• Re: New Mexico & 2nd Ame

    From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Alan Ianson on Sun Sep 17 00:38:00 2023
    On 09-16-23 05:45, Alan Ianson <=-
    spoke to Dr. What about Re: New Mexico & 2nd Amen <=-


    That's why he's been indicted (how many times now?) for nothingburgers.

    Nothingburgers?

    I don't think Donald Trump is going to get away with any (a
    few, pehaps) with any of the charges he now faces.

    I would not be surprised if he does not land in jail before next year.
    He has great trouble keeping his mouth shut.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Dale Shipp on Sun Sep 17 03:55:28 2023
    That's why he's been indicted (how many times now?) for nothingburgers.

    Nothingburgers?

    I don't think Donald Trump is going to get away with any (a
    few, pehaps) with any of the charges he now faces.

    I would not be surprised if he does not land in jail before next year.
    He has great trouble keeping his mouth shut.

    Yes, he keeps confessing and trash talking everyone involved. He's in a world of hurt.

    I don't see any way out for him at this point.

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  • From GREGORY DEYSS@1:267/159 to Alan Ianson on Sun Sep 17 10:12:57 2023
    Yes, he keeps confessing and trash talking everyone involved. He's in a world of hurt.

    I don't see any way out for him at this point.

    Just watch as Trump does what you can not understand.
    You might want to make sure no one is watching you as your jaw hangs open in disbelief, because I know he will come through on the otherside of all of
    this.
    Greg

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to GREGORY DEYSS on Mon Sep 18 09:09:15 2023
    GREGORY DEYSS -> Alan Ianson skrev 2023-09-17 16:12:
    Just watch as Trump does what you can not understand.

    He has done that many times now. Digging himself deeper and deeper into his hole. Impossible to understand.

    You might want to make sure no one is watching you as your jaw hangs
    open in disbelief, because I know he will come through on the otherside
    of all of this.

    You mean like taking five small loaves of bread and two small fish and feed all his disciples? Or even walking on water? Yeah, that would be really jaw dropping.

    I listened to one of his latest preaching to his faithful followers, where he bragged about having won over Obama, and then predicted that we are heading for *WWII* without him.

    Thus speaketh a Stable Genius?


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  • From Dr. What@1:3634/27 to GREGORY DEYSS on Mon Sep 18 07:39:00 2023
    GREGORY DEYSS wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    Just watch as Trump does what you can not understand.

    But that's pretty much everything Trump does since Alan can't understand anything.

    You might want to make sure no one is watching you as your jaw hangs
    open in disbelief, because I know he will come through on the otherside
    of all of this.

    Perhaps that's the reason for all the earthquakes lately: Ignorant Elitists jaws dropping and hitting the ground hard as they are forced to see Reality.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dale on Mon Sep 18 15:08:17 2023
    That's why he's been indicted (how many times now?) for nothingburgers.

    Nothingburgers?

    I don't think Donald Trump is going to get away with any (a
    few, pehaps) with any of the charges he now faces.

    I would not be surprised if he does not land in jail before next year. He has great trouble keeping his mouth shut.

    Delay, delay, delay. That is his game. Past the election, nobody
    will care and it will all go away. Especially with himself as POTUS.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Mon Sep 18 15:09:23 2023
    Hello Alan,

    I don't see any way out for him at this point.

    You wouldn't understand. You're from the Frozen Nawth.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Sep 18 15:52:04 2023
    Lee Lofaso -> Dale skrev 2023-09-18 15:08:
    Delay, delay, delay. That is his game. Past the election, nobody
    will care and it will all go away. Especially with himself as POTUS.

    But, but, but... The Emperor has no clothes! Does it really take a child to see that?


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Mon Sep 18 17:33:39 2023
    Hello Bj”rn,

    Just watch as Trump does what you can not understand.

    He has done that many times now. Digging himself deeper and deeper into his
    hole. Impossible to understand.

    Of course it is impossible for you to understand.
    You are from Sweden. Gregory is from New York.
    And the person in question used to be from New York.

    To truly understand the situation, one has to do as
    Billy Joel sang, be in a "New York state of mind."

    You might want to make sure no one is watching you as your jaw GD>hangs
    open in disbelief, because I know he will come through on GD>the otherside of all of this.

    You mean like taking five small loaves of bread and two small fish and feed
    all his disciples? Or even walking on water? Yeah, that would be really jaw
    dropping.

    You still don't get it.

    Dominance is the rule. Jesus showed it by example. And yet,
    there are those who still do not get it. Even though he performed
    his act, several times, in front of thousands.

    Made a believer out of them all. Except for doubting Thomas.

    "It is far better to give rather than to receive." ~Acts 25:30

    Did Jesus really say that?

    Gosh. I could not find that quote anywhere in the gospels.
    Or anywhere else in the entire bible, regardless of translation.

    Maybe Paul made it up.

    Now, the walking on water part. Jesus did get Peter to follow him
    outside of the boat. But once Peter realized he was walking on water
    we all know what happened next ...

    I listened to one of his latest preaching to his faithful followers, where he bragged about having won over Obama, and then predicted that we are heading for *WWII* without him.

    You must have missed his speech when he was talking about
    the British invading America during the Revolutionary War with
    fighter aircraft ...

    Thus speaketh a Stable Genius?

    Trump got his start playing football in college.
    This is where he learned the ruthless rule of dominance.
    He then applied his knowledge to build an empire in real
    estate. And then onwards to the world of politics.

    Football got its start in 1869 in New Jersey (Rutgers
    beat Princeton 6-4). This was after the Civil War, and
    Ulysses Grant was POTUS. The South and its Confederacy
    was defeated, and under occupation by federal troops.

    This was the beginning of the end of Yankee Rule.

    After that first football game between Rutgers and Princeton,
    the sport spread across the northeast, flourished across the
    Midwest and found glorious fame and glory on the West Coast.

    So what else was the South going to do?

    It had to play football.

    And you know what that means.

    Football became a religion.

    I am being serious.

    Nowhere does football mean more than in the South.

    As the late Marino Casem once put it -

    "In the South, football is religion. And Saturday is the holy day."

    I can show you stats to back up that statement.
    And there is no way that you, or anybody else, will
    be able to show in order to prove me wrong.

    The Georgia Bulldogs are the two-time defending football champions.
    Gaming to become the first three-time defending football champions.

    Sometimes I wonder why regions outside the South even bother playing
    football. I mean, what other schools have even made it to the level of
    play shown by those in the South?

    We even have our state and local elections on Saturday.
    All because Saturday is our designated holy day.

    But you know how it is.

    US Congressional and Presidential elections have to be on a Tuesday.

    How much more sacrilegious can one get?

    Donald Trump really needs to change this ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Björn Felten on Tue Sep 19 07:23:52 2023

    He has done that many times now. Digging himself deeper and deeper
    into his hole. Impossible to understand.
    Did he really commit these crimes or is the other side deathly afraid that they will lose their power, I believe it is the latter.

    You mean like taking five small loaves of bread and two small fish
    and feed all his disciples? Or even walking on water? Yeah, that would
    be really jaw dropping.
    Say it anyway you wish w/ biblical generalities. or none of those things.
    Trump is way better then Biden with his speech and his energy then Biden.

    I listened to one of his latest preaching to his faithful followers, where he bragged about having won over Obama, and then predicted that we are heading for *WWII* without him.
    Incorrect he was talking about preventing WWIII.
    but as long as your stuck on mentioning the World War 2, be sure to appreciate the allied powers for your existence, without them your country
    would look far different then it does today.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Sep 20 00:43:05 2023
    Hello Greg,

    He has done that many times now. Digging himself deeper and deeper
    into his hole. Impossible to understand.

    Did he really commit these crimes or is the other side deathly afraid that they will lose their power, I believe it is the latter.

    Donald Trump has been charged with 91 counts of criminal acts,
    all of them based on real evidence. There may be more coming.

    You mean like taking five small loaves of bread and two small fish
    and feed all his disciples? Or even walking on water? Yeah, that would
    be really jaw dropping.

    Say it anyway you wish w/ biblical generalities. or none of those things. Trump is way better then Biden with his speech and his energy then Biden.

    Joe Biden has not been charged with having committed any crimes.
    And no evidence has been shown of him having committed any. So why
    is there even an impeachment inquiry going on in the House? Where
    is the evidence to show reason?

    I listened to one of his latest preaching to his faithful followers,
    where he bragged about having won over Obama, and then predicted that
    we are heading for *WWII* without him.

    Incorrect he was talking about preventing WWIII.

    Trump has made mis-statements before. Including claims the British
    air force bombed George Washington's troops during the Revolutionary
    War.

    but as long as your stuck on mentioning the World War 2, be sure to appreciate the allied powers for your existence, without them your country would look far different then it does today.

    The US got into the war late in the game, waiting until December
    of 1941 when Japan woke us up with a raid on Pearl Harbor. What we
    did in Europe was very little, as most of the action was in the
    eastern part of Europe and what was then the USSR. Turkey stayed
    neutral, as did Switzerland. Along with Ireland.

    Had the USA stayed out of WWII, what would the world look like
    today? Would there still be an Imperial Japan? What there still
    be a Soviet Union? Would there still be a Nazi Germany?

    Or what about the USA, with Huey P. Long as POTUS?

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Mon Sep 18 21:14:00 2023
    I would not be surprised if he does not land in jail before next year.
    He has great trouble keeping his mouth shut.

    We had a governor here. Kept his nose clean mostly, and was initially
    fairly well liked. He liked running his mouth also. Despite being a Republican, he did not get re-elected for a second consecutive term, either.

    Die hard supporters don't mind it, but those whose votes they need to be getting usually don't care for it as much.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Sep 20 07:30:04 2023
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Bj”rn Felten <=-

    Did he really commit these crimes or is the other side deathly afraid
    that they will lose their power, I believe it is the latter.

    It's certainly the latter.

    Say it anyway you wish w/ biblical generalities. or none of those
    things. Trump is way better then Biden with his speech and his energy
    then Biden.

    A rock is way better than Biden. More personality, far more trustworthy and can speak better.

    but as long as your stuck on mentioning the World War 2, be sure to appreciate the allied powers for your existence, without them your
    country would look far different then it does today.

    He can't appreciate it. He's too busy trying to bring back the Fascism that we stomped out back then.

    But he lives in Clown World. And in Clown World all things are opposite. So "fascism" is what he thinks "democracy" is.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to ALL on Wed Sep 20 18:34:58 2023
    I would not be surprised if he does not land in jail before next DS>year.
    He has great trouble keeping his mouth shut.

    We had a governor here. Kept his nose clean mostly, and was
    initially fairly well liked. He liked running his mouth also.
    Despite being a Republican, he did not get re-elected for a
    second consecutive term, either.

    Sounds just like the MAGA clown with orange hair who got clobbered
    by a guy named Joe in the last presidential election ...

    Die hard supporters don't mind it, but those whose votes they need to be getting usually don't care for it as much.

    What a gift it would be for Joe to face the same MAGA clown with
    orange hair in the next presidential election ...

    For Life,
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Ron L. on Wed Sep 20 18:00:38 2023
    On 20 Sep 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    He can't appreciate it. He's too busy trying to bring back the Fascism that we stomped out back then.
    But he lives in Clown World. And in Clown World all things are
    opposite. So "fascism" is what he thinks "democracy" is.

    I agree with every single point that you have made here.
    These people who are on the other side are beyond lost, not only with what is happening today but they also, as it would seem have a desire to glorify history as they believe in alternative facts when it comes to what was.

    I would love to get my hands on their school records to see where they were academically, probably got something equivalent of a D minus in class or as so many were and currently are being carried along with passing grades, due
    to being a stoner or the class delinquent.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Sep 20 18:20:39 2023
    On 20 Sep 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    I would not be surprised if he does not land in jail before next DS>y
    He has great trouble keeping his mouth shut.

    We had a governor here. Kept his nose clean mostly, and was MP>initially fairly well liked. He liked running his mouth also. MP>Despite being a Republican, he did not get re-elected for a
    second consecutive term, either.

    Sounds just like the MAGA clown with orange hair who got clobbered
    by a guy named Joe in the last presidential election ...

    clobbered? more like the dems cheated.
    You expect us on the Right to believe Biden won anything, when Trump has stadiums filled to capacity w/ hundreds more waiting to get in and in all kinds of weather. Where slow dopie Biden spent much of his time in his basement eating chocolate chip ice cream.

    I am still waiting for you or one or more of your defenders to come in here hot and hammer out a fiery message to tell me and my friends on the Right what has Biden done that is positive.

    There is not one thing that I can think of that has been a Biden success story, not one. Please enlighten me if that is possible.

    Keep in Mind that America's total national debt surpassed $33 TRILLION President Joe Biden, following is tin the footsteps of his predecessors,
    and has contributed significantly toward its increase.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Sep 21 04:11:48 2023
    Hello Greg,

    [..]

    but as long as your stuck on mentioning the World War 2, be sure to appreciate the allied powers for your existence, without them your country would look far different then it does today.

    Vietnam was the only country in Asia that defeated Japan in WWII.
    Vietnam also defeated the USA in 1975. But no worries. We're friends
    now. As noted by President Joe Biden in a speech today at the United
    Nations, with the prime minister of Vietnam present.

    For Life,
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron L. on Thu Sep 21 04:11:54 2023
    Hello Ron,

    [..]

    but as long as your stuck on mentioning the World War 2, be sure to
    appreciate the allied powers for your existence, without them your
    country would look far different then it does today.

    He can't appreciate it. He's too busy trying to bring back the Fascism that
    we stomped out back then.

    President Joe Biden gave a speech at the United Nations today.
    He reminded everyone that he had been in Hanoi, and that the USA
    and Vietnam were former enemies that were now at peace. The prime
    minister of Vietnam was there, and nodded his approval.

    April 30, 1975. The last day Americans were in Vietnam. People
    were being rescued from the roof of the US Embassy in Saigon.

    Vietnam, a land about the size of New Mexico, lost at least
    1.2 million people in that conflict. The USA lost only 58,000
    people. But despite having the best equipped and best trained
    military in the world, the USA lost the war.

    Vietnam 1
    USA 0

    A few decades later the USA got into another conflict. This time
    in Afghanistan. And after spending two decades, for nothing, the
    USA finally got tired of it all and left.

    Afghaistan 1
    USA 0

    Violence begets violence. More violence begets more violence.
    The only solution for peace is not violence, but non-violence.

    But some folks never learn.

    But he lives in Clown World. And in Clown World all things are opposite. So "fascism" is what he thinks "democracy" is.

    The white flag principle worked wonders for us in Vietnam and
    Afghanistan. Why not everyplace else?

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  • From Dr. What@1:3634/27 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Sep 21 07:13:00 2023
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Ron L. <=-

    These people who are on the other side are beyond lost, not only with
    what is happening today but they also, as it would seem have a desire
    to glorify history as they believe in alternative facts when it comes
    to what was.

    They only know how to destroy. They can't create anything.

    I would love to get my hands on their school records to see where they were academically, probably got something equivalent of a D minus in
    class or as so many were and currently are being carried along with passing grades, due to being a stoner or the class delinquent.

    It probably shows them with good grades. Part of the problem with these people is that they were miseducated. The indoctrination started at home and continued through school.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Sep 21 07:01:22 2023
    On 21 Sep 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Greg,

    [..]

    but as long as your stuck on mentioning the World War 2, be sure to appreciate the allied powers for your existence, without them your cou
    would look far different then it does today.

    Vietnam was the only country in Asia that defeated Japan in WWII.
    Vietnam also defeated the USA in 1975. But no worries. We're friends
    now. As noted by President Joe Biden in a speech today at the United Nations, with the prime minister of Vietnam present.

    Just for fun but it is far from funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmKcNhyGXkI

    Joe Biden is NOT ok
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GcV248_QbE
    He is embarrassing - watch and you will see a first hand account as to why.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Sep 21 20:22:04 2023
    Hello Greg,

    [..]

    Vietnam was the only country in Asia that defeated Japan in WWII.
    Vietnam also defeated the USA in 1975. But no worries. We're friends
    now. As noted by President Joe Biden in a speech today at the United
    Nations, with the prime minister of Vietnam present.

    ust for fun but it is far from funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmKcNhyGXkI


    The US has the best-equipped, and the best-trained military in
    the world. And yet it cannot win against jungle fighters in Vietnam
    or Taliban fighters in Afghanistan? Something is very wrong with
    that picture.

    The fact of the matter is we do not end our wars well. We simply
    do not know how. If you think we ended our war in Afghanistan badly,
    you do not remember how we ended our war in Vietnam.

    Yes, the Taliban beat our butts. In much the same way as they
    beat the Russians. And the British. And the Greeks. And everybody
    else who crossed their path.

    Rudyard Kipling knew about this. And wrote about it in one of
    his books - "The Man Who Would Be King"

    I will not remind you what happened to his head.

    Joe Biden is NOT ok
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GcV248_QbE
    He is embarrassing - watch and you will see a first hand account as to why.

    Joe Biden mentioned during his speech to the United Nations that
    he had been in Hanoi, and got along fine with folks there. He also
    mentioned others who were there. Among them former soldiers from
    both the USA and Vietnam, exchanging gifts and the like, all in
    friendship rather than enmity.

    So why the snide remarks? What is it that he said in his speech
    that so offended you? Was it his presence? That he dare speak at
    an international assembly of diplomats and representatives from
    other countries?

    We should all be proud of our President, for having spoken at the
    United Nations and reminding us all to stand up against aggression.
    It was one of the finest speeches in his career as a politician.

    Thank you, Joe.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Sep 21 21:11:31 2023
    Lee Lofaso -> Gregory Deyss skrev 2023-09-21 20:22:
    The US has the best-equipped, and the best-trained military in
    the world. And yet it cannot win against jungle fighters in Vietnam
    or Taliban fighters in Afghanistan? Something is very wrong with
    that picture.

    They couldn't even defend their citizens against four unarmed passenger jets spending more than an hour in US airspace, over the most populated area. Scary as hell.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Sep 21 19:21:33 2023

    So why the snide remarks? What is it that he said in his speech
    that so offended you? Was it his presence? That he dare speak at
    an international assembly of diplomats and representatives from
    other countries?
    The gaffes and this misspeak were not at all impressive, as the video clearly demonstrates, it also shows incredible weakness. also not one mention at the UN about the out of control problem at the U.S. / Mexican border.
    Sept. 21, 2023, at 12:37 p.m. MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - U.S. border authorities encountered more than 142,000 migrants
    This WILL BE Joe Biden's achilles heal.

    The people! Unite! Will never be defeated!
    We are NOT united, to spite Joe Biden saying he would unite us, infact we have never been more divided.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Sep 22 08:02:20 2023
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    The people! Unite! Will never be defeated!

    We are NOT united, to spite Joe Biden saying he would unite us, infact
    we have never been more divided.

    That's because EVERYTHING they say is a lie and the opposite of Reality.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Sep 22 21:33:05 2023
    Hello Greg,

    So why the snide remarks? What is it that he said in his speech
    that so offended you? Was it his presence? That he dare speak at
    an international assembly of diplomats and representatives from
    other countries?

    The gaffes and this misspeak were not at all impressive, as the video clearly demonstrates, it also shows incredible weakness. also not one mention at the UN about the out of control problem at the U.S. / Mexican border.
    Sept. 21, 2023, at 12:37 p.m. MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - U.S. border authorities encountered more than 142,000 migrants
    This WILL BE Joe Biden's achilles heal.

    "Russia alone bears responsibility for this war. Russia alone
    has the power to end this war immediately." ~Joe Biden

    The people! Unite! Will never be defeated!

    We are NOT united, to spite Joe Biden saying he would unite us, infact we have never been more divided.

    All the delegates (with the exception of one lone delegate from
    Russia) at the UN roared with approval when Joe Biden made those
    remarks at the podium. Everybody knew what was going on, and who
    had caused all the trouble.

    "Russia believes that the world will grow weary and allow it to
    brutalize Ukraine without cosequence. If we allow Ukraine to be
    carved up, is the independence of any nation secure?" ~Joe Biden

    Republicans have criticized President Biden because they want
    the US to spend less on the war effort. Republicans such as
    Speaker Kevin McCarthy, who would rather the US default on its
    debt than taking care of what is really important. Republicans
    such as Donald Trump, who would bring a complete end to the
    war within a day by raising the white flag himself to Vladimir
    Putin.

    Fortunately for us all, solid majorities of Americans support
    providing weaponry to Ukraine to defend itself against Russia.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to GREGORY DEYSS on Fri Sep 22 22:16:02 2023
    Yes, he keeps confessing and trash talking everyone involved. He's in a
    world of hurt.

    I don't see any way out for him at this point.

    Just watch as Trump does what you can not understand.

    You are right. I don't understand why Trump does what he does.

    You might want to make sure no one is watching you as your jaw hangs open in disbelief, because I know he will come through on the otherside of all of this.

    Sure, he will come through on the other side of this.

    Even Trump now undertands that he is headed to the big house.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Sat Sep 23 12:45:01 2023
    You are right. I don't understand why Trump does what he does.
    There is no desire to understand either.
    The concepts of what Trump will bring in 2024 are easy to most to understand.

    List of things that have happened under Biden that wouldn't exist under Trump. It would never include ten thousand migrates a day into the U.S. illegally.
    It would never include inflation spiraling out of control.
    It would never include China buying any land within the U.S.
    It would never include a Chinese spy balloon allowing it traverse across the U.S.

    Imagine if you will with what has been alleged of Biden if these allocations were directed towards Trump.

    Biden is alleged being on the take with millions of dollars laundered into hundreds of LLC's, why was this done, if no other reason to attempt to hide these Millions of dollars. Bank Records already obtained show the money.
    It's clear to most sensible folks without question that was the reasoning. Everyone knows that Hunter had no such talent that was worthy of obtaining millions of dollars from foreign countries, he admitted to such in a interview on Good Morning America that he had no such talent or skill.
    The only qualification Hunter ever had was his last name of Biden and having a father who was vice president.

    Even Trump now undertands that he is headed to the big house.
    This is and will remain a fantasy, because it's never ever going to happen.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Sat Sep 23 20:45:48 2023
    Hello Alan,

    Yes, he keeps confessing and trash talking everyone involved. He's in a
    world of hurt.

    I don't see any way out for him at this point.

    Just watch as Trump does what you can not understand.

    You are right. I don't understand why Trump does what he does.

    His own lawyers do not understand why he does what he does.

    You might want to make sure no one is watching you as your jaw hangs open
    in
    disbelief, because I know he will come through on the otherside of all of
    this.

    Sure, he will come through on the other side of this.

    Jim Morrison of The Doors also said (sang) the same thing.

    Even Trump now undertands that he is headed to the big house.

    Trump said he will not pardon himself. And why should he?
    As POTUS, he can always fire the AG and replace him with another.
    So like Alfred E. Newman, why worry?

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Sun Sep 24 06:05:26 2023
    Hello Bj”rn,

    The US has the best-equipped, and the best-trained military in
    the world. And yet it cannot win against jungle fighters in Vietnam
    or Taliban fighters in Afghanistan? Something is very wrong with
    that picture.

    They couldn't even defend their citizens against four unarmed passenger jets
    spending more than an hour in US airspace, over the most populated area. Scary as hell.

    And yet, GWB had been warned of the possibility, before the events
    actually happened, by our own intelligence sources. That is even far
    more scary.

    How safe is the USA, or any other country, from attack by terrorist organizations? Not just al-Qaeda, but all (both foreign and domestic).
    Other countries have also been hit (such as France due to a newspaper
    printing comics Muslims did not like). Or even Sweden (due to burning
    of a Quran). And who can forget Timothy McVeigh (Army of God) who
    blew up a federal building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 men, women
    and children?

    No country is truly safe from terrorists or acts of terrorism.

    But when a president eggs on a crowd to ransack and take over the
    capital building and threaten to kill those inside is even worse than
    what we experienced on 9-11.

    And horror the thought the ringleader could get elected POTUS.
    For a second term. As if he had done nothing wrong.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Sep 24 00:47:28 2023
    Biden is alleged being on the take with millions of dollars laundered into hundreds of LLC's, why was this done, if no other reason to attempt to hide these Millions of dollars.

    These are baseless allegations.

    Even Trump now undertands that he is headed to the big house.

    This is and will remain a fantasy, because it's never ever going to happen.

    There is a big difference between the baseless allegations the right makes against Biden and the charges Trump is facing. Trump admits his crimes himself.

    We'll have to see at the conclusion of his trial(s) whether or not Trump will have to spend time in jail and if so, how much.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Sep 25 07:09:07 2023
    Gregory Deyss -> Bj”rn Felten skrev 2023-09-19 13:23:
    are heading for *WWII* without him.

    Incorrect he was talking about preventing WWIII.

    DUH? He may have been thinking of WWIII, but he said WWII. More proof that his mind is totally corrupt.

    but as long as your stuck on mentioning the World War 2, be sure to appreciate the allied powers for your existence, without them your country would look far different then it does today.

    Can you name a single country on the entire European continent, that was never invaded by the Germans? Without any help, thank you very much.

    If you want a what-if, here's one:

    If FDR had listened to Winston's warning about Stalin, and stopped the Soviet Lend & Lease program, the Soviet era would have been ended circa 1942, rather than 1991.

    The Germans would have been defeated anyway, a simple spreadsheet can show you that. But:

    1) No Cold war.
    2) No Iron Curtain.
    3) No Korea War.
    4) No Mao in China
    5) No Nuclear Arms Race
    6) No Vietnam War.
    7) No fanatical US Commie Scare.
    8) No CIA interventions, whenever a socialist country appeared.
    9) ... 39) or so, much more
    40) No Ukraine war.



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Mon Sep 25 10:05:00 2023
    Biden is alleged being on the take with millions of dollars laundered into hundreds of LLC's, why was this done, if no other reason to attempt to hide these Millions of dollars.

    These are baseless allegations.

    They are allegations. They are not baseless.

    There is a big difference between the baseless allegations the right makes aga
    st Biden and the charges Trump is facing. Trump admits his crimes himself.

    So if you don't admit your crimes, you are not guilty?

    We'll have to see at the conclusion of his trial(s) whether or not Trump will ve to spend time in jail and if so, how much.

    He may, we will see.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Mon Sep 25 12:47:10 2023
    Biden is alleged being on the take with millions of dollars laundered into >> > hundreds of LLC's, why was this done, if no other reason to attempt to
    hide these Millions of dollars.

    These are baseless allegations.

    They are allegations. They are not baseless.

    The "Biden Crime Family" narrative is baseless, it is going nowhere.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Tue Sep 26 07:38:49 2023
    On 25 Sep 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    Biden is alleged being on the take with millions of dollars laundered i
    hundreds of LLC's, why was this done, if no other reason to attempt to
    these Millions of dollars.

    These are baseless allegations.

    They are allegations. They are not baseless.

    We'll have to see at the conclusion of his trial(s) whether or not Trump ve to spend time in jail and if so, how much.

    He may, we will see.
    Another observation of Trump and his sham indictments.
    Before Donald Trump was President he was a Business man, Worth Billions. Nearly everyone loved him, including Democrats.
    Some of these Dems who are just as famous as Donald Trump.
    There are photos that exist with smiles from everyone within these photographs.

    Additionally Trump was 70 in 2016 and all that time (70 years) there has not been one serious instance of what there is today with him facing many indictments in multiple states. These indictments are a complete sham, almost no one wants to admit what is really going on or happening here.
    The Democratic machine is trying to stop him, that's what this is.
    It's beyond Obvious.

    I'm still waiting for ANY supporters on the Left.
    To tell us what good and promising things Biden has brought.
    From day 1 it Biden has been a complete disaster. He is a cognitive mess and he is worse today. This is not something to suggest he is getting worse, as we are already there. The gaffes, the mumbling which results always with a question. with what was that? As we back up the video to try to understand what was just said.

    The Migration problem.
    The Numbers for September are staggering
    MEXICO CITY, Sept 21 (Reuters) - U.S. border authorities encountered more than 142,000 migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border in the first half of Sept.

    Yet we are told that the border is secure.
    It's has as many holes just as swiss cheese; has holes.
    It's not secure at all.
    Wide- eyed Alejandro Mayorkas needs to be impeached, along with Biden and Merit-less Merrick Garland.
    Then we can start to talk about, being united.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Tue Sep 26 09:09:00 2023
    Another observation of Trump and his sham indictments.
    Before Donald Trump was President he was a Business man, Worth Billions. Nearly everyone loved him, including Democrats.
    Some of these Dems who are just as famous as Donald Trump.
    There are photos that exist with smiles from everyone within these photographs

    He was allegedly a registered Democrat so they loved him until he ran
    against them and beat their darling of the ball.

    From day 1 it Biden has been a complete disaster. He is a cognitive mess and h
    is worse today. This is not something to suggest he is getting worse, as we ar
    already there. The gaffes, the mumbling which results always with a question. th what was that? As we back up the video to try to understand what was just s
    d.

    He apparently has upset the leaders of at least two countries recently when
    he wandered offstage during joint press conferences (Brazil being one).
    The Saudis are not at all happy with him, either.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Tue Sep 26 19:28:29 2023
    On 26 Sep 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    He was allegedly a registered Democrat so they loved him until he ran against them and beat their darling of the ball.
    Totally Right, Trump did not need to run, he could of retired in Florida with the best life for the rest of his days.
    He ran for President because this country has provided his family with so much opportunity, he has said as much in numerous interviews, along with Trump was tired of seeing our nation being ripped off. The Trump story has more to do with America providing his family with opportunities, it also has much to do with his family being innovative and being ambitious as well as driven that dates back to his grandfather, and what he put into motion.

    He apparently has upset the leaders of at least two countries recently when he wandered offstage during joint press conferences (Brazil being one). The Saudis are not at all happy with him, either.

    Not Wise specially with the Saudis, Biden is lost, he couldn't even get off the stage without bumping into flag poles and what not.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Wed Sep 27 14:22:46 2023
    Hello Mike,

    Biden is alleged being on the take with millions of dollars laundered
    into
    hundreds of LLC's, why was this done, if no other reason to attempt to
    hide
    these Millions of dollars.

    These are baseless allegations.

    They are allegations. They are not baseless.

    Baseless accusations. No evidence to support or substantiate
    the claim(s). IOW, Mike Powell is full of shit. As usual.

    Want to try again?

    There is a big difference between the baseless allegations the right
    makes aga
    st Biden and the charges Trump is facing. Trump admits his crimes himself.

    So if you don't admit your crimes, you are not guilty?

    Where is the evidence to support your claim(s)?
    Where is the evidence to support Speaker McCarthy's claim(s)
    in reference to his impeachment inquiry? Oh, that's right.
    Neither of you has any evidence at all to support your claim(s).
    Just a finger that keeps pointing in the wrong direction.

    We'll have to see at the conclusion of his trial(s) whether or not Trump
    will
    ve to spend time in jail and if so, how much.

    He may, we will see.

    Trump is facing 91 indictments, all of them based on real evidence.
    None of that evidence has been thrown out of court. Whether the jury
    finds him "guilty" or "not guilty" remains to be seen.

    BTW, hearsay is not evidence.

    For Life,
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Sep 27 14:23:05 2023
    Hello Greg,

    Biden is alleged being on the take with millions of dollars
    laundered i
    hundreds of LLC's, why was this done, if no other reason to
    attempt to
    these Millions of dollars.

    These are baseless allegations.

    They are allegations. They are not baseless.

    We'll have to see at the conclusion of his trial(s) whether or not
    Trump
    ve to spend time in jail and if so, how much.

    He may, we will see.

    Another observation of Trump and his sham indictments.

    A conviction by a jury of his peers is all that is needed to lock
    him up in prison - for what amounts to the rest of his life. And then
    the good people of this fine country will finally have something to
    celebrate, as the guilty have been brought to justice.

    Before Donald Trump was President he was a Business man, Worth Billions. Nearly everyone loved him, including Democrats.

    And today he is a soon-to-be convicted felon who will be spending
    the rest of his life in prison. How sad.

    Some of these Dems who are just as famous as Donald Trump.

    "Life is not fair." ~JFK

    For Life,
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Thu Sep 28 14:08:29 2023
    Hello Bj”rn,

    are heading for *WWII* without him.

    Incorrect he was talking about preventing WWIII.

    DUH? He may have been thinking of WWIII, but he said WWII. More proof that his mind is totally corrupt.

    A malaprop. Happens all the time. Even to the best of us.
    That is not what I find disconcerting.

    but as long as your stuck on mentioning the World War 2, be GD>our
    country would look far different then it does today.

    Can you name a single country on the entire European continent, that was never invaded by the Germans?

    Not only can I name one, but I can name two.

    Without any help, thank you very much.

    Switzerland is one. Turkey is another. Both remained neutral
    during WWII, and the Germans respected their neutrality.

    If you want a what-if, here's one:

    If FDR had listened to Winston's warning about Stalin, and stopped the Soviet Lend & Lease program, the Soviet era would have been ended
    circa 1942, rather than 1991.

    How presumptious for some to think so. However, there are a few
    things some historians have conveniently left out.

    As you know, Churchill had been warning about Hitler for quite some
    time before folks in England finally started to believe a thing he
    said. And then, after they gave him a fair chance to have his say,
    he told them to prepare for Germans to invade the country. And then,
    Hitler backed off and allowed British soldiers to escape Dunkirk to
    fight another day.

    This is what got Churchill invited to join FDR and Stalin. The
    three of them then met in Ukraine to prepare the final battle to
    end the evil of Hitlerism. Which is still being fought today ...

    The Germans would have been defeated anyway, a simple spreadsheet can show you that. But:

    1) No Cold war.
    2) No Iron Curtain.
    3) No Korea War.
    4) No Mao in China
    5) No Nuclear Arms Race
    6) No Vietnam War.
    7) No fanatical US Commie Scare.
    8) No CIA interventions, whenever a socialist country appeared.
    9) ... 39) or so, much more
    40) No Ukraine war.

    You overlooked one key fact - FDR died in April, 1945. Adolf Hitler
    was still alive, and Germany remained under Nazi control.
    The Empire of Japan was also very much alive, with the Emperor still
    regarded as a god.

    FDR, Stalin, and Churchill had made a pact between themselves how
    to end the war in the Atlantic, and the war in the Pacific.

    When FDR died, would the pact still be honored by Harry Truman?
    That was a question that neither Stalin nor Churchill knew. And could
    Truman be trusted to do his part, if he chose to do as FDR wanted?

    What I am getting at is FDR and Stalin were not just leaders of
    powers that could do Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan in, but
    those two leaders were also personal friends. And trusted each
    other to do what was needed to get done.

    When FDR left the building, there was no such trust between Stalin
    and Truman. And neither of them trusted Churchill, as he always had
    his head swimming with scotch.

    FDR and Truman had two very different worldviews. One was
    internationalist, the other globalist. While FDR and Stalin
    shared the same vision, Truman did not. Churchill was left
    out, once FDR was out of the picture.

    Just weeks before FDR's untimely death, the three of them had
    met in Crimea (Ukraine) to plot the end of the war in both theaters.
    As well as the beginnings of what was to become the United Nations.

    The Plan was for the Soviet Union to wait until the fall of 1945
    in order to engage the Japanese. This was done to allow allies to
    concentrate their forces to end the war in Europe prior to going
    all-out in the Pacific theater.

    Stalin did his part, waiting until the time was right. When it
    came, in due accordance with the pact he had made with FDR and
    Churchill, Stalin ordered Soviet troops into Japan. And then we
    all know what Truman did. Dropped two atomic bombs on Japanese
    cities, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese men,
    women and children. Just because he could.

    Please tell me why Truman ordered two cities in Japan to be
    vaporized, as Japan was no longer a threat to anybody? It had
    no military to speak of, and barely an army at all. And also
    for their emperor to renounce his claim of being a god.

    I do not believe Truman's decision to vaporize Japanese people
    had anything to do with stopping Japan as a military power.
    He did hate Japanese. With a passion. And called them a bunch
    of nasty names. Which will not be repeated in this forum.

    So why did Truman atomize Hiroshima and Nagasaki? It was a warning.
    A warning to Stalin. Letting him know what cities he had next on his
    list.

    General Curtis LeMay was Truman's most ardent supporter. He had
    recommended Truman do so, and not stop, as the USA had The Bomb and
    nobody else in the entire world did. And this was right before the
    US Commie Scare went mainstream in the 50s.

    No wonder the Soviet Union developed the H-Bomb.

    The United Nations Charter was adoped in 1948.

    Remember that meeting in Crimea? The three deciding
    amongst themselves which one was to be World President?

    FDR was supposed to have been the first president.
    But his untimely death gummed up the works.
    And Winston Churchill was never sober enough.
    That left only one candidate fit for the job ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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    We! Reject! The president-nonelect!

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