Conspiracy Theorists
No. Propagandists.
You got that right mate!!!
IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
You got that right mate!!!
Crazy how you can keep this up, after so long time. Do you really not understand how stupid y'all look, when history looks into your actions
and reasonings at this time?
IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
John 18:5, about pronouns:
"Jesus saith unto them, I am he."
But who cares about Jesus in the White Supremacist Cult?
Blacks and Women, like e.g. the present VP, are not allowed into their Cult45.
People who think that democratic elections are all about picking the
right winner, are in dire need of re-education.
Thou shalt not be condemned to the gates of hellIB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
John 18:5, about pronouns:
"Jesus saith unto them, I am he."
But who cares about Jesus in the White Supremacist Cult?
Blacks and Women, like e.g. the present VP, are not allowed into their Cult45.
"Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character"
On 20 Jul 2023, Gregory Deyss said the following...
He would more then likely say something like the following."Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character"I wonder what MLK would think about todays Democratic party
He would more then likely say something like the following."Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of character"I wonder what MLK would think about todays Democratic party
What is being done is the wrong way to achieve the results and the
respect that is being sought. A man of peace usually are also very wise.
What is being pushed w/ the indoctrination of children, he would call
that the work of the Devil. I have no doubt, because it is.
Could explain why MLK's nice, Alveda King is a Republican and a Trumpupporte
.. Look what the dems did to RFK Jr. on the Hill yesterday... They will eath
r own if they have to!!!
I found the IRS testimony to be much more interesting.
IB Joe wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-
Could explain why MLK's nice, Alveda King is a Republican and a Trump supporter... Look what the dems did to RFK Jr. on the Hill yesterday... They will eat their own if they have to!!!
I found the IRS testimony to be much more interesting.
More than credible...
More than credible...
Indeed. They are both knowledgeable of their jobs, and at least one of them cannot really be discredited as a disgruntled Republican. They have stuck to their stories. Unlike Weiss, they've not wavered at all.
This is a battle between the Elitists who want to rule over everyone, and everyone else.
I am off to Costco to get my popcorn... Things are heating up!!! They impeached Trump on a perfect phone call... Could you imagine if they had a fraction of the dirt they have on the Biden Crime Syndicate!!!??
I am off to Costco to get my popcorn... Things are heating up!!! They impeached Trump on a perfect phone call... Could you imagine if they had fraction of the dirt they have on the Biden Crime Syndicate!!!??
I've seen the dirt but do you have any evidence to support the "Biden Crime Syndicate" claim?
No? I didn't think so.
I found the IRS testimony to be much more interesting.
I've seen the dirt but do you have any evidence to support the "Biden Crimey
icate" claim?
No? I didn't think so.
So you don't believe the dirt is an indication of potential criminal activity?
So you don't believe the dirt is an indication of potential criminal activity?
No, it's just dirt. None of it has any basis in fact.
No, it's just dirt. None of it has any basis in fact.
So you are discounting eyewitness accounts from two people, at least one of whom has little to gain, who could likely lose their jobs?
Interesting.
No, it's just dirt. None of it has any basis in fact.
So you are discounting eyewitness accounts from two people, at least one of whom has little to gain, who could likely lose their jobs?
Yes, it's just dirt.
Yes, it's just dirt.
What is your proof that it is just dirt?
Yes, it's just dirt.
What is your proof that it is just dirt?
I am not trying to prove dirt, you are.
I am not trying to prove dirt, you are.
Nope. You are the one saying it is dirt. I provided information.
Mike Powell wrote to ALAN IANSON <=-
Nope. You are the one saying it is dirt. I provided information. It
is up to you to refute it.
I am not trying to prove dirt, you are.
Nope. You are the one saying it is dirt. I provided information.
You provided dirt. Good luck with that.
You provided dirt. Good luck with that.
You are the one calling it dirt. It is up to you to prove it is dirt or
shut up.
Dirt is dirt. You know what dirt is?nythin
I'm not trying to prove anything at all and you are not going to prove
at all with this dirt.
You are the one calling it dirt.
It is up to you to prove it is dirt
or shut up.
Dirt is dirt. You know what dirt is?
I'm not trying to prove anything at all and you are not going to provenythin
at all with this dirt.
You are the one calling it dirt. It is up to you to prove it is dirt or
Biden being on the take for 50 Million from multiple foreign lands and then intentionally putting this money into hundreds of LLC's and into off shore accounts as well. You think that is normal behavior?It is up to you to prove it is dirt
There is no evidence of any crime.
Why do you bring up Hunter Biden? Is it a distraction from Donald Trump's AI> crimes and charges?The alleged crimes that Trump has been charged are based on a Kangaroo court. They exist for several reasons, but legitimacy has never been one of those reasons.
There is no evidence of any crime.Biden being on the take for 50 Million from multiple foreign lands and then intentionally putting this money into hundreds of LLC's and into off shore accounts as well. You think that is normal behavior?
Why do you bring up Hunter Biden? Is it a distraction from Donald Trump'sThe alleged crimes that Trump has been charged are based on a Kangaroo court.
crimes and charges?
They exist for several reasons, but legitimacy has never been one of those reasons.
1. These charges from the DOJ are premeditated to do several things.
Change the mind of Trump Supporters to grow distance w/ doubt in hopes that this will weaken Trump. We are not blind nor do we forget everything that the Democratic party has done in the past with a effort to damage Trump.
2. Ever notice when the heat is turned up on Biden, mysteriously it follows another charge within a few days thereafter against Trump.
This is a distraction. It is entirely dishonest as well.
3. This is a very much a political prosecution, going after the republican front-runner, they want to bog him down in court so that Trump will not be effective on the campaign trail, such a action is being noticed in plain sight and I will tell you right now that this is a miscalculation on their part. Trump support will only grow stronger, specially when the left pulls stunts like these.
4. I'm at the point and (I know that I'm not alone.)
"who cares what Trump did" w/ these alleged process crimes.
There is no case in GA, Washington, D.C. New York, or Southern Florida.
Impeachment of Joe Biden is looking more and more imminent.
The charges were brought for the US DOJ. Hardly a kangaroo court.You need to understand the motive behind these men of the DOJ; who they are to have a full understanding of why and what they are doing.
That doesn't aanswer why you (or someone else) keeps bringing up Hunter Biden.Hunter is a slime ball and all roads do lead to the Big Guy (Joe Biden) or maybe you didn't hear that hunter's sweetheart deal fell apart.
Any such lawyer that operates to protect Hunter Biden, and who goes along corrupt DOJ should be disbarred. It is these same lawyers who want to ban and disbar any lawyer if they get hired by Trump. This is the stuff that goes on within a banana republic, not the United States of America.They exist for several reasons, but legitimacy has never been one of thosThey are completely legitimate. Questions? Ask a lawyer.
reasons.
The mind of Trump voters is not a concern.Maybe not to you a Canadian, but none the less I do believe there is an effort to change the minds of voters, as they try to paint a negative view of Trump. We already know what Trump brought as a previous President and it was marvelous and from those years most of us can see what a complete train wreck the Biden Administration has been and we can also see where it is going in a downward spiral.
2. Ever notice when the heat is turned up on Biden, mysteriously it follo AI> > another charge within a few days thereafter against Trump.
This is a distraction. It is entirely dishonest as well.
I am surprised by the charges too. I never expected any of the
"documents" charges. It never crossed my mind. Trump could have avoided those simply by returning the documents when he was asked to return them.
I don't care much about the Stormy charges either. He could have avoided those charges too.Bragg is a complete imbecile his case is pointless, he has yet to explain how the misdemeanor gets boot strapped into a a felony, or what crime was committed to create the felony.
I have been expecting charges around Jan. 6 and the fake electors and the Georgia phone call. Those (all in fact) charges are well deserved and I hope he will be convicted for those actions.The Defense will have the transcript of what was said, by all parties including Trump. There was nothing wrong with that Georgia phone call.
3. This is a very much a political prosecution, going after the republica
front-runner, they want to bog him down in court so that Trump will not b
effective on the campaign trail, such a action is being noticed in plain sight and I will tell you right now that this is a miscalculation on thei
part. Trump support will only grow stronger, specially when the left pull
stunts like these.
The "documents" case, the Georgia cases, and the Jan. 6 has been going
on since shortly after the donald left office. He was not a candidate at the time. He was private citizen so it is clearly not political.
On 07-29-23 15:38, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: IRS Testimony <=-
It is up to you to prove it is dirt
There is no evidence of any crime.
Biden being on the take for 50 Million from multiple
foreign lands and then intentionally putting this money
into hundreds of LLC's and into off shore accounts as well.
You think that is normal behavior?
The alleged crimes that Trump has been charged are based on a Kangaroo court. They exist for several reasons, but legitimacy has never
been one of those reasons.
1. These charges from the DOJ are premeditated to do several things. Change the mind of Trump Supporters to grow distance w/
2. Ever notice when the heat is turned up on Biden,
mysteriously it follows another charge within a few days
thereafter against Trump.
This is a distraction. It is entirely dishonest as well.
4. I'm at the point and (I know that I'm not alone.)
"who cares what Trump did" w/ these alleged process crimes.
There is no case in GA, Washington, D.C. New York, or Southern
Florida.
Impeachment of Joe Biden is looking more and more imminent.
The charges were brought for the US DOJ. Hardly a kangaroo court.You need to understand the motive behind these men of the DOJ; who they are to have a full understanding of why and what they are doing.
I get it, you could care less, but when they fall, and make no mistake they will fall. You then might then be interested why they fell and more importantly how they could of let you down.
That doesn't aanswer why you (or someone else) keeps bringing up HunterHunter is a slime ball and all roads do lead to the Big Guy (Joe Biden) or maybe you didn't hear that hunter's sweetheart deal fell apart.
Biden.
They are completely legitimate. Questions? Ask a lawyer.Any such lawyer that operates to protect Hunter Biden, and who goes along corrupt DOJ should be disbarred. It is these same lawyers who want to ban and disbar any lawyer if they get hired by Trump. This is the stuff that goes on within a banana republic, not the United States of America.
The mind of Trump voters is not a concern.Maybe not to you a Canadian, but none the less I do believe there is an effort to change the minds of voters, as they try to paint a negative view
of Trump. We already know what Trump brought as a previous President and it was marvelous and from those years most of us can see what a complete train wreck the Biden Administration has been and we can also see where it is
going in a downward spiral.
2. Ever notice when the heat is turned up on Biden, mysteriously it follo
another charge within a few days thereafter against Trump.
This is a distraction. It is entirely dishonest as well.
I am surprised by the charges too. I never expected any of the
"documents" charges. It never crossed my mind. Trump could have avoided
those simply by returning the documents when he was asked to return them.
The Presidential Records Acts says he has 5 years to work with this office, it >has only been 3 and he was working with this office, then his place gets raide
by Garland's DOJ. Trouble is the Presidential Records act was never mentioned
as the act that was allegedly violated. The only thing that they could come up
with is the a so called violation of the Espionage Act.
The Act also outlawed false statements intended to interfere with military operations; attempts to incite insubordination or obstruct the recruitment of
troops; and false statements promoting the success of America's enemies. Those
charged with violations were subject to a $10,000 fine and twenty years imprisonment.
Explain to me or attempt to explain how this fits against Trump.
I don't care much about the Stormy charges either. He could have avoidedBragg is a complete imbecile his case is pointless, he has yet to explain how
those charges too.
the misdemeanor gets boot strapped into a a felony, or what crime was committe
to create the felony.
Nonetheless the statue of limitations has expired over a year ago from when we
all learned of Alvin Cheeseburger Bragg.
I have been expecting charges around Jan. 6 and the fake electors and theThe Defense will have the transcript of what was said, by all parties includin
Georgia phone call. Those (all in fact) charges are well deserved and I
hope he will be convicted for those actions.
Trump. There was nothing wrong with that Georgia phone call.
The "documents" case, the Georgia cases, and the Jan. 6 has been going
on since shortly after the donald left office. He was not a candidate at
the time. He was private citizen so it is clearly not political.
If Donald Trump wasn't running for election of the Presidency there wouldn't be any charges, they are doing all of this to stop him (or so they think) of Trump becoming the next President) haven't you been paying attention?
There is no case for January 6th either, again there is the matter of the transcript of every word spoken by Trump and I do believe he told people to
(paraphrasing) "to remain peaceful", he even inquired about having the nationa
guard at this event, a day or days before the event but the newscast that you watch or the newspapers you read didn't cover this at all, did it?
You are the one calling it dirt.
That's what it is.
It is up to you to prove it is dirt
There is no evidence of any crime.
or shut up.
You don't have to read or reply.
Why do you bring up Hunter Biden?
Is it a distraction from Donald Trump's crimes and charges?
It is up to you to prove it is dirt
There is no evidence of any crime.
1. These charges from the DOJ are premeditated to do several things. Change the mind of Trump Supporters to grow distance w/
Nope -- they are premeditated to show that no one is above the law.
Others who have done less than what Trump is charged for in Florida are
now serving multiple year sentences in Federal prisons.
Impeachment of Joe Biden is looking more and more imminent.
You'll need a crime of some sort.
Really? What foreign lands? What LLC's and off shore accounts? Or are you just repeating some hyperbole that you heard someone say without evidence?
First of all there is no Jury, in the majority of cases.The alleged crimes that Trump has been charged are based on a Kangaroo
court. They exist for several reasons, but legitimacy has never been one of those reasons.
It was a jury of people like you and me that made those charges. The crimes he has been charged with so far are quite serious.
1. These charges from the DOJ are premeditated to do several things. Change the mind of Trump Supporters to grow distance w/
Nope -- they are premeditated to show that no one is above the law.
Others who have done less than what Trump is charged for in Florida are now serving multiple year sentences in Federal prisons.
Violate the Trust of the American People? Seriously Dale.4. I'm at the point and (I know that I'm not alone.)
"who cares what Trump did" w/ these alleged process crimes.
Then you do not care about people who violate the trust of the American public.
You can play dumb and pretend all you want, but when the $#!t hit's the fan, remember you were the one, who had no clue.There is no case in GA, Washington, D.C. New York, or SouthernFlorida.
There are cases yet to come.
Impeachment of Joe Biden is looking more and more imminent.
No one has given any reasonable statement as to why.
The fact that didn't happen doesn't mean there is some kind of downward spiral.Border is a mess, inflation don't even get me started.
The charges are all around national security. Do you care about America and national security?
That is not all illegal. Is it? Nope...Trump. There was nothing wrong with that Georgia phone call.
That was not the "perfect phone call" as you call it.
"Guys, gimme a break. I need 11,000 votes"
Donald Trump did say early on Jan 6 to "peacefully and patrioticallyYou're taking out of context more then just a little bit.
march to the capitol". Near the end of his speach he also said "If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore".
The fact that didn't happen doesn't mean there is some kind of downwardBorder is a mess,
spiral.
inflation don't even get me started.
Does Biden's and the Democrats do they hate America, because it looks like it from where I sit.
What is the Biden doing about the division, because he did say that he would unite us, his policies are very Un-American.
Just look at his cabinet it will tell you all you need to know.
It speaks all for it self and it's not whatsoever in the positive.
The charges are all around national security. Do you care about America
and national security?
I think I just addressed that.
Let's clarify on the slim chance that I was unclear.
Trump allegedly having Federal documents does not harm national security one bit, and that's the truth.
The DOJ is doing all these things and applauding the actions of like minded individuals because they are terrified that they will lose power, these so called charges are nothing more then a end to what the Democrats hold most dear Power.
That is not all illegal. Is it? Nope...Trump. There was nothing wrong with that Georgia phone call.
That was not the "perfect phone call" as you call it.
"Guys, gimme a break. I need 11,000 votes"
Donald Trump did say early on Jan 6 to "peacefully and patriotically
march to the capitol". Near the end of his speach he also said "If you
don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore".
You're taking out of context more then just a little bit.
On 07-30-23 13:04, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: IRS Testimony <=-
Really? What foreign lands? What LLC's and off shore accounts? Or are you just repeating some hyperbole that you heard someone say without evidence?
GOP Rep. Nancy Mace claims Biden family received over $50M
from influence peddling scheme
Source: Fox Business
https://tinyurl.com/4rufejvc
New Evidence Resulting from the Oversight Committee's
Investigation into the Biden Family's Influence Peddling
and Business Schemes
Source: Congress of the United States, House of Representatives
Committee on Oversight and Accountability
https://tinyurl.com/2r6n5bn9
Chinese elite have paid some $31 million to Hunter and the Bidens
Source: NYPOST.com
https://tinyurl.com/ykn35yf3
It was a jury of people like you and me that made those charges. The crimes he has been charged with so far are quite serious.
First of all there is no Jury, in the majority of cases.
"We all innocent until proven guilty" this includes Donald
Trump too.
Nope -- they are premeditated to show that no one is above the law.
Others who have done less than what Trump is charged for in Florida are now serving multiple year sentences in Federal prisons.
Oh stop it with all of that, what your talking about is a
process crime at worst, the Presidential Records Act was
never mentioned, because it wouldn't fit. So they went The
Espionage Act.
The Espionage Act broadly sought to crack down on wartime activities considered dangerous or disloyal, including attempts to
acquire defense-related information with the intent to harm
the United States, or acquire code and signal books,
photographs, blueprints, and other such documents with the
intention of passing ...
These are the idiots you seem to be supporting, so tell me if
possible. How does the Espionage Act fit here and what is the twisted logic with its use.
4. I'm at the point and (I know that I'm not alone.)
"who cares what Trump did" w/ these alleged process crimes.
Then you do not care about people who violate the trust of the American public.
Violate the Trust of the American People? Seriously Dale.
Joe Biden and the Biden Family are corrupt, to which point
of the damage and just how far is the depth of the Biden
corruption. We will all know the answer to these questions
as more information is coming.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Alan Ianson <=-
Does Biden's and the Democrats do they hate America, because it looks
like it from where I sit.
Those things would probably fall under the Espionage act, but it is not limited to that. There are people who simply stockpiled classified
documents with no intent to disperse them to anyone else. They got
serious charges. They did *less* than what Trump has been accused of
doing.
You are not reading the entire act. What you describe is part of the
act, but there is more that does not involve transmitting to a foreign government.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
I wanted to reply to your message when I saw noticed it this morning, but there was no time to respond to this message with the type of response that itOn 07-30-23 13:04, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: IRS Testimony <=-
Really? What foreign lands? What LLC's and off shore accounts? Or a
you just repeating some hyperbole that you heard someone say without evidence?
GOP Rep. Nancy Mace claims Biden family received over $50M
from influence peddling scheme
Source: Fox Business
https://tinyurl.com/4rufejvc
Rep. Mace and Fox are far from being objective or believable.
Great because I am almost certain that the folks at CNN or MSNBC will cover it.New Evidence Resulting from the Oversight Committee's
Investigation into the Biden Family's Influence Peddling
and Business Schemes
Source: Congress of the United States, House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Accountability https://tinyurl.com/2r6n5bn9
I'll try to read this one.
So the NYPOST is going to put themselves out there in legal jeopardy to be sued, and all the while trying to exist in what is a tough to survive Joe Biden economy, this is unlikely to be the case.Chinese elite have paid some $31 million to Hunter and the Bidens Source: NYPOST.com
https://tinyurl.com/ykn35yf3
NYPOST is almost the same as Fox News in terms of its objectivity and believeability.
It was a jury of people like you and me that made those charges. The crimes he has been charged with so far are quite serious.Grand Jury made up from seething Democrats.
First of all there is no Jury, in the majority of cases.You are wrong. Each of the indictments has come from a grand jury who DS> voted to indict.
The Florida case is not impossible nor would it be hard to overcome."We all innocent until proven guilty" this includes Donald
Trump too.
That is true. He will get his day in court(s). The Florida charges are quite specific and hard for him to get out of. I'm not so sure about
the charges in the NY State court.
Others who have done less than what Trump is charged for in Florida ar DS> DS> now DS> GD> Oh stop it with all of that, what your talking about is a
process crime at worst, the Presidential Records Act was
never mentioned, because it wouldn't fit. So they went The
Espionage Act.
Being charged with having classifying documents and refusing to returnIt also has NOTHING to do with the Espionage Act.
them is *not* a process crime. Neither is showing classified documents
to people who have no need to know and no clearance.
Based on the text of what is listed above, it doesn't fit. Whatsoever.The Espionage Act broadly sought to crack down on wartime activities considered dangerous or disloyal, including attempts to
acquire defense-related information with the intent to harm
the United States, or acquire code and signal books,
photographs, blueprints, and other such documents with the
intention of passing ...
Those things would probably fall under the Espionage act, but it is not limited to that. There are people who simply stockpiled classified documents with no intent to disperse them to anyone else. They got serious charges. They did *less* than what Trump has been accused of doing.
These are the idiots you seem to be supporting, so tell me if possible. How does the Espionage Act fit here and what is the twisted
logic with its use.
You are not reading the entire act. What you describe is part of the
act, but there is more that does not involve transmitting to a foreign government.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
18 U.S. Code 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense
information
(d)Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the
United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated,
delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit
or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and
fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(e)Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument,
appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(f)Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control
of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument,
appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer Shall be
fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
It is the sections above which will apply in Trump's case.
It already has it was learned today that Joe Biden was on the speaker phone at least 20 times with Hunter among his business associates at his foreign business dealings, in order to maintain "The Brand" was Joe Biden, because without Joe Biden there was no brand and no influence.Joe Biden and the Biden Family are corrupt, to which point
of the damage and just how far is the depth of the Biden
corruption. We will all know the answer to these questions
as more information is coming.
Not based on any reliable information that has come out as of yet.
Source: Fox News
Title: Jesse Watters: Devon Archer just flipped on the Bidens, and it's bad The 50 Million Dollar Man / Joe Biden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVClVeLDDNk
Source: Fox News
Source: Fox News
Title: Jesse Watters: Devon Archer just flipped on the Bidens, and it's bad The 50 Million Dollar Man / Joe Biden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVClVeLDDNk
We just have to see what to see what happens.Source: Fox News
Title: Jesse Watters: Devon Archer just flipped on the Bidens, and it's b
The 50 Million Dollar Man / Joe Biden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVClVeLDDNk
That (as I suspected) turns out to be more fox news lies.
That (as I suspected) turns out to be more fox news lies.We just have to see what to see what happens.
Ya know if he (Biden) wasn't corrupt, he would not have to worry about the Republicans uncovering anything.
History will more than likley show that Joe Biden was the most corrupt person to hold the office of the Presidency in all of U.S. History.
Joe Biden lied many times, when he said he had nothing to do with Hunter's business dealings. This is a obvious lie due the sworn testimony from Devon Archer that Joe Biden was called and spoke on the phone at least 20 times, at these Business meetings with Hunter and his associates of foreign business partners at these meetings.That (as I suspected) turns out to be more fox news lies.We just have to see what to see what happens.
We do see what has happened.
Ya know if he (Biden) wasn't corrupt, he would not have to worry about th
Republicans uncovering anything.
What makes you think Joe Biden is worried?
It's amazing Trump ended his term as U.S. President in January of 2022, and still in August of 2023 he is still much in the news and on the minds rent free of libs everywhere. All of these phony indictments designed to slow him down, because the left is so terrified that Trump will win and if that happens it will be worse then death for these people on the left who craveHistory will more than likley show that Joe Biden was the most corrupt pe
to hold the office of the Presidency in all of U.S. History.
History will tell the Joe Biden story when the time comes.
The Donald Trump story will also be told although much of it is only unfolding now.
What makes you think Joe Biden is worried?Joe Biden lied many times,
when he said he had nothing to do with Hunter's business dealings. This is a obvious lie due the sworn testimony from Devon Archer that Joe Biden was called and spoke on the phone at least 20 times, at these Business meetings with Hunter and his associates of foreign business partners at these meetings.
Then the wording changed with what was released.
It went from he did not have any knowledge of TO he was not in business. Opps.
History will tell the Joe Biden story when the time comes.It's amazing Trump ended his term as U.S. President in January of 2022, and still in August of 2023 he is still much in the news and on the minds rent free of libs everywhere. All of these phony indictments designed to slow him down, because the left is so terrified that Trump will win and if that happens it will be worse then death for these people on the left who crave power and control.
The Donald Trump story will also be told although much of it is only
unfolding now.
Yes, Devon Archer said there were at east 20 phone calls and he also
said The Bidens were not talking business.
Did the story change?
Yes, Devon Archer said there were at east 20 phone calls and he also
said The Bidens were not talking business.
The Biden's were selling access... All Hunter had to do was show the people/clients that he could call his father at any time.
Did the story change?
The story changed more than Hunter changed prostitutes.
That's the right wing spin that has been going around for years but that is not what Devon Archer said.
The story changed more than Hunter changed prostitutes.
The spin has changed, the facts are unchanged.
The story changed more than Hunter changed prostitutes.
The spin has changed, the facts are unchanged.
Is it mushroom season still??
Why oh why, are we talking about Hunter Biden?
This "mushroom season" talk is yet more spin.
Why oh why, are we talking about Hunter Biden?
This "mushroom season" talk is yet more spin.
No... but it would explain some of your answers
That last bit about the Biden's not talking business is lefty-spin fromWhat makes you think Joe Biden is worried?Joe Biden lied many times,
That's what I keep hearing.
when he said he had nothing to do with Hunter's business dealings. This i
obvious lie due the sworn testimony from Devon Archer that Joe Biden was called and spoke on the phone at least 20 times, at these Business meetin
with Hunter and his associates of foreign business partners at these meetings.
Yes, Devon Archer said there were at east 20 phone calls and he also
said The Bidens were not talking business.
Those indictments are not phony.The Washington case is very weak have you read the indictment?
Yes, Devon Archer said there were at east 20 phone calls and he alsoThat last bit about the Biden's not talking business is lefty-spin from
said The Bidens were not talking business.
Rep. Daniel Goldman, he is trying to save face.
This spin is factually false for many reasons.
1. What did "no experience" Hunter bring to the table to offer, he knew nothing of gas or oil, he said as much on Good Morning America.
It is clear as to his of his involvement, access to his father Joe Biden, VP.
2 The DOJ via Joe Biden tried to intimidate Devon Archer with a mailings of a threating letter [this was almost right out of the movie Goodfellas] from the DOJ on a Saturday - this is noteworthy because it almost never happens.
3 Do you know why Devon Archer testified in the first place, because he felt like was thrown under the bus and felt betrayed by the Bidens.
The three facts show that the spin from Goldman is categorically false. Sounds like a Crock of Schiff.
Those indictments are not phony.The Washington case is very weak have you read the indictment?
This will fall apart when it hits at a high speed or any at any speed against the Freedom of Speech protections.
The indictment is about Trump's spoken words not about at what happened at the Capitol.
You've got that the wrong way around. The indictment is about Donald Trump's actions, not his speech.
You've got that the wrong way around. The indictment is about Donald
Trump's actions, not his speech.
Funny....
can you quote what part of the indictment that talks about action??
You've got that the wrong way around. The indictment is about Donald
Trump's actions, not his speech.
Funny....
What do you find funny?
The whole thing is about Donald Trumps actions.
There are only 4 charges, joe. Read the indictment over.
Nothing in the indictment had anything to do with his actions... They are
trying to indict him on his thoughts... You might want to read or re-read the
indictment... and when you do can you please tell me the part where it says Tramp did this or that...
The whole thing is about Donald Trumps actions.There is nothing that says Trump DID this or that... You don't listen to the news do you??
There are only 4 charges, joe. Read the indictment over.
What they are saying is that Trump knew he lost the election and rather than accepting the loss he concocted a story about election fraud... and knowing that he lost he lied and went with the election fraud story.
Trump has always believed his election was stolen, he doesn't believe Joe Bide
won and he's lying... BUT rather he believes it was stolen.
I saw Trumps lawyer talking on the news and Trump is actually pumped on this
indictment.... He'll now have the ability to show in court the evidence he has >about the election issues... and he can subpoena some of the players who rigge
the election.
Why oh why, are we talking about Hunter Biden?
This "mushroom season" talk is yet more spin.
No... but it would explain some of your answers
You don't care much for the truth.
But why are we talking about Hunter Biden?
But why are we talking about Hunter Biden?
Would you rather talk about Trump?
That is what Trump likes to talk about.
So why shouldn't we all?
After the election Donald Trump did go to court saying the election was stolen but he was not successful. The indictment also talks about that.Hillary Clinton and her supporters threw a fit and created hell on Earth when she lost the election, but what Hillary did next was to install a fake narrative of Russia Russia Russia, which hung over the nation.
The indictment alleges that Trump conspired with co-conspirators to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud and deceit to
impair, obstruct and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted
and certified by the federal government.
That is what Donald Trump did. The indictment goes on...
That is not news. That is from the indictment.
It's a free country Joe. You can believe anything at all. You can say anything at all.
No... but it would explain some of your answers
What does it matter? Lots of people get jobs in a field where they have no pre
ous experience.
The DOJ has not attempted to stop, or even slow down Donald Trump. Others charged with similar crimes are held in custody while awaiting trial.
That is not the case with Donald Trump. He is free to go where he wants, travel where he wants and speak to who he wants (aside from co-defendants). He is free to campaign at will.
This indictment is about Donald Trumps actions.
After the election Donald Trump did go to court saying the election was stolen but he was not successful. The indictment also talks about that.
The election is not going to be re-litigated now, Donald Trumps actions will be.
He doesn't have to be stoned to answer in that manner, it comes naturally to him. ;)
But why are we talking about Hunter Biden?
Would you rather talk about Trump?
Sure, if you want to talk about Trump go ahead.
That is what Trump likes to talk about.
So why shouldn't we all?
There is nothing to talk about. Hunter is a private citizen.
He is not president, has never been president, will never be president.
I don't think he has or will run for any office.
After the election Donald Trump did go to court saying the election was
stolen but he was not successful. The indictment also talks about that.
Hillary Clinton and her supporters threw a fit and created hell on Earth when she lost the election, but what Hillary did next was to install a fake
narrative of Russia Russia Russia, which hung over the nation.
"Not my president" was the chant from her followers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=LoMhBo8ATBM
Where was the DOJ to indite her w/ her actions, with the hell she has put
the country through.
The election is not going to be re-litigated now, Donald Trumps actions
will be.
Sorry.... It's never been in a court...
Cowards... judges always declined to
see the case because of one reason or an other... Though I was frustrated at the courts lack of enthusiasm.... I heard arguments that this is a political and not a legal issue...
I came across this video after I sent my last response...
https://rumble.com/v33zh3k-trump-will-now-have-subpoena-power-to-re-litigate-e
ery-case-from-the-2020-.html
This is the issue at hand... there needs to be more talk and less criminalization... If Biden is soooooooooooo confident his policies are the best... debate them.
Hillary Clinton acted honorably, and conceded to Trump. Not once
did she question the results, or challenge the results in court.
Where was the DOJ to indite her w/ her actions, with the hell she has pu the country through.Hillary was investigated.
There is nothing to talk about. Hunter is a private citizen.
So is Donald Trump.
He is not president, has never been president, will never be president.
You do not know that.
I don't think he has or will run for any office.
Why should he? He has open access to wherever he wants to go.
The West Wing, the Situation Room, the Rose Garden ...
The DOJ has not attempted to stop, or even slow down Donald Trump. Others
charged with similar crimes are held in custody while awaiting trial.
That is not the case with Donald Trump. He is free to go where he wants,
travel where he wants and speak to who he wants (aside from
co-defendants). He is free to campaign at will.
Who are the "others charged with similar crimes?"
How similar are their crimes?
The allegations break down like this... The government says that Trump KNEW he lost the election...
BUT chose to not believe it and chose to BELIEVE the election was stolen.
The conspiracy side of the charges stem from the legal advice he received about the electoral certification process...
During the 2020 election 5 states sent in a double set of electors... these states did so after being presented with voting irregularities...
As per the constitution the electors are sent in by the state legislators and if there is a discrepancy the state legislators were asked to clarify...
VP Judas Pence wasn't made to chose what ones were to be seated... Judas was asked to ask the state legislators what they wanted done...
That is not news. That is from the indictment.
I know it's not news... There are legal experts talking about this... I just think you lack the skill set... and the knowledge of the Constitution and as well rudimentary knowledge of US history to make opinions such as the ones you make.
It's a free country Joe. You can believe anything at all. You can say
anything at all.
And so can Trump.... and now for the first time in post constitutional US history one party is trying to criminalize Thoughts and beliefs.
Lot's of people do not get *high-level* jobs in fields where they have no previous experience. Only people with connections get to do that, which is where the problem lies.
The DOJ has not attempted to stop, or even slow down Donald Trump. Othe >> charged with similar crimes are held in custody while awaiting trial. >> That is not the case with Donald Trump. He is free to go where he wants >> travel where he wants and speak to who he wants (aside from
co-defendants). He is free to campaign at will.
Who are the "others charged with similar crimes?"
There have been many. Look it up.
How similar are their crimes?
The crimes involved classified documents. Small change compared to the Donald.
The crimes involved classified documents. Small change compared to the
Donald.
You're parroting, bigtime!
The election is not going to be re-litigated now, Donald Trumps actions >> will be.
Sorry.... It's never been in a court...
What!? ;)
Judges have seen the case over and over again. Trump has no evidence.
You are not going to get any truth from fox news.
Sorry.... It's never been in a court...
What!? ;)
Any of the attempts to get the election cases into court were thrown out based on standing.... NONE were ever tossed based on merit...
No evidence presented no jury made a decision... Never went to trial ever.
Here's a video ... if you go to minute 6:19 and his point point ends at ~7 minutes in. That 40 seconds explains the why some states send in 2 sets of electors and he also talks about how all the court cases were rejected based on standing... I love the look at the CNN hosts who had no clue...
https://youtu.be/fI0Gmkv4oGQ
Judges have seen the case over and over again. Trump has no evidence.
Judges have never seen any case... All were rejected based on standing... When Trump goes to trial for this case it'll be the first time a jury will see the evidence.
You are not going to get any truth from fox news.
I'm not going to get any truth from you...
Hunter Biden is not in government in any way, never has been (so far).Hunter was the bag man, and his Father was the closer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=LoMhBo8ATBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H916EVndP_A
Where was the DOJ to indite her w/ her actions, with the hellshe has put the country through.
Hillary was investigated.
That is not news. That is from the indictment.
I just think
you lack the skill set... and the knowledge of the Constitution and as well r udimentary knowledge of US history to make opinions such as the ones you make.
The DOJ has not attempted to stop, or even slow down Donald Trump. Others >AI> charged with similar crimes are held in custody while awaiting trial.
That is not the case with Donald Trump. He is free to go where he wants, >AI> travel where he wants and speak to who he wants (aside from
co-defendants). He is free to campaign at will.
Who are the "others charged with similar crimes?"
How similar are their crimes?
Where was the DOJ to indite her w/ her actions, with the hell she has put the country through.
Hillary was investigated.
Who are the "others charged with similar crimes?"
There have been many. Look it up.
The crimes involved classified documents. Small change compared to the >> Donald.
You're parroting, bigtime!
I'm not parroting anything/anyone.
I'm just pointing out that others have been jailed because of these
types of crimes. Many times.
Hunter Biden is not in government in any way, never has been AI>(so far).
Hunter was the bag man, and his Father was the closer.
The Brand does not exist without Joe Biden.
Trump did in fact go to court many times.
Trump went to court without evidence.
You think correctly. :)
Hunter Biden is not in government in any way, never has been (so far).Hunter was the bag man, and his Father was the closer.
The Brand does not exist without Joe Biden.
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How similar are their crimes?
I don't know who, if anyone, Al is thinking of. The case I have heard
others mention is the recent one involving the solider from the Pentagon.
He not only had documents he shouldn't, he tried peddling the information over the Internet, which was what made his charges worse and landed him in jail. The cases are not actually similar.
Where was the DOJ to indite her w/ her actions, with the hell she has put >> > the country through.
Hillary was investigated.
For other things, not for any actions that resulted from the 2016 election.
There have been many. Look it up.
It is up to you to put up or shut up. You claim there are many others. Please supply examples, including how the crimes are similar and
remembering that Trump is not currently charged with trying to sell any of the document contents.
I'm just pointing out that others have been jailed because of these
types of crimes. Many times.
If it happened so many times then why don't you have any examples?
It's ok Al.
I used to be a parrot also. Back around 2020 I thought Fox News was the coolest thing ever, and I blindly followed their narratives and I thought that everything they said was true, but then I realized that they were full of it and that I too was full of it because I was parroting their lies.
But the lesson I learned was: admitting to your mistakes is way to go. That philosophy might not sell cars, but it builds integrity.
No Judge or Jury has seen the evidence of election fraud... PERIOD...
ALL cases were dismissed based on standing.... ALL!!!
I sent you a video, though it was fox news... I told you where to go in that video to see a CNN segment where the person who was asked to join the segment SCHOOLED the CNN hosts on 2 issues... 1, the electoral college and how it's certified and 2, the fact that all the election cases were never heard because of standing... He did this all in ~40 seconds and he left the hosts speechless...
Trump went to court without evidence.
Trump has evidence and it'll now be heard in a court of law...
The crimes involved classified documents. Small change compared to the
Donald.
You're parroting, bigtime!
I'm not parroting anything/anyone.
I'm just pointing out that others have been jailed because of these
types of crimes. Many times.
Hunter Biden is not in government in any way, never has been (so far).Hunter was the bag man, and his Father was the closer.
The Brand does not exist without Joe Biden.
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Who are the "others charged with similar crimes?"
How similar are their crimes?
I don't know who, if anyone, Al is thinking of. The case I have heard
He not only had documents he shouldn't, he tried peddling the information over the Internet, which was what made his charges worse and landed him
in jail. The cases are not actually similar.
The crimes involved classified documents. Small change compared to t >> >> Donald.
You're parroting, bigtime!
I'm not parroting anything/anyone.
I'm just pointing out that others have been jailed because of these
types of crimes. Many times.
Here are a few I found simply with google.
Here are a few I found simply with google.
The first 2 plead guilty, that's why they went to jail. The 3rd one was found guilty, and that's why he went to jail. Plus he was found with grenades. How many grenades did they catch Trump with?
The first 2 plead guilty, that's why they went to jail. The 3rd one was guilty, and that's why he went to jail. Plus he was found with grenades. many grenades did they catch Trump with?
I'm not talking convictions, I am simply saying that many others have
been charged under the espionage act, grenades or not.
Where was the DOJ to indite her w/ her actions, with the hell she hasput
the country through.
Hillary was investigated.
For other things, not for any actions that resulted from the 2016 election.
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Wither you like it or not Donald Trump will be permitted to provide evidence that disproves the allegations that are brought against him.No Judge or Jury has seen the evidence of election fraud... PERIOD...
ALL cases were dismissed based on standing.... ALL!!!
Not all. I think the Texas case (the Texas GOP, not Trump) was dismissed based on standing, and even Trumps cases could have been thrown out for lack of standing but many cases were dismissed because of a lack of evidence.
I sent you a video, though it was fox news... I told you where to go in t
video to see a CNN segment where the person who was asked to join the seg
SCHOOLED the CNN hosts on 2 issues... 1, the electoral college and how i
certified and 2, the fact that all the election cases were never heard because of standing... He did this all in ~40 seconds and he left the hos
speechless...
The video? How about some facts rather than stories?
Trump went to court without evidence.
Trump has evidence and it'll now be heard in a court of law...
I don't think so. Donald Trump is the one on trial, not the election.
I'm not talking convictions, I am simply saying that many others have
been charged under the espionage act, grenades or not.
You said "small change compared to Trump," but sounds like some large coins to me.
Wither you like it or not Donald Trump will be permitted to provide evidence that disproves the allegations that are brought against him.
All 3 indictments have issues with weakness,
and they show the true nature of a persecution of a political opponent.
There have been many. Look it up.
It is up to you to put up or shut up. You claim there are many others.
Please supply examples, including how the crimes are similar and
remembering that Trump is not currently charged with trying to sell any of
the document contents.
Indeed there are many others who have been charged under the espionage act.
Do you really need me to look that up for you?
Hunter Biden is not in government in any way, never has been (so far).Hunter was the bag man, and his Father was the closer.
The Brand does not exist without Joe Biden.
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I don't see evidence of a crime.
What is the crime?
I don't think so. Donald Trump is the one on trial, not the election.
Wither you like it or not Donald Trump will be permitted to provide evidence
that disproves the allegations that are brought against him.
All 3 indictments have issues with weakness, and they show the true nature of a persecution of a political opponent.
Trump is facing 4 indictments, and could be sentenced to 5, 10,Jack Smith has lost more cases than he has won, he is a loser, like you.
or 20 years. Quite a stretch for man his age. The charges are real,
and he is facing serious time in prison. Jack Smith is not kidding,
and nobody else is, either.
It's time you face the music, Greg.You going to be very disappointed, when things don't go you way.
Trump's goose is cooked. He is going to prison.Not only is he NOT going to Jail, but Trump has lived for 77 years and all of this time he has not faced one indictment to the kind he is facing now.
And then the American people (and the world) will forget about him.or there could be another civil war, and I will playing for the Red team.
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You going to be very disappointed, when things don't go you way.
Nothing new for you though, right?
I think today is the last day I respond to Mr. Man... He is willfully ignorant.
It's okay to have an opinion, or opine, but MY GOD... completely ignore US hist
ory, the constitution and US law is an other.
I don't know who, if anyone, Al is thinking of. The case I have heard others mention is the recent one involving the solider from the Pentagon.
That is the case I am thinking of. I forget the young mans's name.
He not only had documents he shouldn't, he tried peddling the information over the Internet, which was what made his charges worse and landed him in jail. The cases are not actually similar.
I thought he was simply showing off the document. Sound familiar?
There have been many. Look it up.
It is up to you to put up or shut up. You claim there are many others. Please supply examples, including how the crimes are similar and remembering that Trump is not currently charged with trying to sell any of the document contents.
Indeed there are many others who have been charged under the espionage act.
Do you really need me to look that up for you?
Robert Birchum, 2023
Birchum, who was an Air Force lieutenant colonel with a decorated 29-year mili
ry career, pleaded guilty in February to one count of violating the willful re
ntion of national defense information provision after investigators discovered
uring the first month of the Trump presidency in 2017 that Birchum had stored re than 300 classified documents or files in his home, a storage pod on his pr
erty and his officer.s quarters overseas. Birchum was not charged with spying
giving the documents to anyone, and he cooperated with investigators and conv
ed remorse . but a Trump-appointed judge sentenced him this month to 3 years i
prison.
Kendra Kingsbury, 2022
Kingsbury, who was an analyst for the FBI, pleaded guilty in 2022 to two count
of violating the willful retention of national defense information provision a
er she was indicted by a federal grand jury in 2021 for possessing classified cuments in her home. The Justice Department said Kingsbury took home approxima
ly 386 classified documents from work over more than 12 years, including secre
information related to counterterrorism intelligence sources and methods, open
nvestigations, the FBI.s technical capabilities, intelligence gaps, and al Qae
in Africa. Kingsbury, who was not charged with spying or giving documents to yone, is scheduled to be sentenced next week.
Jeremy Brown, 2022
Brown, a retired Army Special Forces sergeant who later became involved with f
-right group the Oath Keepers and ran for the Florida state House as a Republi
n, was convicted by a federal jury in 2022 for both possession of unregistered
renades and guns and for violating the willful retention of national defense i
ormation provision. When the FBI searched Brown.s home in 2021 upon arresting m over his alleged involvement in the pro-Trump riot at the US Capitol on Janu
y 6, 2021, they found the unlawful weapons and a classified .Trip Report. he h
written in 2011 about the search in Afghanistan for missing soldier Bowe Berg
hl. Brown was sentenced in April to 7 years and 3 months in prison, though not
olely over the classified document.
The crimes involved classified documents. Small change compared to >> >> Donald.
You're parroting, bigtime!
I'm not parroting anything/anyone.
I'm just pointing out that others have been jailed because of these >> types of crimes. Many times.
Here are a few I found simply with google.
The first 2 plead guilty, that's why they went to jail. The 3rd one was found ilty, and that's why he went to jail. Plus he was found with grenades. How man
grenades did they catch Trump with?
The first 2 plead guilty, that's why they went to jail. The 3rd one was foun
guilty, and that's why he went to jail. Plus he was found with grenades. How
many grenades did they catch Trump with?
I'm not talking convictions, I am simply saying that many others have been cha
ed under the espionage act, grenades or not.
grenades did they catch Trump with?
Remember that Al's original claim was that several people have done the same thing that Trump is accused of AND were kept in jail awaiting trial while Trump is out campaigning as a free man.
Trump is facing 4 indictments, and could be sentenced to 5, 10,
or 20 years. Quite a stretch for man his age. The charges are real,
and he is facing serious time in prison. Jack Smith is not kidding,
and nobody else is, either.
Jack Smith has lost more cases than he has won, he is a loser, like you.
It's time you face the music, Greg.
You going to be very disappointed, when things don't go you way.
Nothing new for you though, right?
Trump's goose is cooked. He is going to prison.
Not only is he NOT going to Jail, but Trump has lived for 77 years and all of this time he has not faced one indictment to the kind he is facing now.
Tell me again, how this is a not a political circus.
And then the American people (and the world) will forget about LL>him.
or there could be another civil war, and I will playing for the Red team.
You really want a re-match?
How about we just duke it out here with words.
You're a lightweight & you don't present any challenge in the slightest of measure.
I thought he was simply showing off the document. Sound familiar?
Show me where Trump was trying to sell the documents over the Internet for money. Otherwise, no, it does not sound at all familiar.
Indeed there are many others who have been charged under the espionage act.
Do you really need me to look that up for you?
The Espionage Act is very broad.
A person can be charged or accused of violating it for a wide range of offenses, some *much* more serious (and completely different) than others.
What you need to show us are the exact cases where someone got charged, and was kept in prison awaiting trial, for violating it in the manner that Trump is accused of. THAT was your claim.
So far, all you have given us is "I don't remember his name."
I am not going to do research to prove *your* point.
That is up to you to do. If there are so many examples of persons who have recently done exactly what Trump is accused of, and had to stay in prison awaiting trial, you should have no problem producing at least one example.
Your claim was that people were kept in prison awaiting trial for retention of documents while Trump is free to campaign.
Trump was not in possession of any unregistered weapons.
People who are in trouble on weapons charges are considred to pose a different risk and are often kept in jail awaiting trial (although you
didn't prove that Brown was).
That part sounds more familiar to what Hunter Biden did.
He is not being kept in jail for his weapons charge while the courts decide whether or not to accept his plea deal.
Please provide examples of persons who were kept in jail, awaiting trial,
for the willful retention of documents, which is what Trump is accused of
and which is what you claimed has happened to others.
Which was NOT your original point.
Please provide evidence of persons who retained documents, but who didn't
try to sell them or post them on the Internet, who were kept in jail
awaiting trial. That was your original point.
Remember that Al's original claim was that several people have done the
same thing that Trump is accused of AND were kept in jail awaiting trial
while Trump is out campaigning as a free man.
He's either on a mission to be correct about something political or he's on a mission to defend all things leftist, but he can't have it both ways.
It makes me wonder if there's money in it? Can I get rich by defending all things leftist?
Indeed there are many others who have been charged under the espionage act. >> Do you really need me to look that up for you?The Espionage Act is very broad. A person can be charged or accused of violating it for a wide range of offenses, some *much* more serious (and completely different) than others.
What you need to show us are the exact cases where someone got charged, and was kept in prison awaiting trial, for violating it in the manner that Trump is accused of. THAT was your claim.
He's either on a mission to be correct about something political or he's mission to defend all things leftist, but he can't have it both ways.
Mike is lying to you. My point was that many have been charged under the espionage act.
He's either on a mission to be correct about something political or he's >> > mission to defend all things leftist, but he can't have it both ways.
Mike is lying to you. My point was that many have been charged under the
espionage act.
You said something like "others have been held in jail for similar charges" which is sorta true, but they were suspects who had plead guilty and 1 was found guilty.
Don't let this dose of reallity blind you: There are people behind bars for illegal gun possession, but not Hunter. (Special treatment is for Democrats and their family members.)
Hunter never used the gun in a crime. He didn't threaten anyone with a gun.
What shall we convict hunter of today?There should be no more sweetheart deals for Hunter specially surrounding or offering immunity for crimes that are discovered in the future.
Guns are not uncommon in the USA.You should know what is also uncommon?
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illegal gun possession, but not Hunter. (Special treatment is for AI> AI> > > Democr
and their family members.)
Hunter never used the gun in a crime. He didn't threaten anyone with a gun.
What shall we convict hunter of today?
Guns are not uncommon in the USA.
Indeed there are many others who have been charged under the espionage act. >> Do you really need me to look that up for you?The Espionage Act is very broad. A person can be charged or accused of violating it for a wide range of offenses, some *much* more serious (and completely different) than others.
What you need to show us are the exact cases where someone got charged, and was kept in prison awaiting trial, for violating it in the manner that Trump is accused of. THAT was your claim.
Here is an update on the Jack Teixeira case.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/jack-teixeira-guardsman-accused-of-leaking -to p-secret-information-due-in-court-in-boston/ar-AA1egTsz
Here's a tiny url in case the above breaks for you.
https://tinyurl.com/2vvnnenv
Remember that Al's original claim was that several people have done the same thing that Trump is accused of AND were kept in jail awaiting trial while Trump is out campaigning as a free man.
He's either on a mission to be correct about something political or he's on a ssion to defend all things leftist, but he can't have it both ways.
I thought he was simply showing off the document. Sound familiar?
Show me where Trump was trying to sell the documents over the Internet for money. Otherwise, no, it does not sound at all familiar.
It's familiar to me. He was showing off the documents to folks without access
the documents. That's what Trump did (among other things).
Indeed there are many others who have been charged under the espionage act.
Do you really need me to look that up for you?
The Espionage Act is very broad.
It was said that the espionage act hadn't been used before. It was some kind o
trap laid for Mr. Trump. The simple point I am making is that that is not so.
What you need to show us are the exact cases where someone got charged, and was kept in prison awaiting trial, for violating it in the manner that Trump
is accused of. THAT was your claim.
I gave several examples yesterday.
So far, all you have given us is "I don't remember his name."
I don't, and I don't care! If you find it interesting then look it up.
I am not going to do research to prove *your* point.
No one expects you to prove my point. You haven't even proved your points.
That is up to you to do. If there are so many examples of persons who have recently done exactly what Trump is accused of, and had to stay in prison awaiting trial, you should have no problem producing at least one example.
The examples provided prove the point I was making.
If you want to "prove" something else then away you go.
Trump was not in possession of any unregistered weapons.
Nobody made that claim.
People who are in trouble on weapons charges are considred to pose a different risk and are often kept in jail awaiting trial (although you didn't prove that Brown was).
Is that the guys name? There was no talk of weapons in the story I posted. Onl
that he shared classified documents.
Jeremy Brown, 2022
Brown, a retired Army Special Forces sergeant who later became involved with far-right group the Oath Keepers and ran for the Florida state House as a Republican, was convicted by a federal jury in 2022 for both possession of unregistered grenades and guns
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That part sounds more familiar to what Hunter Biden did.
He is not being kept in jail for his weapons charge while the courts decide whether or not to accept his plea deal.
Of course not. Hunter Biden is not a threat to anyone.
Please provide examples of persons who were kept in jail, awaiting trial, for the willful retention of documents, which is what Trump is accused of and which is what you claimed has happened to others.
I provided three names yesterday.
Tell you what I am going to do. When I get some time I'll look it up and see i
I can find the story agian, and share it agian, just for you.
Which was NOT your original point.
Please provide evidence of persons who retained documents, but who didn't try to sell them or post them on the Internet, who were kept in jail awaiting trial. That was your original point.
My original point was that several others have been charged under the espionag
act. I have told you this. Over and over again.
Teacher: "That is the strongest debate stance I have ever witnessed! A+!"
Oh how far the schools have fallen.
If I had done that in my high school debate class, my teacher would have failed
me.
He's either on a mission to be correct about something political or he's on mission to defend all things leftist, but he can't have it both ways.
Mike is lying to you. My point was that many have been charged under the espio
ge act.
Mike is lying to you. My point was that many have been charged under the espionage act.
You said something like "others have been held in jail for similar charges" wh
h is sorta true, but they were suspects who had plead guilty and 1 was found g
lty.
Hunter never used the gun in a crime. He didn't threaten anyone with a
gun.
Hunter Biden was charged with possession of a firearm while an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance, which carries a potential prison term of up to 10 years.
What shall we convict hunter of today?There should be no more sweetheart deals for Hunter specially surrounding or offering immunity for crimes that are discovered in the future.
What a bonehead. The media tells us this was a Trump Judge, this should be the commonsense of ANY Judge. No one should provide a get out of Jail Free card.
Guns are not uncommon in the USA.You should know what is also uncommon?
Lying on the application to acquire a firearm, because he thought he is better then anyone else or that the laws are for other people.
There are lots of local news stories of people going to jail for illegal gun possession. Felons can't have them, if the guns are unregistered then nobody can have them, if they are a banned model, nobody can have them. Illegal gun possession is a real thing. It don't matter if they used it to threaten somebody or not. All that matters, is whether or not they have elite status.
Do you have elite status? Or do you aspire to gain that status someday?
So the judge concluded that this person might pose a threat to the community and may flee if released. Trump, by your own admission is campaigning to be President and, since he cannot be President if he flees the country, is not a flight risk. You have also shown no proof that he himself is any more of a threat to the community whether free or behind bars.
So, again, surprise you have not proven anything.
Show me where Trump was trying to sell the documents over the Internet for money, or where he leaked them to the Internet at all. Otherwise, no, they are quite different.
Someone here may have said that, but that was not the point you and I were
on about. You said specifically that other persons had done "similar"
things to what Trump did and were kept in jail awaiting trial while Trump
is "still a free man, free to campaign" for office.
That is what I challenged you on. So far, you have not proven that point
at all.
Trump wasn't trying to sell documents, and Trump was not also in posession
of any unregistered or non-civilian weapons, so using cases where either is true is not a "similar" comparision.
What you need to show us are the exact cases where someone got charged, and >>> was kept in prison awaiting trial, for violating it in the manner that
Trump is accused of. THAT was your claim.
I gave several examples yesterday.
No you did not.
You are the one that claims they exist. Produce proof or shut up.
I am not going to do research to prove *your* point.
No one expects you to prove my point. You haven't even proved your points.
It was your claim, that someone did what Trump did and had to wait in
prison for their trial. Produce proof or shut up.
That is up to you to do. If there are so many examples of persons who have >> > recently done exactly what Trump is accused of, and had to stay in prison >> > awaiting trial, you should have no problem producing at least one example.
The examples provided prove the point I was making.
They most certainly did not. You did not prove that a single one of them, that didn't have several weapons charges, remained in jail awaiting trial.
If you want to "prove" something else then away you go.
I want you to prove your original point or quit claiming it. But you
cannot, which is no surprise.
Of course not. Hunter Biden is not a threat to anyone.
But you claimed the guy above, who had unregistered weapons, was kept in jail. That case is more similar to Hunter's than Trump's.
You do that. If you cannot prove your claim that people who were charged
of similar crimes were kept in jail awaiting trial, you have no point to make.
NO IT WAS NOT. You made several references to Trump being free while
others, who did similar things, were kept in jail.
We would not be having this disussion if that was your only claim because I KNOW that people have been charged, and found guilty, under said act for a very broad set of reasons.
Mike is lying to you. My point was that many have been charged under the
espionage act.
Nope. It was that people were charged and kept in jail for doing similar things to what Trump did.
However, your "similar things" has become quite broad as you've changed your argument to include persons with weapons charges, persons who have sold or shared stolen info on the Internet, and persons who may have violated some completely different aspect of the Espionage Act.
The only proof of someone whose been kept in jail awaiting trial was
someone who shared the info on the Internet (which Trump didn't do) and who is considered a flight risk (which Trump has not been considered). Those dissimilarities rule that out as proof of his point.
Hunter never used the gun in a crime. He didn't threaten anyone with a >> gun.
Hunter Biden was charged with possession of a firearm while an unlawful u
of or addicted to any controlled substance, which carries a potential pri
term of up to 10 years.
Sure, and Hunter is in court currently. The outcome will be known soon enough.
What shall we convict hunter of today?There should be no more sweetheart deals for Hunter specially surrounding
offering immunity for crimes that are discovered in the future.
What a bonehead. The media tells us this was a Trump Judge, this should b
the commonsense of ANY Judge. No one should provide a get out of Jail Fre
card.
Hunter never got a "sweetheart" deal or a get out of jail free card.
Hunter never got a "sweetheart" deal or a get out of jail free card.
Now you should really know better then to question me.
Specially when you know that I will provide FACTS to the contrary.
Here ya go the following proves that you were 100% incorrect with your statement.
Source: https://www.newsweek.com (it's pretty bad if it's Newsweek.
Title: Hunter Biden's 'Sweetheart' Plea Deal Falls Apart During Hearing Website: https://tinyurl.com/2bka2ewj
But both sides said the bargain was off the table after U.S. District Judge Maryellen Noreika, who is presiding over the case in Wilmington, Delaware, questioned if the deal offered the president's son blanket immunity from prosecution in his plea dealings or only for his tax offenses. After the top prosecutor said it would not offer sweeping immunity, Biden's attorney declared the agreement "null and void."
h is sorta true, but they were suspects who had plead guilty and 1 was MP> > f
g
lty.
Correct. Part of his argument was that Trump should not be a free man or free to campaign while only charged but not yet found guilty.
possession is a real thing. It don't matter if they used it to threaten somebody or not. All that matters, is whether or not they have elite AI> > sta
Indeed the number of guns, legal and illegal in the USA is astounding.
Do you have elite status? Or do you aspire to gain that status someday?
I am hardly elite. I've been a working stiff my whole life living
paycheck to paycheck.
I dunno about that. Trump did say when he was running in 2020 that he "might have to leave the country" if he lost the election.
Maybe he was just talking out of his ass, I dunno.
Indeed the number of guns, legal and illegal in the USA is astounding.
It's a problem. Innocent people are getting killed by bullets too often. But we'll just ignore that issue if that's what it takes to protect good ol' Hunter.
I am hardly elite. I've been a working stiff my whole life living
paycheck to paycheck.
Members of the Canadian Liberal Party aren't as oppressive as America's Democrat Party is. They build security fences around their vacation homes and workplaces while forcing us to contend with an influx of millions of illegal immigrants. It's not fair, and they don't deserve all the praise you give them.
Maybe he was just talking out of his ass, I dunno.
I'm glad he didn't leave the country because I need him to take us back to 2017 when America was greater than ever before.
Sweeping immunity for past and future offenses not yet discovered?Source: https://www.newsweek.com (it's pretty bad if it's Newsweek. Title: Hunter Biden's 'Sweetheart' Plea Deal Falls Apart During Hearing Website: https://tinyurl.com/2bka2ewj
It's true that Hunter's plea deal fell apart. Nevertheless, it was not a "sweetheart" deal.
But both sides said the bargain was off the table after U.S. District Jud
Maryellen Noreika, who is presiding over the case in Wilmington, Delaware
questioned if the deal offered the president's son blanket immunity from prosecution in his plea dealings or only for his tax offenses. After the
prosecutor said it would not offer sweeping immunity, Biden's attorney declared the agreement "null and void."
Just how this will proceed I don't know, and I don't care.You have been carrying in here for quite some time, dodging, weaving and ducking that is all over now. I think you care a great deal because you were the one who said that Hunter did not receive a sweetheart deal.
Yeah you would like that wouldn't you?Maybe he was just talking out of his ass, I dunno.
I'm glad he didn't leave the country because I need him to take us back t
2017 when America was greater than ever before.
I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.
I'm glad he didn't leave the country because I need him to take us back 2017 when America was greater than ever before.
I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.
What do you think the outcome would be for the rest of us with those same kind offensives. hmmm? Yeah? I thought so....
Just how this will proceed I don't know, and I don't care.You have been carrying in here for quite some time, dodging, weaving and ducking that is all over now. I think you care a great deal because you were the one who said that Hunter did not receive a sweetheart deal.
It is obvious to anyone with a scintilla of a brain. Don't care, indeed. Bottom-line his lawyers got greedy. Which is why he walked out court with his proverbial tail tucked between his legs with no deal.
Sweeping Immunity? Now theres a subject to discuss around the water cooler. He is guilty as sin and so is his geriatric father as well.
If your going to peddle any more garage in here, remember I will be watching. I will counter you move for move. Choose wisely.
I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.Yeah you would like that wouldn't you?
Guess what? WE are not going anywhere I and others will follow Donald Trump all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington D.C. TRUMP 2024!
I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.
Nobody else can be trusted. Nobody else has the integrity.
You need to be reminded of Trump's accomplishments, then you can tell me about Joe Biden and the positive things that he has done.I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.
Nobody else can be trusted. Nobody else has the integrity.
Donald Trump is not a man of integrity.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Alan Ianson <=-
Now you should really know better then to question me.
Specially when you know that I will provide FACTS to the contrary.
Hunter never got a "sweetheart" deal or a get out of jail free card.
Now you should really know better then to question me.
Specially when you know that I will provide FACTS to the contrary.
Here ya go the following proves that you were 100% incorrect with your stateme
.
Source: https://www.newsweek.com (it's pretty bad if it's Newsweek.
Title: Hunter Biden's 'Sweetheart' Plea Deal Falls Apart During Hearing Website: https://tinyurl.com/2bka2ewj
What do you think the outcome would be for the rest of us with those same kind offensives. hmmm? Yeah? I thought so....
The same as Hunter if your crime was the same as Hunter.
I don't care much about Hunter. It's a right wing fantasy.
Sweeping Immunity? Now theres a subject to discuss around the water cooler. He is guilty as sin and so is his geriatric father as well.
Sweeping immunity? I haven't heard that one before.
If your going to peddle any more garbage in here, remember I will be watching. >I will counter you move for move. Choose wisely.
I'm glad he didn't leave the country because I need him to take us back to 2017 when America was greater than ever before.
I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.
Nobody else can be trusted. Nobody else has the integrity.
Donald Trump is not a man of integrity.
You need to be reminded of Trump's accomplishments, then you can tell me about Joe Biden and the positive things that he has done.
You still want to compare the economy Trump vs Biden?
Sweeping immunity? I haven't heard that one before.
It was right there in the Newsweek article that Gregory quoted. It is the reason the judge bounced the deal.
Maybe he was just talking out of his ass, I dunno.
I'm glad he didn't leave the country because I need him to take us back to
2017 when America was greater than ever before.
I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.
HearingSource: https://www.newsweek.com (it's pretty bad if it's Newsweek.
Title: Hunter Biden's 'Sweetheart' Plea Deal Falls Apart During
Website: https://tinyurl.com/2bka2ewj
It's true that Hunter's plea deal fell apart. Nevertheless, it wasnot a
"sweetheart" deal.
Sweeping immunity for past and future offenses not yet discovered?
That's sickening sweet; like the kind of sweet that is found on a birthday cake from the supermarket.
What do you think the outcome would be for the rest of us with those same kind offensives. hmmm? Yeah? I thought so....
District JudBut both sides said the bargain was off the table after U.S.
DelawareMaryellen Noreika, who is presiding over the case in Wilmington,
fromquestioned if the deal offered the president's son blanket immunity
After theprosecution in his plea dealings or only for his tax offenses.
attorneyprosecutor said it would not offer sweeping immunity, Biden's
declared the agreement "null and void."
Just how this will proceed I don't know, and I don't care.
You have been carrying in here for quite some time, dodging, weaving and ducking that is all over now. I think you care a great deal because you were the one who said that Hunter did not receive a sweetheart deal.
It is obvious to anyone with a scintilla of a brain. Don't care, indeed. Bottom-line his lawyers got greedy. Which is why he walked out court with his proverbial tail tucked between his legs with no deal.
Sweeping Immunity?
Now theres a subject to discuss around the water cooler.
He is guilty as sin and so is his geriatric father as well.
If your going to peddle any more garage in here, remember I will be watching. I will counter you move for move. Choose wisely.
Maybe he was just talking out of his ass, I dunno.
back tI'm glad he didn't leave the country because I need him to take us
2017 when America was greater than ever before.
I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.
Yeah you would like that wouldn't you?
Guess what? WE are not going anywhere I and others will follow Donald Trump
all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington D.C. TRUMP 2024!
backI'm glad he didn't leave the country because I need him to take us
2017 when America was greater than ever before.
I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.
Nobody else can be trusted. Nobody else has the integrity.
I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.
Nobody else can be trusted. Nobody else has the integrity.
Donald Trump is not a man of integrity.
You need to be reminded of Trump's accomplishments,
then you can tell me about Joe Biden and the positive things that he has done.
You still want to compare the economy Trump vs Biden?
Glad you askedYou need to be reminded of Trump's accomplishments, then you can tell me about Joe Biden and the positive things that he has done.
What accomplishments?
Donald Trump divided America. That continues today.No Bonehead That would be the democrats of 2023, the last time Democrats came together and remotely appreciated America, you would have to back all to the 70's
This is coming to a message really soon, I think I proved my point enough in this message.You still want to compare the economy Trump vs Biden?
I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.
Nobody else can be trusted. Nobody else has the integrity.
That is exactly what Osama bin Laden told his followers!
And look at what they did on 9/11!
What a job!
This is not the leader of a political party you are talking about.
Far from it. This is the leader of a domestic terror cult. And you
know as well as everybody else that such a leader is never wrong.
Nor will such a leader ever admit he/she is wrong.
Hello Greg,
Maybe he was just talking out of his ass, I dunno.
back tI'm glad he didn't leave the country because I need him to take us
2017 when America was greater than ever before.
I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.
Yeah you would like that wouldn't you?
Guess what? WE are not going anywhere I and others will follow Donald
Trump
all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington D.C. TRUMP 202
The stuff that dreams are made of ...
Of course, Inauguration Day for Joe Biden's second term will not
be until January 20, 2025. But still, all are welcome to party early.
What accomplishments?Glad you asked
prepare yourself.
You might want to get something to drink.
Bye Felicia.What accomplishments?Glad you asked
prepare yourself.
I'm prepared.
You might want to get something to drink.
Good idea. Bye!
Gregory Deyss wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-
If by some very slim chance Joe Biden has a second Inauguration Day.
It will look and have more in common w/ Weekend at Bernies than
anything else.
I suggest ya'll get behind someone other than Donald Trump.
Nobody else can be trusted. Nobody else has the integrity.
That is exactly what Osama bin Laden told his followers!
And look at what they did on 9/11!
What a job!
The media did a good job at making people believe that bin Laden was killed.
The 9/11 survivors have a pretty neat TV story to thank for all that justice
that was served.
This is not the leader of a political party you are talking about.
Far from it. This is the leader of a domestic terror cult. And you
know as well as everybody else that such a leader is never wrong.
Nor will such a leader ever admit he/she is wrong.
Yep! Biden calls us "White supremacists," but really we're just "White people" aka "the biggest threat to homeland security."
The stuff that dreams are made of ...
Of course, Inauguration Day for Joe Biden's second term will not
be until January 20, 2025. But still, all are welcome to party early.
If by some very slim chance Joe Biden has a second Inauguration Day.
It will look and have more in common w/ Weekend at Bernies than anything else.
That same individual could be elected as president to serve anotherWhat are the qualifications for a corpse, asking for a friend.
term, whether consecutively or not. That means one inauguration for
that term, without any need for any second or third or fourth or any
other subsequent inauguration.
Yep! Biden calls us "White supremacists," but really we're just LL> AT> "Whit
people" aka "the biggest threat to homeland security."
Yeah! Whoopi Goldberg for President!
With Mayor Ted Danson as Vice President!
Bye Felicia.You might want to get something to drink.
Good idea. Bye!
Bertha? Is she the Fat Lady, that will be singing at the end of the Biden Administration? I think she may in route to the Party, with the way thingsBye Felicia.You might want to get something to drink.
Good idea. Bye!
Sorry, Bertha. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. ;)
I think she may in route to the Party, with the way things are going down hill fast for all of the Biden's.
That same individual could be elected as president to serve another
term, whether consecutively or not. That means one inauguration for
that term, without any need for any second or third or fourth or any
other subsequent inauguration.
What are the qualifications for a corpse, asking for a friend.
Yep! Biden calls us "White supremacists," but really we're just
"Whit
people" aka "the biggest threat to homeland security."
Yeah! Whoopi Goldberg for President!
With Mayor Ted Danson as Vice President!
Those 2 lowlifes are headed in the same direction as the country, so why not?
That same individual could be elected as president to serve another
term, whether consecutively or not. That means one inauguration for
that term, without any need for any second or third or fourth or any
other subsequent inauguration.
What are the qualifications for a corpse, asking for a friend.
How do you imagine that things are going down hill for all of theJust curious? How is it possible that you do not know.
Biden's?
How do you imagine that things are going down hill for all of theJust curious? How is it possible that you do not know.
Biden's?
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