• Trump & The Documents

    From IB Joe@1:342/200 to All on Sun Jun 11 16:48:34 2023
    Representative Jim Jordan was on CNN this weekend and, in my honest opinion took CNN to school.

    Here's a small snippet, and analysis on it. Jim Jordan talks about the unanimous decision the Supreme Court made in 1988 on the same topic.

    The presenter also rendered his opinion on why the Democrats are doing what they are doing.... and I concur.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USIYgpp0TEc

    Jim reminded the CNN host of all the election interference the DOJ/CIA/FBI has done in the past. The host could do anything she could to interrupt Jim giving the countless examples... Funny As Shit

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTXOmEpcyGc

    This is the whole video, there is more to see here...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJrPi8QwhSI

    Have a great day

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sun Jun 11 16:38:14 2023
    Representative Jim Jordan was on CNN this weekend and, in my honest opinion took CNN to school.

    If you are Donald Trump (or a Donald trump supporter) this indictment likely seems like a weapon, it is damning.

    That does not mean that the DOJ (or anyone else) has weaponized the law/DOJ/FBI or anything else.

    Donald trump was indicted by a grand jury in Florida, a jury of his peers.

    Joe Biden indicted no one and is not going to indict anyone.

    The investigation of individuals is normal when crimes are commited or suspected.

    Donald Trump commited crimes, we all know that. He talks about it on the TV!

    This indictment is no surprise, we knew it was being investigated. The investigation has now concluded and the indictment has dropped.

    Stop trying to make this political. It is not.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 12 07:18:52 2023
    IB Joe wrote to All <=-

    Representative Jim Jordan was on CNN this weekend and, in my honest opinion took CNN to school.

    You can take an Ignorant Elitist to school, but you can't make him learn.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Mon Jun 12 06:59:07 2023
    On 11 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    If you are Donald Trump (or a Donald trump supporter) this indictment likely seems like a weapon, it is damning.

    That does not mean that the DOJ (or anyone else) has weaponized the law/DOJ/FBI or anything else.


    The government is weaponized and their is a 2 tiered justice system in the US.


    Donald trump was indicted by a grand jury in Florida, a jury of his
    peers.


    This shows what you don't know.... Grand jury convened in DC, not Florida
    like it should have been.


    Joe Biden indicted no one and is not going to indict anyone.


    His thugs did because, like the last 3 elections the FBI/CIA/DOJ and deep
    state have tried to affect the elections

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Mon Jun 12 07:12:16 2023
    On 11 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    Donald trump was indicted by a grand jury in Florida, a jury of his
    peers.


    I don't know if this made it.... Lost message... Trump did not get indicted by a Florida grand jury... it was a DC grand jury that indicted him.


    The investigation of individuals is normal when crimes are commited or suspected.

    Says Hillary Clinton??

    Donald Trump commited crimes, we all know that. He talks about it on the TV!

    I missed that one...

    This indictment is no surprise, we knew it was being investigated. The investigation has now concluded and the indictment has dropped.

    Stop trying to make this political. It is not.

    I'll post a video in my net message

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 12 07:37:08 2023
    The government is weaponized and their is a 2 tiered justice system in the US.

    What do you base that on? The fact that Donald Trump was investigated and is now indicted?

    Donald trump was indicted by a grand jury in Florida, a jury of his
    peers.

    This shows what you don't know.... Grand jury convened in DC, not Florida like it should have been.

    Wrong, it was a grand jury in florida. There was also a grand jury in DC but it was the one in Florida that indicted Donald Trump.

    Joe Biden indicted no one and is not going to indict anyone.

    His thugs did because, like the last 3 elections the FBI/CIA/DOJ and deep state have tried to affect the elections

    None of these people you mention are thugs.

    Is Joe Biden a thug because he won the election?

    There is no deep state Joe, that is a QAnon consiracy theory.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 12 07:40:38 2023
    I don't know if this made it.... Lost message... Trump did not get indicted by
    a Florida grand jury... it was a DC grand jury that indicted him.

    It did get out.

    The investigation of individuals is normal when crimes are commited or
    suspected.

    Says Hillary Clinton??

    It's a normal thing in America and most of the world.

    Donald Trump commited crimes, we all know that. He talks about it on the
    TV!

    I missed that one...

    He admitted to stealing documents at his CNN town hall.

    This indictment is no surprise, we knew it was being investigated. The
    investigation has now concluded and the indictment has dropped.

    Stop trying to make this political. It is not.

    I'll post a video in my net message

    You already posted videos of Jim Jordan. Isn't he a silly guy!

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Mon Jun 12 09:28:50 2023
    On 12 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    The government is weaponized and their is a 2 tiered justice system in th

    What do you base that on? The fact that Donald Trump was investigated
    and is now indicted?

    In a biased way...

    Donald trump was indicted by a grand jury in Florida, a jury of his
    peers.

    This shows what you don't know.... Grand jury convened in DC, not Florid like it should have been.

    Wrong, it was a grand jury in florida. There was also a grand jury in DC but it was the one in Florida that indicted Donald Trump.

    Wrong again....

    "Prosecutors working for special counsel Jack Smith had been presenting evidence and witness testimony before a separate grand jury in Washington, D.C., for months, but activity appeared to have slowed in recent weeks based on sources and observations at the courthouse."

    Full article... https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/grand-jury-trump-classified-docum ents-case-expected-meet-coming-week-h-rcna87599

    This is known and verifiable. I sent a message earlier this morning... I know you like to be uninformed and go off 1/2 cocked... but you should listen to what Robert Barns has to say.

    Joe Biden indicted no one and is not going to indict anyone.

    His thugs did because, like the last 3 elections the FBI/CIA/DOJ and dee state have tried to affect the elections

    None of these people you mention are thugs.

    Is Joe Biden a thug because he won the election?

    There is no deep state Joe, that is a QAnon consiracy theory.


    We are in troubled times... look at the video and comment after that.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 12 09:57:34 2023
    The government is weaponized and their is a 2 tiered justice system in th >>
    What do you base that on? The fact that Donald Trump was investigated
    and is now indicted?

    In a biased way...

    Biased and factless.

    There is no deep state Joe, that is a QAnon consiracy theory.

    We are in troubled times... look at the video and comment after that.

    We simply disagree. There is no trouble as long as we treat each other with respect.

    I won't invest the time for that video, I just don't have it.

    I am intereted in why you think Trump's investigation/indictment/arrest needs a constiution look up. Can you explain that briefly?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 12 10:07:28 2023
    We are in troubled times... look at the video and comment after that.

    Lighten up a bit..

    https://youtu.be/YbjunFQKuFQ

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Mon Jun 12 11:07:49 2023
    On 12 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    In a biased way...

    Biased and factless.

    https://youtu.be/FpIueI4ua-8

    I won't invest the time for that video, I just don't have it.


    If you don't want to educate yourself... speaks volumes of your naivete

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 12 10:43:24 2023
    I won't invest the time for that video, I just don't have it.

    If you don't want to educate yourself... speaks volumes of your naivete

    Can you explain your thoughts?

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Mon Jun 12 12:59:50 2023
    On 12 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    I won't invest the time for that video, I just don't have it.

    If you don't want to educate yourself... speaks volumes of your naivete

    Can you explain your thoughts?


    The video with Barns explains it best... I know it was a long one... BUT it was filled with all you needed to know.

    There are people here that think the grand jury took place in Florida. I know I spend a lot of time watching the news....

    Anyway, I am helping someone with their US immigration paperwork... so I'll focus on that for a little

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 12 12:04:54 2023
    I won't invest the time for that video, I just don't have it.

    If you don't want to educate yourself... speaks volumes of your naivete

    I'll invest in you joe, but not them.

    Here's some facts regarding Hillary from Andrew McCabe a former deputy director of the FBI talking about Hillary's investigation.

    Andrew McCabe speaks around 3:15

    https://youtu.be/cG5tObAEnQI

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 12 12:10:44 2023
    Can you explain your thoughts?

    The video with Barns explains it best... I know it was a long one... BUT it was filled with all you needed to know.

    I just don't have the time for that and I don't want to go down whatever rabbit hole this is.

    Even if I did watch it all, I am note sure I would pick up on your point and that is why I ask you.

    Anyway, I am helping someone with their US immigration paperwork... so I'll focus on that for a little

    Get to it when/if you can. I am just curious.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 12 14:01:58 2023
    In a biased way...

    Biased and factless.

    https://youtu.be/FpIueI4ua-8

    I have seen/heard all of that.

    It is fake news. It is untrue. It is feckless.

    This kind of garbage is the reason fox news paid out more than 3/4 of a billion dollars in settlements. There is another case much the same still facing Fox incorperated.

    How long will republicans continue with this kind of garbage?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 13 02:39:03 2023
    Hello Joe,

    Donald trump was indicted by a grand jury in Florida, a jury of his
    peers.

    I don't know if this made it.... Lost message... Trump did not get indicted
    by a Florida grand jury... it was a DC grand jury that indicted him.

    Trump will be arraigned tomorrow - in Florida - facing 37 criminal
    charges. How will he plead? We'll find out tomorrow.

    The investigation of individuals is normal when crimes are commited or
    suspected.

    Says Hillary Clinton??

    Investigations can also be political stunts.
    Which might explain why Hillary Clinton has not
    been charged. Or Hunter Biden, for that matter.

    For Life,
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ib Joe on Tue Jun 13 01:41:02 2023
    On 06-12-23 09:28, Ib Joe <=-
    spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: Trump & The Documents <=-

    Donald trump was indicted by a grand jury in Florida, a jury of his
    peers.

    This shows what you don't know.... Grand jury
    convened in DC, not Florid
    like it should have been.

    Wrong, it was a grand jury in florida. There was also a grand jury in DC but it was the one in Florida that indicted Donald Trump.

    Wrong again....

    NO, you are wrong. It was the Florida grand jury that provided the
    indictment which led to Trump being arrested in Florida on Tuesday June
    13. If it had been the DC grand jury that issued the indictment, then
    the trial etc. would be in DC, not in Florida.

    "Prosecutors working for special counsel Jack Smith had
    been presenting evidence and witness testimony before a
    separate grand jury in Washington, D.C., for months, but
    activity appeared to have slowed in recent weeks based on
    sources and observations at the courthouse."

    SO?

    Full article...
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/grand-jury- trump-classified-docum
    ents-case-expected-meet-coming-week-h-rcna87599

    That article also says that there is a grand jury in Florida. It does
    not say which grand jury presented the indictment.

    This is known and verifiable. I sent a message earlier
    this morning... I know you like to be uninformed and go off
    1/2 cocked... but you should listen to what Robert Barns
    has to say.

    He sounds like a rabid Trump supporter.

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