MTG is wanting to see the serial numbers to some of the weapons Hamas is using to see if there are any black market stuff bought from Ukraine or Afghanistan...

She'll make a good VP!!!

BTW, I just listened to Tuckers latest video Vivek Ramaswamy was interviewed with his position on Israel and Hamas. One of the best interviews Tucker's had... Vivek is on the hot seat because he doesn't want to start world war 3

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On 11 Oct 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

MTG is wanting to see the serial numbers to some of the weapons Hamas is >o see if there are any black market stuff bought from Ukraine or >Afghanistan...

That is a good idea, which means no one will probably ever do it unless Israel makes some serial number info for captured weapons public.

There is a video circulating of a younger Senator Biden claiming that leaving weapons behind in the Middle East will only lead to them being used against you. I am guessing from one of the Gulf War eras.

I saw the video you're talking about... Who's idea it was to leave all that stuff was an idiot. Hopefully we keep the house and Trump gets in to change the DOJ out and we investigate a few things meaningfully... This would be one thing...

I liked Trump's idea on how to leave Afghanistan... Take every thing... don't leave a screw...

I am with him on that sentiment.

It was thoughtful

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MTG is wanting to see the serial numbers to some of the weapons Hamas is using >o see if there are any black market stuff bought from Ukraine or Afghanistan...

That is a good idea, which means no one will probably ever do it unless
Israel makes some serial number info for captured weapons public.

There is a video circulating of a younger Senator Biden claiming that
leaving weapons behind in the Middle East will only lead to them being used against you. I am guessing from one of the Gulf War eras.

BTW, I just listened to Tuckers latest video Vivek Ramaswamy was interviewed wi
h his position on Israel and Hamas. One of the best interviews Tucker's had...
Vivek is on the hot seat because he doesn't want to start world war 3

I am with him on that sentiment.


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On 12 Oct 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

Another thing that more often happens is that the US government (often
the CIA) get involved in supplying weapons to a faction they are hoping will topple a regime only to later have that faction come after us.

Osama was originally supported by the US, for example.

This is true here... The send armaments to Israel and money to Iran who funds Hamas...

The US needs to step out of geopolitical manipulation... Nowhere in the constitution does it say send Trillions and Trillions of US taxpayers money to other countries...

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I saw the video you're talking about... Who's idea it was to leave all that stu
f was an idiot. Hopefully we keep the house and Trump gets in to change the DO
out and we investigate a few things meaningfully... This would be one thing...

Another thing that more often happens is that the US government (often the
CIA) get involved in supplying weapons to a faction they are hoping will
topple a regime only to later have that faction come after us.

Osama was originally supported by the US, for example.


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Hello Joe,

I liked Trump's idea on how to leave Afghanistan... Take every thing... don't leave a screw...

He had four years to do that.
He chose to stay in Afghanistan.
And do nothing.

What a loser.

For Life,
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On 13 Oct 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

That is something I have believed for years. Very rarely does it ever lead to anything good in the long-term. They only seem to wind up propping up some group that turns out to be worse.

Rand Paul has been all over them about this lately.

As his father did before him...

Article I, Section 8, Clause 1:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; . . .

Founding fathers thought they'd be taxing Americans for their general well being... Not to fund other countries and expanding wars all over the world...

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The US needs to step out of geopolitical manipulation... Nowhere in the constit
tion does it say send Trillions and Trillions of US taxpayers money to other co
ntries...

That is something I have believed for years. Very rarely does it ever lead
to anything good in the long-term. They only seem to wind up propping up
some group that turns out to be worse.

Rand Paul has been all over them about this lately.


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On 12 Oct 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

Hello Joe,

I liked Trump's idea on how to leave Afghanistan... Take every thing..
don't leave a screw...

He had four years to do that.
He chose to stay in Afghanistan.
And do nothing.

What a loser.

You know what was worse? (not that I agree [even a little bit] with your assessment of Trump.)

On the chaotic orders of Biden in which the U.S. Military left Afghanistan was complete disaster, millions of dollars of military equipment left behind and
Americans left behind as well. That is the real definition of a loser.

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Hello Greg,

I liked Trump's idea on how to leave Afghanistan... Take every

thing..

don't leave a screw...

He had four years to do that.
He chose to stay in Afghanistan.
And do nothing.

What a loser.

You know what was worse?

Aaron Rodgers being dumped by the Jets after the Eagles game.

There should never be any wars. Anywhere. But we all know that.

Staying in Afghanistan twenty years past our welcome was bad enough.
As if we were ever welcome in that place, or any other place.

We had no business being there any more than we had any business
being in any other place. It is their land to do with as they like.

We invaded Afghanistan. The Taliban are still there.
We invaded Vietnam. The Vietnamese are still there.
We invaded Korea. The Koreans are still there.
We invaded Japan. The Japanese are still there.
We invaded Germany. The Germans are still there.
We invaded Italy. The Italians are still there.

You get the picture. We come in, and then leave. And yet
nothing ever changes. No matter how long we stay, they win.
Each and every time. Heads they win, tails we lose.

(not that I agree [even a little bit] with your assessment of Trump.)

We do not leave very well from the places we have been. Our
departure from Afghanistan, although 20 years late, was done
quite well in comparison with our other departures, such as
our exit from Vietnam. We just do not know how to get out
of the fine messes we made. Of course, we never should have
started them in the first place, but that is for another day.

The Taliban was willing to put Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda on
trial by Shia Law in Afghanistan. Why did GWB reject their system
of justice? Because GWB wanted a war. An easy war. Not that he
had any intention of capturing ObL & Co., whom he allowed to
flee to Pakistan. GWB sent our troops there in 2001, and kept
them there throughout his entire two terms in office. And then
Barack Obama kept them there, throughout his own two terms in
office (although he did off ObL in Pakistan). And Donald Trump
also kept them there throughout his one and only term in office.

Fact of the matter is Joe Biden is the one who got us out.
Early in the first year of his first term in office. What a guy.
A true American patriot.

On the chaotic orders of Biden in which the U.S. Military left Afghanistan was complete disaster, millions of dollars of military equipment left behind and Americans left behind as well. That is the real definition of a
loser.

Our departure from Afghanistan was done better than in times past.
How many more Americans would you rather get killed for no reason
in Afghanistan? For how long would you have preferred our men and
women in uniform to stay in Afghanistan, essentially to die?

We stayed in Japan for five years after WWII to keep the peace.
We stayed in Germany for ten years after WWII to keep the peace.
We stayed in Afghanistan for twenty years without ever keeping
peace. So why the hell should we have stayed, or even set foot
in that hellhole of a fucked up place?

The Taliban won. Do you know how? The same way they have always
won. They waited us out. Just like they did with the Greeks. And
The British. And the Russians. And everybody else who wanted to
fuck with them.

We can't win for losing. Not in Germany. Not in Italy. Not in Japan.
Not in Korea. Not in Afghanistan. Not in Vietnam. Not anywhere else.

If you want justice, pray for peace.

Never gonna happen by sending in troops, trying to impose your
own will on others.

Whoever heard of such nonsense? Imposing democracy on a people at
the point of a gun. Who taught you that lie? Teachers. At school.
Yes. That must be it. Your teacher lied to you.

What did we get in return for all the years we spent in Vietnam?
The Vietnamese are still there. The same as Koreans, and Germans,
and other peoples from other places we have been.

John McCain, who was a POW in Vietnam, had the good sense to make
peace with his former enemies, and offer to bring our two countries
together so that we could all live in peace with normal relations.

Maybe Joe Biden will also have the good sense to do the same with
the Taliban in Afghanistan.

For LIfe,
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https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1730360809522401522?s=20

So, I just listened to MTG & Tucker... Insightful to say the least... For you Blue Haired folk... Nothing to see here... But for those who believe there is a ruling class that do not give a crap about the American citizens... For those who believe there is an Military Industrial Complex... The Deep State... And What-Not!!!!

Grab your tinfoil hat and get yourself a tall glass of Kool-Aide and listen to a spectacular episode of Tucker.

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So, I just listened to MTG & Tucker... Insightful to say the least... For you B
ue Haired folk... Nothing to see here... But for those who believe there is a >uling class that do not give a crap about the American citizens... For those wh
believe there is an Military Industrial Complex... The Deep State... And What-N
ot!!!!

There are blue haired folk who believe there is a ruling class and a
Military Industrial Complex. They just believe that the persons in said
ruling class somehow don't include the very rich Democrat party donors. ;)


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On 02 Dec 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

There are blue haired folk who believe there is a ruling class and a Military Industrial Complex. They just believe that the persons in said ruling class somehow don't include the very rich Democrat party donors.
;)

Bernie Sanders?? He enriched himself during the election process... paid his wife millions as a staffer. Where is this Democrat that hasn't have rich donors attached to them... Never mind Democrat, politician whatever flavor... MTG in the interview with Tucker talks about this exact topic... She raises money one dollar at a time... because lobbyists want nothing to do with h, and her with them. We should get rid of these lobbyists and get the candidates to work for their fund raising.

There are no Democrats in todays party that hold old JFK style liberal values... They are all Globalists, War Mongers, Neo-Socialists and whatnot...

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IB Joe wrote to Mike Powell <=-

Bernie Sanders?? He enriched himself during the election process...
paid his wife millions as a staffer. Where is this Democrat that
hasn't have rich donors attached to them... Never mind Democrat, politician whatever flavor... MTG in the interview with Tucker talks
about this exact topic... She raises money one dollar at a time...
because lobbyists want nothing to do with h, and her with them. We
should get rid of these lobbyists and get the candidates to work for
their fund raising.

Thomas Sowell made a compelling argument to pay congress critters $10 million a year and pay all campaign fees, then not allow any donations period.

That eliminates the campaign "war chest". That eliminates being beholden to people who donate. They finish their term with $40-60 million dollars in the bank - enough to comfortably live off of for the rest of their lives without any kind of "help" from donors.

And $10 million/year per congress critter really wouldn't impact the budget either.

My argument against this is that while it reduces incentive to bribe and such. For the people who are power hungry, it won't do anything. And that's our real problem right now.


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On 03 Dec 2023, Ron L. said the following...

Thomas Sowell made a compelling argument to pay congress critters $10 million a year and pay all campaign fees, then not allow any donations period.

That eliminates the campaign "war chest". That eliminates being
beholden to people who donate. They finish their term with $40-60
million dollars in the bank - enough to comfortably live off of for the rest of their lives without any kind of "help" from donors.

And $10 million/year per congress critter really wouldn't impact the budget either.

My argument against this is that while it reduces incentive to bribe and such. For the people who are power hungry, it won't do anything. And that's our real problem right now.

They have restrictive election laws in Chinada... Some years ago a member of parliament from my hometown lost his seat because he used some of his own money during his reelection... It was a small sum of money in comparison to US politics none the less... He was going to fight it... The PM at the time said he was going to table a vote to remove his pension... and he ran like a little bitch. BTW, said person even spent a couple months in jail on crime.

Can you imagine if the US dealt with their elected officials in the same manner... They'd need to build a bigger prison to house them.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

Can you imagine if the US dealt with their elected officials in the
same manner...

It would be nice. But the campaign finance laws are only used against the oppononents of the Elitists (ex: Dinesh D'Souza).

They'd need to build a bigger prison to house them.

Since most have committed treason, they wouldn't need to house them very long.


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On 04 Dec 2023, Ron L. said the following...

Can you imagine if the US dealt with their elected officials in the same manner...

It would be nice. But the campaign finance laws are only used against
the oppononents of the Elitists (ex: Dinesh D'Souza).

That's right so when Trump gets back in office and gets his DOJ to prosecute the rule of law there should be no comp[laints.

They'd need to build a bigger prison to house them.

Since most have committed treason, they wouldn't need to house them very long.

Interesting.... We can take that angle... And since the Democrats have trampled all over the constitution Trump should do so with the 22nd amendment.

GBG...

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

That's right so when Trump gets back in office and gets his DOJ to prosecute the rule of law there should be no comp[laints.

There will always be complaints from the Elitists. They think that they are above the law.

Interesting.... We can take that angle... And since the Democrats have trampled all over the constitution Trump should do so with the 22nd amendment.

Well, that Amendment was added by FDR to keep people from undoing the mess that he caused over 4 terms.

But I don't think Trump would want more than 4 more years. It makes more sense for him to come in, start trashing the Deep State and showing everyone what a swamp it is. Then have someone younger come into complete the job.


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But I don't think Trump would want more than 4 more years. It makes more sense
for him to come in, start trashing the Deep State and showing everyone what a >swamp it is. Then have someone younger come into complete the job.

Hopefully he picks a good VP candidate who will appeal to voters.


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On 05 Dec 2023, Ron L. said the following...

Well, that Amendment was added by FDR to keep people from undoing the
mess that he caused over 4 terms.

But I don't think Trump would want more than 4 more years. It makes
more sense for him to come in, start trashing the Deep State and showing everyone what a swamp it is. Then have someone younger come into
complete the job.

I'm sure Trump can get done what he needs to in 4 years... he doesn't need 16. If they don't JFK him or do the same thing the CIA did to Nixon... Trump needs to get rid of the Department of Education, send it back to the states and local government to run. He needs to purge the DOJ and FBI whereby he decentralizes the FBI. There has to be an open process of J6 where records aren't destroyed right after the report is released... The list goes on and on...

If Trump only does 1 term we need a fighter like him... Vivek ... Vivek for VP and Vivek for president 2028.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

I'm sure Trump can get done what he needs to in 4 years... he doesn't
need 16.

Probably not. But the Elitists will fight him every step of the way. Trump can probably do a good chunk in 4 years, but much of it will be tied up in legal BS.

If Trump only does 1 term we need a fighter like him... Vivek ... Vivek for VP and Vivek for president 2028.

I'm uncertain about Vivek. I need to see more of how he would function. And the VP position would certainly let us see that.


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On 06 Dec 2023, Ron L. said the following...

I'm sure Trump can get done what he needs to in 4 years... he doesn't need 16.

Probably not. But the Elitists will fight him every step of the way. Trump can probably do a good chunk in 4 years, but much of it will be
tied up in legal BS.

I remain optimistic, I see the populist movement spreading around the world. I think because of todays technology the globalists are finding it hard to hide their agenda.

I don't think Trump will be able to undo the dept of the globalists infiltration into our government... We need an other America First candidate to follow to put the death nail into that coffin.

If Trump only does 1 term we need a fighter like him... Vivek ... Viv for VP and Vivek for president 2028.

I'm uncertain about Vivek. I need to see more of how he would function. And the VP position would certainly let us see that.

I too am skeptical about Vivek.... not as skeptical about what Democrat would do if they were elected... They are all commies and hate the US and the citizens of the US.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

I remain optimistic, I see the populist movement spreading around the world. I think because of todays technology the globalists are finding
it hard to hide their agenda.

The scamdemic certainly made them much more overt than they usually are.

I don't think Trump will be able to undo the dept of the globalists infiltration into our government... We need an other America First candidate to follow to put the death nail into that coffin.

Any many years of us paying close attention to the candidates for many offices.

I too am skeptical about Vivek.... not as skeptical about what Democrat would do if they were elected... They are all commies and hate the US
and the citizens of the US.

I don't believe that most of them hate us. I think that they simply don't care. They think that they are above everyone else and that they are entitled to get a large slice of the pie, so to speak, even though they do nothing.

That, of course, doesn't mean that none of them hate us. But I think that, to the most of the Elitists, the plebes are nothing more than sheep.

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