• nodelist curveball

    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to All on Fri Apr 2 18:18:00 2021
    Hello All..

    Micronet decided to throw in a curveball.

    For a couple of weeks now, this was working fine:

    Listfile=micronet.###
    UpdateFile=micronet.###
    UpdateArchive=micronet.z##
    DelUpdate=J
    DoDiff=N
    Format=1
    zone=618

    In otherwords, my bossnode was delivering micronet.zip with
    micronet.### inside.

    The last two updates processed automatically quite fine.

    But I *just* received MICRONET.Z92, with micronet.092 inside.

    At first, I thought this would be the solution:

    Listfile=micronet.###
    UpdateFile=micronet.###
    UpdateArchive=MICRONET.Z##
    DelUpdate=J
    DoDiff=N
    Format=1
    zone=618

    But that did NOT work in the automatic mode. :( Automatic mode
    would normally kick in the NEXT TIME OpenXP is lauched. I was a
    bit surprised by that. FSXNET.Z## which operates the same way
    has not problem at all upadating automatically. I wondered..
    WHY doesn't the MICRONET.Z## file cooperating?

    The last FSXNET.Z## contains:

    Archive: FSXNET.Z92
    Length Date Time Name
    -------- ---- ---- ----
    36459 04/01/21 09:15 FSXNET.092
    -------- -------
    36459 1 file


    Looking inside MICRONET.Z##:

    Archive: MICRONET.Z92
    Micronet Information Network nodelist for
    02 April 2021 (day 92). A friendly
    and active international BBS mail network.
    Info on how to join is in the nodelist.
    Length Date Time Name
    -------- ---- ---- ----
    26735 04/02/21 13:35 micronet.092
    165 04/02/21 13:47 file_id.diz
    -------- -------
    26900 2 files

    SO.. the difference is that the latter has TWO files inside.

    Could it be that the presence of file_id_diz is throwing off the
    automatic processing to work as expected?

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Sun Apr 4 11:33:00 2021
    Hello August!

    *** Friday 02.04.21 at 18:18, August Abolins wrote to All:

    Micronet decided to throw in a curveball.

    For a couple of weeks now, this was working fine:

    Listfile=micronet.###
    UpdateFile=micronet.###
    UpdateArchive=micronet.z##
    DelUpdate=J
    DoDiff=N
    Format=1
    zone=618

    In otherwords, my bossnode was delivering micronet.zip with
    micronet.### inside.

    The last two updates processed automatically quite fine.

    But I *just* received MICRONET.Z92, with micronet.092 inside.

    At first, I thought this would be the solution:

    Listfile=micronet.###
    UpdateFile=micronet.###
    UpdateArchive=MICRONET.Z##
    DelUpdate=J
    DoDiff=N
    Format=1
    zone=618

    But that did NOT work in the automatic mode. :( Automatic mode
    would normally kick in the NEXT TIME OpenXP is lauched. I was a
    bit surprised by that. FSXNET.Z## which operates the same way
    has not problem at all upadating automatically. I wondered..
    WHY doesn't the MICRONET.Z## file cooperating?

    The last FSXNET.Z## contains:

    Archive: FSXNET.Z92
    Length Date Time Name
    -------- ---- ---- ----
    36459 04/01/21 09:15 FSXNET.092
    -------- -------
    36459 1 file


    Looking inside MICRONET.Z##:

    Archive: MICRONET.Z92
    Micronet Information Network nodelist for
    02 April 2021 (day 92). A friendly
    and active international BBS mail network.
    Info on how to join is in the nodelist.
    Length Date Time Name
    -------- ---- ---- ----
    26735 04/02/21 13:35 micronet.092
    165 04/02/21 13:47 file_id.diz
    -------- -------
    26900 2 files

    SO.. the difference is that the latter has TWO files inside.

    Could it be that the presence of file_id_diz is throwing off the
    automatic processing to work as expected?

    Maybe, maybe not but I would say that micronet need to get their act
    together with their filenaming convention for their nodelist files before anyone attempts to offer a solution to your problem. As things stand at
    the moment, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to what the problem could
    be, sorry.

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Martin Foster on Sun Apr 4 10:57:50 2021
    Re: nodelist curveball
    By: Martin Foster to August Abolins on Sun Apr 04 2021 11:33:00


    Maybe, maybe not but I would say that micronet need to get their
    act together with their filenaming convention for their nodelist
    files before anyone attempts to offer a solution to your problem.

    it should be noted that the micronet ZC's modem suffered from a lightning strike and they were down until a new mpdem was procured... during this time, the nodelist and ZC activities were transferred to the 2nd "in command"...
    the two systems are different which explains the filename case differences as well as the appearance of the file_id.diz...

    As things stand at the moment, I couldn't even hazard a guess as
    to what the problem could be, sorry.

    without knowing more about what the client software is doing, there's no way to even start to guess... from my side as an observer, i would say the software is simply being too strict and needs to lighten up a little ;)


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Sun Apr 4 12:24:00 2021
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Sunday 04.04.21 - 11:33, you wrote to me:

    The last FSXNET.Z## contains:
    Looking inside MICRONET.Z##:

    Maybe, maybe not but I would say that micronet need to get their act together with their filenaming convention for their nodelist files before anyone attempts to offer a solution to your problem. As things stand at the moment, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to what the problem could be, sorry.

    The only difference between FSXNET.Z## working and MICRONET.Z##
    not working is the presence of the 2nd file file_id.diz in the
    latter.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to mark lewis on Sun Apr 4 12:31:00 2021
    Hello mark lewis!

    ** On Sunday 04.04.21 - 10:57, you wrote to Martin Foster:

    it should be noted that the micronet ZC's modem suffered from a lightning strike and they were down until a new mpdem was procured... during this time, the nodelist and ZC activities were transferred to the 2nd "in command"... the two systems are different which explains the filename
    case differences as well as the appearance of the file_id.diz...

    The temporary ZC activities is appreciated!

    What modem replacement were you able to find? I have a modest
    museum of old modems. I don't know what to do with them.


    without knowing more about what the client software is doing, there's no way to even start to guess... from my side as an observer, i would say
    the software is simply being too strict and needs to lighten up a little ;)

    OR.. maybe ditch the inclusion of file_id_diz. No one else has
    that in their distributed nodelists. ;)
    --
    ../|ug

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to August Abolins on Sun Apr 4 14:19:47 2021
    Re: nodelist curveball
    By: August Abolins to mark lewis on Sun Apr 04 2021 12:31:00


    it should be noted that the micronet ZC's modem suffered from a
    lightning strike and they were down until a new mpdem was
    procured... during this time, the nodelist and ZC activities
    were transferred to the 2nd "in command"... the two systems are
    different which explains the filename case differences as well
    as the appearance of the file_id.diz...

    The temporary ZC activities is appreciated!

    i'm sure they (andrew leary) apprecite the sentiment... i'm not involved with micronet other than as an outside observer...

    What modem replacement were you able to find? I have a modest
    museum of old modems. I don't know what to do with them.

    we're talking about an ISP modem... i know the story because sean is one of my links and he was keeping us updated... the ISP sent a zyxel...


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to mark lewis on Sun Apr 4 16:23:00 2021
    Hello mark!

    What modem replacement were you able to find? I have a modest
    museum of old modems. I don't know what to do with them.

    we're talking about an ISP modem... i know the story because sean is one of my links and he was keeping us updated... the ISP sent a zyxel...

    I realized "ISP" modem/router after I sent the message. I still
    don't really think of the DSL or cable devices as modems when
    the term modem is used all by itself in a sentence. For me,
    when *just* saying "modem", it's the box that connects an anolog
    POTS line to a computer. However, in context it would be
    obvious that it could also be the dsl or cable or fibe variety.

    However, I *do* have at least one old damaged "isp"/dsl modem to
    the pile. I don't know why I haven't thrown that out yet.

    I suppose your zyxel replacement was something provided under a
    warranty or the rental program?

    I have a dsl modem that has a broken port-forwarding function.
    It's programmable, but the results don't follow through. I've
    configured port-farwarding in a previous dsl modem so I know
    what I should expect. But this darn replacement that the ISP
    sent me several years ago does not cooperate.

    I have wondered if it's a simple matter to hot-swap an existing
    dsl/modem router with another one off-the-shelf. Many of the
    config options scare me. It does not seem as simple as
    configuring just a un and pw.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to August Abolins on Sun Apr 4 17:29:42 2021
    Re: the ISP sent a zyxel...
    By: August Abolins to mark lewis on Sun Apr 04 2021 16:23:00


    I suppose your zyxel replacement was something provided under
    a warranty or the rental program?

    idk... i'm not the micronet ZC... his name is sean whereas mine is )\/(ark ;)

    i have nothing to do with micronet other than being an outside observer...


    )\/(ark
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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to August Abolins on Sun Apr 4 21:20:30 2021
    *** Quoting August Abolins from a message to Martin Foster ***

    The only difference between FSXNET.Z## working and MICRONET.Z## not working is the presence of the 2nd file file_id.diz in the latter.

    Do you get MICRONET.Z## files? I've only ever received MICRONET.ZIP files with a MICRONET.### (e.g. MICRONET.092) in it.

    Jay

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Jay Harris on Sun Apr 4 22:27:00 2021
    Hello Jay!

    ** On Sunday 04.04.21 - 21:20, you wrote:

    The only difference between FSXNET.Z## working and MICRONET.Z## not
    working is the presence of the 2nd file file_id.diz in the latter.

    Do you get MICRONET.Z## files? I've only ever received MICRONET.ZIP
    files with a MICRONET.### (e.g. MICRONET.092) in it.

    To: /¯NETCALL (All)
    From: August Abolins @ 2:221/1.58 (RBB, Ylojarvi)
    Subject: Netcall to 618:510/1
    Software: OpenXP/5.0.49 (Win32)
    Date: Fr 02.04.21, 17:18
    Size: 586 Bytes
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    1 19 F1-Help
    = 17:18:11 CONNECT
    17:18:11 OPT CRAM-MD5-477f50a61dbfe5a1154e500afafb12ee
    17:18:11 SYS Alterant MailHub
    17:18:11 ZYZ Deon George
    17:18:11 LOC Parkdale, VIC AU
    17:18:11 NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    17:18:11 TIME Sat, 3 Apr 2021 08:18:08 +1100
    17:18:11 VER binkd/1.1a-111/Linux binkp/1.1
    17:18:13 TRF 0 11743
    17:18:13 OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
    17:18:13 secure
    * 17:18:13 Rcvd MICRONET.Z92, 9776b
    * 17:18:13 Rcvd 13djv5a3.tic, 871b
    * 17:18:13 Rcvd 674ec500.sa0, 1096b
    = 17:18:14 hangup
    - 17:18:14 exiting

    Maybe it was just a one-of. I only seem to remember only
    getting the lowercase micronet.zip with micronet.### inside.
    Are you getting an uppercase version?

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@1:396/45.29 to mark lewis on Sun Apr 4 22:34:00 2021
    Hello mark lewis!

    ** On Sunday 04.04.21 - 17:29, mark lewis wrote to August Abolins:

    I suppose your zyxel replacement was something provided under
    a warranty or the rental program?

    idk... i'm not the micronet ZC... his name is sean whereas mine is
    )\/(ark ;)

    i have nothing to do with micronet other than being an outside
    observer...

    No problem. It sure sounded like you had the inside story to
    the micronet problem though, and then I mistakenly carried on as
    if you were involved with its operations.

    "idk" - I had to look that one up! :D


    --
    ../|ug

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to August Abolins on Mon Apr 5 06:07:14 2021
    Re: the ISP sent a zyxel...
    By: August Abolins to mark lewis on Sun Apr 04 2021 22:34:00


    i have nothing to do with micronet other than being an outside
    observer...

    No problem. It sure sounded like you had the inside story to
    the micronet problem though,

    i did... because the ZC shared it with me and others so we would know why their system was not able to be contacted for mail delivery...

    and then I mistakenly carried on as if you were involved with
    its operations.

    yeah, it is ok :)

    "idk" - I had to look that one up! :D

    hehehe, i've been spending a lot of time with gamers and streamers... i'm tending to use more and more of their shorthand mnemonics like IDK, WDYM, ISWYD, and similar O:)


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to mark lewis on Mon Apr 5 07:47:00 2021
    Hello mark!

    ** On Monday 05.04.21 - 06:07, you wrote:

    "idk" - I had to look that one up! :D

    hehehe, i've been spending a lot of time with gamers and
    streamers... i'm tending to use more and more of their
    shorthand mnemonics like IDK, WDYM, ISWYD, and similar O:)

    Those are new to me too. So.. is there a new generation of
    these things now?
    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to August Abolins on Mon Apr 5 08:02:28 2021
    Hi Ogg,

    Looks like I receive an uppercase MICRONET.ZIP file (not .Z##) with a lowercase micronet.### inside of it:

    === begin binkd.log ===
    - 02 Apr 20:00:00 [3500] receiving MININFO.ZIP (9440 byte(s), off 0)
    + 02 Apr 20:00:01 [3500] MININFO.ZIP -> c:\telegard\echomail\in\MININFO.ZIP
    + 02 Apr 20:00:01 [3500] rcvd: MININFO.ZIP (9440, 9440.00 CPS, 1:229/426@fidonet)
    - 02 Apr 20:00:01 [3500] receiving MICRONET.ZIP (9513 byte(s), off 0)
    + 02 Apr 20:00:01 [3500] MICRONET.ZIP -> c:\telegard\echomail\in\MICRONET.ZIP
    + 02 Apr 20:00:01 [3500] rcvd: MICRONET.ZIP (9513, 9513.00 CPS, 1:229/426@fidonet)
    === end binkd.log ===


    C:\TELEGARD\FILES\MIN_LIST>pkunzip -v MICRONET.ZIP
    Searching ZIP: MICRONET.ZIP - Micronet Information Network nodelist for
    2 April 2021 (day 92). A friendly
    and active international BBS mail network.
    Info on how to join is in the nodelist.

    Length Method Size Ratio Date Time CRC-32 Attr Name
    ------ ------ ----- ----- ---- ---- -------- ---- ----
    164 DeflatX 128 22% 04-02-21 04:05 d12ff4fd --- file_id.diz
    25619 DeflatX 8967 65% 04-02-21 04:05 4c5f33e2 --- micronet.092
    ------ ------ --- -------
    25783 9095 65% 2

    Jay

    ... Computers run on faith, not electrons.

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Jay Harris on Mon Apr 5 08:39:00 2021
    Hello Jay!

    ** On Monday 05.04.21 - 08:02, you wrote:

    Looks like I receive an uppercase MICRONET.ZIP file (not .Z##) with a lowercase micronet.### inside of it:

    Interesting.. so upper/lower naming is changed along the way?

    I would get a LOWERCASE version:

    = 20:06:59 CONNECT
    20:06:59 OPT CRAM-MD5-5ae4b85048bdd0bce0ec630b94eb4dee
    20:06:59 SYS Alterant MailHub
    20:06:59 ZYZ Deon George
    20:06:59 LOC Parkdale, VIC AU
    20:06:59 NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    20:06:59 TIME Sat, 3 Apr 2021 11:06:56 +1100
    20:06:59 VER binkd/1.1a-111/Linux binkp/1.1
    20:07:00 TRF 0 30242
    20:07:00 OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
    20:07:00 secure
    * 20:07:01 Rcvd 67afcd00.sa0, 9403b
    * 20:07:02 Rcvd micronet.zip, 9513b
    * 20:07:02 Rcvd 13dkejy3.tic, 940b
    * 20:07:02 Rcvd mininfo.zip, 9440b
    * 20:07:02 Rcvd 13dkejy7.tic, 946b
    = 20:07:03 hangup
    - 20:07:03 exiting

    And, lowercase ver is inside:

    H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>unzip -l micronet.zip
    Archive: micronet.zip
    Micronet Information Network nodelist for
    2 April 2021 (day 92). A friendly
    and active international BBS mail network.
    Info on how to join is in the nodelist.
    Length Date Time Name
    -------- ---- ---- ----
    164 04/02/21 05:05 file_id.diz
    25619 04/02/21 05:05 micronet.092
    -------- -------
    25783 2 files


    Aside from that, I think the "description" part may be throwing
    OFF OpenXP's nodelist processor:


    H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>unzip -l micronet.zip
    Archive: micronet.zip
    Micronet Information Network nodelist for |
    2 April 2021 (day 92). A friendly |<--THESE LINES?
    and active international BBS mail network. |
    Info on how to join is in the nodelist. |
    Length Date Time Name
    -------- ---- ---- ----
    164 04/02/21 05:05 file_id.diz
    25619 04/02/21 05:05 micronet.092
    -------- -------
    25783 2 files

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to August Abolins on Mon Apr 5 13:26:09 2021
    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: August Abolins to mark lewis on Mon Apr 05 2021 07:47:00


    "idk" - I had to look that one up! :D

    hehehe, i've been spending a lot of time with gamers and
    streamers... i'm tending to use more and more of their
    shorthand mnemonics like IDK, WDYM, ISWYD, and similar O:)

    Those are new to me too. So.. is there a new generation of
    these things now?

    i wouldn't call it a new generation... just more things are being shortened like we did 30 years ago...

    IDK = I Don't Know (you already looked up)
    WDYM = What Do You Mean
    ISWYD = I See What You Did (There)
    PFP = ProFile Picture (eg: noice PFP!)

    mainly new common phrases for the most part... there are moar but i think urban dictionary and similar cover them better than i/we could here ;)


    )\/(ark
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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to mark lewis on Mon Apr 5 17:40:21 2021
    *** Quoting mark lewis from a message to August Abolins ***

    Those are new to me too. So.. is there a new generation of these
    things now?

    mainly new common phrases for the most part... there are moar but i
    think urban dictionary and similar cover them better than i/we could
    here ;)

    One that I learned not too long ago texting with my nephew was:

    IKR which means "I Know Right?!"


    Jay

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  • From August Abolins@1:396/45.29 to mark lewis on Mon Apr 5 18:24:00 2021
    Hello mark!

    mainly new common phrases for the most part... there are
    moar but i think urban dictionary and similar cover them
    better than i/we could here ;)

    I wrote a reply to this in CHAT.


    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to mark lewis on Tue Apr 6 12:04:00 2021
    Hello mark!

    *** Sunday 04.04.21 at 10:57, mark lewis wrote to Martin Foster:

    Re: nodelist curveball
    By: Martin Foster to August Abolins on Sun Apr 04 2021 11:33:00

    Maybe, maybe not but I would say that micronet need to get their
    act together with their filenaming convention for their nodelist
    files before anyone attempts to offer a solution to your problem.

    it should be noted that the micronet ZC's modem suffered from a lightning strike and they were down until a new mpdem was procured... during this time, the nodelist and ZC activities were transferred to the 2nd "in command"... the two systems are different which explains the filename
    case differences as well as the appearance of the file_id.diz...

    OK, fine, thanks for the heads-up.

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to August Abolins on Tue Apr 6 09:25:04 2021
    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: August Abolins to mark lewis on Mon Apr 05 2021 18:24:00


    mainly new common phrases for the most part... there are
    moar but i think urban dictionary and similar cover them
    better than i/we could here ;)

    I wrote a reply to this in CHAT.

    no clue what fido echo that is...


    )\/(ark
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to mark lewis on Tue Apr 6 06:41:44 2021
    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: mark lewis to August Abolins on Tue Apr 06 2021 09:25 am

    I wrote a reply to this in CHAT.

    no clue what fido echo that is...

    That's a long time fido echo although I don't know who the moderator is or if there is one and the area is not on the backbone.

    You can connect here if you like.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to mark lewis on Tue Apr 6 10:01:00 2021
    Hello mark lewis!

    ** On Tuesday 06.04.21 - 09:25, mark lewis wrote to August Abolins:

    I wrote a reply to this in CHAT.

    no clue what fido echo that is...

    Perhaps it is one you missed:

    Echo Successfully Updated.

    TAGname: CHAT Group: FIDO

    TITLe: A general chat/discussion group.

    Language: ENGLISH

    DESCription:
    This is a place to at least start to discuss anything; however,
    if another echo exists on a specific topic the idea is to move
    the discussion to the other echo especially if the topic sought
    would be best served by the resources or userbase in the other echo.
    .
    This echo is also available for your smartphone/tablet with Telegram.
    Simply make your request with Telegram to @aabolins.
    Existing members on Telegram can add new members.
    .
    Please SIGN with your real name if requested.
    .
    RULES: Be civil.

    RULEs: {Not Found}

    MODerator: August Abolins, 2:221/1.58

    RESTrictions: /REAL

    DISTribution: Worldwide + Telegram

    From: August Abolins, 2:221/1.58

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Alan Ianson on Tue Apr 6 10:13:32 2021
    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: Alan Ianson to mark lewis on Tue Apr 06 2021 06:41:44


    I wrote a reply to this in CHAT.

    no clue what fido echo that is...

    That's a long time fido echo although I don't know who the moderator is or if there is one and the area is not on the backbone.

    i don't see it in either of my backbone.na or backbone.no lists...


    )\/(ark
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to August Abolins on Tue Apr 6 10:15:17 2021
    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: August Abolins to mark lewis on Tue Apr 06 2021 10:01:00


    I wrote a reply to this in CHAT.

    no clue what fido echo that is...

    Perhaps it is one you missed:

    actually, i do remember seeing that echolist update... the area is not on the backbone, though, so i just don't have it here... probably one of the ones that get send here by others and is just deleted because it is not in any
    of my lists... oh well...


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to mark lewis on Tue Apr 6 07:23:55 2021
    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: mark lewis to Alan Ianson on Tue Apr 06 2021 10:13 am

    i don't see it in either of my backbone.na or backbone.no lists...

    Yes, I think it rolled out of both years ago. It is a fairly active area though.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... I have a dream... C:\ 999,999,999,999 Megs free!
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to mark lewis on Tue Apr 6 07:45:48 2021
    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: mark lewis to August Abolins on Tue Apr 06 2021 10:15 am

    actually, i do remember seeing that echolist update...

    Yes, it is August's area, I remember now!

    the area is not on the backbone, though, so i just don't have it here... probably one of the ones that get send here by others and is just deleted because it is not in any of my lists... oh well...

    I am not sure if August had asked the area be added to the backbone but I did request the MUSIC area be added a while back in the Z1_BACKBONE area but so far it has not been added.

    How do we add areas to the backbone today?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Alan Ianson on Tue Apr 6 12:16:30 2021
    *** Quoting Alan Ianson from a message to mark lewis ***

    I wrote a reply to this in CHAT.

    no clue what fido echo that is...

    That's a long time fido echo although I don't know who the moderator
    is or if there is one and the area is not on the backbone.

    You can connect here if you like.. :)

    I'm connected to this echo via Nick but the last message I see in there is
    Nov 2020.

    Jay

    ... What did the sushi say to the bee? Wasabee!

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Jay Harris on Tue Apr 6 09:40:20 2021
    Re: Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: Jay Harris to Alan Ianson on Tue Apr 06 2021 12:16 pm

    I'm connected to this echo via Nick but the last message I see in there is Nov 2020.

    Something is broken there somewhere. There has been a few messages taday and yesterday as well as ...

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Alan Ianson on Tue Apr 6 16:59:54 2021
    *** Quoting Alan Ianson from a message to mark lewis ***

    ... I have a dream... C:\ 999,999,999,999 Megs free!

    That works out to...

    999999TB (Terabytes)

    -Or-

    999PB (Petabytes)

    -Or-

    0.999EB (Exabytes)

    So we still have to keep dreaming! LOL


    Jay

    ... I call things as I see them; If I didn't see them, I make them up!

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Jay Harris on Tue Apr 6 15:06:32 2021
    Re: Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: Jay Harris to Alan Ianson on Tue Apr 06 2021 04:59 pm

    ... I have a dream... C:\ 999,999,999,999 Megs free!

    That works out to...

    999999TB (Terabytes)

    -Or-

    999PB (Petabytes)

    -Or-

    0.999EB (Exabytes)

    So we still have to keep dreaming! LOL

    Yep, that was my dream in the 90's and today.. it's still a dream!

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Alan Ianson on Tue Apr 6 17:59:00 2021
    Hello Alan Ianson!

    ** On Tuesday 06.04.21 - 07:45, Alan Ianson wrote to mark lewis:

    actually, i do remember seeing that echolist update...

    Yes, it is August's area, I remember now!

    +1

    I am not sure if August had asked the area be added to the backbone but I did request the MUSIC area be added a while back in the Z1_BACKBONE area but so far it has not been added.

    I did, but the Z1_BACKBONE system/method seems to have died.

    How do we add areas to the backbone today?

    Let me know if you find out anything.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Jay Harris on Tue Apr 6 18:07:00 2021
    Hello Jay!

    ** On Tuesday 06.04.21 - 12:16, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

    I'm connected to this echo via Nick but the last message I see in there
    is Nov 2020.

    Something broke. Here are just a few back to the beginning of
    March:

    06.04 August Abolins All Case against another US intelligence offi
    05.04 August Abolins mark lewis -shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    05.04 August Abolins Wilfred van Velzen -sleet/hail, electric kWh usage
    05.04 Wilfred van Velzen August Abolins Re: electric kWh usage
    05.04 August Abolins Wilfred van Velzen -electric kWh usage
    04.04 Wilfred van Velzen August Abolins Re: electric kWh usage
    04.04 August Abolins Wilfred van Velzen -electric kWh usage
    03.04 August Abolins All vaxx deaths in UK
    03.04 August Abolins MeaTLoTioN -It was just a statement, for now. I gue
    03.04 August Abolins MeaTLoTioN -Noted. But that is why I pre-pended "so
    31.03 August Abolins All PayPal set to launch CRYPTO checkout
    31.03 Wilfred van Velzen August Abolins Re: electric kWh usage
    30.03 August Abolins All electric kWh usage
    30.03 August Abolins Wilfred van Velzen -ook and gluk - banned
    30.03 August Abolins All ook and gluk - banned
    30.03 Wilfred van Velzen August Abolins Re: ook and gluk - banned
    29.03 August Abolins All Kids? Kung-Fu booked CANNED for ?PASSIVE
    27.03 August Abolins All BREATHING is a WEAPON?
    27.03 August Abolins All I had a feeling that someone would consid
    25.03 August Abolins All A ?nose only? Covid mask ? it?s not to be
    25.03 Wilfred van Velzen All -Sales will start next Thursday?
    25.03 Wilfred van Velzen August Abolins -That's why I asked, do sales start next
    25.03 August Abolins Wilfred van Velzen -Isn't that just the stupidest thing? I
    25.03 August Abolins All ...
    25.03 Wilfred van Velzen August Abolins -Maybe you should look at the calendar...
    25.03 August Abolins Wilfred van Velzen -I don't understand the next thurs refere
    25.03 Wilfred van Velzen August Abolins -Sure! ?
    25.03 August Abolins Wilfred van Velzen -According to the vid, they *already* exi
    25.03 Wilfred van Velzen August Abolins -What else could it be? ?
    25.03 August Abolins Wilfred van Velzen -nose-only covid mask = fake news? At the
    24.03 August Abolins All nostalgia: postcards,stories +other
    22.03 August Abolins All vaccine does not work for 5% of people
    21.03 August Abolins Wilfred van Velzen -This is the result of keeping 60% of the
    09.03 August Abolins All banned/challenged books
    03.03 August Abolins Wilfred van Velzen -This is the result of keeping 60% of the
    --
    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to mark lewis on Tue Apr 6 18:09:00 2021
    Hello mark!

    ** On Tuesday 06.04.21 - 10:13, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

    That's a long time fido echo although I don't know who the moderator is
    or if there is one and the area is not on the backbone.

    i don't see it in either of my backbone.na or backbone.no lists...


    Janis has it though:


    ==============================================================
    ECHOMAIL STATISTICS ==============================================================



    Echomail Statistics
    Last 7 days
    By Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, janis@filegate.net


    Unsorted: Sorted: Percent
    ======== ======= =======
    [snip]
    11 CHAT 8 ELIST 0.22 %

    [snip]
    1 BLUEWAVE 11 CHAT 0.31 %


    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Alan Ianson on Tue Apr 6 21:45:27 2021
    *** Quoting Alan Ianson from a message to Jay Harris ***

    ... I have a dream... C:\ 999,999,999,999 Megs free!

    That works out to...
    0.999EB (Exabytes)

    So we still have to keep dreaming! LOL

    Yep, that was my dream in the 90's and today.. it's still a dream!

    I have a 20TB NAS downstairs with 6.8TB free, I'm not sure what I'd do with
    a petabyte let alone an exabyte.


    Jay

    ... The older you get, the more important is is not to act your age.

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to August Abolins on Tue Apr 6 21:46:48 2021
    *** Quoting August Abolins from a message to Alan Ianson ***

    How do we add areas to the backbone today?

    Let me know if you find out anything.

    Yeah, ditto. When I (re)-added TG_SUPPORT to the ELIST it wasn't showing up on Agency, then it did, now it isn't again.

    Jay

    ... Thanks for explaining the word "many" to me, it means a lot

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Alan Ianson on Wed Apr 7 06:31:17 2021
    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: Alan Ianson to mark lewis on Tue Apr 06 2021 07:45:48


    How do we add areas to the backbone today?

    the same way as has always been done... post in the Z1 backbone echo a *copy* of the echolist reply with the proper subject line... that method hasn't changed in well over a decade... the only thing right now is that we don't
    currently have an official admin person to handle the actual updates to the na/no lists and there's been no discussion of such between the stars...


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to August Abolins on Wed Apr 7 06:32:31 2021
    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: August Abolins to mark lewis on Tue Apr 06 2021 18:09:00


    i don't see it in either of my backbone.na or backbone.no lists...

    Janis has it though:

    that doesn't mean it is on the backbone, though... remember, the backbone.na and backbone.no lists of echo files are what determines if an echo is on the backbone or not...


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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to mark lewis on Wed Apr 7 13:13:00 2021
    Hello mark!

    *** Tuesday 06.04.21 at 10:13, mark lewis wrote to Alan Ianson:

    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: Alan Ianson to mark lewis on Tue Apr 06 2021 06:41:44

    I wrote a reply to this in CHAT.

    no clue what fido echo that is...

    That's a long time fido echo although I don't know who the moderator is
    or if there is one and the area is not on the backbone.

    i don't see it in either of my backbone.na or backbone.no lists...

    It's listed in ELIST.NA, if that's of any use.

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Jay Harris on Wed Apr 7 09:44:00 2021
    Hello Jay Harris!

    ** On Tuesday 06.04.21 - 21:45, Jay Harris wrote to Alan Ianson:

    ... I have a dream... C:\ 999,999,999,999 Megs free! Yep,
    that was my dream in the 90's and today.. it's still a
    dream!

    I have a 20TB NAS downstairs with 6.8TB free, I'm not sure
    what I'd do with a petabyte let alone an exabyte.

    Wow. Hard to let go of stuff even when it's digital, eh?

    The files act as memories though, don't they? Hard to let go of
    a file when it "brings back" a memory of it and the story behind
    it.

    It's much like that with books for me. I don't necessarily want
    to get rid of a book, even though I've read it. I want to be
    able to look at the book and recall the times and circumstances
    around it.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to mark lewis on Wed Apr 7 09:49:00 2021
    Hello mark lewis!

    ** On Wednesday 07.04.21 - 06:32, mark lewis wrote to August Abolins:

    Janis has it though:

    that doesn't mean it is on the backbone, though...
    remember, the backbone.na and backbone.no lists of echo
    files are what determines if an echo is on the backbone or
    not...

    Ok. But the new elist guy isn't distributing the those like
    Ben Ritchey did.

    I just noticed that Vince (new Elist guy) posted some
    instructions in z1_backbone on how to accomplish a backbone
    listing.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to August Abolins on Wed Apr 7 12:31:07 2021
    *** Quoting August Abolins from a message to Jay Harris ***

    I have a 20TB NAS downstairs with 6.8TB free, I'm not sure what I'd
    do with a petabyte let alone an exabyte.

    Wow. Hard to let go of stuff even when it's digital, eh?

    A lot of is is ripped DVDs. Several years ago I just HAD to have every TV show I watch on DVD, which was awesome at the time, but then became a pain when you'd be done a disc and *gasp* now you have to get up and change a
    disc.

    Now they're all ripped and sitting there on the NAS so I can watch from the the Apple TV in the living room or on my laptop in my office when I'm working from home. I have everything from all seasons of Friends, Will & Grace, Star Trek: TNG, Voyager & Enterprise (just to name a few) on there to any movie I've ever bought ripped.

    The next biggest amount of storage is laptop & PC backups. They automaticly backup there over the network and keep a few versions in case you want to
    roll back to a certain point in time. My Telegard backup is only 240MB so I keep a month at a time whereas my laptop backup is just under 100GB.


    Jay

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Martin Foster on Wed Apr 7 13:02:47 2021
    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: Martin Foster to mark lewis on Wed Apr 07 2021 13:13:00


    i don't see it in either of my backbone.na or backbone.no lists...

    It's listed in ELIST.NA, if that's of any use.

    yeah, that's from the echolist... nothing to do with the backbone but the backbone does use the echolist for certain things...


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to August Abolins on Wed Apr 7 13:20:58 2021
    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: August Abolins to mark lewis on Wed Apr 07 2021 09:49:00


    that doesn't mean it is on the backbone, though...
    remember, the backbone.na and backbone.no lists of echo
    files are what determines if an echo is on the backbone or
    not...

    Ok. But the new elist guy isn't distributing the those
    like Ben Ritchey did.

    ben was wearing two separate and distinct hats... one for the echolist and one for the backbone... i suspct he also tried to combine some things but none of it was ever discussed with the backbone stars...

    I just noticed that Vince (new Elist guy) posted some
    instructions in z1_backbone on how to accomplish a backbone
    listing.

    i've not seen it yet... i'll take a look...


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to mark lewis on Wed Apr 7 11:43:35 2021
    Re: shorthand mnemonics like IDK
    By: mark lewis to Alan Ianson on Wed Apr 07 2021 06:31 am

    the same way as has always been done... post in the Z1 backbone echo a *copy* of the echolist reply with the proper subject line... that method hasn't changed in well over a decade... the only thing right now is that we don't currently have an official admin person to handle the actual updates to the na/no lists and there's been no discussion of such between the stars...

    If the backbone hubs want someone from the outside you could pass my name around, I wouldn't mind helping out.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Jay Harris on Wed Apr 7 18:20:00 2021
    Hello Jay!

    ** On Wednesday 07.04.21 - 12:31, you wrote wrote to me:

    Wow. Hard to let go of stuff even when it's digital, eh?

    A lot of is is ripped DVDs. Several years ago I just HAD to have every
    TV show I watch on DVD, which was awesome at the time, but then..

    I am working on a reply. Will post it to CHAT echo.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to mark lewis on Wed Apr 7 18:29:00 2021
    Hello mark lewis!

    ** On Wednesday 07.04.21 - 13:02, mark lewis wrote to Martin Foster:

    i don't see it in either of my backbone.na or backbone.no lists...

    It's listed in ELIST.NA, if that's of any use.

    yeah, that's from the echolist... nothing to do with the
    backbone but the backbone does use the echolist for certain
    things...

    K. I understand backbone.NA/NO to be a North American + Z1
    thing. Noted. So, the ELIST is a kind of global list, and
    backbone is Z1 only.



    --
    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to mark lewis on Wed Apr 7 18:43:00 2021
    Hello mark!

    ** On Wednesday 07.04.21 - 13:20, you wrote to me:

    ben was wearing two separate and distinct hats... one for
    the echolist and one for the backbone... i suspct he also
    tried to combine some things but none of it was ever
    discussed with the backbone stars...

    AH. Noted.

    I just noticed that Vince (new Elist guy) posted some
    instructions in z1_backbone on how to accomplish a
    backbone listing.

    i've not seen it yet... i'll take a look...

    I think he's referring to getting a listing in ELIST/echolist.
    There is nothing in his docs about backbone.na. Considering
    that Vince C is centred in Europe, it may not be surprising that
    he is uninformed about the backbone.na/no system.




    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to August Abolins on Wed Apr 7 19:40:31 2021
    *** Quoting August Abolins from a message to Jay Harris ***

    I am working on a reply. Will post it to CHAT echo.

    I don't get any new messages in there, last messages was in Nov 2020.

    Jay

    ... Everyone has his day, and some days last longer than others.

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to August Abolins on Wed Apr 7 19:50:44 2021
    *** Quoting August Abolins from a message to Jay Harris ***

    I'm connected to this echo via Nick but the last message I see in there
    is Nov 2020.

    Something broke. Here are just a few back to the beginning of
    March:

    06.04 August Abolins All Case against another
    US intelligence offi 05.04 August Abolins mark lewis
    -shorthand mnemonics like IDK 05.04 August Abolins Wilfred van

    Could you post some of the kludge lines for these messages?

    I'd be interested in knowing there the break in the link is betwen point A
    and 1:229/426 where I get my messages from.


    Jay

    ... First secure an independent income, then practice virtue.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Jay Harris on Wed Apr 7 17:12:48 2021
    Hello Jay,

    Could you post some of the kludge lines for these messages?

    These are the seen bys I see here. Quite short..


    SEEN+BY: 106/127 153/757 221/1 6 280/464 335/364 460/58 256 777 1124 5858 SEEN+BY: 4500/1 5054/30
    @PATH: 460/256 58 221/6

    I'd be interested in knowing there the break in the link is betwen
    point A and 1:229/426 where I get my messages from.

    I'm not sure where 229/426 is linked or why it's broken but you are welcome to link here if that would help.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Jay Harris on Wed Apr 7 21:03:00 2021
    Hello Jay!

    I am working on a reply. Will post it to CHAT echo.

    I don't get any new messages in there, last messages was in Nov 2020.

    Yes.. I read that you mentioned that before. Hopefully your
    feed will re-supply it and then you can %rescan.


    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to August Abolins on Wed Apr 7 21:20:18 2021
    *** Quoting August Abolins from a message to Jay Harris ***

    Yes.. I read that you mentioned that before. Hopefully your feed
    will re-supply it and then you can %rescan.

    1:229/426 doesn't support %RESCAN either... :(

    Jay

    ... I may not be totally perfect, but parts of me are excellent.
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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Jay Harris on Wed Apr 7 21:37:00 2021
    Hello Jay!

    Could you post some of the kludge lines for these messages?

    I'd be interested in knowing there the break in the link is betwen point
    A and 1:229/426 where I get my messages from.

    Ideally, I think you would need some samples that have postings
    in Z1. The only one originating from Z1 is this one in January:

    EMP: /FIDO/CHAT
    ABS: Charles Pierson@1:106/127
    BET: Re: deaf and dumb
    ROT: 2:221/1!106/127 221/6 1
    MID: 1:106/127 a2c6f3b4
    EDA: 20210127144500W-6
    LEN: 1180
    BEZ: 1:153/757.21@fidonet eccda8cf
    MAILER: Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    X_C:
    X-XP-NTP: 30
    F-TO: August Abolins
    U-TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A46

    ..but I think Charles was getting his feed in Z2.


    --
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