-)

    The bones in my neck are so kinked, my PCP is amazed I'm not in more
    pain than I am now. I use a cane everywhere, and have the walker and a wheelchair for emergencies.

    I noticed that during a heat wave when our daughter was
    still using the potty & had been given an antibiotic which resulted in diarrhea. It's not hard, under such conditions, to monitor the volume
    of urinary output.... :-))

    I'm battling diarrhea now, but it's because I'm drinking at least six
    12 ounce bottles of diet green tea citrus a day, to keep hydrated. They
    did blood work to check my B-12 level this morning, but I had to set up
    a full blood work (diabetes, cholesterol, etc.) check for next week. That
    gets done every 6 months.

    I still had to get the B-12 shot this morning, but if it helps the level
    (I should know today's results by next week), then I may not need the
    shots anymore. But, it's the Ozemprazole (prescription strength Prilosec) causing the B-12 issues...the OTC Prilosec has no effect on my acid
    reflux, and they say you shouldn't take that for more than 14 days. I also
    got the next Low-T shot this morning, and while they think they have a
    supply of testapel (testosterone pellets) in, they're not sure...and
    they have a backlog of patients waiting to get them. So, I have to keep
    getting the shots until they get around to me.

    Plus, they're going to get full blood work from me there in 2 weeks. Basically, I see Dracula twice in the next 2 weeks. Along that line, the tagline below (which I procured <G>) fits my mood. ;)

    I'm told other foods can also have this effect, but my first
    & only experience with it occurred a few hours after I ate
    multi-coloured nacho chips at a restaurant I'd never visited before. Thanks to Uncle Google we were able to see that the red ones must have been dyed with beetroot juice... [chuckle].

    When someone tells me about eggplant, I quip "I thought that was redneck
    for 'chicken'" <G>.

    Alternatively, you may be able to get rid of certain people just by telling the unvarnished truth. Years ago I was in the
    gynaecology ward of one of our local hospitals, i.e. a teaching
    hospital. Since I'd dutifully watched the required film about hysterectomy (together with most of the other patients in the ward) it wasn't difficult to guess why most were there. However, I was there
    for another reason... and I figured so was my roommate, who looked to
    be about 15 years old. When a young doctor came into the room & asked permission to do an internal exam of Yours Truly I was puzzled as to
    what he thought he'd be able to see, considering I was bleeding. I
    guess folks like him need folks like me to practise on... but I also realize teens may be very sensitive about such things. When, as an afterthought, he enquired why I was there I told him calmly & quietly
    that I was having a miscarriage. He immediately fled & never showed
    his face again. I can't help wondering who would choose gynaecology if s/he can't stand the sight of blood. Perhaps it wasn't his choice, but
    I hope he's now learned to read the charts before initiating various procedures. :-Q

    I saw a story on the news this morning, where this woman, who had just graduated from nursing school...was inspired to do so by her 98 year old
    Mom, who had been a nurse for 61 years. I wish we had more stories like
    that.

    I've talked to some medical folks, veterinary and otherwise, where while
    they can handle the sight of urine, blood, and feces, vomitus is where
    they draw the line, as it were...especially if you have a weak gag reflex,
    as I do.

    Years ago, when they first diagnosed me with digestive tract issues (irritable bowel syndrome, nervous stomach, spastic colon, and diverticulitis), I was first told I had to watch what I ate (meaning
    diet). I replied "I do...from the plate to the mouth"...they didn't
    like my answer. <G> When I had rectal bleeding, I thought it was colon
    cancer, but it was hemorrhoids. My next colonoscopy is in April. I am
    going to try to go back to the citrate of magnesia and Ducolax. That
    MyLytely was so tart and acidic, that it reacted with the stomach acid,
    and was burning my esophagus and throat...so, I couldn't finish the prep
    work.

    Next, they decided to do "prune" me, with a drink which was like a
    thick strawberry shake and Sprite (I think it was actually a barium
    contrast solution, that was to go from the top down, rather than from
    the bottom up...pun intended). They said "don't even pause to belch",
    and I swigged that down like a drunkard. Amazed, they said "this man
    knows how to drink". It was the first thing I had been permitted to have
    in 3 days, and I love strawberries and Sprite, anyway. I told them "you
    better have the stepstool here, in case I have to bid a hasty retreat"...
    and it was only 10 minutes when (as comedian Jeff Foxworthy put it, on prepping for his colonoscopy) "my underwear tapped me on the shoulder,
    and said 'RUN!!'". <G> They told me that I was LUCKY -- some folks had
    to stay down there 5 HOURS to get cleaned out...I cringed.

    Well, something on the ultrasound and X-Ray in the abdomen looked very suspicious, as if I was going to need an appendectomy. They had me on
    NPO (nothing by mouth), as they thought they'd have to do surgery. The
    nurse walked in, and had the gall to ask for a stool sample!! I growled
    "Where do you think I'm going to get it?? From the bedpan in the next
    room?? You haven't fed me in 3 days!!". She finally looked at my chart,
    and admitted "Well, you can't manufacture it, if you ain't got it". So,
    they gave me green Jello to "get their quota".

    I lost 10 pounds the hard way that week. My employer wasn't happy, as
    the dirty work at my job fell in his lap. I snarled "If you think I'd
    rather be on a cold and hard emergency room table, with constant vomiting
    and diarrhea, not to mention severe pain, you are crazy".

    When the arthritis and migraines got so bad, and I went in to my now
    former workplace, and announced I was quitting, I said "My body won't
    let me do it anymore". Had I not stopped when I did, I would've either
    been in worse shape, or dead long ago.

    I found out a little bit ago that my mother-in-law passed away this
    past Sunday (my father-in-law called to deliver the news). Her birthday
    was August 7, but apparently she was in the hospital and very ill...but
    my wishes were relayed to her. Yesterday (Sept. 1) would've been my Mom's
    94th birthday, had she lived (she died 3 weeks before her 93rd birthday).

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to All on Tue Jun 29 17:37:00 2021
    Well, I thought I'd give folks an update...from Doctor Quackenbush...
    aka Groucho Marx...who noted "Either this man is dead, or my watch has stopped". <G>

    Seriously, I was concerned that I had glaucoma, as they suspected
    such on an eye exam in March. A follow-up this last week showed that
    my corneas were nice and thick, with an eye pressure of 9 in the left
    eye, and 11 in the right (the highest it has ever been in either eye
    has been 14). I think the threshold for glaucoma is 21. So, while I
    do have astigmatism and double vision in the right eye at times, he
    said I don't have to go back until December. One eye has always been
    worse than the other...before and after cataract surgery 11 years ago.
    I went from 20/2000 visual acuity before the surgery to 20/20 afterwards.

    My appointments for blood work and a physical exam with my PCP, and procedures with my urologist are 3 months late. In mid-February, two
    back to back snowstorms hit the central Arkansas area...and one of my
    clinics suffered significant water damage...so much so, that they were
    closed for a month...then they had a huge backlog of patients. The
    urology clinic was shut down, but they didn't have water damage. However,
    they did have a backlog in patients.

    Anyway, at the PCP blood draw, they thought I was dehydrated, as the
    blood out of my left arm was real thick. I have been drinking a half
    gallon of diet green tea citrus a day, as it's a diuretic...which has
    kept me free of kidney stones for over a year now...and the caffeine
    keeps the migraine headaches away. Well, at the urology clinic, out of
    the right arm, they got the blood to flow just fine. I wasn't thirsty
    at the time...but I had such a migraine sinus headache yesterday (June
    28) that I ate and drank very little...since I couldn't hold my eyes
    open (I did very little computer/BBS work), and slept much of Monday.
    I can't just drink water, as it sets my colon off...but the diet green
    tea doesn't. Drinking excess water for me is like I was swigging prune juice...and we all know what that does. :P

    After a car wreck in January (which wasn't my fault), I had to
    undergo $9100 of chiropractic care (but I didn't have to pay for
    it). I bought a pre-owned car (Uber was costing $40 a day), but had
    to pay for repairs on it (pre-owned cars are sold AS IS, with NO
    WARRANTY).

    Then, a device in one of the bathroom toilets failed, causing
    the tank to overflow, flooding both bathrooms. I had to dig into
    some of that insurance money because of medical, transportation,
    and other issues. I'm to see if I can get a bare bones bathroom
    rebuild in the coming days...but everyone has agreed that "if I
    didn't have my health, it wouldn't do any good getting the bathrooms
    fixed". I cried several days either side of my birthday over 3 months
    ago...and nearly hung up on my cousin when she called, as I was so
    distraught. I still haven't been able to schedule an upper and lower
    GI, due to cost. Right now, there are no sinks or vanities in either
    bathroom, the offending toilet has been shut down, and they have
    stuff in the shower area. I have to go out to the kitchen to wash
    my hands, but at least I still have one working toilet.

    I won't know the bloodwork results for at least a week...and likely
    will have to resume low-T treatments. If I become type 2 diabetic, that
    will be a major game changer.

    Daryl

    ... Who needs veggies and nutrition? Give me the luscious fat!!
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