• Documents in the garage

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALL on Fri Apr 14 17:09:00 2023
    Pentagon Leaker Kicking Himself For Not Just Leaving Classified Documents Strewn Around His Garage

    SOURCE: The Babylon Bee

    DIGHTON, MA -- Military police have arrested Jack Teixeira for allegedly leaking classified documents that contained information on the war in Ukraine. Teixeira, an Air National Guardsman, is currently kicking himself for not just leaving documents strewn around an unlocked garage as the President did.

    "Ugh! I'm so stupid! Why didn't I just print them out and leave them in a garage, or a vacation home, or the trunk of a Corvette?" said the distraught Teixeira while being hauled away. "What on earth was I thinking?"

    MORE AT:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/pentagon-leaker-kicking-himself-for-not-just-leaving
    -classified-documents-strewn-around-his-garage

    https://tinyurl.com/3cynav5u

    In all seriousness, why would a National Guardsman have access to such information to leak to begin with?


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Sat Apr 15 01:03:02 2023
    On 04-14-23 17:09, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to All about Documents in the garage <=-

    In all seriousness, why would a National Guardsman have access to such information to leak to begin with?

    Perhaps because of sloppy access controls by the Air National Guard?

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Sat Apr 15 08:41:00 2023
    In all seriousness, why would a National Guardsman have access to such information to leak to begin with?

    Perhaps because of sloppy access controls by the Air National Guard?

    I would think sloppy access controls higher than that. Some of the stuff reported to have been leaked is stuff that makes me question why anyone
    outside of the Pentagon and above would have any reason to know about.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sat Apr 15 16:04:22 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-

    I would think sloppy access controls higher than that. Some of the
    stuff reported to have been leaked is stuff that makes me question why anyone outside of the Pentagon and above would have any reason to know about.

    Which makes me think that the National Guard person was just the one who was chosen to take the blame - not the one who did the actual retrieval of data.

    The amount of distration and show today is just... I don't have the word. It takes the term "gaslighting" to a whole new level. What's real? What's stagged to look real? What's real, but has been warped by the Narrative to look like something else?

    Without reliable news sources (because we don't have that today), it's hard to know.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dale Shipp on Sun Apr 16 05:16:36 2023
    Hello Dale,

    In all seriousness, why would a National Guardsman have access to such
    information to leak to begin with?

    Perhaps because of sloppy access controls by the Air National Guard?

    Not to worry.
    Joe will fix it.
    With (or without) help from Hunter.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Sun Apr 16 01:07:02 2023
    On 04-15-23 08:41, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Documents in the gar <=-


    In all seriousness, why would a National Guardsman have access to such information to leak to begin with?

    Perhaps because of sloppy access controls by the Air National Guard?

    I would think sloppy access controls higher than that. Some of the
    stuff reported to have been leaked is stuff that makes me question why anyone outside of the Pentagon and above would have any reason to know about.

    It was on the news tonight that because he was in IT Admin, he had some
    sort of access to many documents -- not that he was supposed to read
    their contents. I call that sloppy. I do not know, but some of the
    documents might not have come from the Pentagon, but from elsewhere in
    the Intelligence community.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ron L. on Sun Apr 16 01:10:04 2023
    On 04-15-23 16:04, Ron L. <=-
    spoke to Mike Powell about Re: Documents in the gar <=-

    Mike Powell wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-

    I would think sloppy access controls higher than that. Some of the
    stuff reported to have been leaked is stuff that makes me question why anyone outside of the Pentagon and above would have any reason to know about.

    Which makes me think that the National Guard person was just the one
    who was chosen to take the blame - not the one who did the actual retrieval of data.

    You have no evidence for that claim. The evidence is contrary to your statement.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Sun Apr 16 07:20:00 2023
    I would think sloppy access controls higher than that. Some of the stuff reported to have been leaked is stuff that makes me question why anyone outside of the Pentagon and above would have any reason to know about.

    It was on the news tonight that because he was in IT Admin, he had some
    sort of access to many documents -- not that he was supposed to read
    their contents. I call that sloppy. I do not know, but some of the documents might not have come from the Pentagon, but from elsewhere in
    the Intelligence community.

    Well, that he was an IT Admin is something I had not yet heard. They do sometimes wind up with access to things they should not have otherwise. Security Admins do also and, you are right, they are trusted not to read
    the contents.

    It is sloppy and it is best to find a way to prevent that, if possible.


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Mon Apr 17 01:10:00 2023
    On 04-16-23 07:20, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Documents in the gar <=-

    It was on the news tonight that because he was in IT Admin, he had some
    sort of access to many documents -- not that he was supposed to read
    their contents. I call that sloppy. I do not know, but some of the documents might not have come from the Pentagon, but from elsewhere in
    the Intelligence community.

    Well, that he was an IT Admin is something I had not yet heard. They
    do sometimes wind up with access to things they should not have
    otherwise. Security Admins do also and, you are right, they are trusted not to read the contents.

    It is sloppy and it is best to find a way to prevent that, if
    possible.

    I would suggest end to end encryption (and I have heard that mentioned
    on at least one news channel by a talking head). It might well be
    difficult to implement in such a way as to give the multiple intended recipients ability to read, while at the same time denying read ability
    to transitory points.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dale Shipp on Mon Apr 17 13:14:46 2023
    Hello Dale,

    [..]

    Which makes me think that the National Guard person was just the one
    who was chosen to take the blame - not the one who did the actual
    retrieval of data.

    You have no evidence for that claim. The evidence is contrary to your statement.

    If Alex Jones said it, it must be true.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Mon Apr 17 15:17:00 2023
    I would suggest end to end encryption (and I have heard that mentioned
    on at least one news channel by a talking head). It might well be
    difficult to implement in such a way as to give the multiple intended recipients ability to read, while at the same time denying read ability
    to transitory points.

    That would help prevent persons from decrypting them in transit, but if the offender is on the sending or receiving end it would only do so if they did
    not have clearance.

    Since IT and security admins often have clearance (or the keys), it might
    not have helped in this case.

    Several, several years ago now, there was a high-ranking (but not elected) state official whose computer was originally not locked down with a
    password. Once forced to use one, he had someone else log him on each
    morning because, in his mind, the computer should boot right up and be
    ready without such nonsense.

    The top IT person reported to this person, and he had the final say in a
    lot of IT matters. :( While I doubt he had access to any serious IT data,
    he did likely have all sorts of budget, and other sensitive, data readily available.


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Tue Apr 18 01:38:00 2023
    On 04-17-23 15:17, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Documents in the gar <=-


    I would suggest end to end encryption (and I have heard that mentioned
    on at least one news channel by a talking head). It might well be
    difficult to implement in such a way as to give the multiple intended recipients ability to read, while at the same time denying read ability
    to transitory points.

    That would help prevent persons from decrypting them in transit, but
    if the offender is on the sending or receiving end it would only do so
    if they did not have clearance.

    Since IT and security admins often have clearance (or the keys), it
    might not have helped in this case.

    Not true. Clearance does not automatically grant access. It only
    enables access if one has "need to know". The IT personnel may well have
    the clearance, but could be prevented from decrypting by not having the appropriate keys.


    Several, several years ago now, there was a high-ranking (but not
    elected) state official whose computer was originally not locked down
    with a password. Once forced to use one, he had someone else log him
    on each morning because, in his mind, the computer should boot right up and be ready without such nonsense.

    Such ignorance and lack of concern is one of the things that makes
    security difficult.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Tue Apr 18 16:47:00 2023
    Not true. Clearance does not automatically grant access. It only
    enables access if one has "need to know". The IT personnel may well have
    the clearance, but could be prevented from decrypting by not having the appropriate keys.

    Yes, but...

    Such ignorance and lack of concern is one of the things that makes
    security difficult.

    I think that ignorance and concern exist in enough places that they story I told, of an underling knowning their bosses PW, is also how IT personnel
    wind up having the keys, whether they were originally meant to or not and especially if the persons who are supposed to have the clearance do not
    know how to use the tech.


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