I will off line, pretty much, for the next nine days.
Christmas break is ending and _they_ return starting tomorrow.
I have been posted to a dorm and not have net access. I will be around Sunday. The following week I am training new people in parking and
working full time all week and with the hours I'll be working it will be
hit and miss.
I should be back regularly on the 21st.
With this group there should be no problems. :)
Joe
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Joe,

With this group there should be no problems. :)

PARTY TIME!! <jk> LOL

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to All on 01-11-19 06:58 <=-

I will off line, pretty much, for the next nine days.
Christmas break is ending and _they_ return starting tomorrow.
I have been posted to a dorm and not have net access. I will be
around Sunday. The following week I am training new people in parking
and working full time all week and with the hours I'll be working it
will be hit and miss.

Guess you'll be busy.... <G> If you see this during the hectic time,
accept my hopes for survival.... ;) Otherwise, consider this a welcome
back... <G>

I should be back regularly on the 21st.
With this group there should be no problems. :)

One would hope... :) The biggest problem probably will be keeping up
some sort of message flow... :)

ttyl neb

... Just bring me my chocolate, and s-l-o-w-l-y back away.

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Nancy wrote -

and working full time all week and with the hours I'll be working

it will be hit and miss.

Guess you'll be busy.... <G> If you see this during the hectic time,
accept my hopes for survival.... ;) Otherwise, consider this a welcome back... <G>

Thanks. I'm back to normal (for me) again. In the last two weeks my schedule was changed three times. Instead working last weekend I had it
off, worked all week, and have today off and working tomorrow. (The boss
hates paying overtime).
I love being back in parking, training new hires, which I referred to
as to clops of fresh clay to mold as I liked. :)
I told them all I was (Dr) Evil Officer 49 the new guys were going to
be "Mini-me's" Reaction of people on campus (who remembered me) was
mixed. It was was either cheers or jeers, no middle ground. :)
I told the chief (of police)I had taught them everything I know and he
said I could of done that in less than five minutes why was there all
week? :)
There was a lot of banter with the office and the cops and like the
old days.
Parking enforcement has been very lax the last couple of years and
hopefully that will change.

I should be back regularly on the 21st.
With this group there should be no problems. :)

One would hope... :) The biggest problem probably will be keeping up
some sort of message flow... :)

I stopped by one morning and it seemed rather quiet.
Joe


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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 01-19-19 07:13 <=-

and working full time all week and with the hours I'll be working
it will be hit and miss.

Guess you'll be busy.... <G> If you see this during the hectic time,
accept my hopes for survival.... ;) Otherwise, consider this a welcome back... <G>

Thanks. I'm back to normal (for me) again. In the last two weeks
my schedule was changed three times. Instead working last weekend I
had it off, worked all week, and have today off and working tomorrow. (The boss hates paying overtime).

Even for a good cause, eh....

I love being back in parking, training new hires, which I referred
to as to clops of fresh clay to mold as I liked. :)
I told them all I was (Dr) Evil Officer 49 the new guys were going
to be "Mini-me's" Reaction of people on campus (who remembered me) was mixed. It was was either cheers or jeers, no middle ground. :)

The ones that were enjoying getting away with things with you gone were
likely the ones jeering... oh, well... too bad for them... :)

I told the chief (of police)I had taught them everything I know and
he said I could of done that in less than five minutes why was there
all week? :)

Clearly because the new ones were denser than the chief expected... ;)

There was a lot of banter with the office and the cops and like the
old days.

As would be expected... :)

Parking enforcement has been very lax the last couple of years and hopefully that will change.

If the training you gave takes hold, that should help a lot... :)

I should be back regularly on the 21st.
With this group there should be no problems. :)

One would hope... :) The biggest problem probably will be keeping up
some sort of message flow... :)

I stopped by one morning and it seemed rather quiet.

Well, I've been kinda busy, and weather (and health issues) can make
Daryl less reliable.... and we three are the main players nowadays...
hard to keep the lurkers connected visibly.... ;)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

he said I could of done that in less than five minutes why was

there all week? :)

Clearly because the new ones were denser than the chief expected... ;)

LOL. Good one!
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Nancy,

Well, I've been kinda busy, and weather (and health issues) can make NB>Daryl less reliable.... and we three are the main players nowadays... NB>hard to keep the lurkers connected visibly.... ;)

At least we're not Curly, Larry, and Moe. Coitanly, I'll do "The Curly Shuffle" (look at the grouse!!) <G>.

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 01-21-19 05:45 <=-

Nancy wrote --

he said I could of done that in less than five minutes why was I
there all week? :)

Clearly because the new ones were denser than the chief expected... ;)

LOL. Good one!

And was that also true...? :)

ttyl neb

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 01-21-19 11:32 <=-

Well, I've been kinda busy, and weather (and health issues) can make
Daryl less reliable.... and we three are the main players nowadays...
hard to keep the lurkers connected visibly.... ;)

At least we're not Curly, Larry, and Moe. Coitanly, I'll do "The
Curly Shuffle" (look at the grouse!!) <G>.

Good thing.... we don't need any eyes poked out.... <G>

ttyl neb

... Save this message ! You may need it !

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Nancy wrote-

LOL. Good one!

And was that also true...? :)

I am not a teacher by training. I do have a manual I use, that I
wrote. (When I took over as supervisor I spent a weekend writing it so
things were in black and white, no more he said/she said ways of doing
things. I had two bosses who often contradicted each other in what, how,
and so forth to do things).
I spend a couple of hours going over that, giving the new guys a copy
to refer to and such.
Out in the field a lot is stream of conscientiousness as things come
to me. Mostly this is more detailed ways of gaining information,
citations that would stick etc, which was sort of "show and tell".
Instead of telling about something I show them.
I'm the type who can read something and still be fuzzy about it but if
I'm shown I get it quicker.
Joe

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Joe,

I am not a teacher by training. I do have a manual I use, that I
wrote. (When I took over as supervisor I spent a weekend writing it so JM>things were in black and white, no more he said/she said ways of doing JM>things. I had two bosses who often contradicted each other in what, how, JM>and so forth to do things).

When I was in silkscreen printing for 20 years, it was as if "the left
hand didn't know what the right hand was doing", with the owners 2 sons.
So, I literally went to the original owner (the father), and in tears,
and demanded "Who the hell am I supposed to believe??!!". I still have nightmares of former jobs from years ago. I retired on disability 15
years ago, and they keep finding stuff wrong with me.

I spend a couple of hours going over that, giving the new guys a copy
to refer to and such.

I'm sure you're a good teacher. :)

I'm the type who can read something and still be fuzzy about it but if
I'm shown I get it quicker.

I'm the same way on stuff for the BBS. Now, sometimes, I can figure it
out by reading (or just skimming) the documentation. But, other times, I
need a graphical image or more help. I wish these computer folks would
realize that not all of us are as computer savvy and literate as they
are.

Daryl

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Daryl wrote --

I had two bosses who often contradicted each other in what, how,
and so forth to do things).

When I was in silkscreen printing for 20 years, it was as if "the

left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing",

That is common on campus. I often added that not only did one hand not
know what the other was doing, it didn't realise the other was there.
Yesterday the long time official university "photo-grapher" as I call
him, was looking for some display to record.
It wasn't in the lobby of the building I was in so we took off to find someone who knew something (read secretary). (They usually know more
about what is going on than the bosses). She had no idea.
Rick said "the director of communication had said ..." and I added,
Sounds more like the director of miscommunication to me and we all had a
laugh.
When I was in parking we, as was said in Cool Hand Luke by the chain
gang boss, Strother Martin "What we've got here is... failure to
communicate", with the chief (of police). He knew something and just
assumed everyone else did. Caused a lot of problems. My ringtone for
him was that line. :)

I spend a couple of hours going over that, giving the new guys a

copy to refer to and such.

I'm sure you're a good teacher. :)

I was talking to them at the end of the first day when the chief passed
by asking what I was doing in his building. I said I was teaching them everything I knew. He asked what I was doing there the other seven hours
and 58 minutes. :)
We did get along great and lots of joking around.
One time their dispatcher and the parking boss had a dispute and she
was banned from riding in the golf cart. She said in that case I was
banned from being in dispatch.
One day I was talking to her about something and standing in the room
when the chief came around the corner, shotgun in hand, cocked it and
asked what I was doing in that room. I said "leaving". (The gun was
unloaded).
Another time I was put to work helping to transfer some files and the
chief asked what I was doing in there and Bev handed me a community
service vest I put on. :)

I'm the type who can read something and still be fuzzy about it

but if I'm shown I get it quicker.

I'm the same way on stuff for the BBS. Now, sometimes, I can figure

it out by reading (or just skimming) the documentation.

How-to videos on You Tube have been a big help to me.
There are videos on almost everything imaginable.
Joe
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Joe,

That is common on campus. I often added that not only did one hand not
know what the other was doing, it didn't realise the other was there.

Ridiculous.

Yesterday the long time official university "photo-grapher" as I call
him, was looking for some display to record.

Sounds like he was bored.

It wasn't in the lobby of the building I was in so we took off to find
someone who knew something (read secretary). (They usually know more JM>about what is going on than the bosses). She had no idea.

Was she blonde?? <G>

Rick said "the director of communication had said ..." and I added,
Sounds more like the director of miscommunication to me and we all had a JM>laugh.

Really.

When I was in parking we, as was said in Cool Hand Luke by the chain
gang boss, Strother Martin "What we've got here is... failure to JM>communicate", with the chief (of police). He knew something and just JM>assumed everyone else did. Caused a lot of problems. My ringtone for JM>him was that line. :)

A friend of mine had the ringtone of "I'm about to whup somebody's @$$"...whenever his boss called...and "Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!", whenever his wife called. <G>

I was talking to them at the end of the first day when the chief passed
by asking what I was doing in his building. I said I was teaching them JM>everything I knew. He asked what I was doing there the other seven hours JM>and 58 minutes. :)

LOL.

We did get along great and lots of joking around.

I was like that working at the Burger King across from the University
Of Arkansas At Little Rock 40 years ago. The current location is where a Shoney's used to be (I don't think there are any of them in Arkansas
anymore). Anyway, many nights, I was the only white employee on the
crew...and we had a blast!! We didn't care of the color of our skin...we
were there to do a job. One of the cashiers called out an order, saying "Chicken. Make It All White Meat!!"...he busted out laughing, as did the
rest of us. BTW, I *LOVE* the ORIGINAL chicken from Burger King...and
their nuggets have a real good flavor as well.

One of the black girls referred to me as "the little virgin boy";
because unlike so many others back then (even more so now), I was not
the promiscuous type. The only woman I had relations with was my late
wife. The funny parts though, were:

1) A young lady I square danced with kidded me that "if you don't use
it, it'll fall off".

That reminds me of the late Paul Lynde's comment on Hollywood Squares,
where Peter Marshall asked "It is the most abused and neglected part of
your body. What is it??". Paul quipped "Mine may be abused, but it's
certainly not neglected"!! <G> How they got stuff past the censors back
then, I'll never know!!

2) One guy I worked with was living with a girl (shacked up), and had
already had a kid by her. I made it no secret that "I was a virgin".

Well, after my wife and I got back from the honeymoon, and I went back
to work, he asked me if I was "still a virgin". I looked at him dead in
the eye, and said "I'm married. What do you think??!!". When I told my
boss, I thought he was going to spit his teeth out of his mouth!! <G>

One time their dispatcher and the parking boss had a dispute and she
was banned from riding in the golf cart. She said in that case I was JM>banned from being in dispatch.

Sounds like tit for tat.

One day I was talking to her about something and standing in the room
when the chief came around the corner, shotgun in hand, cocked it and JM>asked what I was doing in that room. I said "leaving". (The gun was JM>unloaded).

Wow.

Another time I was put to work helping to transfer some files and the
chief asked what I was doing in there and Bev handed me a community JM>service vest I put on. :)

LOL.

How-to videos on You Tube have been a big help to me.
There are videos on almost everything imaginable.

Wonder if there's one on how to burn water?? <G>

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 01-26-19 05:50 <=-

LOL. Good one!

And was that also true...? :)

You didn't answer whether the new trainees were denser than the
average.... ;)

I am not a teacher by training. I do have a manual I use, that I
wrote. (When I took over as supervisor I spent a weekend writing it
so things were in black and white, no more he said/she said ways of
doing things. I had two bosses who often contradicted each other in
what, how, and so forth to do things).

So you codified what you felt was the best practice in the field, from
the contradictory orders from the bosses... ;) Did you run it by them originally, or just figure you had it well enough...?

I spend a couple of hours going over that, giving the new guys a
copy to refer to and such.

Good start... :)

Out in the field a lot is stream of conscientiousness as things
come to me. Mostly this is more detailed ways of gaining information, citations that would stick etc, which was sort of "show and tell". Instead of telling about something I show them.
I'm the type who can read something and still be fuzzy about it but
if I'm shown I get it quicker.

You may not have been trained as a teacher, but you are using the
techniques of teaching quite well.... By providing both the manual and
the showing, you connect with your trainees however/whatever their best learning occurs...

And obviously the chief's implying that you had relatively little
knowledge to impart has no basis in reality.... <G>

ttyl neb

... Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever.

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Daryl wrote --

Yesterday the long time official university "photo-grapher" as I

call him, was looking for some display to record.

Sounds like he was bored.

I imagine his job can be boring. He has to record everything that goes
on around campus.
A sports game? Photograph it.
President giving a speech. Photograph it. (We had a president,
recently deceased, died in office, who had his picture taken all the
time. Rick said it was boring since he wore the same tie all the time
{the old school tie as it were}, and only his jacket changed. I
suggested he get shots of the various jackets, backgrounds, etc and just
reuse those).
Some exhibit? Photograph it.
A rally or protest? Photograph it.
On and on and on.

someone who knew something (read secretary). (They usually know

more about what is going on than the bosses). She had no idea.

Was she blonde?? <G>

Nope, black.

When I was in parking we, as was said in Cool Hand Luke by the

chain gang boss, Strother Martin "What we've got here is... failure to communicate", with the chief (of police). He knew something and just
assumed everyone else did. Caused a lot of problems. My ringtone for
him was that line. :)

A friend of mine had the ringtone of "I'm about to whup somebody's @$$"...whenever his boss called

My captain's ringtone is blah-blah-blah-blah-blah...
He will want something but spend several minutes dancing around the
subject before he asks it.

Anyway, many nights, I was the only white employee on the crew...and we

had a blast!! We didn't care of the color of our skin...we were there to
do a job.

That's the way I am.
I used to joke that I didn't care who was working in parking, they
could be black/white, gay/straight, male/female, even a member of ISIS,
so long as they did the job.
(I was sort of Ninja ticket writer. I would appear out of nowhere,
write the ticket and be long gone within seconds).

That reminds me of the late Paul Lynde's comment on Hollywood

Squares, where Peter Marshall

He and his sister Joanne Dru grew up here.
They were born in NC (I think) and came here at an early age, went to grade/high school, Marshall, etc. Maybe were he took his stage name.
His original name was Pierre LaCock. I think the family was Swedish. :)
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Nancy wrote --

You didn't answer whether the new trainees were denser than the
average.... ;)

Hard to say.
The first week so much is thrown at them (esp. in crash courses like
lately) they are more dazed and confused than anything else. It takes a
good two weeks for everything to be absorbed and then the Aha Moments set
in.
In the past I was able to discuss things with them but now its a week
of training and out on their own. Sink or swim.
I have had people people who seem at first they will work out and don't
and others I didn't think would last a week who turned out very well.
A day in class, then out in the field. Its when they are on their own
they prove their meddle. When no one is hovering around them, coaching, directing, etc.

So you codified what you felt was the best practice in the field, from
the contradictory orders from the bosses... ;) Did you run it by them originally, or just figure you had it well enough...?

I had the head of parking look it over who made one or two minor
changes and ok'ed it.
I was reminded of a barber college here once.
A student would spend time cutting hair and when they thought it was
perfect call over an instructor. Each time that guy would do a minor
snip here and a snip there (not enough to make any difference) and ok it.

And obviously the chief's implying that you had relatively little
knowledge to impart has no basis in reality.... <G>

It was joking around. I got along great with all the guys.
Outside the station it was busy, inside, away from the public, it was
joking and clowning around. *
One time I was on campus for something, in uniform, and the chief was
sitting at MY desk, in MY chair. He asked what I was doing there again
and said "I know you guys can't get along with me" and he muttered
"That's what you think". :)
(Even through the old table and chairs were replaced, it was still my
spot at the head of the table).
(*One snowy morning I had parked my bike in the rack at a building
across the alley from the station. Several cops were standing around
outside. As I got nearer they had a look in their eye and I knew
something was up. Suddenly snowballs came flying at me. I ducked beside
a cruiser and made as many as I could and lobbed them over the car. The
day shift commander was coming out a side door and I ran toward it,
tossing a ball as I went and when I got close he shut the door on me. I
was pelted with about 10 balls at once. We were all laughing and
carrying on. I yelled I surrender, don't shoot and assumed the position
with my face to the wall, my hands against it and my legs apart. :)
The day shift commander used to pull a lot of pranks on me and my bike,
such as hiding it somewhere when after the one I mentioned was stolen and
I put the new one in the station. The best was when the bike was put on
the roof.
I would be wandering around looking for it when missing and ask if
anyone had seen it. "Nope" they all replied straight faced and kept on
going.)
Joe

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Joe,

He will want something but spend several minutes dancing around the
subject before he asks it.

Couldn't we just "cut to the chase", please?? :P

(I was sort of Ninja ticket writer. I would appear out of nowhere,
write the ticket and be long gone within seconds).

Did you have a costume and a superhero cape?? <G>

They were born in NC (I think) and came here at an early age, went to
grade/high school, Marshall, etc. Maybe were he took his stage name.
His original name was Pierre LaCock. I think the family was Swedish. :)

I even heard him as a "DJ" with big band and swing music when one of
the radio stations in town had that format. Unfortunately, most folks
nowadays don't care about the classics anymore. Upon hearing what some
call "music" nowadays (I use the term loosely), my late wife lamented
"If that's music, we're doomed".

Daryl

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Daryl wrote --

(I was sort of Ninja ticket writer. I would appear out of nowhere,
write the ticket and be long gone within seconds).

Did you have a costume and a superhero cape?? <G>

I was sneakier than that, but I was dressed all in black. :)
Joe
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Joe,

(I was sort of Ninja ticket writer. I would appear out of nowhere, JM>> JM>write the ticket and be long gone within seconds).

Did you have a costume and a superhero cape?? <G>

I was sneakier than that, but I was dressed all in black. :)

Never mind The Mark Of Zero (Zorro was on vacation <G>).

It reminds me of the joke at the wedding, when the little girl asks
why the bride was dressed in white.

The mother replied to her inquisitive daughter that "White is a symbol
of happiness and purity...and this is the happiest day of her life!!".

To which, the daughter asked "Then, why is the groom wearing black??".


Daryl

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Daryl wrote --

I was sneakier than that, but I was dressed all in black. :)

Never mind The Mark Of Zero (Zorro was on vacation <G>).

I used to call us (myself and others) MIB (men in black, like in the
movie).
Joe
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Joe,

I was sneakier than that, but I was dressed all in black. :)

Never mind The Mark Of Zero (Zorro was on vacation <G>).

I used to call us (myself and others) MIB (men in black, like in the
movie).

That was also what Johnny Cash was..."the man in black". He, like Glen Campbell, grew up in Arkansas.

BTW, I got your email, and have replied to it.

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 02-01-19 07:06 <=-

You didn't answer whether the new trainees were denser than the
average.... ;)

Hard to say.
The first week so much is thrown at them (esp. in crash courses like lately) they are more dazed and confused than anything else. It takes
a good two weeks for everything to be absorbed and then the Aha Moments set in.
In the past I was able to discuss things with them but now its a
week of training and out on their own. Sink or swim.

And you aren't likely around for that second week to see how they
actually work out....

I have had people people who seem at first they will work out and
don't and others I didn't think would last a week who turned out very well. A day in class, then out in the field. Its when they are on
their own they prove their meddle. When no one is hovering around
them, coaching, directing, etc.

Have you heard yet how this bunch of trainees is doing on their own...?

So you codified what you felt was the best practice in the field, from
the contradictory orders from the bosses... ;) Did you run it by them originally, or just figure you had it well enough...?

I had the head of parking look it over who made one or two minor
changes and ok'ed it.
I was reminded of a barber college here once.
A student would spend time cutting hair and when they thought it was perfect call over an instructor. Each time that guy would do a minor
snip here and a snip there (not enough to make any difference) and ok
it.

Just enough to keep the student on his/her toes.... but otherwise put
the stamp of approval on it... :)

And obviously the chief's implying that you had relatively little
knowledge to impart has no basis in reality.... <G>

It was joking around. I got along great with all the guys.
Outside the station it was busy, inside, away from the public, it
was joking and clowning around. *

Ah, ok.... :)

One time I was on campus for something, in uniform, and the chief
was sitting at MY desk, in MY chair. He asked what I was doing there again and I said "I know you guys can't get along with me" and he
muttered "That's what you think". :)
(Even through the old table and chairs were replaced, it was still
my spot at the head of the table).

And even though you'd retired...? ;)

(*One snowy morning I had parked my bike in the rack at a building
across the alley from the station. Several cops were standing around outside. As I got nearer they had a look in their eye and I knew something was up. Suddenly snowballs came flying at me. I ducked
beside a cruiser and made as many as I could and lobbed them over the
car. The day shift commander was coming out a side door and I ran
toward it, tossing a ball as I went and when I got close he shut the
door on me. I was pelted with about 10 balls at once. We were all laughing and carrying on. I yelled I surrender, don't shoot and
assumed the position with my face to the wall, my hands against it and
my legs apart. :) The day shift commander used to pull a lot of
pranks on me and my bike, such as hiding it somewhere when after the
one I mentioned was stolen and I put the new one in the station. The
best was when the bike was put on the roof.
I would be wandering around looking for it when missing and ask if
anyone had seen it. "Nope" they all replied straight faced and kept
on going.)

Yup.... I remember those stories.... ;) You might as well have fun together.... otherwise it could be a boring job.... <G>

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

And you aren't likely around for that second week to see how they
actually work out....

I have had to fill in at Bio Tech a few week days when the woman who
normally works there has called off.
One day I was walking around the building, "checking to make sure all
the doors and windows are still there" and ran into one of the newbies
who said they had been busy.
Then we had a week of bad weather and often they were sent home early
and one thing and another which skews their progress.
I told them there would be times like that and there would be busy days
and slow days and used a sort of chart with ups and downs, which is
normal. I became concerned it was a steady decline over several days.

It was joking around. I got along great with all the guys.
Outside the station it was busy, inside, away from the public, it
was joking and clowning around. *

Ah, ok.... :)

There is a lot of stress in their job and one way to relieve that is
joking and clowning around.
It was the same in parking. We dealt with all sorts of people all day,
some you just want to wring the violators neck or slap them upside the
head for being so stupid. But in the field it was professional, but away
from the public it was joking and clowning around as well.

(Even through the old table and chairs were replaced, it was still
my spot at the head of the table).

And even though you'd retired...? ;)

Hey, I worked hard for that spot! :)
(Well, I was always at work)
One time the head of parking was looking over my time sheet to sign off
on it asked "Did you work all those hours?" I replied, "Well, I was
here" and she said "Close enough". :)

best was when the bike was put on the roof.

Yup.... I remember those stories.... ;) You might as well have fun together.... otherwise it could be a boring job.... <G>

When I was training the new guys one day I noticed a couple of cops
behind us every now and then. Back at the office they came in a few
seconds after we did and I said "I told you the cops had a tail on us". :)
They just shook their heads and walked on to their side of the building.
Joe
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 02-06-19 07:47 <=-

And you aren't likely around for that second week to see how they
actually work out....

I have had to fill in at Bio Tech a few week days when the woman who normally works there has called off.
One day I was walking around the building, "checking to make sure
all the doors and windows are still there" and ran into one of the
newbies who said they had been busy.

That's promising... :)

Then we had a week of bad weather and often they were sent home
early and one thing and another which skews their progress.
I told them there would be times like that and there would be busy
days and slow days and used a sort of chart with ups and downs, which
is normal. I became concerned it was a steady decline over several
days.

A decline in work, or a decline in workers...? It makes sense that some
days would be busier than others.... :)

It was joking around. I got along great with all the guys.
Outside the station it was busy, inside, away from the public, it
was joking and clowning around. *

Ah, ok.... :)

There is a lot of stress in their job and one way to relieve that is joking and clowning around.
It was the same in parking. We dealt with all sorts of people all
day, some you just want to wring the violators neck or slap them upside the head for being so stupid. But in the field it was professional,
but away from the public it was joking and clowning around as well.

Makes sense... one would need some safe way of preventing those tensions
from building up... :)

(Even through the old table and chairs were replaced, it was still
my spot at the head of the table).

And even though you'd retired...? ;)

Hey, I worked hard for that spot! :)
(Well, I was always at work)
One time the head of parking was looking over my time sheet to sign
off on it asked "Did you work all those hours?" I replied, "Well, I
was here" and she said "Close enough". :)

Some jobs, presence is a large part of the job.... <G>

best was when the bike was put on the roof.

Yup.... I remember those stories.... ;) You might as well have fun together.... otherwise it could be a boring job.... <G>

When I was training the new guys one day I noticed a couple of cops
behind us every now and then. Back at the office they came in a few seconds after we did and I said "I told you the cops had a tail on
us". :) They just shook their heads and walked on to their side of
the building.

The cops were onto you already... ;)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

I told them there would be times like that and there would be busy
days and slow days and used a sort of chart with ups and downs,

which is normal. I became concerned it was a steady decline over several
days.

A decline in work, or a decline in workers...? It makes sense that

some days would be busier than others.... :)

Decline in work.
When I started in parking in January, '02, we had four people. Three
from 8-4 and one from 1100 to 1900. That was one too many so it was
dropped to three, which was great, two day and one afternoon shift. Kept everyone busy.
Then it dropped to only two and that's not enough to adequately cover
the campus. One worked 8-4 and one 11-7, so two people were in the field
from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. Then the pay garage opened and hours changed from
8-4 to 7-3 since the morning person had to sweep the five story garage
each morning for over night parkers. (Over night parking now allowed,
the garage was literally closed, gates down, etc). Now that is no longer
done but the guy still starts at 7 but can't ticket until 8, so an hour
to sit and do nothing.

asked "Did you work all those hours?" I replied, "Well, I was

here" and she said "Close enough". :)

Some jobs, presence is a large part of the job.... <G>

There were many times people wanted to do something they shouldn't and attempt it until they saw me (or one of the other guys) and turned around
and left. :)

seconds after we did and I said "I told you the cops had a tail on
us". :) They just shook their heads and walked on to their side of
the building.

The cops were onto you already... ;)

Yep. :)
Joe
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 02-09-19 05:58 <=-

I told them there would be times like that and there would be busy
days and slow days and used a sort of chart with ups and downs,
which is normal. I became concerned it was a steady decline over several days.

A decline in work, or a decline in workers...? It makes sense that
some days would be busier than others.... :)

Decline in work.
When I started in parking in January, '02, we had four people.
Three from 8-4 and one from 1100 to 1900. That was one too many so it
was dropped to three, which was great, two day and one afternoon shift. Kept everyone busy.
Then it dropped to only two and that's not enough to adequately
cover the campus. One worked 8-4 and one 11-7, so two people were in
the field from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m.

So partly a decline in work, and partly a decline in how many hours is
supposed to cover adequately....? I can see where the overlapping 2
morning, one afternoon would work out nicely usually... And then special
events would mandate an extra shift, I'd guess...?

Then the pay garage opened and hours
changed from 8-4 to 7-3 since the morning person had to sweep the five story garage each morning for over night parkers. (Over night parking
not allowed, the garage was literally closed, gates down, etc). Now
that is no longer done but the guy still starts at 7 but can't ticket until 8, so an hour to sit and do nothing.

Did they decide to allow overnight parking in the garage, then...?

asked "Did you work all those hours?" I replied, "Well, I was
here" and she said "Close enough". :)

Some jobs, presence is a large part of the job.... <G>

There were many times people wanted to do something they shouldn't
and attempt it until they saw me (or one of the other guys) and turned around and left. :)

Deterrence is a useful part of the job... Better to stop something from happening altogether than to have to actively have to step in... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

And then special events would mandate an extra shift, I'd guess...?

Depends on the event, time of day, etc.
Usually we were just pulled from ticketing to traffic control, which
was part of the job as well.
I enjoyed traffic control as a rule, if the weather were nice. :)
There would be various job fairs and such a couple of times a year
with vendors hiring for summer jobs or soon to be grads. These people
always had goodies to give away and in thanks for helping them I would
get pens, bite size candies, etc. For a couple of years various
companies were giving away thumb drives and I got a pile of them I still
use on a regular basis.
I would get a pen from this or that vendor then take the collection to
the office where the queen bee got first pick and on down the ladder and whatever was left over was in a common pile. (If there was one that
really caught my eye somehow it ended up in my pocket instead.)
The vendors wanted to get rid of their goodies so they didn't have to
take it back to their business.
One year I got like six pounds of Starbucks coffee. Their coffee on
campus was as bitter as all get out, but when I made it at home it was
fine.

garage each morning for over night parkers. (Over night parking

not allowed, the garage was literally closed, gates down, etc).

Did they decide to allow overnight parking in the garage, then...?

We had people who claimed they lost their time ticket (or never got
one, which was impossible since one had to get a ticket before the gate
would go up and someone was in the booth right beside them in case of problems). Now if they claim they lost their ticket they charged a
minimum of $10 to get out. They are charged the regular rate (only 50
cents an hour) for the time they were in there.
Joe

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 02-14-19 06:10 <=-

And then special events would mandate an extra shift, I'd guess...?

Depends on the event, time of day, etc.
Usually we were just pulled from ticketing to traffic control, which
was part of the job as well.
I enjoyed traffic control as a rule, if the weather were nice. :)

Well, of course... ;) Nasty weather's no fun....

There would be various job fairs and such a couple of times a year
with vendors hiring for summer jobs or soon to be grads. These people always had goodies to give away and in thanks for helping them I would
get pens, bite size candies, etc. For a couple of years various
companies were giving away thumb drives and I got a pile of them I
still use on a regular basis.

Were they emblazoned with the company name....? ;)

I would get a pen from this or that vendor then take the collection
to the office where the queen bee got first pick and on down the ladder and whatever was left over was in a common pile. (If there was one
that really caught my eye somehow it ended up in my pocket instead.)

After all, they /were/ given to you.... :)

The vendors wanted to get rid of their goodies so they didn't have
to take it back to their business.

Makes perfect sense... :)

One year I got like six pounds of Starbucks coffee. Their coffee on campus was as bitter as all get out, but when I made it at home it was fine.

I suppose that when it was made on campus, it wasn't being made quite as
it should have been done.... or, perhaps, as one might do, to make
things less bitter....

garage each morning for over night parkers. (Over night parking
not allowed, the garage was literally closed, gates down, etc).

Did they decide to allow overnight parking in the garage, then...?

We had people who claimed they lost their time ticket (or never got
one, which was impossible since one had to get a ticket before the
gate would go up and someone was in the booth right beside them in case
of problems). Now if they claim they lost their ticket they charged a minimum of $10 to get out. They are charged the regular rate (only 50 cents an hour) for the time they were in there.

So that would be $12 for 24 hours.... ;) Of course, probably they'd not
been there that long.... If they hear that that charge for lost ticket
is a minimum of $10, does the ticket miraculously appear....? ;)

ttyl neb

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