Fidonet POLITICS Echo Policies
Updated 25 July 2021

Moderator: Mike Powell (1:2320/105)

POLITICS is for the discussion and debate of topical political discussions, primarily involving an American point of view. Due to the nature of these discussions, emotions can and will run high. The following policies are in place to keep the peace in here as best as possible. Your participating in this echo implies implicit agreement to abiding by these policies.

# Real names are required to be used in this echo. No aliases. If
your BBS software will not allow you to toggle between real name and
alias in the message header, sign your messages with your real name.

# There is no such thing as "free speech" in this echo. You can speak your
mind within reason but the moderator reserves the right to stop and
immediately correct boorish behavior. We're all adults; let's act like
it. There are other political, "free speech" echos on Fidonet.

# Keep your temper in check.

# Please keep the swearing to a minumum. It can lead to tempers which are
not kept in check. The moderator reserves the right to stop and immediately
correct those who make this a habit. We're all adults; let's act like it.
If you cannot express your views without swearing, please find another
"free speech" political arena to express them in.

# Please do not discuss illegal topics in this echo.

# Agree to disagree. "Discretion is the better part of valor" -- William
Shakespeare

# Resist logical fallacies. Don't know what a logical fallacy is? The
website logicalfallicies.info is a great place to check. We all fall
victim to logical fallacies but don't fall for them all the time.

# PUSU ("put up or shut up"; basically show proof of the facts you're using
to backup your argument) is in force here. However, in this day and age
of the Internet and the World Wide Web, fact-checking can be done at any
time by anyone.

# You can discuss religion in here but no proselytizing (see the next
policy).

# No personal attacks against one's person, their family, or their beliefs.
This goes with the policy above.

# Have a sense of humor. It's amazing how a little humor will go a long
way.

# Posting of news/political articles in the echo are allowed provided that
the source is properly credited and the text is corrected to pure ASCII
(no high ASCII nor gobblygook caused by weird codepages in use by
Microsoft products). Conversion to CP437 is appreciated.

# All messages must be in English.

# No blatently off-topic posts, such as BBS ads, "test" messages, network
politics, et cetera.

# Please don't gate this echo to USENET, a mailing list, another BBS
mail network, an online Fidonet mail archive, or anything else
without the moderator's express and written permission.

# This echo does not recognize any local or regional echomail policies
such as EP1. This echo originates in Zone 1 and follows Zone 1 policies
concerning the "echolist".

# The moderator is the sole person authorized to correct off-topic behavior
publically in the echo. You are encouraged to contact the moderator via
netmail (preferred) or email privately first.

# Any moderator action is OFF-TOPIC for public discussion in the echo. If
you have a problem with a moderator action, please contact him privately.
IF YOU ARE CONTACTED VIA NETMAIL BY THE MODERATOR, *DO NOT* RESPOND BACK
PUBLICLY. IF YOU CANNOT FOLLOW THIS RULE, please do not participate here.

# The moderator wishes to do as little moderation as possible in here so
please behave yourself and act accordingly.

# This is a living document and is subject to change when need be.

# This document will be posted near the 1st of each month and
when needed.

# Please don't hesitate to contact the moderator with any questions in
private.

Thank you for your participation in POLITICS!

NOTE for SYSOPS: There is a more moderated option available. Please contact
the moderator for details.

-- Mike Powell
POLITICS Moderator


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Fidonet POLITICS Echo Policies.
Whatever they may be.
As noted. Or not.
By the owners (participants) of this echo.

Rules, Rules, Rules!
Written by moderator wannabe Mike Powell himself!
Never mind the nonsense.
He just likes to pretend he is.
Almost like Hamlet.
I did say almost.
As Mike is still very much alive.
And hopefully well.
Let's get down to bidness.
Real bidness.
Where participants separate
the men from the boys.

[..]

After posting all those "rules", Mike Powell ditched them all.
None of them matter, as he is lord and master of his own little
world. And it is he himself who gets to decide who or what gets
to play in it. -

NOTE for SYSOPS: There is a more moderated option available. Please contact
the moderator for details.

There is only one wee bit of a problem with Mike Powell's way
of thinking. Aside from his silly claim to be "moderator". Seems
he forgot all about FidoNet Policy (P4) -

2.1.3 Responsible for All Traffic Entering FidoNet Via the Node

The sysop listed in the nodelist entry is responsible for all traffic
entering FidoNet via that system. This includes (but is not limited
to) traffic entered by users, points, and any other networks for which
the system might act as a gateway.

Did you get that part, Mike Powell? It is part of FidoNet Policy
Document, Version 4.07, dated June 9, 1989

Here is a bit more, from that same document -

If a sysop allows "outside" messages to enter FidoNet via the system,
the gateway system must be clearly identified by FidoNet node number
as the point of origin of that message, and it must act as a gateway
in the reverse direction. Should such traffic result in a violation
of Policy, the sysop must rectify the situation.

Do you understand what that means, Mike Powell? Since you have
chosen not to comply with current FidoNet Policy (P4), that means
you are in clear violation of your oath, the mandatory punishment
being AUTOMATIC EXCOMMUNITICATION.

You see, Mike Powell swore an oath. An oath to abide by P4 and all
the current policies of FidoNet. And he failed the test.

Don't believe me?

Take a look -

2.2

You must indicate that you have read, and agree, to abide by this
document and all the current policies of FidoNet.

Since Mike Powell is a nodelisted sysop, it is obvious he swore
that oath of allegiance. And freely chose to break it, as noted by
his message.

Directly to Mike Powell -

Your note for sysops is a clear violation of Fidonet, which has
earned you an automatic excommunication, in due accordance with P4.

Have a great day.

For Life,
Lee

--
Why not enjoy the go?

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Fidonet POLITICS Echo Policies
Updated 4 February 2023

Moderator: John Tuttle (1:2320/195)

POLITICS is for the discussion and debate of topical political discussions, primarily involving an American point of view. It is also unfortunately a place where misinformation runs rampant, so take anything read here as the rantings of partisans and not as facts. The following policies are in
place to keep the peace in here as best as possible. Your participating in this echo implies implicit agreement to abiding by these policies.

# REAL NAMES are required to be used in this echo.
# No swearing, and NO discussion of illegal topics.
# You can discuss religion in here but no proselytizing.
# NO personal attacks against one's person or their family.
# There is no such thing as "free speech" in this echo. There are other
political, "free speech" echos on Fidonet.
# All messages, and shared news articles, must be in ENGLISH.

Thank you for your participation in POLITICS!

-- John Tuttle
POLITICS Moderator
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Fidonet POLITICS Echo Policies
Updated 4 February 2023

Moderator: John Tuttle (1:2320/195)

POLITICS is for the discussion and debate of topical political discussions, primarily involving an American point of view. It is also unfortunately a place where misinformation runs rampant, so take anything read here as the rantings of partisans and not as facts. The following policies are in
place to keep the peace in here as best as possible. Your participating in this echo implies implicit agreement to abiding by these policies.

# REAL NAMES are required to be used in this echo.
# No swearing, and NO discussion of illegal topics.
# You can discuss religion in here but no proselytizing.
# NO personal attacks against one's person or their family.
# There is no such thing as "free speech" in this echo. There are other
political, "free speech" echos on Fidonet.
# All messages, and shared news articles, must be in ENGLISH.

Thank you for your participation in POLITICS!

-- John Tuttle
POLITICS Moderator



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John Tuttle -> All skrev 2024-03-01 11:25:

POLITICS is for the discussion and debate of topical political discussions,
primarily involving an American point of view.

Holy Smoke! So this is where the degrading of this echo comes from?

Whoever (as if I did not know) made this decision? This Tuttle proxy, that never posts anything at all? Or is it a remnant from the decade old zone war?

The sooner we get rid of this, the sooner we can clean up this echo, and get rid of all the uneducated, brainwashed elements, that are now making the S/N ratio unbearable.

Many thanks to the handful of writers, that are now making actually readable contributions. You probably know who you are -- Kudos!

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Conning people is easy. You just need to overcome their intelligence. But convincing people they've been conned is much harder. You need to overcome their pride.
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POLITICS is for the discussion and debate of topical political discussions,
primarily involving an American point of view.

Holy Smoke! So this is where the degrading of this echo comes from?

I wasn't offended by it at all! lol

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POLITICS is for the discussion and debate of topical political discussions,
primarily involving an American point of view.

Holy Smoke! So this is where the degrading of this echo comes from?

I wasn't offended by it at all! lol

I put that there when I took over from Sean a while back. I put it there because people like Bjorn, Al, etc., only like to complain about the US and what we are up to but, when asked about politics in their own countries don't ever seem to want to talk about it.

On the rare instances that they do want to talk about their own countries, they only seemed to want to do so when it makes them look superior to everyone else.

That, and the fact that the echo originates in Z1 from a US node, caused "American point of view" to be inserted in the description. If they want to start a World Politics echo, they are more than welcome to. If they want to "unzip their lips" and start talking here about politics in their own area of the world -- the good and bad and not just the candy-coated bits -- that would be nice, too, but I would not expect that to happen very far beyond whatever little discussion this post might trigger.

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Hello Bj”rn,

POLITICS is for the discussion and debate of topical political
discussions, primarily involving an American point of view.

Holy Smoke! So this is where the degrading of this echo comes from?

From the john.

Whoever (as if I did not know) made this decision?

He did say "primarily involving an American point of view" -
- which can only be expressed while sitting on the john.

This Tuttle proxy, that never posts anything at all?

Participants own the echo. Even if the post(s) are nonsense.

Or is it a remnant from the decade old zone war?

Once upon a time a remnant shut themselves off from the world,
but returned when they found no intelligent life outside.

The sooner we get rid of this, the sooner we can clean up this echo, and get
rid of all the uneducated, brainwashed elements, that are now
making the S/N ratio unbearable.

What is there to clean up? Oops. Forget I said that. Not all
participants have graduated to using bidets.

Many thanks to the handful of writers, that are now making actually readable
contributions. You probably know who you are -- Kudos!

Ready ... Aim ... Fire

Never miss when using a bidet ...

Do not even need a concealed permit ...

For Life,
Lee

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Fox News Slogan - Rich people paying rich people
to tell middle class people to blame poor people.

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