On 12-04-22 09:23, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Ye <=-
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Muslim rights are human rights!
I hope you are very much aware that many within the Muslim extremest
cast, Would chop off your head, without hesitation simply because your
an American citizen, and live in The United States of America. You
might want think before you lose such an ability to think, as it
were...
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On 12-04-22 09:23, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Ye <=-
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Muslim rights are human rights!
I hope you are very much aware that many within the Muslim extremest cast, Would chop off your head, without hesitation simply because you an American citizen, and live in The United States of America. You might want think before you lose such an ability to think, as it were...
Your point is what? You describe a group of terrorists who are a treat, but are also a very small percentage of the muslims in the world (and in the USA). You blame them all for the transgressions of a very few. Your statement would be about as true if instead of "Muslim extremest cast"
you had said "White Nationalist Milita cult".
What is the number where you conclude a few too many?
Gregory Deyss -> Dale Shipp skrev 2022-12-07 03:32:
What is the number where you conclude a few too many?
It sure as hell takes more than 19 out of 1.97 billion adherents, making up about 25% of the world population.
(Just as you have summarized from above it was only 19 out of 1.97 billion)
I think it is a matter of time before the ways of world will have a revelation
that will clearly indicate what was introduced in the before time was barbaric
and then we all can return to a time of peace and tranquility.
(Just as you have summarized from above it was only 19 out of 1.97billion)
I think it is a matter of time before the ways of world will have a
revelation
that will clearly indicate what was introduced in the before time was
barbaric
and then we all can return to a time of peace and tranquility.
Unless you've been living in a cave the last year, you should already have witnessed how more than 300 thousand Christians invaded a peaceful country,
committing the worst war crimes the world has ever seen.
On 12-10-22 04:12, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Bj”rn Felten about Re: Muslims <=-
It sure as hell takes more than 19 out of 1.97 billion adherents, making up about 25% of the world population.
Your statement says nothing. Furthermore whomsoever makes up for the
other 75% (being non-muslium born) I have never heard of these peoples from ANY country deliberately crashing Jet-liners into buildings.
Here in America, African-Americans make up for 13.6% of the population does this mean that the rest of us, whomsoever makes up for the other 86.4% (being non-black born) have to put up with BLM, bail reform, repeated criminal offenses that in many cases are a -revolving door. Especially as seen in many Democratic Cities across the United States.
What has ever happened to accountability and living in peace?
I'll tell you what has happened the liberal-mind has crept it's way
into convincing others that their liberal polices and initiatives make
for good common sense when in fact they do nothing of the sort.
Since there is no current vaccine for stupid.
It sure as hell takes more than 19 out of 1.97 billion adherents, making up about 25% of the world population.
Your statement says nothing. Furthermore whomsoever makes up for the other 75% (being non-muslium born) I have never heard of these peoples from ANY country deliberately crashing Jet-liners into buildings.
While that is a true statement, it is only true because the 9/11 attack
is the only one of its kind that has happened.
The answer to BLM is that you and others should wake up and realize what
they are saying: namely that for far too long, black lives have not
mattered -- e.g. lynching, disportionate arrests and jail sentences,
housing discrimination, educational discrimination, and driving while
black.
On 12-11-22 09:59, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Muslims <=-
While that is a true statement, it is only true because the 9/11 attack
is the only one of its kind that has happened.
Not exactly true. With jets, yes, but 9/11 was not even the first
time the World Trade Center was attacked by muslim extremists. There
was an attempt 8 or so years before to bring them down by detonating
some car bombs in the garages underneath.
The answer to BLM is that you and others should wake up and realize what they are saying: namely that for far too long, black lives have not
mattered -- e.g. lynching, disproportionate arrests and jail sentences, housing discrimination, educational discrimination, and driving while
black.
Disportionate arrests happen because the persons commiting those
crimes are, in urban areas, disportionately black.
What is the number where you conclude a few too many?
It sure as hell takes more than 19 out of 1.97 billion adherents,
making up about 25% of the world population.
Your statement says nothing. Furthermore whomsoever makes up for the other 75% (being non-muslium born) I have never heard of these peoples from ANY country deliberately crashing Jet-liners into buildings.
Here in America, African-Americans make up for 13.6% of the population does
this mean that the rest of us, whomsoever makes up for the other 86.4% (being non-black born) have to put up with BLM, bail reform, repeated criminal offenses that in many cases are a -revolving door.
Especially as seen in many Democratic Cities across the United States.
What has ever happened to accountability and living in peace?
I'll tell you what has happened the liberal-mind has crept it's way into convincing others that their liberal polices and initiatives make for good common sense when in fact they do nothing of the sort.
Since there is no current vaccine for stupid.
(Just as you have summarized from above it was only 19 out of 1.97 billion)
I think it is a matter of time before the ways of world will have a revelation that will clearly indicate what was introduced in the before time was barbaric and then we all can return to a time of peace and tranquility.
While that is a true statement, it is only true because the 9/11 attack
is the only one of its kind that has happened.
Not exactly true. With jets, yes, but 9/11 was not even the first
time the World Trade Center was attacked by muslim extremists. There
was an attempt 8 or so years before to bring them down by detonating
some car bombs in the garages underneath.
That was done by the same group of muslim extremists.
It is true that there have been other bombings. I can recall that there was a building at University of Wisconsin, Madison that was bombed as a protest to Viet Nam War. That one is personal to me since I spent a lot of time in that building but left UW about a year before the bomb.
There was Timothy McVay who did a car bomb on an Oklahoma building which pretty much destroyed the building.
There was a bombing of the Boston Marathon by two people.
There may have been other bombings that don't come to mind right now.
I believe that all of these were done by white American citizens. None
of the other bombings approach the damage and loss of life that occurred for the 9/11 bombing of the World Trade center and the Pentagon.
The answer to BLM is that you and others should wake up and realize what
they are saying: namely that for far too long, black lives have not
mattered -- e.g. lynching, disproportionate arrests and jail sentences,
housing discrimination, educational discrimination, and driving while
black.
Disportionate arrests happen because the persons commiting those
crimes are, in urban areas, disportionately black.
Partly true, but look at the arrests and the term of jail time for cocaine. White people were the primary users of cocaine powder.
Black people mostly used crack cocaine.
The term of sentences for crack were larger than those for powder cocaine.
I don't know why, but that used to be true (but may have been modified to put penalty for each in parity).
While that is a true statement, it is only true because the 9/11 attack
is the only one of its kind that has happened.
Not exactly true. With jets, yes, but 9/11 was not even the first
time the World Trade Center was attacked by muslim extremists. There was an attempt 8 or so years before to bring them down by detonating some car bombs in the garages underneath.
That was done by the same group of muslim extremists.
There was a bombing of the Boston Marathon by two people.
There may have been other bombings that don't come to mind right now.
I believe that all of these were done by white American citizens. None
of the other bombings approach the damage and loss of life that occurred
for the 9/11 bombing of the World Trade center and the Pentagon.
Disportionate arrests happen because the persons commiting those
crimes are, in urban areas, disportionately black.
Partly true, but look at the arrests and the term of jail time for cocaine. White people were the primary users of cocaine powder. Black people mostly used crack cocaine. The term of sentences for crack were larger than those for powder cocaine. I don't know why, but that used to be true (but may have been modified to put penalty for each in parity).
Say wha'? Putin's army of 300,000 Christians cannot manage to conquer
a peaceful country of 43 million Christians? Talk about incompetent ...
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On 12-10-22 04:12, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Bj”rn Felten about Re: Muslims <=-
It sure as hell takes more than 19 out of 1.97 billion adherents, making up about 25% of the world population.
Your statement says nothing. Furthermore whomsoever makes up for the other 75% (being non-muslium born) I have never heard of these people from ANY country deliberately crashing Jet-liners into buildings.
While that is a true statement, it is only true because the 9/11 attack
is the only one of its kind that has happened.
Here in America, African-Americans make up for 13.6% of the populatio does this mean that the rest of us, whomsoever makes up for the other 86.4% (being non-black born) have to put up with BLM, bail reform, repeated criminal offenses that in many cases are a -revolving door. Especially as seen in many Democratic Cities across the United States
The answer to BLM is that you and others should wake up and realize what they are saying: namely that for far too long, black lives have not mattered -- e.g. lynching, disportionate arrests and jail sentences, housing discrimination, educational discrimination, and driving while black.
What has ever happened to accountability and living in peace?
Good point. When can the black people have that?
Ok.. End the social & economic programs, and other handouts for the downtrodden.I'll tell you what has happened the liberal-mind has crept it's way into convincing others that their liberal polices and initiatives make for good common sense when in fact they do nothing of the sort.
It makes good common sense that all people should be treated equally and
to realize that it is not yet the case that they are.
It may surprise you I am not registered as a Republican, and I sure as hellSince there is no current vaccine for stupid.
Tell that to some of your Republican politicians.
Cocaine is cocaine, whether in crack form or powder form.
But is easier to distribute if in crack form.
Ten parts crack form weighs the same as one part powder form.
But if carrying ten parts then can be charged with intent to distribute rather than simple possession. Ergo, harsher sentence.
On 12-17-22 12:36, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Muslims <=-
It sure as hell takes more than 19 out of 1.97 billion adherents,
making up about 25% of the world population.
Your statement says nothing. Furthermore whomsoever makes up for the
other 75% (being non-muslium born) I have never
heard of these people
from ANY country deliberately crashing Jet-liners into buildings.
While that is a true statement, it is only true because the 9/11 attack
is the only one of its kind that has happened.
How many attacks do we need before we seriously question with a stern
gaze and have the dialog that is very much necessary that would keep
these people out. Killing of the innocent must not be tolerated. The
The answer to BLM is that you and others should wake up and realize what they are saying: namely that for far too long, black lives have not mattered -- e.g. lynching, disportionate arrests and jail sentences, housing discrimination, educational discrimination, and driving while black.
I think your exaggerating more then just a little bit.
Life is what you make it, there have been many blacks that have come
from very poor backgrounds that have risen to become super rich.
Lynchings? Jim Crow era and all of those references of the past are
What has ever happened to accountability and living in peace?
Good point. When can the black people have that?
Do you really want to spell it out for you. Fine. Not a problem.
The accountability that I am talking about is free from screaming with rage and anger as you move down the street, it is also free from
smashing windows of businesses, it does not include uncontrolled fires that melt down a plastic trash cans to a puddle in the middle of the street. Nor does it include raiding
of department stores, in addition it need not cost millions of dollars
to put things back to the way they were, all because some people feel slighted for whatever the reason.
These types of disgusting behaviors have been unacceptable within a civilized society, for many many years.
Cut it out with the BLM crap
If cocaine is cocaine, then i need you to write a grant letter
requesting money so I can start a non profit organization to test the quality of the cocaine floating around the USA..
It sure as hell takes more than 19 out of 1.97 billion adherents,
making up about 25% of the world population.
How many attacks do we need before we seriously question with a stern gaze and have the dialog that is very much necessary that would keep these people out.
Killing of the innocent must not be tolerated.
The penalty must be severe.
Specially if you wish to bring harm to people that do not follow your barbaric teachings and to be blunt f*cked up philosophical ideas.
The answer to BLM is that you and others should wake up and realize
what
they are saying: namely that for far too long, black lives have not
mattered -- e.g. lynching, disportionate arrests and jail sentences,
housing discrimination, educational discrimination, and driving while
black.
I think your exaggerating more then just a little bit.
Life is what you make it, there have been many blacks that have come from very poor backgrounds that have risen to become super rich.
Lynchings? Jim Crow era and all of those references of the past are carefully
crafted comments all designed to do one thing and it has nothing to do with
helping Black people, but it does keep these useful idiots known as democrats
elected at every election cycle.
What has ever happened to accountability and living in peace?
Good point. When can the black people have that?
Do you really want to spell it out for you. Fine. Not a problem.
The accountability that I am talking about is free from screaming with rage
and anger as you move down the street, it is also free
These types of disgusting behaviors have been unacceptable within a civilized society, for many many years.
Cut it out with the BLM crap All Lives Matter.
I live in the city of Troy, New York, I co-exist with Black People everyday.
I recently moved to Troy from Nassau, NY 12123.
I introduced myself to my new neighbors who are black.
(it's just who I am.)
Not because I had to, but because I wanted to.
Why?
beyond the idea of just being friendly and neighborly.
I wanted them to know that they need not fear me but mostly not to think of
me as being someone that they should be suspicious about.
I know very well that this type thing is considered within certain circles of the black community, "oh he white".. and all of these lack of considerations that are beyond ridiculous things that are within the minds of some; such as White Privilege.
My neighbor on the other side is white, I was out in the backyard with my dog Rex the other neighbor had a raging fire within a hearth fireplace.
It looked very nice, so I motioned over to him with approval as I indicated
" hey I like that"..
He asked me, what my name was, and asked me did I just move in and then he gave his name then he said "Welcome to the Block."
I do miss Nassau but so far everything is going well and I am closer to things then ever before and I'm becoming a regular at the corner store.
Ok.. End the social & economic programs, and other handouts for the downtrodden. Programs like: WIC, HEAP, Food Stamps, SSI, Section 8 housing,
Cash Assistance, State Medicaid. As well end all grants targeted based on the color of ones skin. Talk about Racist....
They should do as I do.
Just like the majority of all of us do every single day.
You want something? Then work for it.
End the notion, that seems to say sitting on your porch steps all-day does not make you special.
Since there is no current vaccine for stupid.
Tell that to some of your Republican politicians.
It may surprise you I am not registered as a Republican, and I sure as hell
not a Democrat.
I am registered as a Conservative.
This... you should of known.
Cocaine is cocaine, whether in crack form or powder form.
But is easier to distribute if in crack form.
Ten parts crack form weighs the same as one part powder form.
But if carrying ten parts then can be charged with intent to distribute
rather than simple possession. Ergo, harsher sentence.
If cocaine is cocaine, then i need you to write a grant letter requesting money so I can start a non profit organization to test the quality of the cocaine floating around the USA..
We need somebody we can trust; Hunter's not telling us where to get the be stuff, and you know that bas**** knows *precisely* where it's at. The Bide are good for NOTHING.
On 12-17-22 12:36, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Muslims <=-
How many attacks do we need before we seriously question with a stern gaze and have the dialog that is very much necessary that would keep these people out. Killing of the innocent must not be tolerated. The
Just what do you mean by "these people"? I have doubts that you are limiting your statement to just the terrorists who commit such an act -- but expand it to all muslims.
forced DS> to live in.The answer to BLM is that you and others should wake up and realize wh they are saying: namely that for far too long, black lives have not mattered -- e.g. lynching, disportionate arrests and jail sentences, housing discrimination, educational discrimination, and driving while black.
I think your exaggerating more then just a little bit.
Life is what you make it, there have been many blacks that have come from very poor backgrounds that have risen to become super rich.
True, but many are ham-stringed by the environment they have been
Do you really want to spell it out for you. Fine. Not a problem.
The accountability that I am talking about is free from screaming wit rage and anger as you move down the street, it is also free from smashing windows of businesses, it does not include uncontrolled fire that melt down a plastic trash cans to a puddle in the middle of the street. Nor does it include raiding
of department stores, in addition it need not cost millions of dollar to put things back to the way they were, all because some people feel slighted for whatever the reason.
And there you go again, blaming a large segment of Americans for what
some have done. So instead, find and prosecute those who are guilty.
Cut it out with the BLM crap
So long as you call it crap, you do not understand what they are saying.
On 12-23-22 01:13, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Muslims <=-
Just what do you mean by "these people"? I have doubts that you are limiting your statement to just the terrorists who commit such an act -- but expand it to all muslims.
How do you think "the terrorists" gained access in the first place, no alarm bells went off with getting lessons on how to fly a jet liner?
No one checked their background histories before being allowed in the U.S.?
Perhaps it was a a breakdown of communication or maybe it was because
no one dared to have them under any kind of surveillance for fear that they would be judged; as your judging me for referring to them as
"these people" Perhaps they too, did not want to looked at strangely
for being what would be labeled as overly suspicious.
You're are dam right that I refer to them as "these people."
If more people did then perhaps the chaos and the slaughter could of
been averted.
The answer to BLM is that you and others should wake up and realize what they are saying: namely that for far too long, black lives have not mattered -- e.g. lynching, disproportionate arrests and jail sentences, housing discrimination, educational discrimination, and driving while black.
I think your exaggerating more then just a little bit.
Life is what you make it, there have been many blacks that have come
from very poor backgrounds that have risen to become super rich.
True, but many are ham-stringed by the environment they have been
forced to live in.
Who is forcing anyone to live poor conditions w/ squalor and filth? Ham-stringed you say? It sounds like a convenient excuse that is all
too often mentioned. I do not force people to live like this, they are
as free to do as much or as little as they desire, just as I am.
You are talking like such peoples have a economic handicap. It may surprise you that people choose to live like this, where I do obviously not. why is that?
Black People have social programs that lend themselves to handouts and don't even get me started on affirmative action. I do not need any of these motivations to maintain my lifestyle that I desire. why is that?
Cut it out with the BLM crap
So long as you call it crap, you do not understand what they are saying.
Perhaps you are unaware of Patrisse Cullors or even know that she
lives in a multi-million dollar gated white community with money that
she stole from BLM (she profited and benefited herself) with this money
& perhaps you do not know that she did not DO anything for these poor black communities that she was hollering and marching in? why is that?
Instead of looking at Trump's taxes maybe someone should look at hers.
That is not what I am saying, but you already knew that. What should be abundantly obvious was that there was no pause with these particular set of circumstances. It wouldn't be beyond the norm to stop and think about it.On 12-23-22 01:13, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Muslims <=-
Just what do you mean by "these people"? I have doubts that you are limiting your statement to just the terrorists who commit such an act but expand it to all muslims.
How do you think "the terrorists" gained access in the first place, n alarm bells went off with getting lessons on how to fly a jet liner?
And your answer would be "don't allow anyone to learn how to fly"?
the DS> GD> U.S.?No one checked their background histories before being allowed in
It's called clearance.Do you know that did not happen? Who would you cause to be checked.
What we have here is a failure to understand. Your language implies that you would put restrictions on all muslims. That is overkill. NextI do believe or at least I would like to think that the thought of these evil intentions would horrify most people and that most followers of Islam are peaceful, even kind and benevolent.
would be all Catholics (because of the Oklahoma bombing). When would
the restrictions get to you and me?
Who is forcing anyone to live poor conditions w/ squalor and filth? Ham-stringed you say? It sounds like a convenient excuse that is all too often mentioned. I do not force people to live like this, they are as free to do as much or as little as they desire, just as I am.Perhaps you as an individual do not, but for many society has put them into a situation that is not easy to get out of.
You are talking like such peoples have a economic handicap. It may surprise you that people choose to live like this, where I do obvious not. why is that?
Why do you think that they "choose"? I think that they are forced. And it is not easy to work their way out of that situation.
How do you think "the terrorists" gained access in the first place, no alarm bells went off with getting lessons on how to fly a jet liner?
And your answer would be "don't allow anyone to learn how to fly"?
There should have been some alarm bells that go off anytime anyone wants to
learn to take off and fly but does not care if they learn to land, which was the case for at least one of the 9/11 pilots.
You obviously have never tried to get a pilot's licence. I have it,
and I find your comment one of the most stupid and ignorant I have ever seen.
On 12-26-22 14:18, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Muslims <=-
How do you think "the terrorists" gained access in the first place, no alarm bells went off with getting lessons on how to fly a jet liner?
And your answer would be "don't allow anyone to learn how to fly"?
There should have been some alarm bells that go off anytime anyone
wants to learn to take off and fly but does not care if they learn to land, which was the case for at least one of the 9/11 pilots.
On 12-26-22 22:27, Bj”rn Felten <=-
spoke to Mike Powell about Muslims <=-
There should have been some alarm bells that go off
anytime anyone wants to
learn to take off and fly but does not care if they learn to land, which was the case for at least one of the 9/11 pilots.
You obviously have never tried to get a pilot's licence.
I have it, and I find your comment one of the most stupid
and ignorant I have ever seen.
I'm curious as to why you say that?
How do you think "the terrorists" gained access in the first place, no
alarm bells went off with getting lessons on how to fly a jet liner?
And your answer would be "don't allow anyone to learn how to fly"?
There should have been some alarm bells that go off anytime anyone wants to
learn to take off and fly but does not care if they learn to land, which was
the case for at least one of the 9/11 pilots.
There should have been some alarm bells that go off anytime anyonewants to
learn to take off and fly but does not care if they learn to land,which
was the case for at least one of the 9/11 pilots.
You obviously have never tried to get a pilot's licence.
I have it, and I find your comment one of the most stupid and ignorant I have ever seen.
There should have been some alarm bells that go off anytime anyone
wants to learn to take off and fly but does not care if they learn to land, which was the case for at least one of the 9/11 pilots.
That is one of the alarm bells that the pundits said should have gone
off. Question is: how does the government convince all instructors to
report such things to some authority?
There should have been some alarm bells that go off anytime anyone
wants to learn to take off and fly but does not care if they learn to
land, which was the case for at least one of the 9/11 pilots.
That is one of the alarm bells that the pundits said should have gone
off. Question is: how does the government convince all instructors to
report such things to some authority?
I assume they have to have a license, and that there are already some stipulations in place for keeping said license. One of them could be reporting suspicious activity.
There should have been some alarm bells that go off anytime anyone
wants to learn to take off and fly but does not care if they learn to
land, which was the case for at least one of the 9/11 pilots.
That is one of the alarm bells that the pundits said should have gone
off. Question is: how does the government convince all instructors to
report such things to some authority?
I assume they have to have a license, and that there are already some stipulations in place for keeping said license. One of them could be reporting suspicious activity.
On 12-28-22 13:58, Lee Lofaso <=-
spoke to Mike Powell about Muslims <=-
Hello Mike,
There should have been some alarm bells that go off anytime anyone
wants to learn to take off and fly but does not care if they learn to
land, which was the case for at least one of the 9/11 pilots.
That is one of the alarm bells that the pundits said should have gone
off. Question is: how does the government convince all instructors to
report such things to some authority?
I assume they have to have a license, and that there are already some stipulations in place for keeping said license. One of them could be reporting suspicious activity.
One does not need to have a license in order to take flying lessons,
or even be a US citizen.
toThere should have been some alarm bells that go off anytime anyone
wants to learn to take off and fly but does not care if they learn
land, which was the case for at least one of the 9/11 pilots.
That is one of the alarm bells that the pundits said should have gone
off. Question is: how does the government convince all instructors to
report such things to some authority?
I assume they have to have a license, and that there are already some
stipulations in place for keeping said license. One of them could be
reporting suspicious activity.
One does not need to have a license in order to take flying lessons,
or even be a US citizen.
The license being discussed is for the instructors.
Mike Powell -> DALE SHIPP skrev 2022-12-26 20:18:
There should have been some alarm bells that go off anytime anyone wato
learn to take off and fly but does not care if they learn to land, wh was the case for at least one of the 9/11 pilots.
You obviously have never tried to get a pilot's licence. I have it,
and I find your comment one of the most stupid and ignorant I have ever seen.
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On 12-26-22 14:18, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Muslims <=-
How do you think "the terrorists" gained access in the first place alarm bells went off with getting lessons on how to fly a jet line
And your answer would be "don't allow anyone to learn how to fly"?
There should have been some alarm bells that go off anytime anyone wants to learn to take off and fly but does not care if they learn to land, which was the case for at least one of the 9/11 pilots.
That is one of the alarm bells that the pundits said should have gone
off. Question is: how does the government convince all instructors to report such things to some authority?
On 12-31-22 09:32, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Muslims <=-
it would of been better to scrutinize
the validity of the documents that were used to provide entry to our country. It is beyond obvious that they were fraudulent.
A deeper dive was uncovered on these sickos, after the horror that was 9/11. It was realized who they were and where they came from.
Ya know, when you add in that sarcasm at the end and then I come back with a valid reason(s) It's as equivalent as a cream pie pie - right to the face.it would of been better to scrutinize
the validity of the documents that were used to provide entry to our country. It is beyond obvious that they were fraudulent.
How do you know that they were fraudulent? Or is that just another of your assumptions.
Yes due to the question. How could something like this of happened?A deeper dive was uncovered on these sickos, after the horror that was 9/11. It was realized who they were and where they came from.
Yes, after the fact.
it would of been better to scrutinize
the validity of the documents that were used to provide entry to our
country. It is beyond obvious that they were fraudulent.
How do you know that they were fraudulent?
Or is that just another of your assumptions.
A deeper dive was uncovered on these sickos, after the horror that GD>was9/11. It was realized who they were and where they came from.
Yes, after the fact.
ourit would of been better to scrutinize
the validity of the documents that were used to provide entry to
country. It is beyond obvious that they were fraudulent.
How do you know that they were fraudulent? Or is that just another of
your assumptions.
Ya know, when you add in that sarcasm at the end and then I come back with a
valid reason(s) It's as equivalent as a cream pie pie - right to the face.
In a word "Passports"
From the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks
https://tinyurl.com/yc2xbpdb
snip-it from this document states
"Two of the passports that have survived, those of Satam al Suqami and Abdul
Aziz al Omari, were clearly doctored. To avoid getting into the classified details, we will just state that these were manipulated in a fraudulent manner, in ways that have been associated with al Qaeda"
Another snip-it from the same document that is noteworthy
"National security concerns about foreign students are not new. By the late
1980s the INS had established a Student/School System to track students, but the system did not work.
After thant in the plot had been a student who had overstayed his visa, the
Department of Justice asked INS to devise a better way to track students.
INS officials recommended a new student tracking system and a student ID card that used biometric identifiers.
In 1996, Congress mandated a new system to be installed by 1998, without appropriating program funds.
The INS scraped together $10 million and piloted a successful student tracking program in the Atlanta area in June 1997, which included a flight school.
However, advocates of education interests argued that the program would be burdensome and costly. Upon the order of senior INS management, the project
manager was replaced. In 1998, INS indefinitely deferred testing of the biometric student ID card.
The program stalled. Senators declared an interest in repealing the 1996 law and sought to obstruct further INS funding for it.
Thus, when Atta and al Shehhi lied when questioned about their student status on their reentries in January 2001, and when Hanjour failed to show up for the school for which he was issued a visa in December 2000,
a student tracking system was far from available to immigration inspectors or agents."
wasA deeper dive was uncovered on these sickos, after the horror that
9/11. It was realized who they were and where they came from.
Yes, after the fact.
Yes due to the question. How could something like this of happened?
In pursuit of those questions many were able to learn the who, what and why.
Ya know, when you add in that sarcasm at the end and then I come back with a valid reason(s) It's as equivalent as a cream pie pie - right to the face.
In a word "Passports"
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, when it was discovered that a participant in the plot had been a student who had overstayed his visa,
The program stalled. Senators declared an interest in repealing the 1996
law and sought to obstruct further INS funding for it. Thus, when Atta and al Shehhi lied when questioned about their student status on their reentries in January 2001, and when Hanjour failed to show up for the school for which he was issued a visa in December 2000, a student tracking system was far from available to immigration inspectors or agents."
On 01-01-23 10:20, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Muslims <=-
it would of been better to scrutinize
the validity of the documents that were used to provide entry to our country. It is beyond obvious that they were fraudulent.
How do you know that they were fraudulent? Or is that just another of your assumptions.
Ya know, when you add in that sarcasm at the end and then I come back
with a valid reason(s) It's as equivalent as a cream pie pie - right to the face.
In a word "Passports"
From the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks https://tinyurl.com/yc2xbpdb
snip-it from this document states
"Two of the passports that have survived, those of Satam al Suqami and Abdul Aziz al Omari, were clearly doctored. To avoid getting into the classified details, we will just state that these were manipulated in a fraudulent manner, in ways that have been associated with al Qaeda"
On 01-01-23 23:46, Lee Lofaso <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Muslims <=-
A propaganda piece is not evidence of anything. There were no
surviving passports of any of the terrorists who slammed planes
into skyscrapers, as everybody on board was incinerated. Paper
burns, same as people.
Ya know, when you add in that sarcasm at the end and then I come back with
a
valid reason(s) It's as equivalent as a cream pie pie - right to the face.
In a word "Passports"
But, but, but immigrants shouldn't need any paperwork, or IDs!!! <sarcasm>
90yeah that is scary stuff, I love how some people view this type of attention
Ya know, when you add in that sarcasm at the end and then I come back wi valid reason(s) It's as equivalent as a cream pie pie - right to the fac
I was not involved in personnel or student registration, so I have no
idea for sure but, based on the reaction I was a part of, I somehow
doubt they also tightened any reporting requirements (if they had any!)
in regards to employees/students who hire-on/enroll with visas but
never, or stop, showing up.
But it is not propaganda if the information is from a official source.https://tinyurl.com/yc2xbpdb
snip-it from this document states
"Two of the passports that have survived, those of Satam al Suqami Aziz al Omari, were clearly doctored. To avoid getting into the class details, we will just state that these were manipulated in a fraudule manner, in ways that have been associated with al Qaeda"
This is clearly propaganda, as there were no surviving passports.
All 19 of the terrorists (and their possessions) were incinerated
when the planes crashed into tall buildings (or into a field in Pennsylvania).
The Rev. Louis Farrakhan told usYou never mind what the Rev. Louis Farrakhan has said
I was not involved in personnel or student registration, so I have no idea for sure but, based on the reaction I was a part of, I somehow doubt they also tightened any reporting requirements (if they had any!) in regards to employees/students who hire-on/enroll with visas but never, or stop, showing up.yeah that is scary stuff, I love how some people view this type of attention as racial profiling or at the very least view this as unnecessary scrutiny and disallow for any common sense.
Then there are the thinkers who know that something is not quite right and provide pause as they think things through. There is nothing with being vigilant, WE need not be labeled with derogatory names from the left or described w/ fancy five dollar words from a liberal.
https://tinyurl.com/yc2xbpdb
Suqamisnip-it from this document states
"Two of the passports that have survived, those of Satam al
classAziz al Omari, were clearly doctored. To avoid getting into the
frauduledetails, we will just state that these were manipulated in a
manner, in ways that have been associated with al Qaeda"
This is clearly propaganda, as there were no surviving passports.
All 19 of the terrorists (and their possessions) were incinerated
when the planes crashed into tall buildings (or into a field in
Pennsylvania).
But it is not propaganda if the information is from a official source.
ie: The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks.
by the way and to that end, I am glad that you are not on this team.
The Rev. Louis Farrakhan told us
You never mind what the Rev. Louis Farrakhan has said
As very typically and all to often he is referred to as the controversial Nation of Islam leader, his speeches are often laced with bigoted invectives,
including references to the devil as that Satanic Jew, and the unsubtle proclamation that the powerful Jews are my enemy.
Why would you quote anything from a moron such as this, unless?....
it would of been better to scrutinize
the validity of the documents that were used to provide entry to our
country. It is beyond obvious that they were fraudulent.
How do you know that they were fraudulent? Or is that just anotherof
your assumptions.
Ya know, when you add in that sarcasm at the end and then I come backto
with a valid reason(s) It's as equivalent as a cream pie pie - right
the face.
In a word "Passports"
From the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks
https://tinyurl.com/yc2xbpdb
snip-it from this document states "Two of the passports that have
survived, those of Satam al Suqami and Abdul Aziz al Omari, were
clearly doctored.
To avoid getting into the classified details,
we will just state that these were manipulated in a fraudulent GD>manner,in ways that have been associated with al Qaeda"
That answers the question. Thanks.
I had not heard that before.
One problem is that passports were not realized to be doctored until
after the fact, not upon attempted entry.
A propaganda piece is not evidence of anything. There were no
surviving passports of any of the terrorists who slammed planes
into skyscrapers, as everybody on board was incinerated. Paper
burns, same as people.
Base on the preceding post by Gregory you were making an assumption which proves not to be true. He quoted a source which says that two passports did survive.
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