Gregory Deyss wrote to Mike Powell <=-
That is total and complete BULLSHIT! Biden is a Pussy, pure and simple, there is no other way to say it.
It would not fall out of the sky and
hurl to the earth as Biden has suggested. In-fact if you punched a hole
in a helium balloon it will lose altitude and gently fall out of the
sky as it looses helium, therefore, it wouldn't plummet to earth as
Biden has suggested.
The real truth is more likely that Biden was very afraid of what would
the Chinese do next with an act of aggression or other forms
retaliation for knocking the hell out of this thing.
This absolutely shows the world that Biden is an absolute push-over and more over to a greater point makes the United States of America appear weak.
I wonder what the people in Taiwan, must be thinking...
I suspect that either 1) Biden's waiting for the balloon to reach the Pacific Ocean so that the owners can reclaim it or 2) It's doing something more nefarious that just spying or 3) It's a prop for the "Biden's a hero" charade.
("Look how well he handled that!")
...beautiful, my beautiful... Chinese Spy Balloon!!!You beat me to it Mike..:)
I so was looking forward to coming home to sound off about this.
So this morning I am watching the local news (NBC affiliate), and they mention that a UFO was sighted over Montana and US officials had determined it was a spy balloon, likely from China. Apparently it wafted across the US-Canadian border sometime mid-week.
I do believe due to what this is; A Spy Balloon, by that very nature it is confirmed as a intentional intrusion into U.S. air space.
They also said that the decision on what to do about it went all the way up to President Biden, who said we couldn't shoot it down because it might "fall and hurt someone."
That is total and complete BULLSH*T! Biden is a Pu**y, pure and simple, there is no other way to say it. It would not fall out of the sky and hurl to the earth as Biden has suggested. In-fact if you punched a hole in a helium balloo
it will lose altitude and gently fall out of the sky as it looses helium, therefore, it wouldn't plummet to earth as Biden has suggested.
[...snip...]
As the caller indicated "Nothing happens quickly in a balloon."
anyone says or mentions... What would Trump do? The Dems would have you believ
that Trump would of started World War III over this, that is just foolish but that is the kind of thing that they would have you believe. As they would sit there in their mommas basement while licking a fudgesicle as they tell you between licks that they thank their lucky stars that Trump is not in power. We both know how the left thinks.
This absolutely shows the world that Biden is an absolute push-over and more over to a greater point makes the United States of America appear weak.
I wonder what the people in Taiwan, must be thinking... you promised you would
protect us from Chinese aggression and you have a very tired man in your White
House that either will not or can not defend his own air space.
How are you going to protect us, in our time of need?
It is very ironic that next week is The State of the Union, is Biden really going to stand there and suggest to the American People that the State of the Union is strong and meanwhile he did nothing while a spy balloon floated from Montana and went unchecked left alone to eventually float out to the Atlantic Ocean?
Our government seems as clueless, and vulnerable, as they did right before 9/11.
They seem complicit to me.
But didn't the Japanese do something similar back in WWII? Only a couple made it to the U.S. and I think only 1 exploded.
The real truth is more likely that Biden was very afraid of what would the Chinese do next with an act of aggression or other forms
retaliation for knocking the hell out of this thing.
More likely that the Biden Crime Family was paid to effectively ignore this.
Well, shooting it down over Kansas City would not have done him well for #3. Waiting until it got to a more populous part of the country, rather than shooting it down over Montana, makes me skeptical of his handling of it.
I suspect that either 1) Biden's waiting for the balloon to reach thecharade.
Pacific
Ocean so that the owners can reclaim it or 2) It's doing something more
nefarious that just spying or 3) It's a prop for the "Biden's a hero"
("Look how well he handled that!")
Well, shooting it down over Kansas City would not have done him well for #3. Waiting until it got to a more populous part of the country, rather than shooting it down over Montana, makes me skeptical of his handling of it.
Now there are apparently two of them, although the second one may be over South America... I think they meant the continent and not the Southern US when I heard about it.
I don't think the first one will reach the Pacific unless it flies around the globe. It is likely being moved by the jet stream, which would carry it more NW to SE and towards the Gulf or Atlantic. The close up photos show that the payload it is carrying has solar panels (much like a satellite)
and I would guess it also is transmitting back to base, which means they don't have to reclaim it.
It looked like a small satellite hanging from a balloon instead of orbiting
in space.
...beautiful, my beautiful... Chinese Spy Balloon!!!
You beat me to it Mike..:)
I so was looking forward to coming home to sound off about this.
LOL, yeah I was wondering if someone would not have already posted about it
when I did so yesterday. :)
So this morning I am watching the local news (NBC affiliate), and
they
mention that a UFO was sighted over Montana and US officials had
determined it was a spy balloon, likely from China. Apparently it
wafted across the US-Canadian border sometime mid-week.
I do believe due to what this is; A Spy Balloon, by that very nature it is
confirmed as a intentional intrusion into U.S. air space.
Correct. China tried to claim it was not a spy balloon, that it was
maybe even from a third-party Chinese source (like a company), and that it "got away" from whoever was handling it. The Pentagon has confirmed their belief that it is a spy balloon.
There are supposedly two of them now, so for China's explanation to be true
someone must have been very careless with their balloons. :)
Trump has already said he would have shot it down somehow.
I don't doubt the Chinese have figured out we are pretty soft right now. I
think everyone except the Russians have figured that out.
I wonder what the people in Taiwan, must be thinking... you promisedyou would
protect us from Chinese aggression and you have a very tired man inyour White
House that either will not or can not defend his own air space.
How are you going to protect us, in our time of need?
I am actually a little shocked that China has not tried something aggressive against Taiwan. Maybe they really don't want it back.
There are apparently two of them now. Somehow, and unfortunately, I doubt that the audience that will be watching the SotU and buying what is said really care about being spied on. They are probably in the "China is our friend" camp.
But didn't the Japanese do something similar back in WWII? Only a couple
made it to the U.S. and I think only 1 exploded.
Yes, they did do something similar, the difference being that theirs were not really spy balloons but were intended to be weapons. IIRC, the one that did reach North America may have landed in Canada, or maybe the Pacific Northwest. I cannot remember now.
I have wondered if the decision not to shoot these down now might be because they think they might be rigged to explode, possibly with a nuclear
device.
The real truth is more likely that Biden was very afraid of what would
the Chinese do next with an act of aggression or other forms
retaliation for knocking the hell out of this thing.
More likely that the Biden Crime Family was paid to effectively ignore
this.
The balloon was only spotted by the public because it was an unusually clear day and, I am guessing, folks were looking into the skies in hopes of
seeing the comet later in the evening. Seeing something during the day probably caught them offguard.
So who knows how often these balloons invade US airspace.
Well, shooting it down over Kansas City would not have done him wellfor
#3. Waiting until it got to a more populous part of the country,rather
than shooting it down over Montana, makes me skeptical of hishandling of
it.
Same here, and it bothers me. Why are we not finding out about this until it
made it all the way to Montana?
It's the size of 2 school buses, they said. It could have hurt someone along
the way.
How bad is our radar system?
I was under the impression that we know how to detect and destroy unauthorized aircraft?
How would we defend ourselves had it been a bomb?
It's BS for the media and for the white house to pass it off as
"..just another one of those spying aircrafts the size of 2 school buses flying overhead today..." They normalize it as if we should expect this all
the time as a somewhat normal occurrance. (TOTAL BS)
We know that our military is much more sophisticated than this.
What if it was loaded with explosives?
Nobody would even have a clue until it's over Montana?
It's either a gigantic military failure,
or else it's another hustle for "the big guy."
If nothing else, it's proof to the whole world that the mainland USA doesn't
guard their skies.
On 02-04-23 10:05, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Gregory Deyss about Re: Up, Up, and away, in <=-
I do believe due to what this is; A Spy Balloon, by that very nature it is confirmed as a intentional intrusion into U.S. air space.
Correct. China tried to claim it was not a spy balloon, that it was
maybe even from a third-party Chinese source (like a company), and
that it "got away" from whoever was handling it. The Pentagon has confirmed their belief that it is a spy balloon.
There are supposedly two of them now, so for China's explanation to be true someone must have been very careless with their balloons. :)
Language but, yes, I do not disagree. Not sure if it is a reflection of Biden himself (who I think used to be sort of warhawkish?), a reflection of the beliefs of his handlers and the part of our public he is trying to play to, or a reflection of any possible affiliations that Biden might have with certain other countries.
I also wondered if they were not afraid that it might contain someThere were many What If's
nuclear device.
There are apparently two of them now. Somehow, and unfortunately, I
doubt that the audience that will be watching the SotU and buying what
is said really care about being spied on. They are probably in the
"China is our friend" camp.
Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-
The balloon was only spotted by the public because it was an unusually clear day and, I am guessing, folks were looking into the skies in
hopes of seeing the comet later in the evening. Seeing something
during the day probably caught them offguard.
So who knows how often these balloons invade US airspace.
Mike Powell wrote to RON LAUZON <=-
Yes, they did do something similar, the difference being that theirs
were not really spy balloons but were intended to be weapons. IIRC,
the one that did reach North America may have landed in Canada, or
maybe the Pacific Northwest. I cannot remember now.
I have wondered if the decision not to shoot these down now might be because they think they might be rigged to explode, possibly with a nuclear device.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-
Why would someone let millions of dollars worth of equipment float
around wherever the wind will take it?
You're right about that. Further inspection is needed. However, we
won't be inspecting anything if the aircraft makes it safely back home
to China.
Same here, and it bothers me. Why are we not finding out about this until it made it all the way to Montana? It's the size of 2 school buses, they said. It
could have hurt someone along the way.
How bad is our radar system? I was under the impression that we know how to detect and destroy unauthorized aircraft? How would we defend ourselves had it
been a bomb? It's BS for the media and for the white house to pass it off as "..just another one of those spying aircrafts the size of 2 school buses flyin
overhead today..." They normalize it as if we should expect this all the time as a somewhat normal occurrance. (TOTAL BS)
We know that our military is much more sophisticated than this. What if it was
loaded with explosives? Nobody would even have a clue until it's over Montana?
It's either a gigantic military failure, or else it's another hustle for "the big guy." If nothing else, it's proof to the whole world that the mainland USA
doesn't guard their skies.
Did you hear the news that the balloon has been shot down over coast of South Carolina,
but Biden's response seems to have changed. He said that he told the
Pentagon days ago that he authorized shooting it down. His handlers probably suggested "that the balloon must be shot down, because if it is not it could further damage your already worthless reputation, Mr. President, also sir continuing to do nothing could have massive negative consequences for the Democratic party."
is said really care about being spied on. They are probably in the "China is our friend" camp.
You know that I am not in that camp, I do not understand why there is not already a bill or an executive order that stops the purchase (and reverses previously sold land or property) to any foreign national from outside the U.S.A banning the sale of land or property in the U.S. to a foreign national o
to a country that is considered to be hostile.
This. I would get accomplished within the first day and within the first hour.
It sort of reminds me of the Yugo that went off the Mackinac Bridge many years ago. It wasn't that the car went over that scared the Bridge Authorities. It was the fact that if someone wouldn't have seen it,
they never would have known because it left no evidence. I'm sure that
the question of "How many are down there?" went through people's minds.
(BTW: They did send a dive team down in the summer and, to everyone's
relief, they only found the 1 car.)
I have wondered if the decision not to shoot these down now might be because they think they might be rigged to explode, possibly with a nuclear device.
Which is why I bring up the Japanese attempt. At the very least, it may
have a self-destruct mechanism.
Did you hear the news that the balloon has been shot down over coast of South Carolina, but Biden's response seems to have changed.
He said that he told the Pentagon days ago that he authorized shooting it down.
I also wondered if they were not afraid that it might contain some
nuclear device.
There were many What If's
There was this (your reference concerning a possible nuclear device)
I also have heard of many additional concerns that were on the minds of concerned folks. There was the thought over a deadly biological chemical attack and also with a possible EMP electromagnetic pulse event.
If shooting it down was not an option due a concern with people on the ground,
why was it not considered to have this thing towed and then lowered by Military aircraft?
Letting it float for days and apparently under some kind of
controlled navigation was really the wrong way to go.
This is will be a political quagmire with many questions and the damage has
already been done, it might be some time before it is felt and realized.
There was no reason to let it float about for so many days,
questions such as these must be answered and it is further evidence that Joe
Biden is not fit for office.
People can speculate all they want and how they wish with how
Trump would of handled this, but I can tell from one of his biggest supporters he wouldn't let this thing float about in U.S. for days.
Biden is a complete disgrace!
Was this possible with the aid of a Chinese satellite that it was in communication with.
If so I would consider treating it to a full spread of photonic torpedo's set to a maximum yield with a flash so bright it could
be seen from Beijing.
I am sure that we have technology that we took from Germany that the world knows nothing about and has not seen.
If the mission could be commanded by William Shatner or Scott Bakula that would be the perfect ending to a perfect day.
Much on the planet Earth must change before there can ever be a Starship Enterprise NX-01. but then would come the Vulcans. :)
There are apparently two of them now. Somehow, and unfortunately, I
doubt that the audience that will be watching the SotU and buying what
is said really care about being spied on. They are probably in the
"China is our friend" camp.
You know that I am not in that camp,
I do not understand why there is not already a bill or an executive order that stops the purchase (and reverses previously sold land or property) to any foreign national from outside the U.S.A banning the sale of land or property in the U.S. to a foreign national or
to a country that is considered to be hostile. >this. I would get accomplished within the first day and within the first hour.
On 02-05-23 08:08, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Mike Powell about Re: Up, Up, and away, in <=-
Did you hear the news that the balloon has been shot down over coast
of South Carolina, but Biden's response seems to have changed. He said that he told the Pentagon days ago that he authorized shooting it down.
His handlers probably suggested "that the balloon must be shot down, because if it is not it could further damage your already worthless reputation, Mr. President, also sir continuing to do nothing could have massive negative consequences for the Democratic party."
If shooting it down was not an option due a concern with people on the ground, why was it not considered to have this thing towed and then lowered by Military aircraft?
There was no reason to let it float about for so many days, questions
such as these must be answered and it is further evidence that Joe
Biden is not fit for office.
People can speculate all they want and how they wish with how
Trump would of handled this, but I can tell from one of his biggest supporters he wouldn't let this thing float about in U.S. for days.
Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-
I think they have some better surveilance of the bridge now but, in
some of the foggy conditions they get, I bet they still cannot see the whole thing.
IIRC, didn't they decide that person drove off on purpose?
How many balloons came into USA airspace during Trump's term in office? How many did Trump have shot down? Try the answers of "at least 3, and none".
How many balloons came into USA airspace during Trump's term in office?
How many did Trump have shot down? Try the answers of "at least 3, and
none".
Even John Bolton, who seemingly has a bad case of TDS, agrees with Trump that "it never happened" under the Trump administration.
But Mr. Racial Jungle says otherwise.
No. She was driving too fast for conditions with a very light car. A gust of wind effectively lifted the car off the ground and over the side.
The bridge is 4 lanes. The 2 inner lanes are grates - not solid roadbed.hi
is to allow the wind to pass through and avoid the Tacoma Narrows problem.f
you drive at the speeds they recommend (which is like 20-45 MPH) you'll have
problems.
Did you hear the news that the balloon has been shot down over coast
of South Carolina, but Biden's response seems to have changed. He said that he told the Pentagon days ago that he authorized shooting it down.
And so it was, once it was safe to do so.
How many balloons came into USA airspace during Trump's term in office? How many did Trump have shot down? Try the answers of "at least 3, and none".
On 02-06-23 20:02, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Up, Up, and away, in <=-
How many balloons came into USA airspace during Trump's term in office? How many did Trump have shot down? Try the answers of "at least 3, and none".
The answer is zero, the three that you are mentioning here is nothing
more then Democratic propaganda provided from the liberal media. It is totally completely made up and I will provide prove of this.
You should really take into consideration and question what you were
told and question who were you told this by was it cnn.com or msnbc.com
or another liberal outlet.
It would be best to remember to utilize the internet and do your own research.
You already know why these things about Trump and three of his alleged balloons that he supposedly missed. The following video explains this perfectly.
Source: Fox Business
tinyurl.com/3m8rtvfz
Source: https://www.nationalreview.com
https://tinyurl.com/mre7uxtm
Mike Powell wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-
Why wait until it had already crossed the whole country or, worse,
until something happened to it that caused it to fall over a densly-populated area on its own?
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
It would be best to remember to utilize the internet and do your own research.
Even John Bolton, who seemingly has a bad case of TDS, agrees with Tr that "it never happened" under the Trump administration.
Trump has been discredited. By multiple (credible) news sources.
So don't worry. Be happy.
250/1
On 02-06-23 20:02, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Up, Up, and away, in <=-
How many balloons came into USA airspace during Trump's term in offic How many did Trump have shot down? Try the answers of "at least 3, a none".
The answer is zero, the three that you are mentioning here is nothing more then Democratic propaganda provided from the liberal media. It i totally completely made up and I will provide prove of this.
You should really take into consideration and question what you were told and question who were you told this by was it cnn.com or msnbc.c or another liberal outlet.
It was told by the Pentagon.
It would be best to remember to utilize the internet and do your own research.
I did -- did you?
You already know why these things about Trump and three of his allege balloons that he supposedly missed. The following video explains this perfectly.
Source: Fox Business
tinyurl.com/3m8rtvfz
On 02-07-23 07:28, Ron L. <=-
spoke to Gregory Deyss about Re: Up, Up, and away, in <=-
It would be best to remember to utilize the internet and do your own research.
In order for Dale to do that, he would have to accept the idea that he could be wrong - and he can't do that.
He would also have to apply critical thinking skills, which he doesn't have.
On 02-07-23 03:35, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Up, Up, and away, in <=-
News sources? There's no "news source" that cancels out news from the former National Security Advisor.
News sources? There's no "news source" that cancels out news from the
former National Security Advisor.
The news source is the current Pentagon.
with TrEven John Bolton, who seemingly has a bad case of TDS, agrees
that "it never happened" under the Trump administration.
Trump has been discredited. By multiple (credible) news sources.
News sources? There's no "news source" that cancels out news from the former
National Security Advisor.
So don't worry. Be happy.
Thanks, but I'm worried! Joe is seriously selling us to China.
Need further proof?
Just watch: he'll be "reprimanding China" in some stupid insignificant
way real soon,
just to make idiots think that he's actually punishing them.
Did you hear the news that the balloon has been shot down over coast
of South Carolina, but Biden's response seems to have changed. He
said
that he told the Pentagon days ago that he authorized shooting it
down.
And so it was, once it was safe to do so.
It was safe to do so over Montana, too. It was very safe to do so when it was over Alaska, which our government knew about but we didn't because no civilians had seen it at that point. They also knew about it when it was between the Allutian Islands and mainland Alaska.
Why wait until it had already crossed the whole country or, worse, until something happened to it that caused it to fall over a densly-populated area
on its own?
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