• Travel

    From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Fri Mar 29 06:30:14 2019
    Daryl wrote --

    didn't fly there instead of taking Amtrak?? I replied "I want to treat
    a vacation like a Thanksgiving Day meal...savor every bite from the
    dinner roll to the pumpkin pie.

    Good analogy. --swipe--

    I don't want to "wolf it down", like I did working

    I have a very bad habit of wolfing down my food as well. At home I
    think nothing of it, but when I'm with others I have to keep reminding
    myself "slow down".
    To me food is simply fuel for the body. The reason I'm as happy with a
    bowl of corn flakes as with a big juicy steak.

    DS >> of the parking lot (I think I've told that story before). :P

    I don't think so.

    LOL.
    I really liked the line about the seeing eye dog tied to the front
    bumper!

    I had been severely nearsighted since elementary school...wearing
    glasses since 4th grade. The teacher said that "I couldn't tell time",
    and my parents said "He can tell time...he can't see the clock!!".

    I had poor eye sight since a kid as well. It was some what gradual.
    In grade school tests were written on the board and even in the front
    row I couldn't read the board and had to walk up to it.
    My father couldn't believe a child of his could be "defective" and I
    was unable to see. It was all in my mind, etc. (Otherwise he was the
    best father anyone could have).
    I haunted junk shops trying on glasses until I found a pair I could
    see out it then having to hide them at home, otherwise they would be
    taken away since he said it would damage my eyes after he found me
    wearing the first pair.
    When I was 13 my got my first pair of real glasses and could see the
    world in focus all the time.
    All my life I wore coke bottle lenses and hated them. In my mid 30s
    the price of contacts had come down, got them and never looked back. (I
    do wear glasses once a week while my eyes are "resting" and the contacts
    being cleaned.

    it was determined I needed cataract surgery.

    Thankfully I've never had that.

    The no stitch cataract surgery was invented by Dr. Mike McFarland,
    namesake of the eye center. When it came out, they thought he was
    nuts...now, it's the industry standard.

    Isn't it strange in medicine (and science) something new comes along
    and it pooh-poohed by others then eventually becomes the norm?

    My visual acuity went from 20/2000, with THICK
    glasses, and severe nearsightedness...to 20/20 with a little bit of astigmatism,

    Mine were never that bad but do have a bit of stigmatization in one eye.
    Once in a while I need readers (esp. if small print) but generally don't.
    Then there are times I do and the next time I don't. Or to put it
    another way, sometimes I don't need them and sometimes I do. :)

    To this day, I have people ask if I need help getting out of parking
    lots, and parking decks...I'll never live it down!! <BG>

    Don't ya love how some people never let you live something down? :)

    But, if you can't laugh at yourself, you have a lot of problems.

    Ain't it the truth!
    Oh, you mentioned being lost in a parking lot. I never consider myself
    lost, I'm just on an unexpected side trip. :)
    Joe
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Fri Mar 29 15:56:00 2019
    Joe,

    didn't fly there instead of taking Amtrak?? I replied "I want to treat JM>a vacation like a Thanksgiving Day meal...savor every bite from the JM>dinner roll to the pumpkin pie.

    Good analogy. --swipe--

    I would call you a thief, but since you're the moderator, rank has its privileges. <G>

    I have a very bad habit of wolfing down my food as well. At home I
    think nothing of it, but when I'm with others I have to keep reminding JM>myself "slow down".

    That's why the idea of those marathon hot dog eating deals turn me
    off. Why gorge yourself, then barf it all back up. That's as bad as the
    late Red Skelton, in a skit, saying "I had oysters on the half shell
    twice in one meal. Once going down...", then he paused, grimaced, and
    you could hear folks going "Ewwwww!!". :P

    To me food is simply fuel for the body. The reason I'm as happy with a
    bowl of corn flakes as with a big juicy steak.

    I remember when my late wife woke up after a heart surgery, they had a
    bowl of chicken broth in front of her. She growled "What is this
    garbage?? I want a steak!!". <G>

    I really liked the line about the seeing eye dog tied to the front
    bumper!

    When their eyes glow, as in a photo, they have their bright lights on.


    When I was 13 my got my first pair of real glasses and could see the
    world in focus all the time.

    I had been wearing glasses since I was 9, but now just wear reading
    glasses. Yet, they are so difficult to keep clean.

    All my life I wore coke bottle lenses and hated them. In my mid 30s
    the price of contacts had come down, got them and never looked back. (I JM>do wear glasses once a week while my eyes are "resting" and the contacts JM>being cleaned.

    Reminds me of the joke where the woman gets pulled over by a
    blonde female cop. She asks her where her glasses are, as her license
    notes "Corrective Lenses". When the woman replied "I've got contacts",
    the cop exploded "I don't care who you know!! You're supposed to be
    wearing glasses!!". <G>

    Thankfully I've never had that.

    One woman was lamenting that the man she thought she was going to
    marry dealt with Cadillacs -- when he actually said "Cataracts". :P

    Isn't it strange in medicine (and science) something new comes along
    and it pooh-poohed by others then eventually becomes the norm?

    Yep.

    Mine were never that bad but do have a bit of stigmatization in one eye.
    Once in a while I need readers (esp. if small print) but generally don't.
    Then there are times I do and the next time I don't. Or to put it
    another way, sometimes I don't need them and sometimes I do. :)

    I like what the late Red Skelton noted on reading glasses. "I don't
    need these, but I've reached the age where curiosity is greater than
    vanity". <G>

    Don't ya love how some people never let you live something down? :)

    With friends like these, you don't need any enemies.

    But, if you can't laugh at yourself, you have a lot of problems.

    Ain't it the truth!

    But, some folks just won't admit it to such.

    Oh, you mentioned being lost in a parking lot. I never consider myself
    lost, I'm just on an unexpected side trip. :)

    There you go. I guess next time, I'll call AAA for travel guidance.


    Daryl
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Sat Mar 30 06:25:20 2019
    Daryl wrote --

    Good analogy. --swipe--

    I would call you a thief, but since you're the moderator, rank has
    its privileges. <G>

    Well then, lets just say borrowed? :)

    bowl of chicken broth in front of her. She growled "What is this
    garbage?? I want a steak!!". <G>

    While food is just fuel to me, I have some foods I like more than
    others. While I would be happy with a bowl of cereal I might rather have
    a steak. :)

    I really liked the line about the seeing eye dog tied to the
    front bumper!

    When their eyes glow, as in a photo, they have their bright lights
    on. <G>

    LOL

    notes "Corrective Lenses". When the woman replied "I've got contacts",
    the cop exploded "I don't care who you know!! You're supposed to be
    wearing glasses!!". <G>

    :)
    When I took an eye test for my license renewal characters were a tad
    fuzzy looking in that box. I told the woman I had contacts and a bit
    dirty that day. She said it made no difference she was marking down I
    was to wear glasses when driving. Yeah, right, sure.

    One woman was lamenting that the man she thought she was going to
    marry dealt with Cadillacs -- when he actually said "Cataracts". :P

    Like the Asian gentleman whose doctor said he had cataracts and he
    replied, Oh no, I have Rincoln.
    Joe
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Mar 30 10:32:00 2019
    Joe,

    Good analogy. --swipe--

    I would call you a thief, but since you're the moderator, rank has JM>its privileges. <G>

    Well then, lets just say borrowed? :)

    There's that graft and corruption again. <g,d,r>

    When their eyes glow, as in a photo, they have their bright lights JM>on. <G>

    LOL

    And, it always happens with a flash photo. I remember when those first
    came out, then the Polaroid Sun 600 cameras. Everything has gone digital now...yet, the blondes still wonder where you put the film. <G>

    When I took an eye test for my license renewal characters were a tad
    fuzzy looking in that box. I told the woman I had contacts and a bit JM>dirty that day. She said it made no difference she was marking down I JM>was to wear glasses when driving. Yeah, right, sure.

    Sort of like the ham radio operator who's in for an eye exam. The
    doctor asks him to read the eye chart letters...he's doing it, but he's replying in the Morse Code Equivalent for each one!! The doctor is about
    to come unglued. :P

    Like the Asian gentleman whose doctor said he had cataracts and he
    replied, Oh no, I have Rincoln.

    Or like the joke about this bank, where the upper management comes to
    visit this branch, and is told this one employee can sort money faster
    than the electronic money sorters. They asked for the employee to
    demonstrate, and sure enough, he did!!

    They asked where he learned how to do that, and he replied "Yale".
    Impressed that an Ivy League School graduate was working for them, they
    asked for his name.

    It was "Yackson". <BG>

    Daryl

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Tue Apr 2 05:07:06 2019
    Nancy wrote --

    Sounds lovely, actually.... there have been lots of places I've passed
    by over the years because of the pressures of time... Dunno as I'll ever
    be that way again

    My thoughts exactly.
    Plus there have been times in the past I wanted a vacation but either
    had the time or the money but not both at the same time. Jumping at the
    chance now.

    Even your times for meeting up with echo friends can be flexible...
    just need to be able to contact to adjust the times... ;)

    I plan on contacting people en-route with an e-mail such as "Plan on
    arriving your area on X (day) around x o'clock" and exchanging phone
    numbers and a place to meet. Usually when about a day or two away when I
    am more sure of the day and time.
    Joe
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Apr 2 10:09:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Daryl Stout on 03-29-19 06:30 <=-

    I have a very bad habit of wolfing down my food as well. At home I
    think nothing of it, but when I'm with others I have to keep reminding myself "slow down".

    For a while, I was having to keep up with husband and son, both fast
    eaters (never quite managing to)... then I was taking some elderly women
    out for lunches, to encourage them to eat.... I had to slow way down so
    that they'd stay comfortable and eat enough to say so... I'd just as
    soon not be wolfing down my food, actually... ;) It's much pleasanter
    to eat with appreciation... ;)

    To me food is simply fuel for the body. The reason I'm as happy
    with a bowl of corn flakes as with a big juicy steak.

    One can eat a bowl of cornflakes with appreciation as much as one can a
    big juicy steak... :) It may be primarily for fuel for the body, but
    that doesn't mean one can't also take the time to savor it... :)

    When I was 13 my got my first pair of real glasses and could see
    the world in focus all the time.
    All my life I wore coke bottle lenses and hated them. In my mid
    30s the price of contacts had come down, got them and never looked
    back. (I do wear glasses once a week while my eyes are "resting" and
    the contacts being cleaned.

    My baby brother had similar issues with seeing... he got his first pair
    of glasses... and could finally see the stars in the night sky... and discovered that those big blurs of green were actually highway road
    signs with words on them.... <G>

    Oh, you mentioned being lost in a parking lot. I never consider
    myself lost, I'm just on an unexpected side trip. :)

    I don't get lost either... I just explore.... Sometimes intentionally, sometimes less so... <G> Afterwards, I'll check it out on the map to
    see what might have led me astray, and/or to solidify the better
    route that I just found... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... I was never lost, but once was bewildered for 3 days - D. Boone

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Wed Apr 3 05:16:58 2019
    Nancy wrote --

    For a while, I was having to keep up with husband and son, both fast
    eaters

    I'm reminded of the old joke where one guy says to another that eating
    slowly one eats less. The other guy replies, Yeah, it was like that in
    my family as well.

    My baby brother had similar issues with seeing... he got his first pair
    of glasses... and could finally see the stars in the night sky

    I remember wearing glasses for the first time and remembering there
    were stars in the sky, and coloured blobs were signs, etc.

    I don't get lost either... I just explore.... Sometimes intentionally, sometimes less so...

    I recall in '84 I had visited a friend in Erie, saw the Falls and on
    the way to Syracuse.
    I made a wrong turn in Buffalo at the big traffic circle and was
    completely lost. I don't remember how many gas stations I stopped to ask
    the way back to Rt 20. Everyone, to a man said, "I don't know" or "Never
    heard of it". After a while I was beginning to think I was in the
    Twilight Zone and would spend the rest of my life driving around
    aimlessly looking for that phantom highway. :)
    Needless to say I did eventually find it.
    Joe
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Wed Apr 3 05:34:08 2019
    Nancy asked --

    You do have my email...? I think I have yours in my address book...

    I have the one for bluefrog, and also Jim's. (As well as Daryl and Ed).
    Mine is joemackey108 at comcast.net
    (Wonder if we still need to use at instead of @ to keep unwanted people
    from getting it?)
    Joe

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Wed Apr 3 12:55:00 2019
    Nancy,

    soon not be wolfing down my food, actually... ;) It's much pleasanter
    to eat with appreciation... ;)

    I went to the local Pizza Hut buffet today...3 guys at a nearby table
    were seeing who could let out the raunchiest belch from their drinks. I
    just kept quiet, as I used to do that myself.

    One can eat a bowl of cornflakes with appreciation as much as one can a NB>big juicy steak... :) It may be primarily for fuel for the body, but NB>that doesn't mean one can't also take the time to savor it... :)

    That's how I want to do a Thanksgiving Day meal...from the dinner
    roll, all the way to the pumpkin pie.

    My baby brother had similar issues with seeing... he got his first pair NB>of glasses... and could finally see the stars in the night sky... and NB>discovered that those big blurs of green were actually highway road
    signs with words on them.... <G>

    One of them literally fell off of its signage perch onto Interstate
    30, damaging a vehicle, and causing wrecks and a traffic jam.

    I don't get lost either... I just explore.... Sometimes intentionally, NB>sometimes less so... <G> Afterwards, I'll check it out on the map to
    see what might have led me astray, and/or to solidify the better
    route that I just found... ;)

    As long as I don't get lost heading to the kitchen, bedroom, and
    especially the bathroom, I'll be OK. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Apr 3 12:56:00 2019
    Joe,

    (Wonder if we still need to use at instead of @ to keep unwanted people
    from getting it?)

    I have a simple HTML script I found that prevents the spider bots from getting it. Of course, I can set up filters in GMail to block unwanted messages.

    No worries...you're on the ALLOWED list. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Apr 4 20:16:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-02-19 05:07 <=-

    Sounds lovely, actually.... there have been lots of places I've passed
    by over the years because of the pressures of time... Dunno as I'll
    ever be that way again

    My thoughts exactly.
    Plus there have been times in the past I wanted a vacation but
    either had the time or the money but not both at the same time.
    Jumping at the chance now.

    I'm glad you are finally just doing it... ;) Now that you do have both
    the time and the money.... :)

    Even your times for meeting up with echo friends can be flexible...
    just need to be able to contact to adjust the times... ;)

    I plan on contacting people en-route with an e-mail such as "Plan on arriving your area on X (day) around x o'clock" and exchanging phone numbers and a place to meet. Usually when about a day or two away
    when I am more sure of the day and time.

    Makes sense... :) As long as you also know when the gaps in their
    availability is likely to be.... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... As easy as 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Apr 8 12:08:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-03-19 05:16 <=-

    For a while, I was having to keep up with husband and son, both fast
    eaters

    I'm reminded of the old joke where one guy says to another that
    eating slowly one eats less. The other guy replies, Yeah, it was like that in my family as well.

    I can relate to that joke... ;)

    My baby brother had similar issues with seeing... he got his first pair
    of glasses... and could finally see the stars in the night sky

    I remember wearing glasses for the first time and remembering there
    were stars in the sky, and coloured blobs were signs, etc.

    I know... my brother also found it a bit mind-blowing... as well as an eye-opener.... ;) "So THAT'S what you were talking about all this
    time...." ;)

    I don't get lost either... I just explore.... Sometimes intentionally,
    sometimes less so...

    I recall in '84 I had visited a friend in Erie, saw the Falls and on
    the way to Syracuse.
    I made a wrong turn in Buffalo at the big traffic circle and was completely lost. I don't remember how many gas stations I stopped to
    ask the way back to Rt 20. Everyone, to a man said, "I don't know" or "Never heard of it". After a while I was beginning to think I was in
    the Twilight Zone and would spend the rest of my life driving around aimlessly looking for that phantom highway. :)

    duh-dih-duh-dah-duh-dih-duh-dah ;) Probably the locals only knew it
    by the street name, not the route number....

    Needless to say I did eventually find it.

    Obviously, you needed to have had a good map with you.... ;) That was
    probably already too late to get nice maps from gas stations....

    ttyl neb

    ... "Home" is where the computer is plugged in!

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Mon Apr 8 15:21:00 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 04-03-19 13:00 <=-

    I went to the local Pizza Hut buffet today...3 guys at a nearby
    table were seeing who could let out the raunchiest belch from their drinks. I just kept quiet, as I used to do that myself.

    In certain company, that could be considered acceptable behaviour... :)

    One can eat a bowl of cornflakes with appreciation as much as one can a
    big juicy steak... :) It may be primarily for fuel for the body, but
    that doesn't mean one can't also take the time to savor it... :)

    That's how I want to do a Thanksgiving Day meal...from the dinner
    roll, all the way to the pumpkin pie.

    A particularly good meal for that practice... but it holds true even
    with the simpler meals... :)

    My baby brother had similar issues with seeing... he got his first pair
    of glasses... and could finally see the stars in the night sky... and
    discovered that those big blurs of green were actually highway road
    signs with words on them.... <G>

    One of them literally fell off of its signage perch onto Interstate
    30, damaging a vehicle, and causing wrecks and a traffic jam.

    That's not supposed to happen.... Those are big signs, and supposedly
    well moored and anchored.... Were there extenuating circumstances...?

    I don't get lost either... I just explore.... Sometimes intentionally,
    sometimes less so... <G> Afterwards, I'll check it out on the map to
    see what might have led me astray, and/or to solidify the better
    route that I just found... ;)

    As long as I don't get lost heading to the kitchen, bedroom, and especially the bathroom, I'll be OK. <G>

    I can find those rooms just fine.... it's just that sometimes I forget
    why I was going there... ;0

    ttyl neb

    ... Every time I think I know where it is, they move it!

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Tue Apr 9 06:10:24 2019
    Nancy wrote --

    "Never heard of it". After a while I was beginning to think I was
    in the Twilight Zone and would spend the rest of my life driving around aimlessly looking for that phantom highway. :)

    duh-dih-duh-dah-duh-dih-duh-dah ;) Probably the locals only knew it
    by the street name, not the route number....

    Possible.

    Needless to say I did eventually find it.

    Obviously, you needed to have had a good map with you.... ;) That was probably already too late to get nice maps from gas stations....

    I had a map, but found I was just a couple of blocks from where I
    wanted to be. And yes there were still maps at gas stations but none had
    the information I needed.
    I recall one time this out-of-towner asked me where such-and-such was.
    I gave him directions and we went our separate ways. A few minutes
    later I realised, to my horror, I had given him the wrong direction,
    thinking the place he wanted was another one.
    For all I know he may still be driving around trying to find it 35
    years later. :)
    Joe

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Tue Apr 9 08:20:00 2019
    Nancy,

    In certain company, that could be considered acceptable behaviour... :)

    In some cultures, if you don't belch or fart after a meal, it's
    considered an INSULT to the chef!! :P

    A particularly good meal for that practice... but it holds true even
    with the simpler meals... :)

    I'm just on a simple diet...lunch meat sandwiches. Buddig has 90
    calorie packs of things like Turkey, Ham, Honey Roasted Turkey, Honey
    Roasted Ham, Black Forest Ham (my favorite), and some other varieties.
    The sodium count per pack is just over 500 milligrams, but the slices
    are very thin. I just add mustard and some bacon bits, into the sandwich
    (white bread -- the cheapest brand I could find), and it's lunchtime. Admittedly, this limited cuisine does get old, but after all the other
    bills right now, I can't afford to get fancy on food.

    That's not supposed to happen.... Those are big signs, and supposedly NB>well moored and anchored.... Were there extenuating circumstances...?

    Not sure...but the way some folks drive around here, you have to
    wonder. I've seen several instances of the flashing red lights on the
    railroad crossing signals come out of their holders, and have had to
    call the Union Pacific Railroad Grade Crossing Hotline to report it. All
    the major railroads have such a hotline, to report problems with the
    train, or with the crossing signals.

    I can find those rooms just fine.... it's just that sometimes I forget NB>why I was going there... ;0

    You and me both. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Apr 10 13:31:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-09-19 06:10 <=-

    "Never heard of it". After a while I was beginning to think I was
    in the Twilight Zone and would spend the rest of my life driving
    around aimlessly looking for that phantom highway. :)
    duh-dih-duh-dah-duh-dih-duh-dah ;) Probably the locals only knew it
    by the street name, not the route number....

    Possible.

    And often, within city/town limits, the route is on various streets as
    it works through the area...

    Needless to say I did eventually find it.
    Obviously, you needed to have had a good map with you.... ;) That was probably already too late to get nice maps from gas stations....

    I had a map, but found I was just a couple of blocks from where I
    wanted to be. And yes there were still maps at gas stations but none
    had the information I needed.

    Nothing with the local detail...? Or anyone that could show you, You
    Are Here, on a map....

    I recall one time this out-of-towner asked me where such-and-such
    was. I gave him directions and we went our separate ways. A few
    minutes later I realised, to my horror, I had given him the wrong direction, thinking the place he wanted was another one.

    Maybe he just lucked into the right place... or someone else was able to
    set him straight... :)

    For all I know he may still be driving around trying to find it 35
    years later. :)

    I'm sure that by now, he would have given up on it, and be off somewhere
    else by now... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... I guess it takes more than birthdays to get maturity!

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Wed Apr 10 13:40:00 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 04-09-19 08:25 <=-

    In certain company, that could be considered acceptable behaviour... :)

    In some cultures, if you don't belch or fart after a meal, it's
    considered an INSULT to the chef!! :P

    Indeed. :)

    A particularly good meal for that practice... but it holds true even
    with the simpler meals... :)

    I'm just on a simple diet...lunch meat sandwiches. Buddig has 90
    calorie packs of things like Turkey, Ham, Honey Roasted Turkey, Honey Roasted Ham, Black Forest Ham (my favorite), and some other varieties.
    The sodium count per pack is just over 500 milligrams, but the slices
    are very thin. I just add mustard and some bacon bits, into the
    sandwich (white bread -- the cheapest brand I could find), and it's lunchtime. Admittedly, this limited cuisine does get old, but after all the other bills right now, I can't afford to get fancy on food.

    And you can be thankful that you have food of any sort... :)

    I can find those rooms just fine.... it's just that sometimes I forget
    why I was going there... ;0

    You and me both. <G>

    Some are more obvious than others... ;) But when I get there and don't remember why/what, I can go back where I was... usually it comes back to
    me then... and I can try again... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Thu Apr 11 05:32:06 2019
    Nancy wrote --

    I had a map, but found I was just a couple of blocks from where I
    wanted to be. And yes there were still maps at gas stations but
    none had the information I needed.

    Nothing with the local detail...? Or anyone that could show you, You
    Are Here, on a map....

    Most of the gas jockeys I spoke to were uniformly rude and gave the impression I was interrupting something important they were doing, even
    if it was just leaning against a gas pump.
    I've told this story several times over the years and almost to a
    person people who have traveled in NY (either city or state) tell me the
    same thing, they were told "I don't know".

    For all I know he may still be driving around trying to find it 35
    years later. :)

    I'm sure that by now, he would have given up on it, and be off
    somewhere else by now... :)

    I imagine. :)
    Another event in my life, which I think I've mentioned here before,
    was when I was around seven or eight.
    My father had gone to the court house of a neighbouring town. It was a
    hot summer day and I had been given an ice cream cone.
    Part way through the ice cream was melting faster than I could eat it
    and just tossed it out the open window. I tossed a bit too hard since it
    flew through the air landing on the drivers seat of a black '48 Ford sedan.
    Suddenly I went from carefree and happy to worried the owner would
    return before my father. What seemed like hours passed until my father
    came back and we left before that driver.
    For years when I saw a black '48 Ford sedan I was sure that was the
    driver looking for me. :)
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Apr 17 14:23:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-11-19 05:32 <=-

    I had a map, but found I was just a couple of blocks from where I wanted to be. And yes there were still maps at gas stations but
    none had the information I needed.
    Nothing with the local detail...? Or anyone that could show you, You
    Are Here, on a map....
    Most of the gas jockeys I spoke to were uniformly rude and gave the impression I was interrupting something important they were doing,
    even if it was just leaning against a gas pump.

    That's sad...

    I've told this story several times over the years and almost to a
    person people who have traveled in NY (either city or state) tell me
    the same thing, they were told "I don't know".

    I've traveled rather extensively in NYS, and somewhat in NYC... but
    perhaps I've been fortunate enough to not need to ask for directions or help.... :)

    For all I know he may still be driving around trying to find it 35 years later. :)
    I'm sure that by now, he would have given up on it, and be off
    somewhere else by now... :)
    I imagine. :)

    ..Instead of being like the song about Charlie and the MTA... his fate
    still unknown... "he may ride forever on the streets of Boston, he's the
    man who never returned"... :)

    Another event in my life, which I think I've mentioned here before,
    was when I was around seven or eight.
    My father had gone to the court house of a neighbouring town. It
    was a hot summer day and I had been given an ice cream cone.
    Part way through the ice cream was melting faster than I could eat
    it and just tossed it out the open window. I tossed a bit too hard
    since it flew through the air landing on the drivers seat of a black
    '48 Ford sedan. Suddenly I went from carefree and happy to worried
    the owner would return before my father. What seemed like hours passed until my father came back and we left before that driver.
    For years when I saw a black '48 Ford sedan I was sure that was the
    driver looking for me. :)

    I'm sure the statute of limitations has expired on that one... and
    probably so has the owner of that sedan... ;) That would have been
    quite the surprise for him/her, coming back to the car... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Thu Apr 18 06:22:26 2019
    Nancy wrote --

    Most of the gas jockeys I spoke to were uniformly rude and gave
    the impression I was interrupting something important they were doing,
    even if it was just leaning against a gas pump.

    That's sad...

    Yep.
    Usually if I take an unexpected side trip I can use a map to find my
    way back. The most common cause of these side trips is being in a busy
    city and little opportunity to pull off the road. Stuck in a line of
    fast moving traffic, etc.
    In 1973 I was moving back to WV from CO and visiting folks along the
    way. I was going from Cedar Rapids, Iowa to Farmington Hills, MI
    (outside Detroit) and was in the wrong lane to make an exit near Chicago.
    Pulling a small U-Haul didn't help.
    I kept trying to get in the exit lane with traffic whizzing by on both
    sides with horns honking, getting the you're number one wave, people
    yelling.
    I was eventually allowed over and glad to get off that road.

    I've traveled rather extensively in NYS, and somewhat in NYC... but
    perhaps I've been fortunate enough to not need to ask for directions or help.... :)

    I seldom ask for directions, I just figure eventually I'll run across whatever I'm looking for. :)
    The only time is if I am pressed for time. Or way far afield.

    ..Instead of being like the song about Charlie and the MTA... his fate
    still unknown... "he may ride forever on the streets of Boston, he's
    the man who never returned"... :)

    When I was in NYC around 1971, I never had a problem with the subway.
    Of course being in uniform (my ship made a stop on the way to RI)
    people were a bit more understanding.
    There were all these warnings about how dangerous NYC was. I never had
    a problem. No one so much as said boo to me. I never felt unsafe.
    The USO provided smallish city maps with places of interest here and
    there, which subway/bus to take, etc.

    For years when I saw a black '48 Ford sedan I was sure that was
    the driver looking for me. :)

    I'm sure the statute of limitations has expired on that one

    I hope so!

    ... and probably so has the owner of that sedan... ;)

    That too! :)
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Thu Apr 18 15:18:00 2019
    Nancy,

    ... There's no substitute for incomprehensible good luck.

    I could use some in the worst way. I feel like the group on "Hee Haw"...noting "if it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all".

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to ED VANCE on Wed May 8 11:58:00 2019
    Quoting Ed Vance to Nancy Backus on 05-04-19 10:11 <=-

    I was 16 when the F.C.C. licensed Me as KN4ZIQ.
    The ZIQ part means - Zero Intelligence Quotient ( 0.0 I.Q. ) .
    Was that your choice, or was it the usual assignment for novices...?

    The F.C.C. issued licenses in alphabetically order back in the late 1950's. I knew a Ham who was issued the suffix YXY to his call sign, so
    I was fairly sure the call sign I would get would start with a Z, I was hopeing for ZAP but when it came time for the F.C.C. to get to My paperwork ZIQ was next in line to be issued to someone in the Fourth
    Call Area so they gave that one to Me.

    Ah, ok... it's like the auto license plates here... When I got my
    current car, I knew I'd be getting new plates, the series was just
    getting into starting with B, so I'd hoped for BAC... what I got was
    BYC...

    On my Hallicrafter S38E receiver I would listen to local Hams talking
    and some of them had made up interesting Phonetics for their call sign letters, so I tried and tried and tried to figure out some words for
    mine.
    One night as I was laying in bed, about six months after I got the
    license ZERO INTELLIGENCE QUOTIENT came to my mind and I stuck with
    that until I moved to Indiana which is in the Ninth Call Area, so I
    sent a Form to the F.C.C. to Modify my license for that area.

    Cute... ;) So your choice as to what the phonetics would be, but the
    luck of the draw for getting them in the first place....

    I was issued WA9WSB, Washers, Screws and Bolts is what I choose to use
    for phonetics even thought some of my friends wanted Me to use:
    We Sell Beer, but that one wasn't to my liking.

    I'm with you on that... <G> Never even liked the taste of beer,
    myself... not an issue with alcohol, just the hops in the beer as it
    turned out....

    In the 1970's I applied for another change of call sign and got W9ODR, which immediately My Ham Friends called Old Dirty Rat and I liked that
    one so I use it.

    I'll have to remember that one... ;) I often play the same game with
    license plates as I see them... we've come up with some rather creative
    ones over the years... I decided that my BYC stands for Baby Your Car...

    Stay Tuned, Same Time, Same Frequency.
    (I remember the old phrase was Same Time, Same Channel - but I never
    had a Citizens Band Radio License, so I use the word Frequency instead
    of Channel.)
    And bbsing isn't quite the same either, not being time-dependent for
    connection... ;) But it's the same echo, anyway.... ;)

    I can grab a QWK Packet from Mike Powell's Capital City BBS almost any time of Day or Night, except for two time slots when the BBS is getting new mail.
    Mike has helped Me learn how to get a QWK Packet using FTP instead of TELNET.

    And I can do the same from any of the bbses I call, except I still do it
    by telnet... :)

    I made a BAT File that calls a FTP Script to do the work of checking
    for Mail and I'm only Signed On for less than a minute and then Signed
    Off and start Reading, Lurking, Giggling, Replying whatever... to what
    I see in the packet.

    Nice to see you replying more than lurking lately, btw... :) I don't
    mind being signed on to the bbs for a bit longer time... I check out the
    day's traffic, play my turn in Scrabble (and some places, a couple other games), one place I can check the weather forecast.. and I also do my
    mail run, up and downloading... :)

    ... ME sane? I don't think so!! ;*)
    When it comes to being sane I'm NOT with the IN CROWD.

    I've got a tagline that says the opposite... ;) (Omits the NOT)

    Did You or the Wizard ever use a Commodore 64 or 128 PC?

    That might have been what my sister's husband had at one time... I'd go
    over to borrow their computer to do my minutes on their word processor
    before we had our own PC.... My sister talked me into it... Dunno what
    all the Wizard used at work (or back in college in the computer
    center)... definitely mainframes, but possibly also some other as well...

    ttyl neb

    ... Format: (v.) to erase irrevocably and unintentionally.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Wed May 8 12:31:00 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-03-19 16:35 <=-

    Both of those are truly horrifying... as well as dangerous/lethal
    mistakes... I heard of people ending up in fields.... and one couple
    found themselves at a gated community where they weren't welcome....
    Barry's been wondering about what might happen when GPSs that don't
    know about that major bridge rebuild near him try to direct people
    onto the old non-existant bridge... and hence right into the river....

    If you're depending on an alternate device, rather than your own
    resources and common sense, you're asking for trouble. If I was
    traveling and driving, I'd go through AAA, and let their Trip Planning Service map out the route for me, with places to see, stay at, etc.

    My feelings as well... and I do go to AAA and get my maps from them,
    sometimes also getting the TourBook(s) for the region(s) I'm visiting...
    and I'll sit down with their advisors and plan out my trip, to get the
    TripTik custom-made to my preferences...

    However, since I prefer to travel by train (Amtrak), I map out the
    route, and am content to "let someone else do the driving".

    That can work, too... although it's not quite as flexible... :)

    That wasn't what she thought you should be doing... I don't use the
    things myself... nor do I intend to, ever.... :)

    I don't care to, either...and my car (formerly my Mom's) doesn't
    have it in there. Plus, if you have one of those in plain sight, you're asking to get your vehicle vandalized for it.

    Perhaps not as much nowadays, with so many people having them now....
    kinda like the car radio, which used to be a prime target for thieves,
    but now rarely is....

    Was the GPS for the train, then...? Or were you in a car (not a train
    car) when you were using it....?

    I was in the Conductors Cabin (akin to where the Conductor used to
    be on a freight train, when they had cabooses)...and it was awfully cramped in there. We were "rolling down the high iron", and during my conversation (QSO), you heard the train sound the horn for an upcoming highway railroad crossing.

    So what was the GPS for, anyway, then....? Or am I still missing something....?

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu May 9 13:06:00 2019
    Joe,

    One time on Fred Allen's show when he was a guest and Allen went on
    and about his frugality. Finally he erupted saying "The writers on
    MY show don't make me that cheap!"

    Or, he didn't want to admit it. <G>

    Ah, that look, wiggling his cigar and leering when he was about to
    say something. Classic.

    It was...and it took forever for the audience to quit laughing. <G>

    Comedy isn't like that today. ==sigh==

    Sad, but true. They think "the raunchier, the better"...such as some
    of the material with Ventriloquist Jeff Dunham.

    Now, 2 other ventriloquists...Todd Oliver (who uses his dog, Irving,
    in his act), and 14 year old singing ventriloquist Darci Lynn Farmer,
    both have G-Rated shows...and they are a riot!! Not one hint of
    suggestiveness, innuendo, profanity, etc.

    On "America's Got Talent", when judge Howard Stern (aka "The Shock
    Jock") told Todd that "he needed to spice the act up a bit (with
    language), Todd said "I don't want my kids exposed to that garbage", and
    they penalized him for that.

    Darci Lynn Farmer won the 2012 AGT competition, up against Angelica
    Hale (about 2 1/2 years younger than Darci), but both are great friends.
    It was noble of her to invite Angelica and her family to come to Las
    Vegas with her, and be part of the show...which sold out quick. I saw
    Todd in Branson a few years ago, and Darci is coming to Little Rock in November...but right now, I can't afford to buy a ticket.

    I'm a big fan of What's My Line and watch a couple of shows a week,
    on Sunday of course.

    I think John Daly (not the golfer) and Wally Bruner, were 2 of the
    hosts. There may have been others, but I don't call them.

    Poor Bennett Cerf. If he were alive today he wouldn't last two
    minutes on a stage.

    Didn't he did a book on riddles??

    When a pretty girl was trying to stump them he would make some
    remark about her looks and if that helped her in whatever she work
    she did.

    The night on What's My Life, when you had Arlene Francis, Dorothy
    Kilgallen, Groucho Marx, and Bennett Cerf on the panel, the contestant
    was a female lady wrestler...and it was an absolute scream. Groucho was
    milking it for all it was worth!! <G> Host John Daly admonished Groucho
    that "if he didn't behave, she'd put him on the floor!!" <G>.

    This time of of year its still light out when I turn in.
    Of course I'm up around 4.30 or 5.

    You're like my late father was...up before the chickens...or as I term
    it "the butt crack of dawn".

    I'm old fashioned. I print out a free calendar (on the back of
    junk mail) and use that for appointments, etc. With a couple of
    flips of paper I can see the whole year. Plus I don't have the worry
    of a crash or accidentally hitting "delete" and lose everything.

    I have 365 dates a year...there's a calendar on the wall <G>.

    Daryl
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to ED VANCE on Thu May 9 13:07:00 2019
    Howdy! Again Daryl,

    Hi, Ed...

    After leaving the Space Center We learned that was a Convention (not Ham) EV>in town and it took a lot of stops to find a Motel that had a room available
    for Us that night.
    Huntsville must be a very popular place for groups to gather.

    I saw where they're starting construction on a new hotel near the Von
    Braun Center.

    There's Marc and then there's )\/(ark, two different Lewis's in two differen
    places.

    But there's only ONE JOE!

    If he's cloning himself, then we're in trouble. <g,d,r>

    And ONE YOU!

    I've found others with similar names on Skype and Facebook...and there
    was even a ham at one time.

    We Are All Unique!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Just like your thumb print...you are thumb-body. <G>

    I have to credit that to Christian comedian and singer Mark Lowery.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Thu May 9 13:07:00 2019
    Nancy,

    My feelings as well... and I do go to AAA and get my maps from them, NB>sometimes also getting the TourBook(s) for the region(s) I'm visiting... NB>and I'll sit down with their advisors and plan out my trip, to get the NB>TripTik custom-made to my preferences...

    I also use their identity theft monitoring, along with one from
    Discover Card. I don't have a credit card anymore, but after being the
    victim of identity theft several years ago, one can't be too careful.

    That can work, too... although it's not quite as flexible... :)

    Well, not having funding to travel makes it less flexible. :P

    Perhaps not as much nowadays, with so many people having them now.... NB>kinda like the car radio, which used to be a prime target for thieves, NB>but now rarely is....

    If the car "looks like crap", they're not as likely to steal it.

    I remember several years ago, in the Dallas area, there was a rash of
    car break-ins, thefts, etc. So, the police department rigged up these
    real nice cars into "rolling booby traps"...yet, they looked like
    nothing fancy had been done to them. They'd leave the vehicle in a high
    theft area, with keys in the ignition, unlocked, etc. baiting the
    thieves.

    On one TV show, Janice and I were watching it...and the cops were
    laughing like mad at the thieves actions. The cops let them have their
    fun for a time, then decided they'd had enough. They pressed a button,
    and the doors locked, the windows rolled up, the engine died, and as the
    car coasted to a stop, the radio blared the theme from COPS"..."What
    'cha gonna do when they come for you??", as police cars pulled up around
    the vehicle. The thugs were dead to rights...caught in the act!!

    So what was the GPS for, anyway, then....? Or am I still missing NB>something....?

    Usually it was for us to see where we were on the route. As we
    traveled from central to northwest Arkansas and back, it gave us updates
    on traffic, construction, detours (if needed, etc.). I now use the app
    from IDriveArkansas.Com -- both on the phone and the website...checking
    that before I go out. If I see traffic snarls, I avoid the area, or
    delay the trip.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu May 9 12:52:00 2019
    Joe,

    But there's only ONE JOE!

    And ONE YOU!

    We Are All Unique!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Some of us are more uniquer than others. :)

    Braggert. <G>

    Sounds like the ending from George Orwell's "Animal Farm".

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Thu May 9 21:57:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 05-07-19 07:56 <=-

    The trickiest part of Rochester will be coordinating with Jim... you
    might have to hang around for a couple days to connect with both of
    us... ;)

    I'll leave it up to you to let him know the date and time.
    If he misses that's his bad luck. :)

    Hmmmm... hopefully I still have his contact info somewhere... ;)
    Haven't actually been in contact with him for quite a while now....

    And when do you actually hit the road and start your road trip...?

    Monday the 13th.
    I pick up my car at 8.30, then load and plan to be on the road
    around 10-ish.

    Will you be keeping up with the echo while you are on your road trip...?
    Or will the only way to reach you be by phone....?

    First stop is Alexandria, VA to see a couple of old friends, then
    the 15th is Gettysburg then Harrisburg that evening. Leave there on
    the 17th head toward NYC. (So far those are only rooms I have
    reserved. I don't want to arrive somewhere and find there is no room
    at the inn. I plan to stay there about two or three days (max) and
    staying with a FOAF I've never met. Then on to Syracuse for another
    two (max three) days.

    Plotting that out on my calendar puts your arrival dangerously close to
    when I'm going out of town for an overnight trip up to the Adirondacks
    for my spring board meeting on the 25th... planning to drive up Friday
    and come home after the meeting the afternoon of Saturday.... I'd be
    getting home probably after 8pm Saturday... Sunday is church pretty much
    the whole day....

    I'll know more about my arrival in Rochester
    once I get to Syracuse. That way the bands and parade for my arrival
    will have a better time, along with city dignities with the speeches of welcome, the mayor giving me the key to city and all the other things
    and surprises I'm sure you have planned. :)

    Well, if you arrive on Memorial Day (27th), that might be
    arrangeable.... sort of... <G>

    ttyl neb

    ... A bird in the hand means broiled goose for dinner

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Fri May 10 06:55:06 2019
    Daryl wrote --

    Some of us are more uniquer than others. :)

    Braggert. <G>

    I was referring to you. :)

    Sounds like the ending from George Orwell's "Animal Farm".

    Oink oink.
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Fri May 10 07:19:22 2019
    Nancy wrote --

    Hmmmm... hopefully I still have his contact info somewhere... ;)
    Haven't actually been in contact with him for quite a while now....

    I better drop him another line and remind him.

    Will you be keeping up with the echo while you are on your road
    trip...?

    Off and on.
    When I hit NYC and Syracuse I'll probably be too busy.
    Its bad form to sit in the corner when visiting guests playing on
    the laptop. :)
    Once I hit Syracuse I'll have a more definite arrival day and time.
    I discovered by accident I can get driving time between cities with
    Google.
    I had been using a ruler and measuring distance, factoring in
    speed, and adding time for unexpected events, etc. Then putting that
    to paper.
    Now I just give from here to there then cut and paste that average
    to a text file. So no trying to figure out when the writing is cold
    "what does this mean?" :)
    The only problem is Google uses interstate travel and I want to
    avoid them as much as possible. Thus, adding time.
    Ex: Driving distance with Google from Syracuse to Rochester is
    around 90 minutes. I figure with my speed, road, etc. I'd give
    myself two hours to be on the safe side.

    Or will the only way to reach you be by phone....?

    I'll drop an e-mail saying something like "I plan to arrive on X
    day", following with one saying at such-and-such time asking the best
    place to meet. I would like to time the meetings around lunch or
    early afternoon.
    This general principle applies also to Daryl, Ed and Mark (Mike,
    Mick, Mork, whoever <g? in Frankfort.

    Plotting that out on my calendar puts your arrival dangerously
    close to when I'm going out of town

    Seems almost everyone on my trip is planning on leaving town when I
    plan to be in their area... Hmmm...
    My dates are subject to change. I may stay two days in NYC and
    Syracuse or I may stay three. Instead of one day going up the Hudson
    it might be two. Depends on what catches my eye.
    I was thinking of adding Waukeegan, IL to my trip to visit the home
    town of Jack Benny, my role model in money management. But from what
    I've read there is really nothing there to see other than a high
    school named after him and a statue in a park. I may or may not go
    there, but that's long after seeing you and Jim.
    Joe
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Fri May 10 07:42:24 2019
    Daryl wrote to Nancy --

    I remember several years ago, in the Dallas area, there was a
    rash of car break-ins, thefts, etc.

    We had a soft top Jeep on campus a few years the owner had taped to
    a window a note reading: "Everything that can be stolen has been
    stolen. This car has no radio, speakers", and on and with the list
    read and at the end was "But you are happy to look around if you
    want". I about laughing over that.

    fun for a time, then decided they'd had enough. They pressed a
    button, and the doors locked, the windows rolled up, the engine died

    I've seen videos of those on You Tube.
    Speaking of which.
    Several years ago the Marshall PD got new Impala's. These had a
    panic button somewhere on the dash that rolled up the windows, locked
    the doors inside and out with kill switch to the engine among other
    things.
    A couple of days after they first arrived they were at a car wash.
    The doors were open when the guy was wiping down the dash area and accidentally hit that button. I, not knowing about this button,
    climbed into the back seat to watch as others who were trying to
    figure out how to over ride this. When I got in, being a chilly
    morning, I absent-mindlessly shut the door, which being a police car
    can only be opened from the outside. And with the screen between me
    and the back seat I was trapped.
    The car wash people, several cops and a woman from the parking
    office (who had been called in to help figure this out) were all
    standing around shaking their heads and laughing.
    Even the chief got involved and shaking his head and sighing.
    About a half hour later it reset and the doors could be opened.
    The chief looked at me and said the only time he wanted me in the
    back of that car again was I was to be in cuffs. LOL

    So what was the GPS for, anyway, then....? Or am I still
    missing something....?

    Usually it was for us to see where we were on the route.

    Our buses have them and with a free app so one see where the bus is
    en-route to that stop.
    GPS is also used to track cars that are stolen.
    Plus, one can look up a car and see where it is.
    Joe
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Fri May 10 11:00:00 2019
    Joe,

    Some of us are more uniquer than others. :)

    Braggert. <G>

    I was referring to you. :)

    <BLUSH!> :P

    Sounds like the ending from George Orwell's "Animal Farm".

    Oink oink.

    Whenever my late wife saw a pig, she said she thought of "ham, bacon, sausage, pork, etc.". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Fri May 10 11:03:00 2019
    Joe,

    We had a soft top Jeep on campus a few years the owner had taped to
    a window a note reading: "Everything that can be stolen has been
    stolen. This car has no radio, speakers", and on and with the list
    read and at the end was "But you are happy to look around if you
    want". I about laughing over that.

    Talk about an open invitation!!

    The chief looked at me and said the only time he wanted me in the
    back of that car again was I was to be in cuffs. LOL

    You're lucky he didn't bust you right then.

    GPS is also used to track cars that are stolen.
    Plus, one can look up a car and see where it is.

    I have an app on my smartphone, so I could enter the correct LAT/LON
    data for the APRS ham radio application, so folks can see "where I am"
    on aprs.fi -- however, the data that's entered off of the D-Rats ham
    radio application "never changes"...but it shows where I'm at.

    If I'm not here, can I raise my hand?? :P

    On second thought, maybe I should put the hand back down. Oh well,
    tomorrow is Saturday night. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Fri May 10 11:10:00 2019
    Joe,

    Its bad form to sit in the corner when visiting guests playing on
    the laptop. :)

    Sorry about that...I got bored with your conversation. <G>

    I'll drop an e-mail saying something like "I plan to arrive on X
    day", following with one saying at such-and-such time asking the best JM>place to meet. I would like to time the meetings around lunch or
    early afternoon.

    I've decided where we'll graze...I just need to know the route you're
    coming when you get closer, to give you directions. Little Rock isn't as
    big as St. Louis, Dallas, Nashville, or Jackson...but you can get lost
    in a hurry, if you don't know where you're going.

    This general principle applies also to Daryl, Ed and Mark (Mike,
    Mick, Mork, whoever <g? in Frankfort.

    You forgot Mindy being with Mork...but it's Mike in Frankfort. <G>

    Seems almost everyone on my trip is planning on leaving town when I
    plan to be in their area... Hmmm...

    If it had been this time in 2020, I might have been headed to Spokane.
    Right now, if I do get a trip, it'd be in September, 2019...or June,
    2020.

    Daryl

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Sat May 11 05:36:50 2019
    Daryl wrote --

    I've decided where we'll graze...I just need to know the route you're coming when you get closer,

    I'll be on Rt 167, coming from Louisiana. Then continuing NNE to Ed in
    New Albany, IN.
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat May 11 13:12:00 2019
    Joe,

    I'll be on Rt 167, coming from Louisiana. Then continuing NNE to Ed in
    New Albany, IN.

    OK, you'll be coming up from El Dorado. US 167 eventually joins with Interstate 530 heading north from Pine Bluff to Little Rock. At the
    "South Terminal Interchange", you have:

    1) Interstate 440, the bypass around the southeast side of Little Rock,
    with the closest access to Little Rock National Airport. Right now, at Interstate 40, it changes to "Arkansas State Highway 440". Political lollygagging, boondoggling, etc. as well as resident and government
    opposition, have prevented it from making a full loop around the
    northside of the Little Rock Metro Area. Right now, the north end of it
    is at the junction of US 67/167 to Jacksonville and communities further northeast.

    2) Interstate 30...westbound to Benton, Malvern, Hot Springs, Texarkana,
    and eventually to Dallas and Fort Worth...then eastbound to where it
    junctions with Interstate 40 -- westbound to Conway, Russellville, Fort
    Smith, and Oklahoma City...and eastbound to Lonoke, Brinkley, Memphis, Nashville, and Knoxville.

    You'll stay on I-30 until Exit 143, and take Interstate 40 east, like
    you're going toward Memphis. Look for Exit 155 on the left, US67/167 to Jacksonville (where the Little Rock Air Force Base is located), and
    Saint Louis. Eventually, that entire stretch will be renamed Interstate
    57.

    Take Exit 155, and go to Exit 2. You'll get off there, and do a
    turnaround under the overpass (the service roads on each side of the
    freeway are one way, with the flow of traffic). Once headed back south,
    look for The Golden Corral Restaurant on your right. I think they open
    at 11am during the week, but do a breakfast buffet on the weekends.

    I know I'm tied up on Saturday, June 1, and Saturday, June 8, with ham
    radio license exams -- but right now, Saturday, June 15, looks free.

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Sat May 11 20:57:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 05-08-19 06:19 <=-

    We'll have to figure out meeting place(s)... :)

    Plus a time.

    That, too... :)

    I've seen that sort of thing when a state route gets updated and
    moved a little... often there are patches of the old road to the
    side... some of them actually still in use, and connecting at both
    ends, but some just fragments...

    We have a state road here, Rt 2, that's north-south, runs mostly
    along the Ohio River.
    It was one of the first paved highways in WV, in the late '20's and
    was brick. In the '40's or '50's it was straightened a bit (it had
    gone around farms and such) and made of concrete. Portions of the
    old brick road still are in use, as limited access to various places, such as a house that was along the old road.

    And probably stay in better repair than the current state road... ;)

    Huntington once had its own brick works for buildings as well as
    streets. We still have brick streets here and there though most are paved with asphalt.
    Funny thing. With the slight gaps between the bricks for water run
    off they never get a pot hole. A street of concrete or asphalt will. Those that were paved over the hole will go to the brick and stop.
    The others with no brick under them have holes deep enough to get
    lost in.

    I've seen that happen here, too... The main street nearest our house had
    (maybe still does) an underlay of the original brick road, with the
    trolley tracks that ran in the middle... I'm pretty sure they've taken
    out the tracks now... it's all paved over with asphalt anyway....

    Sometimes looking at Mapquest or Google they will show
    something the atlas doesn't mention. I mean, there is only so much room on the page...
    Yup... when the map is to a larger scale, a lot more detail can be
    added... and places of interest are more likely to show up... :)

    One thing I miss are state maps you could find at every gas
    station. Those are gone now. Oh I imagine they are still around somewhere, tourist stops and all, but not on every corner like
    before. Those often held a a lot of detail.

    Yup, that's the sort I stock up on from AAA.... And now that the
    membership is on the person, not the vehicle, it could be worth your
    while to join up if you haven't already... Some years I've paid for my membership just in the maps and trip routing... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Sat May 11 21:21:00 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-09-19 13:12 <=-

    My feelings as well... and I do go to AAA and get my maps from them,
    sometimes also getting the TourBook(s) for the region(s) I'm
    visiting... and I'll sit down with their advisors and plan out my
    trip, to get the TripTik custom-made to my preferences...

    I also use their identity theft monitoring, along with one from
    Discover Card. I don't have a credit card anymore, but after being the victim of identity theft several years ago, one can't be too careful.

    I don't use AAA's for that... did have one for free for a while after
    something had been hacked... never have had an issue, thankfully... :)

    That can work, too... although it's not quite as flexible... :)

    Well, not having funding to travel makes it less flexible. :P

    There is that... ;0

    If the car "looks like crap", they're not as likely to steal it.

    Except, perhaps, for a joy ride....

    I remember several years ago, in the Dallas area, there was a rash
    of car break-ins, thefts, etc. So, the police department rigged up
    these real nice cars into "rolling booby traps"...yet, they looked like nothing fancy had been done to them. They'd leave the vehicle in a
    high theft area, with keys in the ignition, unlocked, etc. baiting the thieves.
    On one TV show, Janice and I were watching it...and the cops were
    laughing like mad at the thieves actions. The cops let them have their
    fun for a time, then decided they'd had enough. They pressed a button,
    and the doors locked, the windows rolled up, the engine died, and as
    the car coasted to a stop, the radio blared the theme from
    COPS"..."What 'cha gonna do when they come for you??", as police cars pulled up around the vehicle. The thugs were dead to rights...caught in the act!!

    I wonder if they thought twice the next time.... <G>

    So what was the GPS for, anyway, then....? Or am I still missing
    something....?

    Usually it was for us to see where we were on the route. As we
    traveled from central to northwest Arkansas and back, it gave us
    updates on traffic, construction, detours (if needed, etc.).

    But if you were on a train, what good are those updates....? If you
    were driving a vehicle, I understand better.... :)

    I now use the app from IDriveArkansas.Com -- both on the phone and
    the website...checking that before I go out. If I see traffic
    snarls, I avoid the area, or delay the trip.

    Warned ahead of time... you'd be able to make other plans, then...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Sun May 12 09:29:00 2019
    Nancy,

    But if you were on a train, what good are those updates....? If you
    were driving a vehicle, I understand better.... :)

    If I'm "ham radio railroad mobile", I can let folks know where I'm
    at...or for my edification, to know where I'm at.

    Warned ahead of time... you'd be able to make other plans, then...

    Weather, traffic, and construction...3 travel hazards. Hmmm...sounds
    like a tagline in the making. <G>

    ... Love me or leave me... HEY! where is everyone going!

    Sounds like my situation.

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Sun May 12 20:51:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 05-10-19 07:19 <=-

    Hmmmm... hopefully I still have his contact info somewhere... ;)
    Haven't actually been in contact with him for quite a while now....

    I better drop him another line and remind him.

    Just got a cc of his reply to you... so now I have both your phone and
    his numbers... ;)

    Will you be keeping up with the echo while you are on your road
    trip...?

    Off and on.
    When I hit NYC and Syracuse I'll probably be too busy.
    Its bad form to sit in the corner when visiting guests playing on
    the laptop. :)

    Unless they are similarly occupied... :)

    Once I hit Syracuse I'll have a more definite arrival day and time.

    Where do you head after Rochester....?

    I discovered by accident I can get driving time between cities with Google.
    I had been using a ruler and measuring distance, factoring in
    speed, and adding time for unexpected events, etc. Then putting that
    to paper.
    Now I just give from here to there then cut and paste that average
    to a text file. So no trying to figure out when the writing is cold "what does this mean?" :)
    The only problem is Google uses interstate travel and I want to
    avoid them as much as possible. Thus, adding time.
    Ex: Driving distance with Google from Syracuse to Rochester is
    around 90 minutes. I figure with my speed, road, etc. I'd give
    myself two hours to be on the safe side.

    My experience has been that often I can make as good, or at least almost
    as good, time using the back roads... sometimes, actually better.... But allowing extra time is a good idea, even when one is using interstates
    and/or the toll roads.... :)

    Or will the only way to reach you be by phone....?

    I'll drop an e-mail saying something like "I plan to arrive on X
    day", following with one saying at such-and-such time asking the best place to meet. I would like to time the meetings around lunch or
    early afternoon.

    Ah, so you'll still be checking your email on the trip... :)

    This general principle applies also to Daryl, Ed and Mark (Mike,
    Mick, Mork, whoever <g? in Frankfort.

    Plotting that out on my calendar puts your arrival dangerously
    close to when I'm going out of town

    Seems almost everyone on my trip is planning on leaving town when I
    plan to be in their area... Hmmm...
    My dates are subject to change. I may stay two days in NYC and
    Syracuse or I may stay three. Instead of one day going up the Hudson
    it might be two. Depends on what catches my eye.

    Just grist for your mill... It looks as though either the 22nd (Wed) or
    the 27th (Memorial Day/Monday) work best for me for your Rochester stop...
    or possibly the next day in the afternoon... I do have to be out of town
    for a meeting (I'm treasurer, have to be there) on that Saturday (25th),
    will be driving up on Friday, coming back by probably 8pm on Saturday... Hopefully there will be lots to detain you in the meantime.... <G>

    I was thinking of adding Waukeegan, IL to my trip to visit the home
    town of Jack Benny, my role model in money management. But from what I've read there is really nothing there to see other than a high
    school named after him and a statue in a park. I may or may not go there, but that's long after seeing you and Jim.

    Depends on whether or not you want to genuflect at his statue.... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Mon May 13 07:07:02 2019
    Daryl wrote --

    I'll be on Rt 167, coming from Louisiana. T

    OK, you'll be coming up from El Dorado.

    Thanks. Saved as text file.
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Mon May 13 07:15:24 2019
    Nancy wrote --

    (maybe still does) an underlay of the original brick road, with the
    trolley tracks that ran in the middle... I'm pretty sure they've taken
    out the tracks now... it's all paved over with asphalt anyway....

    We have only one section of trolley track left, which runs under a
    viaduct (underpass for the CSX mainline).
    I don't know if more remain or not. The powers that be started
    asphalting streets in the '50s.
    Another great thing about brick streets is road repair. If done right
    the bricks are taken up, whatever underneath is repaired, the bricks put
    back and you can't tell the street had been dug up.
    To often asphalt is just put there.

    while to join up if you haven't already... Some years I've paid for my membership just in the maps and trip routing... ;)

    I figure when I stop a motel if Mapquest or Google doesn't have a short
    cut listed the people there will know the city streets.
    If nothing else the above will be more detailed due to my position.
    Joe


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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Mon May 13 07:24:42 2019
    Nancy wrote --

    I better drop him another line and remind him.

    Just got a cc of his reply to you... so now I have both your phone and
    his numbers... ;)

    I dropped him a note a few days ago but haven't heard anything from him
    yet.

    Where do you head after Rochester....?

    Erie, Pa for a day or two, then on to Farmington Hills, MI (outside
    Detroit) for a day, then on to Denver.
    From there down to Roswell, NM (to visit Daryl's relatives and
    generally look for UFO's), on to San Antonio, TX, to LA then up to see
    Daryl, up to see Ed in IN, then Mark in Frankfort, KY and home. (From
    Ed's its a straight shot home).
    Not to mention expected (and unexpected) side trips.

    Just grist for your mill... It looks as though either the 22nd (Wed)
    or the 27th (Memorial Day/Monday) work best for me

    Ok.
    I'm still not sure of the date yet. Depends on how much I enjoy
    staying at other places along the way or how soon they put my suitcases
    outside their front door. :)
    I can give a more definite time and day once I hit Syracuse since
    Rochester is only about 90 minutes away.
    Joe
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Mon May 13 12:08:00 2019
    Joe,

    I'll be on Rt 167, coming from Louisiana. T

    OK, you'll be coming up from El Dorado.

    Thanks. Saved as text file.

    There'll probably be plenty of "orange men" (road construction
    barrels) to guide you through Arkansas. :P

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Mon May 13 12:18:00 2019
    Joe,

    From there down to Roswell, NM (to visit Daryl's relatives and
    generally look for UFO's), on to San Antonio, TX, to LA then up to see JM>Daryl, up to see Ed in IN, then Mark in Frankfort, KY and home. (From JM>Ed's its a straight shot home).

    If I have relatives in New Mexico, I guess it's the green character
    Roswell from the Hoyle Board Games. <G> I also liked Harley The Bear,
    and Marvin, the T-Rex.

    I do hope I can go to the ham radio event in Albuquerque in
    September...and I hope to find out soon.

    staying at other places along the way or how soon they put my suitcases JM>outside their front door. :)

    With a note asking "We want you to leave yesterday". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Tue May 14 21:20:00 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-12-19 09:34 <=-

    But if you were on a train, what good are those updates....? If you
    were driving a vehicle, I understand better.... :)

    If I'm "ham radio railroad mobile", I can let folks know where I'm
    at...or for my edification, to know where I'm at.

    Ah, ok... :)

    Warned ahead of time... you'd be able to make other plans, then...

    Weather, traffic, and construction...3 travel hazards. Hmmm...sounds
    like a tagline in the making. <G>

    Not pithy enough.... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Wed May 15 09:33:00 2019
    Nancy,

    If I'm "ham radio railroad mobile", I can let folks know where I'm at...or for my edification, to know where I'm at.

    Ah, ok... :)

    Plus, if I'm going to have a layover in a certain city along the way,
    I can alert local hams that I'm there, and they can come down to the
    depot to see me.

    Weather, traffic, and construction...3 travel hazards. Hmmm...sounds like a tagline in the making. <G>

    Not pithy enough.... <G>

    OK, how about the one below...shameless pilfered from a fellow ham
    radio operator??

    Daryl

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Thu May 16 07:17:30 2019
    Daryl wrote to Nancy --

    Plus, if I'm going to have a layover in a certain city along the way,
    I can alert local hams that I'm there, and they can come down to the
    depot to see me.

    Or remember some urgent business out of town. :)
    Joe
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu May 16 14:36:00 2019
    Joe,

    Plus, if I'm going to have a layover in a certain city along the way, JM>> I can alert local hams that I'm there, and they can come down to the
    depot to see me.

    Or remember some urgent business out of town. :)

    Boy, you're just full of good news. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to JOE MACKEY on Thu May 16 21:24:50 2019
    Hello JOE,

    16 May 19 07:17 at you wrote to DARYL STOUT:

    Or remember some urgent business out of town. :)

    Or, keeping with amateur radio tradition, suddenly discover that the local AYCE buffet is having a special that day. ;)

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to SEAN DENNIS on Fri May 17 04:45:00 2019
    Sean,

    Or remember some urgent business out of town. :)

    Or, keeping with amateur radio tradition, suddenly discover that the local SD>AYCE buffet is having a special that day. ;)

    Or like "The Ham Pager"...alerting hams to:

    1) Broken Down Krispy Kreme Truck
    2) Free Samples At Sam's Club
    3) All You Can Eat Chinese Buffet (substitute your favorite cuisine)
    4) Female On Repeater
    5) 2 For 1 Burgers

    Wonder if you can find these at the boneyard (flea market) at a
    hamfest?? <G>

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Daryl Stout on Fri May 17 21:38:32 2019
    Hello Daryl,

    17 May 19 04:45 at you wrote to me:

    Wonder if you can find these at the boneyard (flea market) at a hamfest?? <G>

    I've seen pictures of mockups on the Web. :D

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Sat May 18 09:11:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 05-13-19 07:24 <=-

    I better drop him another line and remind him.
    Just got a cc of his reply to you... so now I have both your phone and
    his numbers... ;)
    I dropped him a note a few days ago but haven't heard anything from
    him yet.

    You probably have by now... I got it late Sunday, but I think Jim and I
    are using the same ISP...

    Where do you head after Rochester....?
    Erie, Pa for a day or two, then on to Farmington Hills, MI (outside Detroit) for a day, then on to Denver.
    From there down to Roswell, NM (to visit Daryl's relatives and
    generally look for UFO's), on to San Antonio, TX, to LA then up to see Daryl, up to see Ed in IN, then Mark in Frankfort, KY and home. (From Ed's its a straight shot home).
    Not to mention expected (and unexpected) side trips.

    Sounds like a fun trip... :)

    Just grist for your mill... It looks as though either the 22nd (Wed)
    or the 27th (Memorial Day/Monday) work best for me
    Ok.
    I'm still not sure of the date yet. Depends on how much I enjoy
    staying at other places along the way or how soon they put my
    suitcases outside their front door. :)
    I can give a more definite time and day once I hit Syracuse since Rochester is only about 90 minutes away.

    I'll give you a call in the next couple of days... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Sat May 18 09:34:00 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-15-19 09:38 <=-

    If I'm "ham radio railroad mobile", I can let folks know where I'm
    at...or for my edification, to know where I'm at.
    Ah, ok... :)

    Plus, if I'm going to have a layover in a certain city along the
    way, I can alert local hams that I'm there, and they can come down to
    the depot to see me.

    That is a nice thing, too... :)

    Weather, traffic, and construction...3 travel hazards. Hmmm...sounds
    like a tagline in the making. <G>
    Not pithy enough.... <G>

    OK, how about the one below...shamelessly pilfered from a fellow ham
    radio operator??

    þ OLX 1.53 þ Dijon Vu: When you feel you've tasted this mustard
    before

    I have that one already, I'm sure... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Limburger smells like a cross between skunk juice and hangover breath.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Mon May 20 10:48:00 2019
    Nancy,

    Plus, if I'm going to have a layover in a certain city along the
    way, I can alert local hams that I'm there, and they can come down to the depot to see me.

    That is a nice thing, too... :)

    I saw a Facebook Live video of a ham radio operator on the Southwest
    Chief, heading into Gallup, New Mexico.

    þ OLX 1.53 þ Dijon Vu: When you feel you've tasted this mustard
    before

    I have that one already, I'm sure... :)

    It was new to me.

    ... Limburger smells like a cross between skunk juice and hangover breath.

    And a few other things we don't like to talk about. :P

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Wed May 22 13:50:00 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-20-19 10:53 <=-

    Plus, if I'm going to have a layover in a certain city along the
    way, I can alert local hams that I'm there, and they can come down to
    the depot to see me.
    That is a nice thing, too... :)

    I saw a Facebook Live video of a ham radio operator on the Southwest Chief, heading into Gallup, New Mexico.

    Was it someone you knew....?

    þ OLX 1.53 þ Dijon Vu: When you feel you've tasted this mustard
    before
    I have that one already, I'm sure... :)

    It was new to me.

    There's lots of variants on the Deja Vu.... ;)

    ... Limburger smells like a cross between skunk juice and hangover
    breath.

    And a few other things we don't like to talk about. :P

    Well, yeah... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Deja stew - seriously old leftovers.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Thu May 23 07:18:00 2019
    Nancy,

    I saw a Facebook Live video of a ham radio operator on the Southwest Chief, heading into Gallup, New Mexico.

    Was it someone you knew....?

    Sure was. His name is Elmer, and the ironic thing is, there is a term
    in ham radio, known as "Elmer"...for an individual who teaches,
    instructs, mentors, a fellow ham radio operator on how to do a certain
    mode in the hobby. It can be soldering, kit building, net control,
    traffic handling, administering exams, setting up a radio or computer
    program for a certain mode, or any other number of things.

    So, Elmer is an Elmer. <G>

    However, with the Elmering, once shown what to do, the individual is
    expected to be able to do the task at hand. The Elmer is NOT there to
    coddle and help them constantly, every step of the way. It's the same as
    "The unwritten rule of Sysoping" in setting up a BBS. Once shown how to
    do a particular configuration, you're expected to do it. Otherwise, it's
    the other Sysop's setup, and not yours.

    I heard of one ungrateful Sysop a few years ago, who had another Sysop
    set up his BBS for him, but then the Sysop, who did none of the work,
    took credit for doing it, without giving it to where credit was due. The
    Sysop who did the work got his revenge (a dish best served cold), in
    working with another Sysop. Apparently, he had been counseled to "give
    credit where credit was due" (as I'm a firm believer in such),
    apparently his pride and his ego wouldn't let him do it.

    So, while one Sysop was engaged in chat with this "thief Sysop", the
    other Sysop found the guys IP address, went inside his system, and
    basically wiped out his hard drive. As soon as the ungrateful Sysop
    exited chat, his computer crashed big time.

    ... Deja stew - seriously old leftovers.

    Well, there goes my appetite. :P

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Tue May 28 19:46:00 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-23-19 07:23 <=-

    I saw a Facebook Live video of a ham radio operator on the Southwest
    Chief, heading into Gallup, New Mexico.
    Was it someone you knew....?

    Sure was. His name is Elmer, and the ironic thing is, there is a
    term in ham radio, known as "Elmer"...for an individual who teaches, instructs, mentors, a fellow ham radio operator on how to do a certain mode in the hobby. It can be soldering, kit building, net control,
    traffic handling, administering exams, setting up a radio or computer program for a certain mode, or any other number of things.
    So, Elmer is an Elmer. <G>

    A name that works... ;) My Dad's last name was Elder, and he was an
    Elder in our church... so he was Elder Elder... What's more, he had
    two other (both younger than he) brothers who also were Elders in their churches, so he was the eldest Elder Elder.... :)

    However, with the Elmering, once shown what to do, the individual is expected to be able to do the task at hand. The Elmer is NOT there to coddle and help them constantly, every step of the way.

    Just to mentor, and get them started... :)

    It's the same as "The unwritten rule of Sysoping" in setting up a BBS. Once shown how to do a particular configuration, you're expected to do
    it. Otherwise, it's the other Sysop's setup, and not yours.
    I heard of one ungrateful Sysop a few years ago, who had another
    Sysop set up his BBS for him, but then the Sysop, who did none of the work, took credit for doing it, without giving it to where credit was
    due. The Sysop who did the work got his revenge (a dish best served
    cold), in working with another Sysop. Apparently, he had been counseled
    to "give credit where credit was due" (as I'm a firm believer in such), apparently his pride and his ego wouldn't let him do it.
    So, while one Sysop was engaged in chat with this "thief Sysop", the
    other Sysop found the guys IP address, went inside his system, and basically wiped out his hard drive. As soon as the ungrateful Sysop
    exited chat, his computer crashed big time.

    Sounds like the mentor Sysop had left some back doors open to get back
    into the computer itself.... Had the thief sysop done what he should
    have, to secure his own system, the other couldn't have crashed him, I'd think....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Thu May 30 18:07:00 2019
    Nancy,

    A name that works... ;) My Dad's last name was Elder, and he was an NB>Elder in our church... so he was Elder Elder... What's more, he had
    two other (both younger than he) brothers who also were Elders in their NB>churches, so he was the eldest Elder Elder.... :)

    Years ago, at a local church, I was responsible for getting the coffee
    and donuts for the Single Adult Sunday School Department, which had
    their "Sunday School" between the 2 morning church services. The Singles Minister at the time kept saying "My Brother Darrell and the Other
    Brother Daryl"...I had no idea what he was talking about.

    Then, one night, I stumbled on an episode of The Bob Newhart Show...

    "I'm Larry. This is my brother Darrell, and my other brother Daryl.
    And, we come bearing unfortunate news. We had a grease fire down at the restaurant".

    Another character (who looked like he had been on The Andy Griffith
    Show years ago), asked "A Fire??"...and the reply was "No human
    casualties. But, all of our major food groups were scorched"!!.

    I thought "Oh, no!!".

    But, one Sunday morning, I didn't make it there, as I was violently
    vomiting. I heard that I was cussed out for not being there. Other
    issues made me leave that church, but when I tried to return, they
    showed me the door. Christians are the only army that buries their
    wounded.

    Just to mentor, and get them started... :)

    Exactly. I think this old geezer finally got the hint, as I haven't
    gotten any further emails from him.

    Sounds like the mentor Sysop had left some back doors open to get back NB>into the computer itself.... Had the thief sysop done what he should NB>have, to secure his own system, the other couldn't have crashed him, I'd NB>think....

    Exactly. I'm one who believes giving credit to where credit is due.
    This "thief Sysop" was "too prideful" to admit that he had to have help,
    and made it look like he did it.

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Mon Jun 3 11:52:00 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-30-19 18:12 <=-

    Years ago, at a local church, I was responsible for getting the
    coffee and donuts for the Single Adult Sunday School Department, which
    had their "Sunday School" between the 2 morning church services. The Singles Minister at the time kept saying "My Brother Darrell and the
    Other Brother Daryl"...I had no idea what he was talking about.
    Then, one night, I stumbled on an episode of The Bob Newhart Show...
    "I'm Larry. This is my brother Darrell, and my other brother Daryl.
    And, we come bearing unfortunate news. We had a grease fire down at
    the restaurant".

    Ah...so that's where that came from.... ;)

    Another character (who looked like he had been on The Andy Griffith
    Show years ago), asked "A Fire??"...and the reply was "No human casualties. But, all of our major food groups were scorched"!!.
    I thought "Oh, no!!".

    A groaner, to be sure....

    But, one Sunday morning, I didn't make it there, as I was violently vomiting. I heard that I was cussed out for not being there. Other
    issues made me leave that church, but when I tried to return, they
    showed me the door. Christians are the only army that buries their wounded.

    That church doesn't sound all that Christian to me.... just because
    someone takes the name doesn't mean that they truly are.... and sadly
    there are many "churches" like that.... I'm sorry you were burnt by
    them....

    Sounds like the mentor Sysop had left some back doors open to get
    back into the computer itself.... Had the thief sysop done what he
    should have, to secure his own system, the other couldn't have
    crashed him, I'd think....

    Exactly. I'm one who believes giving credit to where credit is due.
    This "thief Sysop" was "too prideful" to admit that he had to have
    help, and made it look like he did it.

    I'm not sure that it totally justifies the mentor Sysop's actions,
    though.... Sounds like a bad situation all around....

    ttyl neb

    ... Good Intentions Paving Company - We did the road to Hell.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Tue Jun 4 11:35:00 2019
    Nancy,

    Then, one night, I stumbled on an episode of The Bob Newhart Show... "I'm Larry. This is my brother Darrell, and my other brother Daryl. And, we come bearing unfortunate news. We had a grease fire down at
    the restaurant".

    Ah...so that's where that came from.... ;)

    Yep. I don't know if it's on TV anymore, but you probably can see
    reruns on YouTube.

    Another character (who looked like he had been on The Andy Griffith Show years ago), asked "A Fire??"...and the reply was "No human casualties. But, all of our major food groups were scorched"!!.
    I thought "Oh, no!!".

    A groaner, to be sure....

    It's as bad as the Fire Marshal noting "something hot came into
    contact with something flammable, and that caused the fire in the church kitchen".

    WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST CLUE??!! <G>

    That church doesn't sound all that Christian to me.... just because NB>someone takes the name doesn't mean that they truly are.... and sadly NB>there are many "churches" like that.... I'm sorry you were burnt by NB>them....

    Well, with not resting well at night, and nevr knowing when an IBS
    attack will flare, it's best I not go.

    I'm not sure that it totally justifies the mentor Sysop's actions, NB>though.... Sounds like a bad situation all around....

    It was. All that could've been avoided, if he hadn't been so prideful.
    I'm one who will happily give credit to where credit is due.

    ... Good Intentions Paving Company - We did the road to Hell.

    Really.

    Daryl
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Sat Jun 8 13:57:00 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 06-04-19 11:40 <=-

    Then, one night, I stumbled on an episode of The Bob Newhart Show...
    "I'm Larry. This is my brother Darrell, and my other brother Daryl.
    And, we come bearing unfortunate news. We had a grease fire down at
    the restaurant".
    Ah...so that's where that came from.... ;)

    Yep. I don't know if it's on TV anymore, but you probably can see
    reruns on YouTube.

    Were I to be viewing things on YouTube, which I don't do either...

    It's as bad as the Fire Marshal noting "something hot came into
    contact with something flammable, and that caused the fire in the
    church kitchen".
    WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST CLUE??!! <G>

    Well, yeah, that usually is the action that starts combustion... :)

    I'm not sure that it totally justifies the mentor Sysop's actions,
    though.... Sounds like a bad situation all around....

    It was. All that could've been avoided, if he hadn't been so
    prideful. I'm one who will happily give credit to where credit is due.

    As well one should... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Absinthe Lite: a third fewer pathogens than regular absinthe.

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