Hello August!

On 07.05.19 at 22:17, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

[PROS]

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Twit filter.

How do you do that?

- Go into your address book and select the "Special" option.
- Cursor over an entry in the address book and select "Edit".

Got there, no problem.

OK, fine .....

More than likely, the twit won't be in your address book, so you'll
need to create an entry.

A started to A)dd a user, typed the name, but the system wouldn't let me advance to the next stage. The screen just froze.

..... this time, select "New" instead of "Edit".

- The cursor should be in the "Server" input field, press <Enter>.
- In the "User" input field, type the name(or part of the name) you
wish to twit out.
- If the name is in one of your installed nodelists/pointlists, OpenXP
should pop up the details in its nodelist browser.
- Press <Enter> over the name.

You can then proceed with the rest of the setup.

However, if the name is neither in any of your nodelists nor in any of
your pointlists, OpenXP won't let you go any further. The "User" must
be a listed system.

I've never used this feature, so I can't say whether it actually works
or not. I look forward to your feedback ;)

I would appreciate to know if you can add a name without the lockup. But
I am using the Windows version of OXP here.

I've just tried this on my Windows installation and it worked without problems with a listed system. I tried it again with an unlisted
system and OpenXP wouldn't let me go any further, I had to press <ESC>
to get out of the dialogue.

Regards,
Martin

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On 08/05/2019 7:06 a.m., Martin Foster : August Abolins wrote:

- If the name is in one of your installed nodelists/pointlists, OpenXP
  should pop up the details in its nodelist browser.
- Press <Enter> over the name.

However, if the name is neither in any of your nodelists nor in any of
your pointlists, OpenXP won't let you go any further. The "User" must
be a listed system.

Ah! I want to twit a "user".

..: oxp: CON ? "twit filter limited to nodelisted names only."

Could a hack with a custom nodelist file with the "name" (and a fake address) work? Or.. will that block every user at a particular Origin?

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Ah! I want to twit a "user".

Use "u set killfile" in BBBS. :)

It'll filter on names and/or subjects.

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Hello Alan!

** 08.05.19 - 11:09, Alan Ianson wrote to August Abolins:

Ah! I want to twit a "user".

Use "u set killfile" in BBBS. :)

It'll filter on names and/or subjects.
-+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4

That is a very nice option in a BBS itself. I thought that twitting was
only a feature in offline readers. BBBS seems to have some fine features
in the u)utilities menu.



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Hello Martin!

** 08.05.19 - 14:06, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

..... this time, select "New" instead of "Edit".

-------- [Snip] ---------

However, if the name is neither in any of your nodelists nor in any of
your pointlists, OpenXP won't let you go any further. The "User" must
be a listed system.

BTW.. the system only searches by last name.

And.. it goes to show us that OXP was originally designed to work with a network of OTHER point-listed users.



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Hello Martin!

** 07.05.19 - 13:30, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

[snip]

[PROS]

----------8<----------

Twit filter.

+--------------------------------------------------------+
| |
| [x] Public messages from this User will NOT |
| be imported into the message-base. This is |
| what's commonly known as a "Twit" filter and |
| is extremely useful for "twitting out" |
| certain individuals whose messages, for |
| whatever reason, you don't want to read! |
| |
| Private messages are NOT affected by this |
| setting. |

Nice.

Can you find out if the twit system matches the name irregardless of the address, or must there be a match with the name *and* address?



../|ug

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Hello August!

On 08.05.19 at 17:13, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

- If the name is in one of your installed nodelists/pointlists, OpenXP
  should pop up the details in its nodelist browser.
- Press <Enter> over the name.

However, if the name is neither in any of your nodelists nor in any of
your pointlists, OpenXP won't let you go any further.
The "User" must be a listed system.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hmmmmm, got that wrong, sorry.

Ah! I want to twit a "user".

Yes.

..: oxp: CON ? "twit filter limited to nodelisted names only."

Nope.

Could a hack with a custom nodelist file with the "name" (and a fake address) work? Or.. will that block every user at a particular Origin?

That's not necessary .....

In the "User" input field, type in "Joe Bloggs@1:234/567.8"(without
quotes) and see what happens.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello August!

On 09.05.19 at 00:36, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

[snip]

[PROS]

----------8<----------

Twit filter.

+--------------------------------------------------------+
| |
| [x] Public messages from this User will NOT |
| be imported into the message-base. This is |
| what's commonly known as a "Twit" filter and |
| is extremely useful for "twitting out" |
| certain individuals whose messages, for |
| whatever reason, you don't want to read! |
| |
| Private messages are NOT affected by this |
| setting. |

Nice.

Yes, isn't it :)

Can you find out if the twit system matches the name irregardless
of the address, or must there be a match with the name *and*
address?

Further to what I said in my previous post about this matter, I would
imagine that the match will be on name and address but I couldn't say
for sure. The best way to find out is for you to try it and then for
you to tell me :-))))

Regards,
Martin

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Hello August!

On 09.05.19 at 00:03, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

..... this time, select "New" instead of "Edit".

-------- [Snip] ---------

However, if the name is neither in any of your nodelists nor in any of
your pointlists, OpenXP won't let you go any further. The "User" must
be a listed system.

BTW.. the system only searches by last name.

In this instance, yes, that's correct but I didn't know that. Good
spotting and thanks for the heads-up.

And.. it goes to show us that OXP was originally designed to work with a network of OTHER point-listed users.

Not quite sure what you mean by that ?

Regards,
Martin

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Use "u set killfile" in BBBS. :)

It'll filter on names and/or subjects.

That is a very nice option in a BBS itself. I thought that twitting was
only a feature in offline readers. BBBS seems to have some fine features
in the u)utilities menu.

Yep, Kim has put a lot of thought and effort into BBBS.

BW support has been part of BBBS ever since.. I'm not sure when but back in the 90's when CR/LF EOLs where the norm. That's not the case so much these days.

Kim does still support and maintain BBBS. I'll netmail him and explain what is happening with uploads from SemPoint and and ask if BBBS can be changed to support EOLs without the CR/LF pair. I don't know if he'll make those changes but I'll ask.

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Hello Martin!

** 09.05.19 - 10:52, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

Further to what I said in my previous post about this matter, I would
imagine that the match will be on name and address but I couldn't say
for sure. The best way to find out is for you to try it and then for
you to tell me :-))))

Will do. It will have to wait a while. I dropped the echo in OXP a while ago.

I've now added the name as you instructed: "fname lname@1:234/567.8"
where fname and lname are parts of the real name, and the address as
shown. Now, I wait for some incoming.


../|ug

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Hello Martin!

** 09.05.19 - 10:55, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

And.. it goes to show us that OXP was originally designed to work with a
network of OTHER point-listed users.

Not quite sure what you mean by that ?

I *think* I meant that OXP/Crosspoint was probably intended to work with
each person participating in its networks to be "listed", either in a top level nodelist, or a pointlist.

Anyway, here's hoping that the twit filter won't care about the fake
address I used for the name I don't want to see.



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Hello August!

On 09.05.19 at 22:01, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

Further to what I said in my previous post about this matter, I would
imagine that the match will be on name and address but I couldn't say
for sure. The best way to find out is for you to try it and then for
you to tell me :-))))

Will do. It will have to wait a while. I dropped the echo in OXP a while ago.

I've now added the name as you instructed: "fname lname@1:234/567.8"
where fname and lname are parts of the real name, and the address as shown. Now, I wait for some incoming.

I used the fake address(1:234/567.8) just as an example to show you
that OpenXP would let you carry on with the configuration, even though
the address is not listed. You would need to use the real Fido address
of the twit after the "@".

Regards,
Martin

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Hello Martin!

** 10.05.19 - 11:00, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

I've now added the name as you instructed: "fname lname@1:234/567.8"
where fname and lname are parts of the real name, and the address as
shown. Now, I wait for some incoming.

I used the fake address(1:234/567.8) just as an example to show you
that OpenXP would let you carry on with the configuration, even though
the address is not listed. You would need to use the real Fido address
of the twit after the "@".

Noted! I now changed the address to a "real" one that the user uses.
And now I have to wait for real incoming.

Meanwhile, a message arrived addressed TO the twit. :(

It would be nice if both "From: Twit" and "To: Twit" could be twitted.


../|ug

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Hello August!

## 10.05.19 at 20:37:00, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

[snip]

Noted! I now changed the address to a "real" one that the user uses.
And now I have to wait for real incoming.

Meanwhile, a message arrived addressed TO the twit. :(

It would be nice if both "From: Twit" and "To: Twit" could be twitted.

Yes it would but the built-in twit filter is just a simple rudimentary one.

There used to be a number of third-party filter "Tools" which were very good but they were all 16-Bit. The best one of all was CrossSecretary written by Christian von Busse but it was *not* easy to configure. The only one I know of that's still out there is XPFilter but it's for Linux.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello Martin!

** 09.05.19 - 10:52, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

Twit filter.

+--------------------------------------------------------+
| |
| [x] Public messages from this User will NOT |
| be imported into the message-base. This is |
| what's commonly known as a "Twit" filter and |
| is extremely useful for "twitting out" |
| certain individuals whose messages, for |
| whatever reason, you don't want to read! |
| |
| Private messages are NOT affected by this |
| setting. |

Further to what I said in my previous post about this matter, I would
imagine that the match will be on name and address but I couldn't say
for sure. The best way to find out is for you to try it and then for
you to tell me :-))))

Confirmed. The filter makes a match on messages address FROM "fname lname@z:nnn/nnn.p"

Uppercase or lower case does not matter on fname/lname

Messages addressed TO "fname lname" still come through.


../|ug

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Hello August!

## 12.05.19 at 17:34:00, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

Twit filter.

+--------------------------------------------------------+ |
| | [x] Public messages from this User will NOT | |
be imported into the message-base. This is | | what's
commonly known as a "Twit" filter and | | is extremely useful
for "twitting out" | | certain individuals whose
messages, for | | whatever reason, you don't want to
read! | | |
| Private messages are NOT affected by this | |
setting. |

Further to what I said in my previous post about this matter, I would
imagine that the match will be on name and address but I couldn't say
for sure. The best way to find out is for you to try it and then for you
to tell me :-))))

Confirmed. The filter makes a match on messages address FROM "fname lname@z:nnn/nnn.p"

Thanks for the confirmation.

Uppercase or lower case does not matter on fname/lname

Noted, thanks.

Messages addressed TO "fname lname" still come through.

Noted again, thanks.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello August!

On 11/05/2019 11:55:45, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

[snip]

Noted! I now changed the address to a "real" one that the user
uses.
And now I have to wait for real incoming.

Meanwhile, a message arrived addressed TO the twit. :(

It would be nice if both "From: Twit" and "To: Twit" could be
twitted.

Yes it would but the built-in twit filter is just a simple
rudimentary one.

There used to be a number of third-party filter "Tools" which were
very good but they were all 16-Bit. The best one of all was CrossSecretary written by Christian von Busse but it was *not* easy
to configure. The only one I know of that's still out there is
XPFilter but it's for Linux.

Correction .....

I've managed to find a Win32 version of XPFilter BUT it's all in German.
The comprehensive documentation is also in German. If you'd like copies,
let me know and I'll send them along.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello Martin!

** 17.05.19 - 14:42, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

I've managed to find a Win32 version of XPFilter BUT it's all in German.
The comprehensive documentation is also in German. If you'd like copies,
let me know and I'll send them along.

Thanks.. but I'll pass if it's in German. Meanwhile, I can manually
delete the "To: twit" as an exercise.


../|ug

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