Greetings All!

OpenXP 5.0.37 has been released and is available for download from the following URLs .....

https://sourceforge.net/projects/openxp5/

https://openxp.uk/

OpenXP is a fully integrated FidoNet Point system, email client and
newsgroup client for the Windows/Linux console.

Windows version is available as a 32-Bit ZIP package.

Linux version is available as a 32-Bit ZIP or RPM package and as a
64-Bit ZIP or RPM package.

Pascal source code packages are also available for download.

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.37
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)

Hi Martin!

06 Apr 2019 13:33, from Martin Foster -> All:

OpenXP 5.0.37 has been released

I updated my install.
And it still has a hufe bug here.

I initiated a call it worked fine, it "tossed" the packets, then it shows a black screen and nothing happened.
I remember now that the previous version did the same here.
I had to downgrade to a previous version to get it to run :(

CU, Ricsi

... Eating words has never given me indigestion. -Winston Churchill
--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: You argue with yourself and lose? - Problem! (2:310/31)

Hello Richard!

On 07.04.19 at 14:27, Richard Menedetter wrote to Martin Foster:

OpenXP 5.0.37 has been released

I updated my install.
And it still has a hufe bug here.

I initiated a call it worked fine, it "tossed" the packets, then it shows a black screen and nothing happened. I remember now that the previous version did the same here. I had to downgrade to a previous version to
get it to run :(

Hmmmm, here we go again :)

I'm still convinced that this is a nodelist related issue. Please
delete your nodelist config by going to "Fido/Nodelists/Config" and
then select the "Delete" button and hit <Enter>. Then, select the
"with File" button and hit <Enter>. If you have more than one nodelist installed, repeat the process on them all. See if that resolves the
issue.

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.37
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)

Hello Martin!

OpenXP 5.0.37 has been released

I'm here.





Regards,
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.37
* Origin: /|ug's Point, ONT, CANADA (2:221/1.58)

Hello August!

On 07.04.19 at 23:41, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

OpenXP 5.0.37 has been released

I'm here.

Welcome! :-))

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.37
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)

Greetings All!

On 06.04.19 at 13:33, Martin Foster wrote to All:

OpenXP 5.0.37 has been released and is available for download from the following URLs .....

https://sourceforge.net/projects/openxp5/

https://openxp.uk/

Shortly after release, a major bug was discovered relating to the
sending of file attachments. A new *Windows* version(5.0.38) has been released and is available for download from either of the above URL's.
The Linux packages will be released ASAP.

Apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.37
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)

Hello Martin!

** 09.04.19 - 09:46, Martin Foster wrote to All:

Shortly after release, a major bug was discovered relating to the
sending of file attachments. A new *Windows* version(5.0.38) has been released and is available for download from either of the above URL's.
The Linux packages will be released ASAP.

Apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Can I accomplish the "update" by just taking the new versions of these
from the package:

openxp.exe
ssleay32.dll
openxp-e.res
openxp-e.hlp
libeay32.dll

????

I was experimenting with an attachment since v5.0.37, and it never left
the queue:

þ  F 22 08.04 August Abolins@2:221/360 2:221/1 H:\DOWNLOADS\somefile

..is v.37 the reason why this is not going out?



../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.37
* Origin: /|ug's Point, ONT, CANADA (2:221/1.58)

Hello August!

On 09.04.19 at 18:27, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

Can I accomplish the "update" by just taking the new versions of these from the package:

openxp.exe
ssleay32.dll
openxp-e.res
openxp-e.hlp
libeay32.dll

????

The best(and easiest) way to update an existing install is to
extract(with paths) the complete archive over the top of your existing install. Something may have changed in some of the sub-directories, particularly the "doc" directory. This method will *not* overwrite any
of your existing configuration.

I was experimenting with an attachment since v5.0.37, and it never left the queue:

þ  F 22 08.04 August Abolins@2:221/360 2:221/1
H:\DOWNLOADS\somefile

..is v.37 the reason why this is not going out?

Not sure about that, I'll check it out later ;)

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.38
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)

Hello Martin!

** 10.04.19 - 13:35, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

The best(and easiest) way to update an existing install is to
extract(with paths) the complete archive over the top of your existing install. Something may have changed in some of the sub-directories, particularly the "doc" directory. This method will *not* overwrite any
of your existing configuration.

Thank you for confirming that. As you are now familiar with my lack of reading the fine print, prior to this I decided to be a bit more careful
and *not* just do a regular unpack over the old. Good to hear that an "update" via unpack does not write over existing config settings.

I was experimenting with an attachment since v5.0.37, and it never left AA>> the queue:

þ  F 22 08.04 August Abolins@2:221/360 2:221/1
H:\DOWNLOADS\somefile

..is v.37 the reason why this is not going out?

Not sure about that, I'll check it out later ;)

I deleted it. Not knowing what the " F" character meant was bothering
me. They don't seem to be talked about in the Helps.

But now, I can't seem to add a file attach anymore. :( No matter. It's not an expected feature of fidonet/netmail anyway.


Just curious, are file attaches popular in the othernets with OpenXP?


../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.38
* Origin: /|ug's Point, ONT, CANADA (2:221/1.58)

Hello August!

On 10.04.19 at 22:05, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

[snip]

I was experimenting with an attachment since v5.0.37, and it never left
the queue:

þ  F 22 08.04 August Abolins@2:221/360 2:221/1
H:\DOWNLOADS\somefile

..is v.37 the reason why this is not going out?

Not sure about that, I'll check it out later ;)

I deleted it. Not knowing what the " F" character meant was bothering me. They don't seem to be talked about in the Helps.

The probable reason why it never left the queue is that it may have
been marked "Crash". Notice I'm being a bit vague with this(see
below).

But now, I can't seem to add a file attach anymore. :( No matter.
It's not an expected feature of fidonet/netmail anyway.

OK but I need to have a good look at Fido file attaches because it's
not a feature I use these days and I don't think any work has been
done on the feature since binkP was implemented.

Just curious, are file attaches popular in the othernets with OpenXP?

If you mean OpenXP's email client then yes, and this was the major bug
in 5.0.37

However, if you mean FTN "othernets" then I haven't a clue as I'm not
on any "othernets" :)

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.38
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:240/2188.31)

On 2019 Apr 10 22:05:00, you wrote to Martin Foster:

But now, I can't seem to add a file attach anymore. :( No matter.
It's not an expected feature of fidonet/netmail anyway.

it should be expected... file attachments are a feature of FTN netmail...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Limbaugh, the radio dreamsicle of ten million terrified white men.
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* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

On 11/04/2019 10:05 a.m., mark lewis : August Abolins wrote:

 AA> But now, I can't seem to add a file attach anymore.  :(   No

matter.

 AA> It's not an expected feature of fidonet/netmail anyway.

it should be expected... file attachments are a feature of FTN netmail...

Hi Mark..

Oh, I thought it was a prohibited or a discourage practice. I will revisit the option when I am sitting in front of my OpenXP point.

But attachments are certainly not an allowed feature originating from nntp-netmail to my uplink.

.../|ug

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.
* Origin: - nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/360)

Hello Martin!

But now, I can't seem to add a file attach anymore. :( No matter.
It's not an expected feature of fidonet/netmail anyway.

OK but I need to have a good look at Fido file attaches because it's
not a feature I use these days and I don't think any work has been
done on the feature since binkP was implemented.

Just curious, are file attaches popular in the othernets with OpenXP?

If you mean OpenXP's email client then yes, and this was the major bug
in 5.0.37

No. Sofar, just using oxp for FTN.

However, if you mean FTN "othernets" then I haven't a clue as I'm not
on any "othernets" :)

Yes.. I meant FTN. Now, I can't remember how I did it! :(


../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.38
* Origin: /|ug's Point, ONT, CANADA (2:221/1.58)

On 2019 Apr 11 20:03:34, you wrote to me:

 AA> But now, I can't seem to add a file attach anymore.  :(   No

matter.

 AA> It's not an expected feature of fidonet/netmail anyway.

it should be expected... file attachments are a feature of FTN netmail...

Oh, I thought it was a prohibited or a discourage practice. I will

revisit

the option when I am sitting in front of my OpenXP point.

yeah, not... FA generally need to be sent directly to the other system... some systems do allow for routing file attaches but there are many that still do not... i used to allow routed FA through my old system but i don't think my new
one does...

But attachments are certainly not an allowed feature originating from nntp-netmail to my uplink.

very true... those so-called file attaches are actually uuencoded, xxencoded, or MIME encoded and so are actually in the body of the message... they also take 1/3rd more space than FTN file attaches which go "in the raw"...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... I can be one of those bad things that happens to bad people.
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* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

Hello August!

On 11.04.19 at 19:05, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

[snip]

Yes.. I meant FTN. Now, I can't remember how I did it! :(

To send a file attach .....

- Go into the addressbook.
- Cursor over the "Contact" you wish to send the file to.
- Press "i".
- Navigate your way to the file you wish to send.
- Once selected, press <Enter>.

At this point, you should be in the message editor.

- Compose your message.
- Press <Esc> and then save the message.
- Select "Yes" and press <Enter>.
- In the "Send" dialogue that pops up, select "Yes".
- Press <Enter>.

You should now see a "Start crash netcall" dialogue.

- Select "Yes" and press <Enter>.
- If you're happy with what you're seeing, press <Enter>.
- If you decide you don't want to start the crash call now, you can
- back out by pressing <Esc>.

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.38
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:240/2188.31)

In a post between "mark lewis : August Abolins", on 4/11/2019 10:36 PM

Oh, I thought it was a prohibited or a discourage practice. I

will revisit the option when I am sitting in front of my OpenXP
point.

yeah, not... FA generally need to be sent directly to the other
system... some systems do allow for routing file attaches but there
are many that still do not... i used to allow routed FA through my
old system but i don't think my new one does...

Thanks for that. Direct makes better sense. My FA test from the point (to my own address at 221/360 is still not going out. No matter, email is a better option for attachments anyway.

--- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
* Origin: - nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/360)

Hello August!

On 14.04.19 at 02:14, August Abolins wrote to mark lewis:

[snip]

Thanks for that. Direct makes better sense. My FA test from the
point (to my own address at 221/360 is still not going out. No
matter, email is a better option for attachments anyway.

Have a look in /Fido/Crash - it may be "stuck" in there.

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.38
* Origin: Marmite-on-Toast (2:240/2188.31)

In a post between "Martin Foster : August Abolins", on 4/14/2019 4:37 AM

Hello August!

On 14.04.19 at 02:14, August Abolins wrote to mark lewis:

[snip]

Thanks for that. Direct makes better sense. My FA test from the
point (to my own address at 221/360 is still not going out. No
matter, email is a better option for attachments anyway.

Have a look in /Fido/Crash - it may be "stuck" in there.

I don't have a Crash folder. The message is just listed in the Address-book list like so (I've removed some extra spaces in the lines to make them fit better for 80-cols):


OpenXP Re-Org Message Netcall Fido Edit Config Tools ?
All Hold Delete Kill Reference PM Info Other ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀⠖€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â– €â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€
August Abolins@2:221/360
+‼ F 0 12.04 August Abolins @ 2:221/1.58 -H:\OPENXP\bzip2.exe

+ 120 09.04 August Abolins @ 2:221/1.58 testing attach

+ 91 09.04 August Abolins @ 2:221/1.58 test to self..
719 08.04 August Abolins @ 2:221/1.58 "tick" symbol.

The one marked F never seems to get sent.

--- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
* Origin: - nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/360)

Hello August!

On 14.04.19 at 17:10, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

[snip]

Thanks for that. Direct makes better sense. My FA test from the
point (to my own address at 221/360 is still not going out. No
matter, email is a better option for attachments anyway.

Have a look in /Fido/Crash - it may be "stuck" in there.

I don't have a Crash folder.

I worded my reply badly(again), sorry.

Select "Fido" on the main menu and then press <Enter> over "Crash" -
your FA may be "stuck" in there.

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.38
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:240/2188.31)

Hello Martin,

I don't know how I did it, but now I have an >>Unsent area in the list:


OpenXP Re-Org Message Netcall Fido Edit Config Tools ?
All Write Text Bin Special Seek Show: all ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
¯ /¯Netcall
/¯Unsent
/August Abolins/2:221/1.58
/Martin Foster/2:221/1.58
/FIDO/AFTERSHOCK
/FIDO/COFFEE_KLATSCH
[snip]

[1] Where's the setting for that? I'd like to turn it off.

..because, I find that that folder does not seem to work properly. When I *do* have unsent messages, they never appear in the folder above. Could
that be a bug?.


OpenXP Re-Org Message Netcall Fido Edit Config Tools ?
All Hold Delete Kill Reference Reply PM User Info Other ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
/¯Unsent

no messages


Instead, I still have to go through the top menu commands:

Message/Unsent/Show, then
Message/Unsent/Edit.


../|ug

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* Origin: [++++++++1+++++++++2+++++++++3+++++++++4++++++++5++++] (2:221/1.58)

Hello August!

On 17.04.19 at 0:20:00, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

I don't know how I did it, but now I have an >>Unsent area in the list:

It's created automatically the first time you park a message.

OpenXP Re-Org Message Netcall Fido Edit Config Tools ? All Write Text Bin Special Seek Show: all ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ¯ /¯Netcall /¯Unsent /August Abolins/2:221/1.58 /Martin Foster/2:221/1.58 /FIDO/AFTERSHOCK /FIDO/COFFEE_KLATSCH [snip]

[1] Where's the setting for that?

There isn't one.

I'd like to turn it off.

You can't.

..because, I find that that folder does not seem to work properly. When
I *do* have unsent messages, they never appear in the folder above. Could that be a bug?.

Nope .....

The "¯Unsent" folder is where all your parked(held) messages are stored. Now why it's called "¯Unsent" has always been a mystery to me. A more appropriate name would have been either "¯Parked" or "¯Held".

[snip]

Instead, I still have to go through the top menu commands:

Message/Unsent/Show, then Message/Unsent/Edit.

Yes, that's correct because as far as OpenXP is concerned, parked(held) messages are not the same as unsent messages. Confusing or what? 8-]

Regards,
Martin

--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)

Hello Martin!

** 17.04.19 - 13:40, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

The "¯Unsent" folder is where all your parked(held) messages are stored. Now why it's called "¯Unsent" has always been a mystery to me. A more appropriate name would have been either "¯Parked" or "¯Held".

..as far as OpenXP is concerned, parked(held)
messages are not the same as unsent messages. Confusing or what? 8-]

VERY confusing. Why not send that up the chain to have that folder
renamed?




../|ug

---
* Origin: /|ug's Point, ONT, CANADA (2:221/1.58)

Hello August!

On 17.04.19 at 18:43, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

The "¯Unsent" folder is where all your parked(held) messages are stored.
Now why it's called "¯Unsent" has always been a mystery to me. A more
appropriate name would have been either "¯Parked" or "¯Held".

..as far as OpenXP is concerned, parked(held)
messages are not the same as unsent messages. Confusing or what? 8-]

VERY confusing. Why not send that up the chain to have that
folder renamed?

I somehow think it wouldn't just be a simple matter of renaming the
folder but I'll pass your request on to the developer :)

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.38
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)