• Secret Service Screwups

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to ALL on Sat Jul 16 20:17:00 2022
    Hello Everybody,

    Pathetic. Truly pathetic.

    Time for President Biden to stand up and be a man. Have his inspector
    general for the Department of Homeland Security abide by the subpoena
    issued by the J6 select committee. No excuses. Comply or be fired.

    Source: The Guardian

    Hugo Lowell in Washington
    Sat 16 Jul 2022 12.30 EDT

    The Secret Service’s account about how text messages from the day
    before and the day of the Capitol attack were erased has shifted
    several times, the inspector general for the Department of Homeland
    Security told the House January 6 select committee at a briefing on
    Friday.

    At one point, the explanation from the Secret Service for the lost
    texts was because of software upgrades, the inspector general told the
    panel, while at another point, the explanation was because of device replacements.

    The inspector general also said that though the secret service opted
    to have his office do a review of the agency’s response to the Capitol
    attack in lieu of conducting after-action reports, it then stonewalled
    the review by slow-walking production of materials.

    After the inspector general raised his complaints, he then discussed
    the feasibility of reconstructing the texts. But the issues so alarmed
    the select committee that the panel moved hours later to subpoena the
    Secret Service, according to participants at the briefing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/16/secret-service-deleted -text-messages-january-6


    How about it, Joe Biden?
    Are you a man, or a mouse?
    The J6 select committee has issued a subpoena to the secret service.
    Comply or be fired. That's the deal. No excuses.
    The American people deserve much more from their president.
    Even his dog, Major, deserved better.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Rebecca Marie@1:124/5016 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Jul 18 12:57:00 2022
    Lee Lofaso wrote to ALL <=-

    The American people deserve much more from their president.
    Even his dog, Major, deserved better.

    It is so amazing how close the insurrection came to overthrowing our government. I've been accused of being too cynical, but I really don't think anything major is going to come from these hearings. The people who planned and executed this insurrection will get away without any real form of punishment.



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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Rebecca Marie on Wed Jul 20 12:56:22 2022
    Hello Rebecca,

    The American people deserve much more from their president.
    Even his dog, Major, deserved better.

    It is so amazing how close the insurrection came to overthrowing our government. I've been accused of being too cynical, but I really don't think
    anything major is going to come from these hearings. The people who planned
    and executed this insurrection will get away without any real form of punishment.

    Over 300 people have already been convicted of various crimes.
    Hundreds more are facing charges. Others remain under investigation.
    Actions have consequences. As many who participated have already
    found out.

    What if Mike Pence had gotten in the car as told by the Secret Service
    when the insurrectionists were inside the Capital building? Remember,
    he was Vice President at the time, and those people above him were just
    40 feet away, wanted to hang him in public.

    Here is what I found on a blog by an anonymous blogger -

    -=begin quote=-

    .... as the palace guard, and in fact, that's just what they are
    and...humor me here as I describe an imagined scenario...the traitors
    had to erase history by deleting their texts of Jan. 5 and 6th of 2021
    as it was extremely likely their plans were discussed as to what to do
    with Pence...his body/bodies(?) and who to blame it on. Probably the Oathkeepers or Proud Boys since they were there and there were no Black
    people visible in the rioting crowd (BLM), or maybe antifa, an oft used scapegoat.

    We dodged a bullet as a nation when the VP, who wouldn't go along with
    trump's planned coup, followed his instincts which told him not to get
    into the SS SUV in the basement of the Capitol building.

    Hard to imagine what other reason is there for the SS to delete the
    text files AFTER they were twice requested. Repeat, they deleted them
    AFTER they were requested for investigation twice.

    Remember, it's just my imagination, folks. Pleasant dreams, or not.

    -=end quote=-

    Agents who could have been involved ... including the head of the SS.
    They took an oath to protect our country. Not just Mike Pence, who was
    the sitting Vice President at the time. This is not OK! Not by me! Not
    by any American who is loyal to this country!

    Are the January 4 and January 5 2021 messages intact? If so, these
    deletions are purposeful.

    The SS claims the January 5 and January 6 2021 messages were lost
    or deleted. However, that makes no sense. Do you know why?

    You can't have it both ways, sugar pie. Purge is intentional, lost
    is accidental. So which is it?

    Either someone who reviewed them made the decision to purge them
    and call them lost, or a superior directed the someone who ordered
    the purges.

    The SS falls under the DHS. Remember, this was Trump's SS, and Trump's
    DHS, at the time.

    Today those same SS agents are still there. And it is those SS agents
    who deleted those text messages - after having been issued a subpoena
    by the J6 Select Committee - to do so.

    Those SS agents should be fired and prosecuted. Immediately. As well
    as the DHS inspector general, whose duty is to keep SS agents in line.

    NASA has a motto - "Failure is not an option."

    Joe Biden should adopt it as a motto of his own.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Rebecca Marie on Wed Jul 20 14:12:31 2022
    Rebecca Marie -> Lee Lofaso skrev 2022-07-18 19:57:
    I've been accused of being too cynical, but I really don't think
    anything major is going to come from these hearings. The people who planned and
    executed this insurrection will get away without any real form of punishment.

    I agree with you Rebecca. The corruption, political as well as juridical, in the US has gone too far.

    Judging by how Manhattan D.A. Alvin Bragg acted as soon as he took office:

    https://tinyurl.com/2xkpsvmw

    ... I doubt that Merrick Garland has the balls to do the right thing. Catching the small fish, yes, that's easy. Getting the big fish on the hook seems almost impossible in the USA. The future will tell.




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  • From Rebecca Marie@1:124/5016 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Jul 28 13:16:00 2022
    Lee Lofaso wrote to Rebecca Marie <=-

    Over 300 people have already been convicted of various crimes.
    Hundreds more are facing charges. Others remain under investigation. Actions have consequences. As many who participated have already
    found out.

    This should go into history books as one of the biggest events in our country's history. But currently, there are so many people downplaying the significance of the attempted insurrection that I worry it will be minimized. Especially if the Republican party gains control of congress.

    What if Mike Pence had gotten in the car as told by the Secret Service when the insurrectionists were inside the Capital building? Remember,
    he was Vice President at the time, and those people above him were just
    40 feet away, wanted to hang him in public.

    I really do not like Mike Pence, but he proved that he put country above party throughout the election fall-out through the insurrection.


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  • From Rebecca Marie@1:124/5016 to Björn Felten on Thu Jul 28 13:17:00 2022
    Bj”rn Felten wrote to Rebecca Marie <=-

    thing. Catching the small fish, yes, that's easy. Getting the big fish
    on the hook seems almost impossible in the USA. The future will tell.

    Ayuh, unfortunately that is exactly right. :(


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    Mrs. Vanderspool: Will you please sit down and be quiet?
    Giggywig: Or perhaps in your case, a whole loaf of toast.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Rebecca Marie on Fri Jul 29 05:16:05 2022
    This should go into history books as one of the biggest events in our country's history. But currently, there are so many people downplaying
    the significance of the attempted insurrection that I worry it will be minimized. Especially if the Republican party gains control of congress.

    Hmm, what if Trump gets control of the white house again? Won't that be fun?

    I really do not like Mike Pence, but he proved that he put country above party throughout the election fall-out through the insurrection.

    Thanks for the tip! We will never vote for Pence, because they have the brainwashed people thinking good about him. Rino alert!

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Rebecca Marie on Sat Jul 30 00:16:12 2022
    Hello Rebecca,

    Over 300 people have already been convicted of various crimes.
    Hundreds more are facing charges. Others remain under investigation.
    Actions have consequences. As many who participated have already
    found out.

    This should go into history books as one of the biggest events in our country's history. But currently, there are so many people downplaying the significance of the attempted insurrection that I worry it will be minimized.

    This was a significant event in US history. An attempted coup d'etat,
    led by a sitting president, against the legitimately elected government
    of the USA. The main person responsible for it all has not been charged
    or convicted of any crime, but the DOJ will decide as to what crimes
    were committed and by whom, with the Attorney General deciding who will
    be prosecuted. Of course, the AG could pass the decision about what to
    do with Trump onto President Joe Biden, who has ultimate authority on
    the matter.

    Especially if the Republican party gains control of congress.

    We have Congressional elections every two years, not whenever a tin
    horn dictator feels like it. That does not mean such elections are
    always fair, or if they ever have been. But at least the American
    people still have a choice.

    What if Mike Pence had gotten in the car as told by the Secret Service
    when the insurrectionists were inside the Capital building? Remember,
    he was Vice President at the time, and those people above him were just
    40 feet away, wanted to hang him in public.

    I really do not like Mike Pence, but he proved that he put country above party throughout the election fall-out through the insurrection.

    Mike Pence is no hero. He did everything he could ensure Donald Trump
    would remain president, up to the day of the J6 insurrection, despite
    having lost the election big-time to Joe Biden. But his lawyers could
    find no loophole that would allow him to subvert the US Constitution,
    so Pence decided he had no choice but to do his constitutional duty.

    Now he is trying to paint himself as a "hero" for having "saved" our
    democratic form of government, knowing full well he is nothing more
    than a bucket of putrid filth.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Rebecca Marie@1:124/5016 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 4 21:00:00 2022
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Rebecca Marie <=-

    Thanks for the tip! We will never vote for Pence, because they have the brainwashed people thinking good about him. Rino alert!

    It is amazing to me the depths that the Republican party has fallen to. Have you completely forgotten Ronald Reagan's 11th commandment? Because it seems to me that the pro-Trump members of your party have abandoned the core principles that Reagan defined to support a man who wouldn't think twice about running
    the whole party into the ground if that meant getting more praise from his followers.

    Reagan made the entire party march in lock-step with him. Trump is tearing dwn that party for his own self esteem.

    I feel bad for all you pro-Trumpers. You've given up the soul of your party
    to follow the words of a man who couldn't care less about you.

    - Bex



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Rebecca Marie on Fri Aug 5 07:05:21 2022
    Rebecca Marie -> Aaron Thomas skrev 2022-08-05 04:00:
    I feel bad for all you pro-Trumpers. You've given up the soul of your party
    to follow the words of a man who couldn't care less about you.

    Well, for that to happen you really have to be very stupid. At least now we have a scientific explanation as to how this has happened in the entire world, but proportionally much worse in the USA:

    https://youtu.be/IV3dnLzthDA



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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Rebecca Marie on Sat Aug 6 02:02:30 2022
    Hello Rebecca,

    [..]

    Reagan made the entire party march in lock-step with him. Trump is tearing dwn that party for his own self esteem.

    Reagan was willing (and did) to make deals. He and House Speaker
    Tip O'Neil were able to work things out, and also able to socialize
    after 5 when sessions were over. Republicans did have control of
    the Senate for two years, but the House was controlled by Democrats.

    Trump was never willing to negotiate any kind of deals with Democrats.
    Except for a weak prison reform bill, nothing of any significance was
    passed. All he cared about was his MAGA Nation and maintainging his
    own status as its leader, having transformed the Republican Party into
    a Cult of Personality.

    I feel bad for all you pro-Trumpers. You've given up the soul of your party
    to follow the words of a man who couldn't care less about you.

    The MAGA Nation is only half of the Republican Party, even though
    most Republicans are still cowed by his presence. It does not take
    a mathematician with a PhD to figure out that no candidate can win
    election as POTUS with only 35% of the vote.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Sat Aug 6 02:02:43 2022
    Hello Bj”rn,

    I feel bad for all you pro-Trumpers. You've given up the soul of your
    party
    to follow the words of a man who couldn't care less about you.

    Well, for that to happen you really have to be very stupid. At least now we have a scientific explanation as to how this has happened in the entire world, but proportionally much worse in the USA:

    https://youtu.be/IV3dnLzthDA


    Please. Never underestimate The Stupid.
    Sometimes I wonder which is worse - The Crazies, or The Stupids.
    We have already seen what The Stupids are capable of.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Rebecca Marie on Fri Aug 5 12:04:28 2022
    I feel bad for all you pro-Trumpers. You've given up the soul of your party to follow the words of a man who couldn't care less about you.

    There's no party that's going to help poor people. Trump helped create jobs, and Biden helped them get back on unemployment.

    Democrats are helping poor people from central America. Does that count as "helping poor people?"

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Aug 7 16:42:20 2022
    Hello Aaron,

    I feel bad for all you pro-Trumpers. You've given up the soul of your
    party to follow the words of a man who couldn't care less about you.

    There's no party that's going to help poor people.

    That is no longer true. Andrew Yang has formed a third party, and
    is running for his party's nomination for president. His program
    is to give free money to everyone with what he calls a universal
    guaranteed income.

    Trump helped create jobs, and Biden helped them get back on unemployment.

    The number of unemployed were extremely high under Trump, who did
    nothing to alleviate the problem caused by the pandemic. Thaks to the
    Biden administration, unemployment is no longer a problem, and this
    country is basically at full employment, with only 3.6% unemployed.

    Democrats are helping poor people from central America. Does that count as "helping poor people?"

    The Biden administration has put an end to Trump's "zero tolerance"
    policy, and has re-united over 400 families separated by the Trump administration. That is a success that no Trump or MAGA supporter
    wants to admit.

    For Lee,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Aug 7 15:25:21 2022
    The number of unemployed were extremely high under Trump, who did
    nothing to alleviate the problem caused by the pandemic. Thaks to the Biden administration, unemployment is no longer a problem, and this country is basically at full employment, with only 3.6% unemployed.

    The leftists worked harder than ever to remove the unbuyable guy. Whether leftists invented the virus or not, they at least figured out how to use it to remove Trump.

    Now we've got a president who doesn't do anything about the covid problem, the hospital problem, or any problem. Except Democrats have finally agreed to
    stop global warming dead in its tracks.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Aug 8 09:54:05 2022
    Hello Aaron,

    The number of unemployed were extremely high under Trump, who did
    nothing to alleviate the problem caused by the pandemic. Thaks to the
    Biden administration, unemployment is no longer a problem, and this
    country is basically at full employment, with only 3.6% unemployed.

    The leftists worked harder than ever to remove the unbuyable guy.

    Lowest unemployment rate in decades, thanks to President Joe Biden,
    who has indeed Made America Great Again!

    For Life,
    Lee

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