Tonight, breaking news out of New York: "Former Trump organization CFO is headed to Rikers Island."
Remember, Trump bad, Biden Good...
In less important news: Biden says he was surprised to learn government records, including classified documents, were taken to his private office. <and that's all there is to say about this story from a leftist perspective.>
Will the FBI investigate Biden, or would that be just out of the question?
On 01-11-23 15:33, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Aaron Thomas about Joe's Docs <=-
They say it is not the same because Biden's team notified the Archives before the Archives knew they were missing, and they are cooperating.
Odd that the Archives didn't know these older documents were missing,
but they sure knew that Trump had some newer ones.
For a few of the documents, the Archives knew that they existed and that they were missing -- because Trump had bragged about them. E.g. his
"love letters" from Kim in NK. For other documents, an as-yet-unidentified party told the FBI that Trump had them.
They say it is not the same because Biden's team notified the Archives before the Archives knew they were missing, and they are cooperating.
Odd that the Archives didn't know these older documents were missing,
but they sure knew that Trump had some newer ones.
There will be a fall guy to blame this on. It won't be the Big Man, it wille
someone who just made a mistake. This person will be erased as if they never existed. There will be no accountability from Joe Biden as a individual.
I think the staff within the achieves knew the whereabouts of these documents and allowed for it to happen, if true then this is a double-standard.olitary
There sure as hell will not be a FBI raid, nor will there be a signal
agent visiting any former office of Joe Biden to search for more documents.
(remember what our parents told us)
Be honest and come clean w/ the truth, if you lie you will punished with severity.
The amount of stupidity from this geriatric fool is quite alarming and it has been defined as "The Biden Gaffes". This has happened so many times it just causes for a yet another moment of embarrassment and a eye-roll as it just gets added to the ever growing pile.
For all of those worried about who might have seen Trump's documents, I wonder who had access to some of these? Hunter? Could any of them assisted him in his business dealings in China or Ukraine?
For all of those worried about who might have seen Trump's documents, I wonder who had access to some of these? Hunter? Could any of them assisted him in his business dealings in China or Ukraine?
Biden said "I keep my garage locked." So, based on that logic, leftists
will just assume that Trump doesn't lock the doors at Mar a Lago.
Trump house bad, Biden garage good.
Trump house bad, Biden garage good.
One of the big stinks about Trump was that it was assumed they were not secured. At least he knew he had them. With Biden not even remembering having them, you have to wonder how secured they were.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Mike Powell <=-
Joe Biden is unfit for office and should be removed by force if
necessary. The effort required should be as equivalent to taken out the trash.
Joe's dishonestly could deem the Democratic Party as
untrustworthy.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-
Trump was wrong to think that his home was capable of guarding
classified documents, but Biden was even more wrong to think that his garage was capable of guarding SCI documents (even more sensitive than classified.)
Joe Biden is unfit for office and should be removed by force ifthe
necessary. The effort required should be as equivalent to taken out
trash.
But if that happens, Kamala would be President and not even the Democrats want
that to happen.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Mike Powell <=-
It wouldn't be long before President Obvious gets impeached too and then removed but be ready for the speech America is Racist, you know that THISJoe Biden is unfit for office and should be removed by force if necessary. The effort required should be as equivalent to taken out t trash.
But if that happens, Kamala would be President and not even the
Democrats want that to happen.
Joe's dishonestly could deem the Democratic Party as
untrustworthy.
You mean the Dems are not already deemed as dishonest?Yes of course they are dishonest as sin itself, but they always seem to recover and then are able to fortify as they provide more words. They believe they are speaking for all, but realistically they are tearing America further apart with every breath.
Trump was wrong to think that his home was capable of guarding classified documents, but Biden was even more wrong to think that his garage was capable of guarding SCI documents (even more sensitive tha classified.)
But the Trump documents were declassified - since Trump had the power to do that.
But Biden's documents are still classified - since he didn't have the power to declassify them at that time.
On 01-14-23 17:29, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Mike Powell about Re: Joe's Docs <=-
Trump was wrong to think that his home was capable of guarding
classified documents, but Biden was even more wrong to think that his garage was capable of guarding SCI documents (even more sensitive than classified.)
"How that could possibly happen, how one anyone could be that irresponsible." :)
iTrump was wrong to think that his home was capable of guarding classified documents, but Biden was even more wrong to think that
hgarage was capable of guarding SCI documents (even more sensitive
classified.)
But the Trump documents were declassified - since Trump had the power to do that.
But has he been tried yet? Trump claims that his documents were declassified, while the media and guys like Adam Schiff claim otherwise.
It is also not clear that Biden knew the documents were stored where
they were. I doubt that he is the one who packed them up or that he had reviewed the contents of the boxes. Someone did that, but we don't know
who and what experience they had.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dr. What <=-
It wouldn't be long before President Obvious gets impeached too and
then removed but be ready for the speech America is Racist, you know
that THIS would be the speech.
Yes of course they are dishonest as sin itself, but they always seem to recover and then are able to fortify as they provide more words.
They
believe they are speaking for all, but realistically they are tearing America further apart with every breath.
I believe that this, would provide a long-lasting KO blow.
That they wouldn't be able to recover from as quickly.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-
But has he been tried yet?
Trump claims that his documents were
declassified, while the media and guys like Adam Schiff claim
otherwise.
I think you're right. Now, how long is it going to take for our elected idiots to do something about it? Let's see what Kevin McCarthy is made
of!
Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-
To me, even if the documents are not "as sensitive" and poor Joe didn't "do it on purpose," it shows that Biden could be just as irresponsible
as Trump, and that it "could possibly happen" to several others besides Trump.
On 01-15-23 10:12, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Joe's Docs <=-
It is also not clear that Biden knew the documents were stored where
they were. I doubt that he is the one who packed them up or that he had reviewed the contents of the boxes. Someone did that, but we don't know
who and what experience they had.
That opens a different can of worms... that would mean that Biden entrusted them to someone who didn't know better than to store them in Biden's garage. Someone dumb enough to think that was "secure"
probably didn't have the proper clearance, or instruction, to be
handling or storing documents.
It also means Biden never followed-up to see what this person (if not himself) might have done with them... if they were dumb enough to lock them in the garage, that would certainly seem like a necessary step.
If "someone else" thought putting them there was a good idea, I would question whether that "someone else" was even a government employee.
To me, even if the documents are not "as sensitive" and poor Joe didn't "do it on purpose," it shows that Biden could be just as irresponsible as Trump, and that it "could possibly happen" to several others besides Trump.
What it's actually highlighting is the two-tired system of justice that we currently have.
Your statement makes the assumption that the person who stored the boxes
knew that they contained classified documents. It is quite possible
that they did not know that.
Why is it dumb to store boxes of personal documents in a locked garage?
If "someone else" thought putting them there was a good idea, I would question whether that "someone else" was even a government employee.
Why? Again, you have made assumptions about knowledge of the fact that
they included classified documents. You may well be right that they
were not a government employee, but rather an employee of the think tank where Biden was working. Since Biden was not a government employee at
the time, it is implausible that he would task one to perform such
storage duties.
I doubt that either Biden or Trump belived that where the documents were found was secure. IMO, Trump did not care.
But has he been tried yet? Trump claims that his documents were declassi while the media and guys like Adam Schiff claim otherwise.
Their claim was that he "declassified" them after he left office, which
is I do not think is possible to legally do.
But has he been tried yet?
Only in the court of public opinion. But the Dems don't care about a
real trial. They only care about causing enough distration from their
own crimes.
On 01-16-23 09:17, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Joe's Docs <=-
Your statement makes the assumption that the person who stored the boxes knew that they contained classified documents. It is quite possible
that they did not know that.
Why is it dumb to store boxes of personal documents in a locked garage?
If they didn't know the documents were classified, then someone
goofed.
That would indicate that Joe took them home, lost track of
them, and then they later got boxed up with other "personal documents."
I work for the government, that is a no-no.
For example, storing data that contain Federal Tax Information with
data that does not makes all of the data FTI.
Since we are talking about classified, *government* documents, Joe (or
his team) should not have been tasking the filing/storage of
classified, *government* documents to someone who was not aware and/or
was not properly trained in how to handle them.
Irresponsible Joe probably told someone to "put these boxes in the garage."
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-
Some of the media has been kind enough to cover the Biden document scandal, in a biased/Trump-focused way of course, but surely this can't
be the end of their relationship with the Democrat party, or even with Biden.
They've got until November of next year to repair Joe's image, and I'm confident that they can do it. "Trump associate planted the documents
in Joe's garage," and "Trump caused the border crisis" might do the
trick.
Mike Powell wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-
Irresponsible Joe probably told someone to "put these boxes in the garage."
Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-
Who had what to gain by hoarding documents?
Did any foreign entity
benefit from the info contained in Biden's hoard, or from Trump's
hoard?
Alternatively, did the American people have anything to gain by
either gentleman hoarding documents?
(Hopefully these questions get
answered or at least asked in the near future!)
Some of the media has been kind enough to cover the Biden document scandal, in a biased/Trump-focused way of course, but surely this can be the end of their relationship with the Democrat party, or even wit Biden.
Probably not. They are using this to bolster their flagging ratings.
For example, storing data that contain Federal Tax Information with
data that does not makes all of the data FTI.
I do not believe that. I have FTI documents in my closet along with documents relating to my time in government service and personal family matters.
Since we are talking about classified, *government* documents, Joe (or his team) should not have been tasking the filing/storage of
classified, *government* documents to someone who was not aware and/or was not properly trained in how to handle them.
Again, assuming that Biden or his team knew that they contained
classified information.
On 01-17-23 17:22, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Joe's Docs <=-
For example, storing data that contain Federal Tax Information with data that does not makes all of the data FTI.
I do not believe that. I have FTI documents in my closet along with documents relating to my time in government service and personal family matters.
Except it is true. Part of what makes data/documents FTI is that they came from the IRS. If they are your own federal tax returns or other information not supplied by the IRS then they are more likely PII -
personal identifying information. So long as it is your information,
you can put that anywhere you want (although I wouldn't). If you are entrusted to be handling someone else's PII, there are likely
restrictions placed by whatever entity entrusted you to do so.
Outside of documents you or family members may have received from the
IRS in regards to yourselves, I somehow doubt you have actual
IRS-supplied FTI in your personal home.
Mixing FTI data with any other data makes all of the data FTI when it comes to protection requirements.
That is true. None of us really know yet exactly how the classified documents were brought to Biden, nor why, and even whether or not Biden ever saw them. We need to wait for the special counsel to determine
those things.
On 01-20-23 06:12, Bj”rn Felten <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Joe's Docs -- AKA the GOP <=-
How in Heaven's Name can this compare to what Trump has
done? Trump even, in his panic, has posted admissions that
any prosecutor (not bought by the MAGA cult) can use as
evidence against him!
Dale Shipp -> Mike Powell skrev 2023-01-16 23:57:
That is true. None of us really know yet exactly how the classified documents were brought to Biden, nor why, and even whether or not Bid ever saw them. We need to wait for the special counsel to determine those things.
You seem to be the only sane person remaining here (after Jeff and
Rebecca left), so let me ask you the question that the rest of the world(?) is having:
How in Heaven's Name can this compare to what Trump has done? Trump
even, in
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President at will.
any prosecutor (not bought by the MAGA cult) can use as
evidence against him!
I have seen many pundits listing a comparison of the two cases. One distinction is that the Biden team is cooperationg with the Archives and DOJ, whereas Trump did not.
What do you mean by "cooperating" though? Did Trump resist arrest or refuse to answer questions?
Did Biden willingly lead authorities to the sites of his other
document hordes, or did they have to find them without his assistance?
And then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found the documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
On 01-21-23 12:29, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Bj”rn Felten about Re: Joe's Docs -- AKA the <=-
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President at will.
Worse yet, additional documents were found after the first ones were discovered.
Then Biden comes out and says he has "no regrets" about the matter.
Joe Biden is a certifiable imbecile...
On 01-21-23 16:22, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Joe's Docs -- AKA th <=-
I have seen many pundits listing a comparison of the two cases. One distinction is that the Biden team is cooperationg with the Archives and DOJ, whereas Trump did not.
What do you mean by "cooperating" though? Did Trump resist arrest or refuse to answer questions?
Did Biden willingly lead authorities to the sites of his other
document hordes, or did they have to find them without his assistance?
And then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found the documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
On 01-22-23 02:14, Bj”rn Felten <=-
spoke to Gregory Deyss about Joe's Docs -- AKA the GOP <=-
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President at will.
So that's the reason? You actually believe that lie,
without even trying to look up the fact?
NO, OF COURSE THE POTUS HAS NO SUCH AUTHORITY! Not even
Hitler or Stalin or any other megalomaniacs in the world
did. Jeezzz, man, what crazy MAGA fascist world are you
living in?
NO, OF COURSE THE POTUS HAS NO SUCH AUTHORITY! Not even Hitler or
Did Biden willingly lead authorities to the sites of his other document hordes, or did they have to find them without his assistance? And then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found the documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
idenDid Biden willingly lead authorities to the sites of his other
document hordes, or did they have to find them without his assistance? And then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found the documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
There is nothing similar between what Donald Trump has done and what Joe
as done.
Donald Trump is a criminal. Joe Biden is a president.
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President at will.
So that's the reason? You actually believe that lie, without even trying to look up the fact?
NO, OF COURSE THE POTUS HAS NO SUCH AUTHORITY! Not even Hitler or Stalin or any other megalomaniacs in the world did. Jeezzz, man, what crazy MAGA fascist world are you living in?
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President at will.
He had the authority, but he did not do it. If he had done so, then
they would have been marked as declassified and the original classification crossed out. Even so, he still did not have authority to keep them -- they belonged to the US Government.
Worse yet, additional documents were found after the first ones were
discovered.
Then Biden comes out and says he has "no regrets" about the matter.
Joe Biden is a certifiable imbecile...
Biden asked DOJ to come to his house and search. I would say that classifies as cooperating.
Compare that to Trump's actions where he certified that no classified documents still existed in his possession.
He knew that was a lie, and it took a warrant for the FBI to come and find them.
What do you mean by "cooperating" though? Did Trump resist arrest or
refuse to answer questions?
Trump was asked to return many of those documents but he never did. Instead
he had his layer sign a declaration that all these documents had been returned when in fact they had not.
Donald Trump is a liar, has always been a liar, and will always be a liar.
I think the DOJ/FBI are still looking for missing documents.
Did Biden willingly lead authorities to the sites of his other
document hordes, or did they have to find them without his assistance?
And then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found the
documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
There is nothing similar between what Donald Trump has done and what Joe Biden has done.
Donald Trump is a criminal. Joe Biden is a president.
How in Heaven's Name can this compare to what Trump has done? Trump
even, in
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President at will.
Biden as VP did not have any such authority, nor could he of obtained any such permissions as VP to declassify documents.
Worse yet, additional documents were found after the first ones were discovered.
Then Biden comes out and says he has "no regrets" about the matter.
Joe Biden is a certifiable imbecile...
Trump had the authority to declassify documents as President GD>at will.
So that's the reason?
You actually believe that lie, without even trying to look up the fact?
NO, OF COURSE THE POTUS HAS NO SUCH AUTHORITY!
Not even Hitler or Stalin or any other megalomaniacs in the world did.
Jeezzz, man, what crazy MAGA fascist world are you living in?
Biden asked DOJ to come to his house and search. I would say that classifies as cooperating.
3. Why are we hearing about Biden's classified documents, allegedly first discovered days before the midterm election, only NOW? When you put thentire
What do you mean by "cooperating" though? Did Trump resist arrest or refuse to answer questions?
There was no arrest. Trump claimed that he had no classified documents even though he knew that he did. That is not cooperating.
And then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found the documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
More like, "now that my people found the documents, I'm going to
cooperate with you".
On 01-22-23 17:53, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Joe's Docs -- AKA th <=-
On 22 Jan 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...
Biden asked DOJ to come to his house and search. I would say that classifies as cooperating.
Oh stop it, Biden did no such thing.
1. I doubt very highly Biden even remembers where he used to live.
2. Why would he call about documents that he didn't know were missing.
3. Why are we hearing about Biden's classified documents, allegedly
first discovered days before the midterm election, only NOW? When you
put the entire story up on a timeline, it reveals something deeper, bigger, and more nefarious. It tells you a story the mainstream media
and the White House DON'T want you to know and opens up new questions
of corruption, cover-up, and potential election interference.
Obama also took 30 Million documents back to Chicago too, it just
seems there is a political double-standard when it comes to Donald
Trump because peoples feelings have been hurt or shocked with the blunt manner how Trump has talked.
Compared to Biden who has put in his mouth many times and has produced more Presidential gaffes then all of the previous Presidents combined.
To spite this geriatric fool, I ask you what has Biden accomplished?
There was no need for the raid at Mar a lago, when Donald Trump was working with the office for document retrieval.
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3. Why are we hearing about Biden's classified documents, allegedly first discovered days before the midterm election, only NOW? When you put the
Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-
Biden didn't lead authorities. Biden's lawyers apparently came across
the original stash at the think tank. Not 100% sure who then came
across the stash at the house but it was not the authorities.
Mike Powell wrote to ALAN IANSON <=-
Donald Trump is a criminal. Joe Biden is a president.
Biden was NOT President when the documents were taken to the think tank
or his home. That is one thing that is not similar.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
Your response is so full of mis-information, slander and conspiracy speculations that it is not worth any comment.
The fact that STILL more documents were found yesterday..
Is that worthy of commenting on?
Initially, "the authorities" decided to stay out of it and trust that Biden's lawyers will find and turn them all over. Now apparently
Biden's team has request that the authorities come in and search. That
is smart on their part, especially since Joe acting like there were no more could have lead to a lot of trouble.
3. Why are we hearing about Biden's classified documents,
allegedly first discovered days before the midterm election, only
NOW? When you put the
Did you notice that the Biden Document Mishandling came out shortly
after the Twitter Document drops finished?
Nothing like a scandal to distract away from a major illegal action by
the Democrats.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
Your response is so full of mis-information, slander and conspiracy speculations that it is not worth any comment.
The fact that STILL more documents were found yesterday..
Is that worthy of commenting on?
Remember that to people like Dale, right = left, good = evil, etc.
So "mis-information" = "truth".
Hmm, but the FBI (according to Fox News) found more documents at Biden's home yesterday. The other problem with this "Biden cooperates" statement is that Biden is the only person in that household who ever had access to classified documents from the National Archives, and he's playing dumb about it all. By moving national secrets from a National Arhcives facility to his beach house, that's not how cooperation with the American people works.
It's smart on the part of the lawyers, but it's not smart on the part of the the authorities to "trust lawyers" to search for documents that they (lawyers) have no authority to view.
On 01-22-23 16:59, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Joe's Docs -- AKA th <=-
What do you mean by "cooperating" though? Did Trump resist arrest or refuse to answer questions?
There was no arrest. Trump claimed that he had no classified documents even though he knew that he did. That is not cooperating.
If there was no arrest, then how do we know that he did anything
wrong?
Hmm, but the FBI (according to Fox News) found more documents at
Biden's home yesterday. The other problem with this "Biden cooperates"
statement is that Biden is the only person in that household who ever
had access to classified documents from the National Archives, and he's playing dumb about it all. By moving national secrets from a National Arhcives facility to his beach house, that's not how cooperation with
the American people works.
On 01-23-23 06:43, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Joe's Docs -- AKA th <=-
On 23 Jan 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...
Your response is so full of mis-information, slander and conspiracy speculations that it is not worth any comment.
The fact that STILL more documents were found yesterday..
Is that worthy of commenting on?
Why would he call about documents that he didn't know were missing
On 01-23-23 18:06, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Ron L. about Re: Joe's Docs -- AKA th <=-
I think he could of been more annoyed when I provided the response to
his comment to where Biden allegedly telling the search team w/ where
to look within his home. Than I came back with "Biden does not
remember where home is."
or it could've of been my comment that Obama took 30+
million documents back to
Chicago.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dr. What <=-
Joe's Memory has been an issue from the very start.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-
It's smart on the part of the lawyers, but it's not smart on the part
of the the authorities to "trust lawyers" to search for documents that they (lawyers) have no authority to view.
Mike Miller wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-
I could think of a hundred other things that would pull attention away from the "twitter documents" that didn't politically damage Biden. the DNC is stupid, but it's not that stupid.
MSNBC (???!!!) had some fun with one of Biden's spokespersons recently. Apparently the spokesperson said they were cooperating with the DOJ to determine how the documents came to be in the Biden house. The interviewer pointed out that Biden himself would have been the only one that might have had clearance, so shouldn't the DOJ be asking Joe
instead of Joe's team waiting for the DOJ to determine how they got
there?
You are confused. No one moved documents from a National Archives facility. The documents that were discovered had been moved from
various offices previously occupied by Biden. It has not been said who actually moved them.
Why not wait until the SC does his investigation and announces his findings, rather than casting stones when you don't know the facts.
When cops find drugs at a drug dealer's house, they don't do an investigation into who brought the drugs to the house; they just blame
and arrest whoever's home at the time of the raid.
There shouldn't be a double standard for segregationists.
It's smart on the part of the lawyers, but it's not smart on the part of the the authorities to "trust lawyers" to search for documents tha they (lawyers) have no authority to view.
Wait a sec... Do these lawyers have Classified clearance? If they are purposely looking for classified documents, they might be committing crime.
When cops find drugs at a drug dealer's house, they don't do an investigation into who brought the drugs to the house; they just blame and arrest whoever's home at the time of the raid.
Why would he call about documents that he didn't know were missing
I have no idea what you are talking about.
There shouldn't be a double standard for segregationists.
Who are these segregationists you speak of?
When cops find drugs at a drug dealer's house, they don't do an investig into who brought the drugs to the house; they just blame and arrest whoe home at the time of the raid.
They are probably playing "we don't know how they got there" so they can, in turn, eventually blame "the Russians" for planting the documents in Biden's garage.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-
The DOJ should cut through all the BS & just ask Joe who he was
planning to sell the information to. But straight-forwardedness is too much to expect.
or it could've of been my comment that Obama took 30+
million documents back to
Chicago.
What sort of documents? If you are claiming that they were
classified, then you are scooping all of the media -- except that
would be alternative facts.
arrest orWhat do you mean by "cooperating" though? Did Trump resist
refuse to answer questions?
There was no arrest. Trump claimed that he had no classifieddocuments
even though he knew that he did. That is not cooperating.
If there was no arrest, then how do we know that he did anything wrong?
theAnd then Biden comes out of a closet to say "Now that you found
documents I mishandled, I'm gonna cooperate with ya?"
More like, "now that my people found the documents, I'm going to
cooperate with you".
Hmm, but the FBI (according to Fox News) found more documents at Biden's home yesterday.
The other problem with this "Biden cooperates" statement is that
Biden is the only person in that household who ever had access to classified
documents from the National Archives, and he's playing dumb about it all.
By moving national secrets from a National Arhcives facility to his beach house, that's not how cooperation with the American people works.
Earlier today Dan Bongino said something along the lines of "while investigators were searching for clues in the Trump-Russia probe, they inadvertantly discovered information tying Joe and Hunter to an influence peddling scheme, and that this may have something to do with the document shenanigans.
I hope I understood that correctly, but I might not have. (It was AM radio.)
The DOJ should cut through all the BS & just ask Joe who he was planning to sell the information to. But straight-forwardedness is to much to expect.
But asking Joe anything, and expecting an honest and coherent answer, it simply not possible.
Trump is the guy who has never fully cooperated -
with anybody - and refuses to tell the truth.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-
I was definitely wrong to say "Ask Joe," and in reality, the DOJ
already knows about Joe's influence peddling.
Only congress can help us
now, but I just hope they hurry up. The house can flip again next year, and time is ticking.
Trump is the guy who has never fully cooperated -
with anybody - and refuses to tell the truth.
This might come as a shock just because you lefties say things like this..
It doesn't make it remotely true.
Trump was not only cooperating he was actively working with the office and returning documents, many he declassified and Yes, he had the authority to do that, all Presidents have this Presidential Authority and Executive Privilege.
So why the raid at Mar-a-logo, it was clearly a political hit, perhaps it helped to clear to some extent to that tinge of pain in the throats of these losers who lost repeatedly to Trump when he was President.
I think there are much bigger issues for discussion, like why in the hell is
a dozen of eggs eight dollars+, bacon astronomical too, in fact food prices
generally speaking are way way up. Food costs were never this high when Donald Trump was President.
Before you ask if I could do better then Biden, the answer is a H-U-G-E YES.
I would do more in one day then Joe Biden has attempted to do in the last six months.
It would start with real fair & equal trade or there would be no deal.
All U.S. Military personal being held in a foreign land would return to the
U.S.
(long before I would make a deal for a POS female basketball player)
This, I can guarantee you.
seriously wrong with you. Either you don't understand or it is a
diagnosis of brain damage that will be within your future.
Still yet it could be of a deliberate nature.
Regardless the cause, you should know that stupidity always has a cost.
Hello Greg,Yes, I know all about Nixon and what happened, this is what they
The law did not apply to Nixon, but it was enacted *because of* Nixon,
Not really sure how Gerald Ford got off the hook. Probably due to some kind of special deal made that has yet to be revealed.
Imposing tariffs on goods from outside the USA is like shootingIf the tariffs were not equal then I would create a National infinitive to produce here within the U.S. anything that is desired. There was a time when
yourself in the foot. Goods exported from the USA would be subject
to tariffs, and not be able to be sold. Therefore, jobs would be
lost, and our own economy would falter.
Do you also hate the president's press secretary, who is also lesbian?I was not aware she was a lesbian, does not change my mind in either
She certainly makes no apologies for being who and what she is. And she has done an incredibly great job, explaining the administration's point
of view to the press (not an easy task for anybody).
Leaving American citizens wrongfully detained to rot in a RussianUnless you member of the U.S. Military, he did for his base and not for the American People.
gulag is not an option for President Biden, or any other president regardless of party.
Hello Greg,
Trust me - no leftie will ever even think of saying the things
like the claims of lunatic fringe far-right extremists.
Trust me - no leftie will ever even think of saying the things
like the claims of lunatic fringe far-right extremists.
With every element of woke-ism that exists, you and left minded friends own
that 100%
Hello Greg,You really shouldn't thank me. It is obvious that there is something
Trust me - no leftie will ever even think of saying the things
like the claims of lunatic fringe far-right extremists.
With every element of woke-ism that exists, you and left minded frienown
that 100%
Thank you for the compliment.
And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to
eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative
consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like Maxine Waters).
After all, if there are no negativeor George Santos.
consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like Maxine Waters).
And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to
eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative
consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for
people like Maxine Waters).
or George Santos. (or whatever his name is this week)
After all, if there are no negative consequences,I am just amazed how much play the woke madness gets acted upon.
people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like
Maxine Waters).
On 02-02-23 07:30, Ron Lauzon <=-
spoke to Gregory Deyss about Re: Real Issues <=-
Regardless the cause, you should know that stupidity always has a cost.
And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to
eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like
Maxine Waters).
And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative consequence people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like Maxine Waters).
Or Donald Trump, George Santos, and a few other current members of the house.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-
I am just amazed how much play the woke madness gets acted upon.
Is it out of fear or ignorance maybe it is a bit of both?
How many liberties or freedoms do I have to give up for
someone to have something that they never had in first place?
Dale Shipp wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-
Regardless the cause, you should know that stupidity always has a cost.
And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to
eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like
Maxine Waters).
Or Donald Trump, George Santos, and a few other current members of the house.
And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard to
eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative
consequences, people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for
people like Maxine Waters).
or George Santos. (or whatever his name is this week)
BTW, Direct TV canceling Newsmax is censorship, I have *also* canceled my Direct TV account due to this.
Regardless the cause, you should know that stupidity always has acost.
And it's interesting how certain groups are working very hard toconsequences,
eliminate that cost. After all, if there are no negative
people will continue to do it (you know, like vote for people like
Maxine Waters).
Or Donald Trump, George Santos, and a few other current members of the house.
I think it is obvious or at least it should be as to why Donald Trump was and
is so popular.
He was the first to talk about and even rage about America being ripped off.
Why didn't anyone else mention this, or do anything about it?
Could it be because they were on the take to enrich themselves.
He also spoke about "America First"
I have no idea why the left thinks of this as a problem.
Donald Trump spoke nearly identical to the way that most of us think inside
our own heads.
I also voted for Obama the first time he ran, he sounded like "wow" I was inspired and excited for "hope and change" but in many respects he was a firework that was really nothing more than a dud - a firework that never took
off.
On 02-02-23 23:32, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Ron Lauzon about Re: Real Issues <=-
For years lefty analogies and other so called facts told us that
Robert Mueller and his cast of 13 thieving democrats were so sure that there was Russian interference from Donald Trump and his associates.
There was more BS regarding Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Congress this was also proven to be unfounded due to Donald Trump being
acquitted twice.
Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely
political result -- and was anticipated.
What the Mueller group investigated and provided evidence for is the
fact that members of the Trump group communicated with Russian agents. They also investigated and provided evidence for the fact that Russia attempted to influence the 2016 election in favor of Trump.
not conclude that their attempt actually tipped the scales to have a significant effect in Trump's favor.
Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely political result -- and was anticipated.
There was more BS regarding Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Congress this was also proven to be unfounded due to Donald Trump being
acquitted twice.
Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely
political result -- and was anticipated.
There was more BS regarding Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Congress
this was also proven to be unfounded due to Donald Trump being
acquitted twice.
Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely
political result -- and was anticipated.
Much as his impeachments prove nothing other than the fact that the Democratic house voted to impeach. It was a purely political result -- and
was anticipated.
Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely
political result -- and was anticipated.
You're being purposefully dishonest, lets remember correctly shall we?
Who was it that brought these articles of impeachment to bare.
The Democrats...
Why did they bring them forward at all.
78% of voters in George Santos' district want him to resign
from Congress. Why? Because he lied, about everything, when he
ran for office. And he continues to lie, about everything, to
this day.
On 02-04-23 10:51, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Real Issues <=-
Trump's acquittals proved nothing other than the fact that The
Republican Senate caucus voted in Trump's favor. It was a purely political result -- and was anticipated.
You're being purposefully dishonest, lets remember correctly shall we?
Who was it that brought these articles of impeachment to bare.
The Democrats...
Why did they bring them forward at all.
What the Mueller group investigated and provided evidence for is the
fact that members of the Trump group communicated with Russian agents. They also investigated and provided evidence for the fact that Russia attempted to influence the 2016 election in favor of Trump.
Are you forgetting about the connection w/ the Hillary connection and
the MI6 that provided the fake Russian Dossier?
By the Way
Mr Mueller reiterated that in a rare statement following the end of
the inquiry and said legal guidelines prevent the indictment of a
sitting president. He said if his team had had confidence that Mr Trump "clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so".
78% of voters in George Santos' district want him to resign
from Congress. Why? Because he lied, about everything, when he
ran for office. And he continues to lie, about everything, to
this day.
I'm in his district. I voted for him. And I'd vote for him again.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
You're being purposefully dishonest, lets remember correctly shall we?
Are you forgetting about the connection w/ the Hillary connection and
the MI6 that provided the fake Russian Dossier?
There was a vote and the Dems lost, bitching about it won't change
that. I do think it's comical to be upset with losing, when from the
very start of this it was very much a Democratic circus that was and continuously is corrupt.
What this was nothing more then a bunch of Sour Grapes.
It was a "hoax" perpetuated by conspirators and Democrats who are sore that Clinton lost to him, Trump says, and who have been consequently running a "witch hunt" against him.
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