• game of memories..

    From August Abolins@2:221/1.59 to JOE MACKEY on Thu May 23 21:52:18 2019
    //Hello JOE, //

    Not sure what to contribute.

    Jump in when you feel like it. :) Joe


    Any Game of Thrones (GoT) readers or viewers here? In the last episode (without giving out any spoilers) one character refers to another as "the keeper of our memories". This echo is Memories.. this is my clever segue into a new topic. :)

    I am totally astonished at the vast number and diversity of characters that George R.R. Martin portrays in his epic series. I would imagine that he has a large family/geneology-tree diagram on a wall to help him keep track of all relations.

    I started following the GoT tv series, and "cheated" by looking for specific story lines in the books to get more details. There is so much more complexity, and great dialog in the books than in the tv series.

    Although the tv series has come to an imagined conclusion by the film team, the book series has not. The author may surely produce an alternative (and maybe an even more satisfying) ending.


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Mon May 27 21:30:00 2019
    Quoting August Abolins to Joe Mackey on 05-23-19 21:48 <=-

    Any Game of Thrones (GoT) readers or viewers here? In the last
    episode (without giving out any spoilers) one character refers to
    another as "the keeper of our memories". This echo is Memories.. this
    is my clever segue into a new topic. :)

    Clever enough... <G> I've not seen any episodes, merely heard about
    the series.... I might have read an early volume of the series, a long
    time ago, but I'm not sure if I did or not.... I've read a lot of
    science fiction/fantasy over the years.... :)

    I am totally astonished at the vast number and diversity of characters that George R.R. Martin portrays in his epic series. I would imagine
    that he has a large family/geneology-tree diagram on a wall to help him keep track of all relations.

    Possibly... or at least a chart that he keeps current... like any family historian might have to do to keep track of a large (and rapidly
    growing) extended family... :)

    I started following the GoT tv series, and "cheated" by looking for specific story lines in the books to get more details. There is so
    much more complexity, and great dialog in the books than in the tv
    series.
    Although the tv series has come to an imagined conclusion by the film team, the book series has not. The author may surely produce an alternative (and maybe an even more satisfying) ending.

    Books often have a lot more richness than TV shows or movies.... it's
    often surprising (and gratifying) when a show or movie actually does a creditable job of covering an entire book... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.59 to NANCY BACKUS on Tue May 28 20:45:45 2019
    //Hallo NANCY, //

    am *27.05.19* um *21:30:00* schriebst Du..

    Game of Thrones (GoT)..
    ..one character refers to another as
    "the keeper of our memories". This echo is Memories.. this is my clever
    segue into a new topic. :)

    Clever enough... <G> I've not seen any episodes, merely heard about the series.... I might have read an early volume of the series, a long time ago, but I'm not sure if I did or not.... I've read a lot of science fiction/fantasy over the years.... :)

    Have you read the Gentleman Bastard series by Scott Lynch? Currently:

    [1] The Lies of Locke Lamora
    [2] Red Seas Under Red Skies
    [3] The Republic of Thieves
    [4] The Thorn of Emberlain: scheduled for late 2021!

    If not.. It's pseudo-pirate sci-fi/fantasy adventure. I am sure you know how to dig up reviews if you are curious to learn more. People who have explored Brandon Sanderson and Robert Jordan have let me know that they appreciated the steer to Scott Lynch. It is only a trilogy sofar, unlike the +12 volume series of the other authors, but it's hard to be patient for #4!

    Another amazing story series: Kingkiller Chronicles, by Patrick Rothfuss.

    [1] Name of the Wind (Day 1)
    [2] Wise Man's Fear (Day 2)
    [3] <TBD>

    Each volume (and both are over 700pages) covers the events of one day! This is another series that one just can't seem to wait to continue.


    Books often have a lot more richness than TV shows or movies.... it's often surprising (and gratifying) when a show or movie actually does a creditable job of covering an entire book... :)

    I can't think of too many film/book combos that I've come across that were "true and complete" to the original book, and ofcourse I wouldn't be able to remember what I saw.

    The first Harry Potter film followed the events in the first book VERY close and complete.

    One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is another book/film near match.

    But.. films being typically limited to about 100 minutes couldn't possibly be "complete" in every detail, and that is appreciated.

    For a crazy "study" I watched all the film adaptations of The Great Gatsby a few years ago. Each film deviated from the original story in their own way and even injected a director's own ideas. For me, bottom line: the book is often better - where my own imagination can generate the scenes and settings.



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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Thu May 30 20:20:00 2019
    Quoting August Abolins to Nancy Backus on 05-28-19 20:41 <=-

    Clever enough... <G> I've not seen any episodes, merely heard about
    the series.... I might have read an early volume of the series, a long
    time ago, but I'm not sure if I did or not.... I've read a lot of
    science fiction/fantasy over the years.... :)

    Have you read the Gentleman Bastard series by Scott Lynch? Currently:
    [1] The Lies of Locke Lamora
    [2] Red Seas Under Red Skies
    [3] The Republic of Thieves
    [4] The Thorn of Emberlain: scheduled for late 2021!
    If not.. It's pseudo-pirate sci-fi/fantasy adventure. I am sure you
    know how to dig up reviews if you are curious to learn more. People

    Not read any of those... haven't been getting any books like that
    recently... have enough on my plate as it is... We do subscribe to
    Analog (Science Fiction/Science Fact), and I've been able to assuage the addiction with that... ;)

    who have explored Brandon Sanderson and Robert Jordan have let me know that they appreciated the steer to Scott Lynch. It is only a trilogy sofar, unlike the +12 volume series of the other authors, but it's hard
    to be patient for #4!

    That's the way it is with good serieses... :)

    Another amazing story series: Kingkiller Chronicles, by Patrick
    Rothfuss.
    [1] Name of the Wind (Day 1)
    [2] Wise Man's Fear (Day 2)
    [3] <TBD>
    Each volume (and both are over 700pages) covers the events of one day! This is another series that one just can't seem to wait to continue.

    I've gotten almost to the point that I don't want to start a new series
    for fear that that will turn out to be the case... I hate having to
    wait... <G> When there's a serial in Analog, I'll often wait to start
    it until all the installments have arrived, only read everything else in
    each issue.... :)

    Books often have a lot more richness than TV shows or movies.... it's
    often surprising (and gratifying) when a show or movie actually does a
    creditable job of covering an entire book... :)

    I can't think of too many film/book combos that I've come across that
    were "true and complete" to the original book, and of course I wouldn't
    be able to remember what I saw.
    The first Harry Potter film followed the events in the first book VERY close and complete.

    Yes, I remember reading and seeing that one... and that was well done...

    One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is another book/film near match.

    Never read the book on that one, just saw the movie...

    But.. films being typically limited to about 100 minutes couldn't
    possibly be "complete" in every detail, and that is appreciated.

    Quite true....

    For a crazy "study" I watched all the film adaptations of The Great
    Gatsby a few years ago. Each film deviated from the original story in their own way and even injected a director's own ideas.

    Indeed crazy, but I'm sure that it was entertaining all the same... :)

    For me, bottom line: the book is often better - where my own
    imagination can generate the scenes and settings.

    Agreed. I remember, way back when I was in high school, my sister and I stopped in at the local movie house on the way home, and saw the epic
    movie Gone With the Wind... We were so taken by it that we then stopped
    at the library branch on the way home from the movie, and checked out
    the book. She read the book straight through, finishing at about
    bedtime, and handed it to me... I read through the night, and finished
    by the morning... That was another that was rather true to the book...
    but the book was indeed richer, since one couldn't possibly get it all
    in... even though the movie was longer than normal... :)

    ttyl neb

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