• Bus routes a disaster...

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALL on Fri Aug 18 09:45:00 2023
    So this is a week old but is still pertinent as school was eventually
    cancelled for older students for this whole week (+ the two remaining days
    last week) per a separate TV news article.

    New school bus routes a 'disaster,' Kentucky superintendent admits. Last
    kids got home at 10 pm

    SOURCE: The AP via MSN
    https://tinyurl.com/4nczm8h3

    LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) - "Kentucky's largest school system cancelled the second and third day of classes after a disastrous overhaul of the transportation system that left some children on buses until just before 10 p.m. on opening day (Wed, Aug 9).

    "Jefferson County Public Schools Superintendent Marty Pollio called it a 'transportation disaster' in a video posted on social media Thursday morning. Pollio apologized to the district's 96,000 students along with their families, the bus drivers, and the school officials who had to stay with students for hours as they waited on buses to arrive Wednesday.

    "He called the decision to close schools on Thursday and Friday the most difficult of his career but said it was necessary. District officials will spend the four days before Monday reviewing the routes and having drivers practice them, he said. The district that encompasses Louisville has 65,000
    bus riders, according to its website."

    The article went on to mention that the plan includes having elementary
    school students catching busses as early as 6am in the morning. It also
    goes on to mention that they paid a third-party to come up with the plan.
    Other sources have indicated that this plan was created by AI, and that
    several of the kids that were dropped off late were dropped off in places
    other than their bus stops (or even stops along their bus route), forcing parents to come pick them up.

    They basically staggered start and end times for various schools. In past,
    all of the elementary schools started at one time, while all Jr High and
    High schools started at another. Under this plan, school start times were assigned per school, and some kids were not expected to get home before 6pm, but that turned out to be much later.

    The state has suggested breaking the school system up into two districts,
    among other possible scenarios.

    This is the same school district that, several years ago, set up school
    "pods" where, if your student didn't get registered in time for their local area school (something that used to be automatic if you lived in the
    district), they would be forced to attend one of three other schools that
    could be up to 25 miles away -- and with you supplying your own
    transportation.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sat Aug 19 09:01:47 2023
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    school students catching busses as early as 6am in the morning. It
    also goes on to mention that they paid a third-party to come up with
    the plan.

    Who wants to bet that the "third-party" had a high ESG score?

    Other sources have indicated that this plan was created by AI

    The problem with AI is blindly trusting it. So they can't blame AI since it was their job to double check what the AI produced.

    They basically staggered start and end times for various schools. In past, all of the elementary schools started at one time, while all Jr
    High and High schools started at another.

    Which was the way things worked when I was a kid.

    The high schoolers got up early, picked up the bus and went to school.
    The busses did another around to pick up the Jr. High students.
    And did another run for the elementary students.

    Then did the same thing to take the kids back home.

    So if a bunch of school admistrators can't do something like a bus schedule, how do they think they can educate our kids?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sun Aug 20 15:11:00 2023
    Who wants to bet that the "third-party" had a high ESG score?

    Not sure about that, but the third party did previously screw up a similar project in Ohio.

    Other sources have indicated that this plan was created by AI

    The problem with AI is blindly trusting it. So they can't blame AI since it was their job to double check what the AI produced.

    Correct.

    The high schoolers got up early, picked up the bus and went to school.
    The busses did another around to pick up the Jr. High students.
    And did another run for the elementary students.

    For some reason, they decided to "mix things up" and recreate the wheel.
    That reason was supposedly a lack of bus drivers, but I don't think the multi-staggered approach they came up with really addresses that. They are overworking the drivers they do have while keeping elementary kids (in particular) away from home a whole lot of extra time.

    The first day of school was 8/9. They cancelled school to have time to
    "fix the issue" from 8/10-8/17. On 8/18, the Jr High and elementary school kids went back. My neice is an elementary student. Her school now lets
    out at 4:20pm. The bus is scheduled to let her off at her bus stop at
    6:15pm. On Friday, 8/18, its projected arrival time was 7:50pm.

    Luckily she didn't ride the bus that day. The administrators cannot figure
    out that a school bus ride (that requires a bus change!) that it scheduled
    to last 2 hours upsets parents when the school is less than 5 miles away.

    IMHO, I think they are trying to force parents to start providing their own transportation rather than provide the transporation that the parents' tax dollars are supposedly paying for.

    So if a bunch of school admistrators can't do something like a bus schedule, how do they think they can educate our kids?

    IMHO, most teachers are better than the administrators who come up with
    these ideas. Not all, mind you, but most of them. That said, I still take your point as it is the administrators that set the tone for the rest of
    the system. At this rate, I wonder if they won't have to lower the math standards just so the administrators will understand it.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Mon Aug 21 08:07:12 2023
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    Who wants to bet that the "third-party" had a high ESG score?

    Not sure about that, but the third party did previously screw up a
    similar project in Ohio.

    Then it's very probable that they had a high ESG score. Companies like that tend to staff with "diverse" people instead of competant people.

    For some reason, they decided to "mix things up" and recreate the
    wheel. That reason was supposedly a lack of bus drivers, but I don't
    think the multi-staggered approach they came up with really addresses that. They are overworking the drivers they do have while keeping elementary kids (in particular) away from home a whole lot of extra
    time.

    I know that in my dad's school system, enrollment declined with the Baby Bust. So they closed some schools since they didn't have enough kids to make it worth while.

    They didn't have a lack of bus drivers, but they did have a lack of kids needing to be transported. It's not cost effective to use a bus to haul 5 kids to school.

    They solved the problem by staggering schools in a certain area instead of school type. The High Schools got their own buses, but they had enough kids. But the Jr. High, which was next to the Elementary School, was on the same schedule and used the same bus runs.

    IMHO, I think they are trying to force parents to start providing their own transportation rather than provide the transporation that the
    parents' tax dollars are supposedly paying for.

    That's very probable. If you don't have to pay to bus students, that money can go into hiring more mentally ill "teachers" (like the one who got fired recently because he was truely mentally ill and had a record of violent outbreaks).

    IMHO, most teachers are better than the administrators who come up with these ideas. Not all, mind you, but most of them. That said, I still take your point as it is the administrators that set the tone for the
    rest of the system.

    It's an indication of the quality of the school system as a whole.

    At this rate, I wonder if they won't have to lower
    the math standards just so the administrators will understand it.

    Don't give them any more (bad) ideas. :)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Mon Aug 21 08:58:00 2023
    For some reason, they decided to "mix things up" and recreate the
    wheel. That reason was supposedly a lack of bus drivers, but I don't think the multi-staggered approach they came up with really addresses that. They are overworking the drivers they do have while keeping elementary kids (in particular) away from home a whole lot of extra time.

    I know that in my dad's school system, enrollment declined with the Baby Bust.
    So they closed some schools since they didn't have enough kids to make it wort
    while.

    They didn't have a lack of bus drivers, but they did have a lack of kids needing to be transported. It's not cost effective to use a bus to haul 5 kid
    to school.

    Agreed, but that doesn't seem to be the issue now here. The issue seems
    more to be that the older bus drivers have left the profession, some of the others did not return after COVID, and the younger, less motivated
    generation of potential workers are not driving busses.

    Now that the schools are finally back up near pre-COVID capacity, they are
    in dire straits.

    IMHO, I think they are trying to force parents to start providing their own transportation rather than provide the transporation that the parents' tax dollars are supposedly paying for.

    That's very probable. If you don't have to pay to bus students, that money ca
    go into hiring more mentally ill "teachers" (like the one who got fired recently because he was truely mentally ill and had a record of violent outbreaks).

    Or the ones who have been having intercourse with increasingly younger students.

    IMHO, most teachers are better than the administrators who come up with these ideas. Not all, mind you, but most of them. That said, I still take your point as it is the administrators that set the tone for the rest of the system.

    It's an indication of the quality of the school system as a whole.

    Indeed. Jefferson County is not only the largest student-population wise,
    it is also one of the geographically largest. I would have expected that
    some of this new plan would have included keeping busses in the same
    geographic area, so that they can get from the end of their first route to
    the beginning of the second one easily, but at least some of the problems
    that have hit the local news involve buses that have a route on one end of
    the county that then have to make their way (presumably empty) across to
    the other end of the county to start the next run.

    Jefferson County is the home to Louisville, which is a town that has been
    ruled by a single party for several decades now and leans increasingly left.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Tue Aug 22 07:26:26 2023
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    Now that the schools are finally back up near pre-COVID capacity, they
    are in dire straits.

    And it's hitting other industries as well, making it even worse. Why take a job driving a bus when you can get a factory job that pays 3 times that?

    Or the ones who have been having intercourse with increasingly younger students.

    The whole "trans movement" is just to normalize pedophilia.

    Jefferson County is the home to Louisville, which is a town that has
    been ruled by a single party for several decades now and leans increasingly left.

    Ahhh... there's the reason. :)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Tue Aug 22 08:11:00 2023
    Or the ones who have been having intercourse with increasingly younger students.

    The whole "trans movement" is just to normalize pedophilia.

    I was actually thinking of the female teachers who are getting pregnant by junior high students, but there is that.

    Jefferson County is the home to Louisville, which is a town that has been ruled by a single party for several decades now and leans increasingly left.

    Ahhh... there's the reason. :)

    I think it is certainly one of the reasons. That district spends more
    money, per student, than any other in the state but their academic scores
    do not reflect this.

    I caught a brief blip on the news this morning. The district was touting
    their first full day back (all students) as a success. The last students
    were dropped off at 7:45pm vs. near 10pm the original first day. They did
    not say when those kids left school or what age they were.

    It makes me wonder when they expect kids to do their homework.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Wed Aug 23 07:20:10 2023
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    I think it is certainly one of the reasons. That district spends more money, per student, than any other in the state but their academic
    scores do not reflect this.

    Which is standard for areas that lean left.

    It makes me wonder when they expect kids to do their homework.

    I thought they got rid of homework. Something about White Supremacy or Patriarchy. :)



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Wed Aug 23 07:52:00 2023
    I thought they got rid of homework. Something about White Supremacy or Patriarchy. :)

    They may very well have for the general studies students.


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