• Detours

    From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Tue Jun 18 07:40:30 2019
    Daryl wrote --

    It's more like a spoon with a hole in it, to make up for all the
    potholes.

    I have noticed something on this trip.
    It seems something like 99.9 per cent of any manhole cover on a street
    is where one or the other of your tyres will pass over. Tump-tump.
    Why can't they be more centered???
    Joe
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Jun 18 10:14:32 2019

    On 2019 Jun 18 07:40:30, you wrote to DARYL STOUT:

    It's more like a spoon with a hole in it, to make up for all the
    potholes.

    I have noticed something on this trip. It seems something like 99.9
    per cent of any manhole cover on a street is where one or the other of your tyres will pass over. Tump-tump. Why can't they be more
    centered???

    they likely were when they were installed... it is possible that the roads have been widened somewhat over time... they only put more road surface down and do not dig up all the drainage to move it over...

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Sat Jun 22 08:12:18 2019
    Nancy wrote --

    I've been up to the Pond for close to a week

    Hope you had a good time.

    As I wend my way around the country its a measure of both.

    What about in that particular case...?

    I wound up where I wanted to be. :)

    One of these days, I might be driving there... we lived there (in Crawfordsville) for 2 years when I was a little kid... I'd like to see
    if I could find the house we lived in then... :)

    The places I lived in Colorado Springs, CO are gone.
    The two places in the little town of Trinidad, CO are still there.
    I was tempted to knock on the door of this one place, which has been "restored" to ask to look around, but then thought better of it. Partly because
    I couldn't remember the landladies name. :)
    I imagine I would get a well than warm welcome as a stranger wanting to
    come in and look around someone's house. :)

    Some states one can drive for miles without any signs at all and go far
    afield then have to find some connecting road or back track.

    That can waste a lot of time... and/or lead to some interesting explorations.... <G>

    The only time I had a unmarked detour was due to an accident and that was understandable. And I saw a lot more of TN than I planning on. :)

    That's why I patronize AAA.... Generally I can get a stack of maps
    before I leave on a trip, from broad coverage to city maps

    The atlas had insets for big cities which was useful.
    In addition when I connected to the net using the free wifi of a
    particular FF place, Apple maps would show not only where I was, but how to get to
    where I wanted to be.
    A day or so out I would check the net "for things to do in" whatever
    town I was closing in on. It also gave directions on how to get to that place.
    I would map out my journey a couple of days ahead that way.
    Plus I had a half sheet of paper with notes reading "Rt X to Rt Y" which
    I could glance at when needed. (Have a stack of those).
    Lots of places I would check Apple Maps for more detailed information.

    I guess I'd noticed that.... but then I tend to use the interstates more
    than you

    Interstates are fine if one is in a hurry, which I wasn't.
    On interstates its the same exits, the same FF places, etc. One has no
    idea where they are. And if there is some attraction one wants to see its miles away (as a rule), whereas on the old road it just off to the side.
    And everyone isn't a speed demon on the older roads.
    One sees more of the country, large and small towns, its a slower drive.
    I am far more comfortable driving 50 mph than 70 or more.
    Plus, if you miss your turn you can just make a U turn or some business
    to go back rather than drive 20 miles to the next exit.

    One place I stopped sold real paper maps and paid for one only to
    find where I was going (a few miles away) had them for free. :(

    That was a bummer... Another good reason to have gotten them beforehand
    at AAA.

    Since I don't own a car I didn't want to join just for some maps. :)
    I was a member one time and was planning a cross country trip moving back
    to CO from WV and wanted the scenic route via GA, etc.
    The woman at AAA said "but the interstate is much faster" I told her I
    was in no hurry, I wanted to see things. It took a while for her to
    comprehend I didn't want interstates.
    Of course she had to plot everything out rather than draw a straight
    line. :)

    Joe (in El Dorado, AR)

    You are certainly getting around... :)

    Back home now.
    I would love to do this again someday, seeing places I missed.
    Joe
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Jun 27 20:38:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 06-22-19 08:12 <=-

    I've been up to the Pond for close to a week

    Hope you had a good time.

    Mostly... <G> This trip was to get my son back into the States and get
    his Jeep up and running... Involved lots of driving.... maybe not more
    than yours, but I did put 1400 miles on my car in just a week....

    As I wend my way around the country its a measure of both.
    What about in that particular case...?

    I wound up where I wanted to be. :)

    That's the important thing.... :)

    One of these days, I might be driving there... we lived there (in Crawfordsville) for 2 years when I was a little kid... I'd like to see
    if I could find the house we lived in then... :)

    The places I lived in Colorado Springs, CO are gone.
    The two places in the little town of Trinidad, CO are still there.

    At least some of it was still there... :)

    I was tempted to knock on the door of this one place, which has been "restored" to ask to look around, but then thought better of it.
    Partly because I couldn't remember the landladies name. :)
    I imagine I would get a well than warm welcome as a stranger wanting
    to come in and look around someone's house. :)

    My experience has been that most people are quite willing to let a
    former resident, or descendent of a former owner/resident see what it's become.... they like the connection to the past through a real person,
    too... ;)

    Some states one can drive for miles without any signs at all and
    go far afield then have to find some connecting road or back track.
    That can waste a lot of time... and/or lead to some interesting explorations.... <G>

    The only time I had a unmarked detour was due to an accident and
    that was understandable. And I saw a lot more of TN than I planning
    on. :)

    With an accident, one hopes that the cars in front of one know where
    they are going, and one can safely follow them.... :)

    That's why I patronize AAA.... Generally I can get a stack of maps
    before I leave on a trip, from broad coverage to city maps

    The atlas had insets for big cities which was useful.
    In addition when I connected to the net using the free wifi of a particular FF place, Apple maps would show not only where I was, but
    how to get to where I wanted to be.
    A day or so out I would check the net "for things to do in"
    whatever town I was closing in on. It also gave directions on how to
    get to that place. I would map out my journey a couple of days ahead
    that way. Plus I had a half sheet of paper with notes reading "Rt X
    to Rt Y" which I could glance at when needed. (Have a stack of those). Lots of places I would check Apple Maps for more detailed
    information.

    Sounds like it worked out ok for you, then... :)

    I guess I'd noticed that.... but then I tend to use the interstates
    more than you
    Interstates are fine if one is in a hurry, which I wasn't.
    On interstates its the same exits, the same FF places, etc. One has
    no idea where they are. And if there is some attraction one wants to
    see its miles away (as a rule), whereas on the old road it just off to
    the side. And everyone isn't a speed demon on the older roads.
    One sees more of the country, large and small towns, its a slower
    drive. I am far more comfortable driving 50 mph than 70 or more.
    Plus, if you miss your turn you can just make a U turn or some
    business to go back rather than drive 20 miles to the next exit.

    All (mostly/generally) true.... :) I'll take interstates when they
    actually are the most direct way to get where I need to go, and
    especially when it will be a fairly straight shot to a major place, like
    on this last trip that started with a trip to the Montreal Airport... I
    used the back roads all through the US up to the bridge to cross over
    into Canada, and then headed for the 401 that went directly to the
    airport... I'd stayed in NYS longer than my original routing,
    particularly to avoid a LOT of construction on the interstate on the
    section between the bridge I was supposed to have taken and the one I
    did take....

    One place I stopped sold real paper maps and paid for one only to
    find where I was going (a few miles away) had them for free. :(
    That was a bummer... Another good reason to have gotten them beforehand
    at AAA.

    Since I don't own a car I didn't want to join just for some maps.
    :) I was a member one time and was planning a cross country trip
    moving back to CO from WV and wanted the scenic route via GA, etc.
    The woman at AAA said "but the interstate is much faster" I told
    her I was in no hurry, I wanted to see things. It took a while for her
    to comprehend I didn't want interstates.

    I've generally had better luck with the trip counselors I get.... I just
    tell them up front what sort of roads I prefer... and often I've had
    ones that totally agree with me.... :) And besides, the interstate
    isn't necessarily all that much faster, and sometimes takes one further
    out of the way so even though one is going faster, one doesn't get there
    any sooner.... :)

    Of course she had to plot everything out rather than draw a
    straight line. :)

    Not all interstates are the straight line, though.... <G>

    Joe (in El Dorado, AR)
    You are certainly getting around... :)

    Back home now.
    I would love to do this again someday, seeing places I missed.

    Start planning your route now....? <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Fri Jun 28 06:37:12 2019
    Nancy wrote --

    With an accident, one hopes that the cars in front of one know where
    they are going, and one can safely follow them.... :)

    On my trip I saw only two accidents.
    The first was in Colorado where an SUV was on its top and cars just
    directed around it. (Didn't see a second car anywhere).
    The other was the accident in TN.
    The interstate between here and Charleston (the capitol and about 50
    miles away) seems to be accident alley. There seems to be at least one on a daily basis. And even for something minor like a fender bender the whole section is shut down for miles with t
    The few times I was on an interstate I liked the signs that directed
    people if not major to move the cars off the road.
    Here its always a big deal for anything. ==sigh==

    All (mostly/generally) true.... :) I'll take interstates when they
    actually are the most direct way to get where I need to go, and
    especially when it will be a fairly straight shot to a major place

    If one is driving from point A to B, and somewhat of a time limit, that's fine.
    I had no time limits (after the first few stops) for the most part.
    I usually started looking for a place for the night around 3 knowing I
    would have a better chance of finding something.
    I used the booking.com app on the phone sometimes (when I could get a
    free wifi signal) for upcoming big towns and check room rates, location, etc. I found I could book a room in less than 30 minutes before a planned check
    in. Smaller places I just took th
    I preferred staying at small "mom and pop" places. They were always
    good, "homey" and they need the business that big chains take away.

    isn't necessarily all that much faster, and sometimes takes one further
    out of the way so even though one is going faster, one doesn't get there any
    sooner.... :)

    I remember a couple of times I'd missed a turn and driving around
    aimlessly and thinking "I don't know where I am going but I'm making good time."
    :)

    I would love to do this again someday, seeing places I missed.

    Start planning your route now....? <G>

    There is so much of this country to see!
    Joe
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to JOE MACKEY on Fri Jun 28 18:00:58 2019

    On 2019 Jun 28 06:37:12, you wrote to NANCY BACKUS:

    The interstate between here and Charleston (the capitol and about 50 miles away) seems to be accident alley. There seems to be at least one
    on
    a daily basis. And even for something minor like a fender bender the
    whole
    section is shut down for miles with t

    the above paragraph was just cut off right there...

    I used the booking.com app on the phone sometimes (when I could get a free wifi signal) for upcoming big towns and check room rates, location, etc. I found I could book a room in less than 30 minutes before a planned check in. Smaller places I just took th

    this one was cut off right there... this seems to be a common occurance with your posts... i've not said anything until now... i have my suspicions as to where the problem is but i won't voice them here right now... i don't know what to suggest other than writing more and thusly shorter paragraphs... i can't tell if it is a line/paragraph length problem on the BBS you are uploading to or what...

    to try to explain that: today's systems use one long line per paragraph instead of numerous lines of specific lengths like we used to do in days past... if lines are longer than the buffers allocated to them, they get truncated and the additional characters are lost... we mainly saw this when quoting but in some cases, it happens on import...

    it is a bug or design flaw in the software accepting the postings... they should be checking the length of the input data against the size of the buffer and processing in chunks until all the data is handled... for some reason, they're filling the buffer and then stuffing it into another shorter buffer without length checks and so the tail ends of some of your paragraphs are being cut off...

    if you reread your messages on the system you are uploading them to, you should see the problem and be able to report it to your operator so they can report it to the software maintainer... if you are using news to read and write your messages, you may want to download your messages from the server again so you can see them and not your local copy if there is one...

    i tried to not be too technical but i don't know if i was successful or not :(

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to MARK LEWIS on Sat Jun 29 06:34:42 2019
    Mark wrote --

    whole section is shut down for miles with t

    the above paragraph was just cut off right there...

    I went back and checked and sure enough it did. Don't know if something
    I did or what.
    I'll be more careful with shorter paragraphs from henceforth. :)
    The original ended a sentence or so late, with "traffic detoured to the
    old road for miles" or some such. :)
    Nothing so important that it would be remembered 100 years from now, or
    even a few minutes from now. :)

    check in. Smaller places I just took th

    this one was cut off right there... this seems to be a common occurance with
    your posts... i've not said anything until now

    Wish I had known sooner.

    i tried to not be too technical

    Thank you. :)

    but i don't know if i was successful or not :(

    You were. :)
    Joe
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Jun 29 22:25:32 2019

    On 2019 Jun 29 06:34:42, you wrote to me:

    whole section is shut down for miles with t

    the above paragraph was just cut off right there...

    I went back and checked and sure enough it did. Don't know if
    something I did or what.

    like i wrote before, i think it is something with long line processing in the system you are connecting to... that's a eWAG, though... t-bird won't be cutting them off... it has to be upstream from you :/

    I'll be more careful with shorter paragraphs from henceforth. :)

    :)

    Nothing so important that it would be remembered 100 years from now, or even a few minutes from now. :)

    true...

    i've not said anything until now

    Wish I had known sooner.

    i probably should have said something sooner, too... i'm kiinda surprised that no one else has noticed it and said anything :?

    i tried to not be too technical

    Thank you. :)

    welcome :)

    but i don't know if i was successful or not :(

    You were. :)

    excellent! -=B-)

    )\/(ark

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to MARK LEWIS on Mon Jul 1 06:48:48 2019
    Mark wrote --

    like i wrote before, i think it is something with long line processing in
    the system you are connecting to... that's a eWAG, though... t-bird won't be cutting them off... it has to be upstream from you :/

    I use Doc's Place.
    I had been using Thunderbird at one time but after an upgrade it would no longer recognise whatever system I was on so back to Doc.

    Wish I had known sooner.

    i probably should have said something sooner, too... i'm kiinda surprised
    that no one else has noticed it and said anything :?

    Or even read anything. :)
    Well, if nothing else this brought you out of lurk mode. :)
    Joe
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Jul 1 08:21:14 2019

    On 2019 Jul 01 06:48:48, you wrote to me:

    like i wrote before, i think it is something with long line
    processing in the system you are connecting to... that's a eWAG,
    though... t-bird won't be cutting them off... it has to be upstream
    from you :/

    I use Doc's Place.

    yeah, i know :)

    I had been using Thunderbird at one time but after an upgrade it would
    no longer recognise whatever system I was on so back to Doc.

    you were using my system for a while but the lastread pointer problem was too annoying... you went to doc's then but i thought you were still using t-bird from there...

    i've got a whole different BBS setup now, thanks to hurricane florence last year... it is a lot different and doesn't have that lastread pointer problem... plus it is an all-in-one setup instead of being lotsa pieces cobbled together like my last one was...

    i've got an account set up for you but i forget if i've emailed the details to you... you can use t-bird to pull messages as news like you were doing, or you can use a web browser and the web interface, or even log into the BBS via a terminal program like syncterm or netrunner... if you log in, you can do messages live or download/upload QWK packets if you still do them...

    Wish I had known sooner.

    i probably should have said something sooner, too... i'm kiinda
    surprised that no one else has noticed it and said anything :?

    Or even read anything. :)

    hehehe...

    Well, if nothing else this brought you out of lurk mode. :)

    well, kinda... for a little bit, i guess...

    )\/(ark

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to MARK LEWIS on Tue Jul 2 05:43:48 2019
    Mark wrote --

    you went to doc's then but i thought you were still using t-bird
    from there...

    IIRC I was having trouble with T-bird recognising your system and been
    using Doc's in Firefox.

    i've got an account set up for you but i forget if i've emailed the details
    to you

    Let's try again. :)
    joemackey108 at comcast.net

    Well, if nothing else this brought you out of lurk mode. :)

    well, kinda... for a little bit, i guess...

    And since I have concluded by grand tour and passed through your area and gone its safe to come out of hiding again. :)
    Joe
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Jul 2 12:53:28 2019

    On 2019 Jul 02 05:43:48, you wrote to me:

    you went to doc's then but i thought you were still using t-bird from
    there...

    IIRC I was having trouble with T-bird recognising your system and been using Doc's in Firefox.

    that might have been because i had to drop my old dynip.com domain... didn't have the $$$ to toss at it for another year :?

    i've got an account set up for you but i forget if i've emailed the
    details to you

    Let's try again. :)
    joemackey108 at comcast.net

    yup, that's the address i have... i'll try to get something out to you shortly... i need to check on the syntax again...

    Well, if nothing else this brought you out of lurk mode. :)

    well, kinda... for a little bit, i guess...

    And since I have concluded by grand tour and passed through your area
    and gone its safe to come out of hiding again. :)

    i started to ask you how close you were going to be so maybe we could meet... unfortunately i was dealing with an extremely rough patch of life at that time... still am but not quite as bad as it was...

    )\/(ark

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Jul 2 18:23:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 06-28-19 06:37 <=-

    With an accident, one hopes that the cars in front of one know where
    they are going, and one can safely follow them.... :)

    On my trip I saw only two accidents.
    The first was in Colorado where an SUV was on its top and cars just directed around it. (Didn't see a second car anywhere).

    Guess someone was a little careless, and the SUV was just a bit
    top-heavy.... I'd guess just a one-car accident....

    The other was the accident in TN.
    The interstate between here and Charleston (the capitol and about 50
    miles away) seems to be accident alley. There seems to be at least
    one on a daily basis. And even for something minor like a fender
    bender the whole section is shut down for miles with t

    (missing....?) We have spots in town that almost always show up on the accident reports on the radio each morning... not sure quite why certain
    spots just attract accidents, though....

    The few times I was on an interstate I liked the signs that directed people if not major to move the cars off the road.
    Here its always a big deal for anything. ==sigh==

    I've seen those, too... :)

    All (mostly/generally) true.... :) I'll take interstates when they
    actually are the most direct way to get where I need to go, and
    especially when it will be a fairly straight shot to a major place

    If one is driving from point A to B, and somewhat of a time limit,
    that's fine.

    Generally that ends up being the case when I've decided to take a toll
    road, such as the NYS Thruway.... Long stretches, I like to have some be
    back roads and some the expressways.... although, in some cases, like
    going into the North Country (upper NYS), I more and more avoid the
    expressways more often than not.... :) My bottom line is avoiding
    hassles wherever possible... ;)

    I had no time limits (after the first few stops) for the most part.
    I usually started looking for a place for the night around 3 knowing
    I would have a better chance of finding something.
    I used the booking.com app on the phone sometimes (when I could get
    a free wifi signal) for upcoming big towns and check room rates,
    location, etc. I found I could book a room in less than 30 minutes
    before a planned check in. Smaller places I just took th

    (the first place you saw...?)

    I preferred staying at small "mom and pop" places. They were always
    good, "homey" and they need the business that big chains take away.

    True.... I tend to just stay with friends and family of some sort, and
    plan the trips accordingly.... only occasionally have I stayed in some
    sort of hotel/motel....

    isn't necessarily all that much faster, and sometimes takes one further
    out of the way so even though one is going faster, one doesn't get there
    any sooner.... :)
    I remember a couple of times I'd missed a turn and driving around aimlessly and thinking "I don't know where I am going but I'm making
    good time." :)

    At least you are still enjoying yourself... that's the important
    thing... ;)

    I would love to do this again someday, seeing places I missed.
    Start planning your route now....? <G>

    There is so much of this country to see!

    That there is.... I doubt I'll ever see all that I'd like to see... but
    I've seen quite a bit over the years, as it is.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MARK LEWIS on Tue Jul 2 19:19:00 2019
    Quoting Mark Lewis to Joe Mackey on 06-28-19 18:04 <=-

    The interstate between here and Charleston (the capitol and about 50
    miles away) seems to be accident alley. There seems to be at least one
    on a daily basis. And even for something minor like a fender bender the
    whole section is shut down for miles with t

    the above paragraph was just cut off right there...

    yes I noticed that also....

    I used the booking.com app on the phone sometimes (when I could get a
    free wifi signal) for upcoming big towns and check room rates, location,
    etc. I found I could book a room in less than 30 minutes before a planned
    check in. Smaller places I just took th

    this one was cut off right there... this seems to be a common
    occurance with your posts... i've not said anything until now... i have
    my suspicions as to where the problem is but i won't voice them here
    right now... i don't know what to suggest other than writing more and thusly shorter paragraphs... i can't tell if it is a line/paragraph
    length problem on the BBS you are uploading to or what...

    Interestingly, I don't recall having him having had this issue
    previously... only in this set of travelogue posts.... Maybe he usually
    does write shorter paragraphs.... or something recently changed
    somewhere....

    ttyl neb

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to MARK LEWIS on Wed Jul 3 07:10:56 2019
    Mark wrote --

    yup, that's the address i have... i'll try to get something out to you shortly... i need to check on the syntax again...

    They got a tax on that now too? :)
    Be good to have, if nothing else, a backup.

    i started to ask you how close you were going to be so maybe we could
    meet...

    From Ed's it was a straight shot across KY though Frankfort.
    I waved in all directions as I passed. :)

    unfortunately i was dealing with an extremely rough patch of life at that
    time...

    I know how that goes.
    Joe
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Jun 19 16:43:00 2019
    Joe,

    Why can't they be more centered???

    What's more important is "Why don't potholes put your shock absorbers
    BACX into alignment??".

    There will be a considerable delay in repairing the potholes around
    the area. We regret to inform you that the pothole repair truck fell
    into a pothole!! :P

    So much for "your tax dollars at work"??

    Daryl

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