IB Joe wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

Documents don't get declassified "on the way out the door".

Apparently they can... There is no special procedure for a president to declassify... Moreover, an official document signed by trump was
released the other day. He took the documents about the Russia hoax
and the deep state is worried..

The Ignorant Elitists like Alan want to believe that they are experts on everything.

Hence the need to always be right. If they are wrong about something, they would have to face the reality that they aren't the experts that they want to believe themselves to be. And they can't handle reality.


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On 10 Jun 2023, Ron L. said the following...

The Ignorant Elitists like Alan want to believe that they are experts on everything.

Hence the need to always be right. If they are wrong about something, they would have to face the reality that they aren't the experts that
they want to believe themselves to be. And they can't handle reality.

The direction things went in 2020 was not the direction I thought things should go... BUT, I have solace in knowing that the truth is being revealed in a way that might not have been revealed if Trump got it.

I have 0 belief that any government gives any fucks about their constituents. There is corruption in the Canadian government... but OMG, is there corruption in the US government and they are fighting hard not to have Trump re-elected to he can start to have some accountability...

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Apparently they can... There is no special procedure for a president to declassify...

Really? Should the person or agency that classified the documents originally

involved?

Per Dale, it depends on the classification. Some classifications can not
be declassified without coordination with the issuing agency.


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The current president stored classified documents in a car garage and as VP or senator he did not have Plenary Authority to have any of these

ocuments.

I'm sure he did too although I am not sure where they were stored.

Ironic considering that the car garage information was in the mainstream
news, while the fact that he was not President when he took them (and
therefore lacked authority) was the part that was glossed over.

So it would be "he did" and not "he did, too" because what he did was
different than what Clinton, Obama, Bush, or Trump might have or did do.

When those records were found Biden told NARA he had them and they could come d get them. More were found and likewise he simply returned them.

He invited NARA or the FBI to search his home/office if thay wanted to.

He did not try to conceal these documents as Donald Trump did and when these

uments were found they were returned. No search warrants were needed or

xecut

Why wasn't NARA looking for Biden's (missing from them) documents but were looking for Trump's (also missing from them)?

My takeaway from all of this with Presidents and documents is that NARA, as
is, is not a safe place for government documents of any type to be housed
as they apparently have great difficulty keeping track of what they have
and what the should have but that is out in the wild.

That needs fixing.

The Presidential Records Act has no legal jurisdiction here... This
is why the are trying the espionage angel. Hopefully the judge that was appointed to the case will not be buying the Biden administration's brand

f

BS.

I'm not sure why you bring up the presidential records act. Donald Trump was

rged with 37 criminal counts related to national security.

Because, until recently, your arguement was that he had confidential
documents that he didn't have the right to declassify. Now you have
changed to "that doesn't matter cuz national security."


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I'm sure he did too although I am not sure where they were stored.

Ironic considering that the car garage information was in the mainstream news, while the fact that he was not President when he took them (and therefore lacked authority) was the part that was glossed over.

It was not glossed over. There is a special prosecutor assigned.

No charges to date but the case is open.

Why wasn't NARA looking for Biden's (missing from them) documents but were looking for Trump's (also missing from them)?

Maybe NARA was not aware. I couldn't say.

My takeaway from all of this with Presidents and documents is that NARA, as is, is not a safe place for government documents of any type to be housed
as they apparently have great difficulty keeping track of what they have
and what the should have but that is out in the wild.

NARA has archived the documents safely, whatever documents they are given.

That needs fixing.

That could be, but NARA can't archive documents they don't have.

Because, until recently, your arguement was that he had confidential documents that he didn't have the right to declassify. Now you have
changed to "that doesn't matter cuz national security."

Indeed he did, are you saying he did not?

I am saying that these charges are based on national security.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

I have 0 belief that any government gives any fucks about their constituents. There is corruption in the Canadian government... but
OMG, is there corruption in the US government and they are fighting
hard not to have Trump re-elected to he can start to have some accountability...

And I think you hit it. People are waking up from Woke-ness and finding that things aren't what they were promised.

The Elitists in power right now (or at least their patsies) are really scared. Because if they get pushed out of power, someone will start holding them accountable. It would make the Nuremberg Trials seem tame.


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IB Joe wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

No... you should look up the case they had against Bill Clinton...
Court case

But to Ignorant Elitists like Alan, that's different.

Remember "Rules for thee, but not for me" is the Elitist's mantra.


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IB Joe wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

All in one sitting? Wow! Do you remember the first three words?
Those are the most important. "We the People ..."

It's really not a lot of reading...

No, but remember that Lee has a problem reading anything more than a few lines long from his masters. And he is deathly afraid of reading anything that shows him wrong.

I didn't say it was part of the constitution... It was part of the book
I got... you sound like a bitter man... I hope I didn't miss-gender
you.

All Ignorant Elitists are bitter. Because, try as they might, Reality will not conform to their Narrative.

And again... your point?

He has no point. He just brings up random things to distract away from the fact that he has no argument or evidence for his statements.

If anybody does not understand the constitution is Joe Biden

Right now, I doubt Joe understand anything.

But, none of the Elitists think that the Constitution restrains them.


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No... you should look up the case they had against Bill Clinton...
Court case

Bill Clinton and Hunter Biden!

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On 11 Jun 2023, Ron L. said the following...

IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

I have 0 belief that any government gives any fucks about their constituents. There is corruption in the Canadian government... but OMG, is there corruption in the US government and they are fighting hard not to have Trump re-elected to he can start to have some accountability...

And I think you hit it. People are waking up from Woke-ness and finding that things aren't what they were promised.

Do you know what the elites hate more than anything.... It's this... Do you know what the similarities are between Bubba from Florida and Bill Gates... how about Bubba's cousin, or 1/2 brother, from Mississippi... Billy Joe Jim Bob and Hillary Clinton??

And this is what drives them NUTS... They all have one vote. Bubba's vote is equal to that of Bill Gates and the same goes for Billy Joe Jim Bob and Hillary. It's equal, carries the same weight... So in 2016 when the populous president was voted in... they were offended at the highest level.

The Elitists in power right now (or at least their patsies) are really scared. Because if they get pushed out of power, someone will start holding them accountable. It would make the Nuremberg Trials seem tame.

Trump is already promising something like this. It can be the only way to expose the corruption in DC.

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Hello Alan,

No... you should look up the case they had against Bill Clinton...
Court case

Bill Clinton

Lock him up! (and Hillary too)

and Hunter Biden!

Lock him up! (and Joe too, along with Jill)

For Life,
Lee

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

And this is what drives them NUTS... They all have one vote. Bubba's
vote is equal to that of Bill Gates and the same goes for Billy Joe Jim Bob and Hillary. It's equal, carries the same weight... So in 2016
when the populous president was voted in... they were offended at the highest level.

Yup. They MUST be more important than everyone else. It's been that way among humans from the start.

Trump is already promising something like this. It can be the only way
to expose the corruption in DC.

The corruption is already exposed. The problem is doing something about it and holding people accountable for their actions.


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I'm sure he did too although I am not sure where they were stored.

Ironic considering that the car garage information was in the mainstream news, while the fact that he was not President when he took them (and therefore lacked authority) was the part that was glossed over.

It was not glossed over. There is a special prosecutor assigned.

No charges to date but the case is open.

The mainstream media has glossed it over.

This case, and the tax evasion/weapons case against Hunter, are not being pursuded with nearly the vigor as either of the current cases against
Trump. Did you know the Hunter case has been open for 5 or so years now
but, in the words of legal experts, it has been slow-tracked so much it is ridiculous?

I believe we could wait 5 or more years for the Biden document case, too, unless a non-Democrat gets elected in 2024.


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No... you should look up the case they had against Bill Clinton...
Court case

Bill Clinton and Hunter Biden!

To the best of my recollection, Hunter had nothing to do with the Bill
Clinton case Joe is talking about.


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I believe we could wait 5 or more years for the Biden document case, too, unless a non-Democrat gets elected in 2024.

It will conclude at some point.

What evidence makes you think Joe Biden has done something wrong?

If there was evidence of serious crimes he would have been charged.

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No... you should look up the case they had against Bill Clinton...
Court case

Bill Clinton and Hunter Biden!

To the best of my recollection, Hunter had nothing to do with the Bill Clinton case Joe is talking about.

I'm sorry. Did you miss the point agian?

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