• ER And Money 1/2

    From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Jan 8 15:20:00 2019
    Joe,

    They all rely too much on what the machine says. Math isn't really
    taught any longer. At least not in the old style we grew up with JM>add/subtract/multiply/divide. Simple stuff really. (Though my division JM>isn't that great). They use calculators for the least little thing. (I JM>have to admit I use it when balancing my cheque book). (Aside: I worked JM>with a guy one time who would have a long list of figures. He first ran JM>it through the adding machine then in his head. I once asked why and he JM>replied to make sure the machine was right. <g>)

    My late father could do so much in his head, and the way he entered
    figures with this "comptometer" was lightning fast. He was
    comptroller/office manager) for Swift And Company (a meat packing firm)...originally in Miami, Florida...then, in Little Rock, Arkansas.
    Both, and I think the brand name are long gone now.

    I do pretty good with my math tables...but I am reminded of things
    from Abbott and Costello:

    A) Do you have two tens for a five??

    B) 13x7=28 -- 3x7=21, and 1x7=7...so 21+7=28. They did it both with
    addition and multiplication...their version of "the new math".

    Or like Sally Brown, Charlie Brown's sister, who was taking a course
    in school called "Introduction To Math". When her brother asked her if
    it was difficult, she said "Not at all. I just walked in, and said 'How
    do you do, Math??'"!! <G>

    Charles Schulz was one of a kind...I'm glad he retired the strip,
    ironically on the day he died. There'll never be another comic strip
    like Peanuts.

    Back to math...likewise, I also use the smartphone calculator when
    balancing the checkbook...although most people think that means putting
    the checkbook in one hand, and a penny in the other. <G>

    That's good about the guy "wanting to make sure the machine was
    right". :)

    True in most places. And the block rate is generally what it would
    normally be anyway. Maybe a little less.

    It's like the stores advertising a sale, or on Senior Day. In the
    latter case, you think you're getting maybe a 5% discount, but you're
    really not. I have to wonder if they change the prices before the store
    opens, then change them again after closing time.

    Today, I went to Wal-Mart, because even though I have a Kroger Card:

    1) They sold a 4 pack of reading glasses, something Kroger doesn't sell
    ($12). I have to have those when reading the smartphone, forms, or
    working at the computer (and reading BBS mail). I was out of them, and
    the usual reason is that one of the arms breaks on it.

    2) Their flavored water was 40 cents a bottle cheaper than Kroger. That
    is my beverage of choice...favorite flavors include, strawberry, peach,
    black cherry, and white grape. Speaking of peach, Chick-Fil-A has a
    peach milk shake that is to die for...but it's only on sale during the
    summer. It reminds me of the old Nehi Peach Soda from years ago.

    3) Their Great Value (bread) was $1.50 cheaper than the lowest cost loaf
    at Kroger.

    4) The packets of lunch meat were slightly less each than Kroger (gluten
    free, and only 90 calories, so no leftovers).

    5) Their mustard was a brand name, but still under $2.

    Except for the lunch meat, and the reading glasses, I got everything
    else for under $1...for around $56 total. Plus, for the first time, I
    was able to complete their survey (I've never had trouble with doing the
    one for Kroger to get fuel points). Now, they can make the visit
    complete by giving me a $1000 gift card...so, I can properly fill up the refrigerator/freezer. <G>

    I've lost 50 pounds since August, basically eating only 1 meal a day,
    and it's rare I get to 500 calories a day. Now, that's way below the
    daily recommended (I think it's 2000 calories), but I just don't have
    the appetite anymore. The only time I eat breakfast is if I'm going to
    do a ham radio license exam in the morning. My big meal is lunch, then
    if I don't have snacks, I normally don't eat again...never mind being a
    bad Sysop going to bed without supper. :P

    Now, just as I typed that, my stomach is wanting a refill. So, it's
    back to the icebox for some more lunch meat sandwiches. It's quick and
    easy, as I don't like to wait for my food.

    At one time Diner's and AE where the only national credit cards,
    accepted "everywhere". Diners was geared more for restaurants and AE was JM>general (hotels, gas, food, clothing, etc). Many local/regional JM>department stores, etc had their own credit card good only with that JM>business. The only national card that comes to my mind was Sears. Then JM>of course you had smaller places where one charged and were sent a bill JM>each month, such as corner grocery stores, etc.

    Interesting. I remember Karl Malden advertising the American Express Travelers Cheques, and "Don't Leave Home Without Them". I don't think
    ANY travelers cheques exist now...you have to get a money order, either
    from your bank, the Post Office, or a Wal-Mart or Kroger Customer
    Service Center, or maybe from Western Union. But, while the telegraph
    doesn't exist anymore, ham radio operators still use Morse Code.

    The funniest example on that was where four ol' boys are sitting
    around a restaurant table in Annapolis, Maryland...telling each other
    dirty jokes in CW (Continuous Wave, another name for Morse Code). This
    drop dead gorgeous, curvaceous female, walked up to them, and admonished
    them "You boys better watch your language. I teach CW at the Naval
    Academy across the street!!", and walked out. They were as red as
    tomatoes!! <G>

    I don't know about Diner's but AE had no limit, and no interest, but
    it had to be paid in full each month. I don't recall how they made their JM>money. I never made enough to have one. One had to be above a certain JM>income level.

    That definitely would've left me out. In all my jobs over the
    years, I never got to $10 an hour.

    That is quite common with delivery people and other personal
    services (i.e, UBER, LYFT, etc). The catch there is the individual
    is charged tax on that tip. I never use that, I just slip them a
    few bucks.

    Or like the joke that around tax time, this hunter, instead of sending
    the IRS money...sends them deer. He figures "they could use a couple of
    bucks". <G> I don't care for deer meat...especially if you hit one with
    your vehicle...not the way to get venizen!! :P

    When I drove a cab my tips were never reported. If asked we drivers
    just said none were received, lying though out collective teeth. :)

    I can't blame you. When I worked for a Mexican Restaurant, called Casa Bonita, the tips were gathered up, and divided equally between the
    employees. So, one who busted their butt trying to give good service,
    got the same amount as one who dragged their butt. :P

    Originally, they had locations in Denver, Tulsa, Oklahoma City, and
    Little Rock. From what I understand, only the Denver location is left. I
    loved their sopapillas, but picked the few American dishes that they
    had. I can eat Mexican stuff, but ONLY if it's MILD.

    Pizza Hut here had that for the longest time, but discontinued it a
    couple of years ago. I miss those...

    I get them confused between Pizza Hut and Pizza Inn. Then, along came Dominoes, Little Caesar's, Papa John's, etc. I love pizza, pasta,
    etc., but the Italian food gives my acid reflux fits. If I go to The
    Olive Garden, I do it infrequently. The food is good (I love their breadsticks), but their prices are high, and the tomato sauce and spices
    give me severe acid reflux. I will admit that they play music from the
    big band and swing era, which is relaxing as you dine.

    I always hate when they come by when I have a mouth full of food and
    can't answer, just nod or point to whatever more was needed. :)

    At the Casa Bonita, there was a little "flag" at the table. If you
    needed something, you just raised the flag, and whichever employee was
    passing by, would stop, and ask what you needed. That saved them from
    asking if you needed anything.

    The mother starts screaming violently "NO!! NO!! WHY??!! WHY??!!" <G>

    The horror! The shame on the family...

    I had to go to the urologist today for a follow-up from an ER visit
    last Thursday. I apparently have a small bladder stone (that I should be
    able to pass), and a severe urinary tract infection. These are rather
    common in elderly folks, and especially as one grows older.

    I have to go in for an ultrasound Thursday morning. At least it's not
    an intraveneous pyelogram (IVP), where I'd have to clean out my colon
    first, as with a colonoscopy. In that case, they track the dye going
    through your urinary tract, and if your bowels aren't clear, they can't
    track the dye movement. The process is to see if your urinary tract has blockages that need to be removed.

    There was a female doctor "inspecting me" this morning, but they are
    there to save my butt...not kiss it. I may have said this before, but I
    know a friend who (to this day) will NOT go to the doctor, as "he
    doesn't want them to see him naked". I never could convince him that
    "Like it's something they haven't seen??!!". In the case of a woman
    having a child, you have to forget about all modesty when you head to
    the delivery room. That boy isn't coming out wearing a tuxedo...and that
    girl isn't coming out in a white satin dress!! :P

    For that matter, there was a show on Lifetime Health Network years
    ago, with Doctor Drew Pinsky (my late wife and I loved watching that
    show). Anyway, the question was asking first time mothers, what their
    Mom's, girl friends, etc. had in advice for them, on having their first
    child. In the teaser/trailer for the show, all you heard was the
    laughter, and seeing Dr. Pinsky's face as red as a tomato. Now, this was
    from a physician who actually delivered his own children!! :)

    Well, when we watched the show, the advice was "don't poop on the
    table" (basically, the same muscles are used for each). But, you don't
    want the newborn contaminated by that bacteria.

    Janice and I were laughing about it...even though we never had kids

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Jan 8 15:20:00 2019
    (Continued from previous message)

    ourselves. After having such a severe case of chicken pox when I was 20
    (which almost went into encephalitis)...then working around nasty
    solvents like methyl-ethyl-ketone (never mind "the MEK shall inherit the
    Earth" :P ) for almost 20 years (I likely absorbed a lot of it into my system)...as my late wife so eloquently put it, "they wouldn't spay me,
    so he volunteered to get neutered". <G>

    We joked that "we have a son...a dachshund". Now, while the male
    dachshunds "mark their territory" by peeing on everything, it is CHEAPER
    to neuter a male, than to spay a b!+ch (female dog). We also noted that
    "a male dog is truly an S.O.B. -- and he acts like one, too!!". <G> This
    is particularly true of dachshunds, who tend to be "stubborn"; which is especially true in regards to being housebroken. Basically, it's "their
    way, or the highway"...but, they are extremely loyal and loving to their owners.

    The way I see MOST kids today, in regards to how they treat their
    parents (with utter contempt...instead of respect, like we were taught
    growing up), I'm glad I never had any. I even address fellow ham radio operators older than me, such as Mister Roy, Mister John, Miss Lois,
    Miss Virginia, etc. When asked why, I reply "Respect. If I give it, I
    know I'll get it in return". :)

    I was talking to a gentleman about my age at Arkansas Urology this
    morning, and the topic got around to "old music" (big band and
    swing...now THAT'S Memories!"). I told him that years ago at work, I had
    a "big band" radio station on (those are few and far between), and one
    of the employees asked me "Are you trying to get old before your
    time??". I replied "You're d@mn right, I am"!!

    To me, that was MUSIC -- nowadays, so much of what is played is just
    talk laced with profanity (i.e. Rap). The ventriloquist years ago, who
    had "Shotgun Red" as his "dummy" noted "You know what I think about
    Rap?? Put a C in front of it"!! Indeed, my late wife said several times,
    on hearing what they consider today as "music"..."if that's music, we're doomed".

    Bill Cosby once had a line about that. He said even if his underwear
    was clean before the accident it wouldn't be afterward, or words to that JM>effect. :)

    The paramedics have seen it far worse...another day at work for them.

    Daryl

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Wed Jan 9 07:29:52 2019
    Daryl wrote --

    My late father could do so much in his head, and the way he entered
    figures with this "comptometer" was lightning fast.

    I have always admired people who can do things I can't.
    It's funny, I'm basically lousy at math (other than the simple stuff)
    and I was made one of two collection counters at church, dealing with
    piles of cheques and cash every Monday morning.
    I am always pleased with myself when it all balances out right. There
    is first the main balance, then that is broken down into various
    accounts, then all added again and both the first and second amounts have
    to come out even.
    There was one time recently it was done by three different people who
    came up with three different amounts. The fella I work with who has done
    it for years told of one time he and the other then counter, (now
    deceased) who was CPA, took four hours to get the figures to balance out.

    I do pretty good with my math tables...but I am reminded of things
    from Abbott and Costello:

    A) Do you have two tens for a five??

    I try that sometimes. Never works.
    I had a boss once who used to flip a coin saying "Heads I win, tails
    you lose".

    B) 13x7=28 -- 3x7=21, and 1x7=7...so 21+7=28. They did it both with
    addition and multiplication...their version of "the new math".

    I love that skit.
    Plus the one where Lou is supposed to be in love with a 10 year-old
    girl and he's 40 years-old and how long would they have to wait till they
    were the same age. :)
    They were great with word play, something I really enjoy.

    It's like the stores advertising a sale, or on Senior Day.

    I always find their senior day was the day before I went there.

    Today, I went to Wal-Mart, because even though I have a Kroger Card:

    1) They sold a 4 pack of reading glasses, something Kroger doesn't sell ($12).

    Try Dollar General. Their standard price is four for $10. That's were
    I get mine.

    3) Their Great Value (bread) was $1.50 cheaper than the lowest cost
    loaf at Kroger.

    I shop at Aldi's and that white bread is 89 cents a loaf. They have
    others with higher prices, several different types.

    Except for the lunch meat, and the reading glasses, I got everything
    else for under $1...for around $56 total.

    I go to Walmart about every three or four months and that's for things
    I can't get at Dollar or Aldi's.
    Dollar is for household stuff (soap, tp, etc) and Aldi's for food.
    Walmart is higher on everything than the other two.
    Plus, if its some sort of electronic related item, the one here never
    has anything in stock and has to be ordered. Its just easier for me to
    order then pick it up there.
    And I seldom get out the place without dropping $50 or more.

    I've lost 50 pounds since August,

    You're just wasting away... :)
    I've dropped about 15 pounds in the same time frame, though with the
    holidays I did find a couple I had lost.

    basically eating only 1 meal a day,

    Same here.

    Interesting. I remember Karl Malden advertising the American Express Travelers Cheques, and "Don't Leave Home Without Them". I don't think
    ANY travelers cheques exist now

    I did a quick check and while still around they are not as accepted as
    in the past. Merchants prefer credit/debit cards.

    I never made enough to have one. One had to be above a certain
    income level.

    That definitely would've left me out. In all my jobs over the
    years, I never got to $10 an hour.

    You and me both. I'm very close to $10 an hour. To go over that is overtime/holiday pay.

    I don't care for deer meat...especially if you hit one with
    your vehicle

    One day the chief had returned from a business trip and had hit a deer
    in a state car. One of the cops told him hunting deer with a car not acceptable. :)

    the tips were gathered up, and divided equally between the
    employees. So, one who busted their butt trying to give good service,
    got the same amount as one who dragged their butt. :P

    I concur.
    Its not fair to the hard workers.

    the Italian food gives my acid reflux fits.

    I get that often as well.
    I found if I can get out a good, deep down belch, that clears it out.
    Also a good slug of milk will neutralize the acid, due to the calcium.
    And I sometimes use the tried and true baking soda and water (bi-carb).
    A teaspoon of baking soda in a glass of water, drink it all at once and
    that will give you a good belch. Tastes nasty though at the time.
    Like the old line of someone complaining about the taste of medicine
    and being told if it didn't taste bad it must not be good for you.

    Anyway, the question was asking first time mothers

    My father was an old time GP and delivered many babies, mostly at home.
    When I was just a little kid I would be taken to some farmers home way
    out in the middle of nowhere.
    I had one of two jobs. If other kids there I was get them outside
    (show me your farm, where do you play?, etc) so they were not underfoot.
    If no others besides my father and the couple (the husband helped) he
    would bring this new born for me to hold and be told to watch it, if it
    turns blue holler!
    I never saw a blue baby.
    Joe

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Wed Jan 9 07:39:52 2019
    Daryl wrote --

    The way I see MOST kids today, in regards to how they treat their
    parents (with utter contempt...instead of respect, like we were taught growing up),

    Yep.

    I even address fellow ham radio operators older than me, such as Mister
    Roy, Mister John, Miss Lois, Miss Virginia, etc. When asked why, I reply "Respect. If I give it, I know I'll get it in return". :)

    I often refer to older people and those in authority as Mr or Miss.
    Being a Southern boy I had no problem when MS came along since its
    pronounced MIZ which is just a natural slurring of Miss (Miz Lois, Miz
    Betty, etc).
    I had a black supervisor when I temped in housing whom I called Mr Pete
    quite often. And we were the same age, give or take a couple of years.
    And sometimes professionals are called by their first name with Mr/Miss
    such as Dr Pete, who was my dentist for years.

    To me, that was MUSIC -- nowadays, so much of what is played is just
    talk laced with profanity (i.e. Rap).

    Don't get me started on that "music"! :)
    I always smile when some social justice warrior (SJW) will start in on
    names for females some crude men use and yet the words of rap are full of
    women calling H's, B's, etc and that is never addressed.
    Joe
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Jan 9 19:27:00 2019
    Joe,

    I have always admired people who can do things I can't.

    You could open up a whole can of worms with that one. <G>

    It's funny, I'm basically lousy at math (other than the simple stuff)
    and I was made one of two collection counters at church, dealing with JM>piles of cheques and cash every Monday morning.

    I was made head cashier at Burger King, as it was rare that "I had a
    cash shortage".

    I am always pleased with myself when it all balances out right. There
    is first the main balance, then that is broken down into various JM>accounts, then all added again and both the first and second amounts have JM>to come out even.

    That's the way it's supposed to work.

    There was one time recently it was done by three different people who
    came up with three different amounts. The fella I work with who has done JM>it for years told of one time he and the other then counter, (now JM>deceased) who was CPA, took four hours to get the figures to balance out.

    I remember on Hee-Haw many years ago, the late Don Herron as "Charlie K.O.R.N. Farkeson" told on a "newcast", with "all the news that's fit to
    be read aloud...plus, the news that ain't fit to be read aloud". <G>

    He mentioned a guys name, and noted he was "A CPA -- which stands for Certified Public Accountant, or Constant Pain In The You Know Where".
    I'm surprised the censors let that one through...but I can't help but
    think of the stink when the late Clark Gable threatened to walk out on
    the movie "Gone With The Wind" 80 years ago, when the Motion Picture Association Of America initially wouldn't let him say his famous line
    "Frankly, my dear...I don't give a damn". My, how things have changed.

    I do pretty good with my math tables...but I am reminded of things
    from Abbott and Costello:

    A) Do you have two tens for a five??

    I try that sometimes. Never works.

    That's only with the New Math and Common Core. :P

    I had a boss once who used to flip a coin saying "Heads I win, tails
    you lose".

    Never mind a two headed coin. :P

    B) 13x7=28 -- 3x7=21, and 1x7=7...so 21+7=28. They did it both with
    addition and multiplication...their version of "the new math".

    I love that skit.
    Plus the one where Lou is supposed to be in love with a 10 year-old
    girl and he's 40 years-old and how long would they have to wait till they JM>were the same age. :)

    LOL!!

    They were great with word play, something I really enjoy.

    That's how "Who's On First?" became such a classic.

    I always find their senior day was the day before I went there.

    Never mind "a day late, and a dollar short".

    1) They sold a 4 pack of reading glasses, something Kroger doesn't sell JM>> ($12).

    Try Dollar General. Their standard price is four for $10. That's were
    I get mine.

    I'll have to remember that next time. But, I wanted to get everything
    in one place, instead of driving all over town. That's like driving all
    over the place to get the best value on gasoline.

    3) Their Great Value (bread) was $1.50 cheaper than the lowest cost JM>loaf at Kroger.

    I shop at Aldi's and that white bread is 89 cents a loaf. They have
    others with higher prices, several different types.

    We don't have one of those here...but the loaf was 88 cents. As long
    as it's good (not spoiled), food is food. My late wife didn't care
    whether we ate at The Olive Garden or McDonald's...for the same
    reason...food is food.

    The first woman I was engaged to (which I broke off before Christmas
    one year), ALWAYS wanted me to take her to the most expensive place,
    ALWAYS wanted me to pick up the tab, and FORSAKE everything (hobbies,
    etc.) outside of work, and spend every waking moment with her.
    Basically, she was to do all the TAKING, and I was to do all the GIVING.
    That relationship is doomed to fail, IMO.

    And I seldom get out the place without dropping $50 or more.

    That's like trying to get a hotel room for under $100 a night anymore.

    I've lost 50 pounds since August,

    You're just wasting away... :)

    I still have plenty of excess to go around...because I'm in
    shape...round's a shape. And, I'm not in the best of shape, but for the
    shape I'm in, I'm in great shape. <G> The next thing to fall is the
    pants, if I don't get this belt tightened. :P But, if I need surgery
    this year, it'll be better for me. My BMI is still classed as "obese".

    I've dropped about 15 pounds in the same time frame, though with the
    holidays I did find a couple I had lost.

    The holidays are the worst time of year to diet. Basically, DIET is an acronym for "Did I Eat That??!!". <G> Or the one where one was told they
    have to get rid of all the food that's fattening...so they ate it. :P

    I did a quick check and while still around they are not as accepted as
    in the past. Merchants prefer credit/debit cards.

    I think Amtrak takes travelers cheques, but it's only for group
    travel. I'd have to check their website to be sure. Right now, I don't
    plan to do any other traveling outside of central Arkansas.

    You and me both. I'm very close to $10 an hour. To go over that is
    overtime/holiday pay.

    Then, it's pure gravy.

    One day the chief had returned from a business trip and had hit a deer
    in a state car. One of the cops told him hunting deer with a car not JM>acceptable. :)

    He probably wanted to see his hunting license. <G>

    I found if I can get out a good, deep down belch, that clears it out.

    Growing up, my brother and I would buy a Doctor Pepper bottle (I think
    they were 12 ounces, but I'm not sure), swig the whole thing in one
    shot, then see who could let out the most horriffic belch. :P

    Also a good slug of milk will neutralize the acid, due to the calcium.

    For me, drinking Coca-Cola or Ginger Ale, will do likewise.

    Like the old line of someone complaining about the taste of medicine
    and being told if it didn't taste bad it must not be good for you.

    That goes for all food...if it tastes good, it must not be good for
    you.

    If no others besides my father and the couple (the husband helped) he
    would bring this new born for me to hold and be told to watch it, if it JM>turns blue holler!

    I remember the story where the Mother was going into labor at home,
    and her husband was at work. She had taught her young daughter to call
    911, and the paramedics got there in time to deliver a healthy baby boy.
    After they spanked him on the butt to get him breathing (I guess that's
    what that's done for), they asked his "sister" what she thought of the
    whole deal. She replied "He never should've crawled up in there in the
    first place!! Spank him again"!! <BG>

    I never saw a blue baby.

    There are plenty of those in the Smurf Hospital...where the theme song
    is "Blue Moon". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Jan 9 18:58:00 2019
    Joe,

    I often refer to older people and those in authority as Mr or Miss.
    Being a Southern boy I had no problem when MS came along since its JM>pronounced MIZ which is just a natural slurring of Miss (Miz Lois, Miz JM>Betty, etc).

    MS seems derogatory. To me, a woman is married (Mrs.), or she is not
    (Miss).

    And sometimes professionals are called by their first name with Mr/Miss
    such as Dr Pete, who was my dentist for years.

    With the ham radio operators, we're on a first name basis. But, our
    first name is our first name...and our last name is our ham radio
    callsign. Most of us have no idea what the hams surname actually is (no,
    it's not "radio". <G>).

    Don't get me started on that "music"! :)

    M)ost U)nreasonable S)tupid I)nsane C)reation. <G>

    I always smile when some social justice warrior (SJW) will start in on
    names for females some crude men use and yet the words of rap are full of JM>women calling H's, B's, etc and that is never addressed.

    Stupid double standard. To me, "rap" is for people "who never learned
    how to sing"...all they seem to do is talk and cuss over background music...such as it is.

    Now, I could listen to big band and swing...the classical country
    music (think of the song from the late George Jones "Who's Gonna Fill
    Their Shoes??" with all those stars dead and gone)...and classical music
    (i.e. piano concertos) all day.

    Daryl

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Thu Jan 10 07:09:06 2019
    Daryl wrote --

    I have always admired people who can do things I can't.

    You could open up a whole can of worms with that one. <G>

    Wouldn't be the first time I had done something like that.

    I was made head cashier at Burger King, as it was rare that "I had a
    cash shortage".

    When I was working full time I went to BK a few times a year since it
    was close to campus.
    On the back of the receipt was a number (later a web site) to take a
    short survey and in return a code for a free Whooper with the purchase a
    fry and drink.
    I would take that on my next visit (only went when I had that deal)
    and 85 per cent of the time the cashier (which always seemed like a
    different person) couldn't handle it since there was no button the
    machine for that and had to call the manager. Apparently I was the only
    one to use that deal.
    One manager got to know me (and my coupons) and would get a look on
    her face that seemed to say "Here comes coupon boy again". I always got
    a chuckle out of that look. :)

    I'm surprised the censors let that one through...but I can't help but
    think of the stink when the late Clark Gable threatened to walk out on
    the movie "Gone With The Wind" 80 years ago, when the Motion Picture Association Of America initially wouldn't let him say his famous line "Frankly, my dear...I don't give a damn". My, how things have changed.

    The Hayes Code was formed in the early '20s and was supposed to have
    movies clean up their act. But it wasn't really enforced. There was
    still nudity once in a while (male and female) either flashes or long
    periods and swearing (if one read lips), brutal murders, and getting away
    with murder, adultery, all sorts of things.
    With early talkies it wasn't unusual in some films to depict "ladies of
    easy virtue" plying their trade on screen, for example. (Barbara
    Stanwyck openly slept her way to the top in Baby Doll c. 1931).
    Will Hayes was replaced with Joe Breen who toughened things up and a
    big crack down. So from about 1934-1939 movies were fit all ages. If
    someone were shot, for example, one didn't see them shot, but the gun
    fired then cut to the other person falling down and things like that.
    Also blood was seldom seen, some guy in a white suit is machine gunned
    down and afterward his his white suit is still pristine.
    So when Rhett said that to Scarlet it was a shock since nothing like
    that had happened in several years and people forget. (Remember, no
    reruns then. Once a movie was played out it was put on a shelf and often forgotten. Once in a great while a film might be re-released, but rarely
    and if a pre-code movie all the offending bits were cut out.
    The code was in force until the mid-50s when it was relaxed a bit and
    in the '60s abandoned and replaced with ratings. And even those are
    loose since something that would be a R rated film one year would be a
    PG13 type the next.
    You Tube has many pre-code movies for free.
    And with the code also had ratings from the Legion of Decency. Can't
    recall what they were called be similar to R, PG13, PG and G. I know
    those Condemned were rated C. These would be issued on a regular basis
    and reasoning for the rating (violence, sex, etc).
    And there were some "educational" movies that were not rated or shown
    in theatres, or very, very rarely. These were along the lines of what
    would be "training films" in the military in the "don't let this happen
    to you" vein.

    They were great with word play, something I really enjoy.

    That's how "Who's On First?" became such a classic.

    The basic part of that was stolen from Shelton and Howard*, a
    vaudeville team. They had pretty much the first half in their act, A&C
    changed a line or two, added a few, etc.
    Stealing an act in vaudeville was somewhat common. Sometimes the
    writer or first to use it sued but usually lost.
    (*They went on to being on the It Pays to be Ignorant radio show).

    Try Dollar General.

    I'll have to remember that next time. But, I wanted to get everything
    in one place, instead of driving all over town.

    I usually go to one area of town that has a Dollar General on one side
    of the the street and on the other is a shopping centre that has a Family Dollar as well as a Sav-a-lot. Used to have a Big Lots till they moved.
    I knew who had the best prices on certain items and went to it for
    those. General is most often cheaper than Family. They had been in the shopping centre until they built a new, larger place across the street.
    I get off the bus, hit one then the other and back to the corner for
    the ride home, when I don't ride my bike.

    as it's good (not spoiled), food is food.

    Same here.
    I am as happy having a bowl of corn flakes as some expensive food.

    The first woman I was engaged to (which I broke off before Christmas
    one year), ALWAYS wanted me to take her to the most expensive place,

    Good thing you found that out sooner rather than later...

    That's like trying to get a hotel room for under $100 a night anymore.

    When I travel I like to take the old road and stayed at mom and pop
    places. They were cheaper and the service excellent.
    I imagine those are long gone with chains replacing them.
    All I want when I travel is a clean bed and shower. I'm not interested
    in swimming pools, fancy dining, a tv with a gazillion channels (or a tv
    at all), etc. I am rather partial to wifi now. :)

    The holidays are the worst time of year to diet. Basically, DIET is
    an acronym for "Did I Eat That??!!". <G>

    LOL Gotta remember that.

    Or the one where one was told they have to get rid of all the food
    that's fattening...so they ate it. :P

    Sounds like me. Don't waste it, there are starving children somewhere...

    You and me both. I'm very close to $10 an hour. To go over that
    is overtime/holiday pay.

    Then, it's pure gravy.

    I get enough from SS for my basic's and extra needs and what I make now
    is all gravy and the vast majority is banked.
    I live simply and don't have many wants or needs, other than food,
    shelter, etc. My expenses are low as well.
    I have been doing better since retirement than I ever did when working
    full time, except for a few rare times.

    After they spanked him on the butt to get him breathing (I guess that's
    what that's done for)

    Basically, yes.

    There are plenty of those in the Smurf Hospital

    There is a teaching doctor at the building where I warm a chair on
    weekends, associated with the med school, who is East Indian with a beard
    we call "Papa Smurf". He's brown rather than blue, but looks just like
    him. :)
    Joe
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Thu Jan 10 07:15:46 2019
    Daryl wrote --

    With the ham radio operators, we're on a first name basis. But, our
    first name is our first name...and our last name is our ham radio
    callsign. Most of us have no idea what the hams surname actually is (no,
    it's not "radio". <G>).

    In security, like the military, last names are often used instead of
    first names.
    Here in WV others are often called by their first and last name.
    If referring to you it would be Daryl Stout, if there are others named
    Daryl. That way people know whom we are talking about without asking
    "Which one?"
    At work I am referred to simply as Mackey. Though I prefer Lt Mackey
    at times. :)
    I tell new people "you can call me Mackey, Lt Mackey or Hey You!" :)
    Joe

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Jan 10 13:59:00 2019
    Joe,

    You could open up a whole can of worms with that one. <G>

    Wouldn't be the first time I had done something like that.

    Well, we know what you're an expert in, then. <g,d,r>

    On the back of the receipt was a number (later a web site) to take a
    short survey and in return a code for a free Whooper with the purchase a JM>fry and drink.

    They still have that...but limit it to one per month.

    I would take that on my next visit (only went when I had that deal)
    and 85 per cent of the time the cashier (which always seemed like a JM>different person) couldn't handle it since there was no button the JM>machine for that and had to call the manager. Apparently I was the only JM>one to use that deal.

    That's like the one where at this store, bread was on sale for 3
    loaves for $1. Yet, years ago, my Mom and Dad went in there, and he only
    wanted 1 loaf...not 3. Neither the cashier or the manager could figure
    out that they could charge either 33 or 34 cents for the 1 loaf. My Dad
    was livid!! <G>

    One manager got to know me (and my coupons) and would get a look on
    her face that seemed to say "Here comes coupon boy again". I always got JM>a chuckle out of that look. :)

    I remember as cashier there were several regular customers. The one
    that really got me was one who wanted a Whopper Junior With Cheese, with
    just ketchup only. I told him "I'll sell you a cheeseburger with ketchup
    only. It's the same thing, but cheaper". Nope...he wanted the Whopper
    Junior With Cheese, just ketchup only. Okee dokee, then. :P

    The Hayes Code was formed in the early '20s and was supposed to have
    movies clean up their act. But it wasn't really enforced. There was JM>still nudity once in a while (male and female) either flashes or long JM>periods and swearing (if one read lips), brutal murders, and getting away JM>with murder, adultery, all sorts of things.

    The one I remember was a Looney Tunes cartoon, which was a takeoff on
    Abbott and Costello. It was "A Tale Of Two Kitties"...Babbit and
    Catstello. <G> And, like in real life, Catstello was the fat one. :P

    He had to climb the telephone pole to get Tweety Pie (the bird). Well,
    he's terrified of heights, and is shaking like a tree in a hurricane.
    Babbit yells at him "Give Me The Bird!! Give Me The Bird!!".

    To which, Catstello replies "If the Hayes Office would only let me,
    I'd give him the bird, all right" <WHISTLE!> <G>.

    With early talkies it wasn't unusual in some films to depict "ladies of
    easy virtue" plying their trade on screen, for example. (Barbara JM>Stanwyck openly slept her way to the top in Baby Doll c. 1931).

    I remember them talking about that when in theatre arts in both high
    school and college..."sleep your way to the top".

    Will Hayes was replaced with Joe Breen who toughened things up and a
    big crack down. So from about 1934-1939 movies were fit all ages. If JM>someone were shot, for example, one didn't see them shot, but the gun JM>fired then cut to the other person falling down and things like that. JM>Also blood was seldom seen, some guy in a white suit is machine gunned JM>down and afterward his his white suit is still pristine.

    They have to do a lot of special effects for that, or they have the
    stunt people take the hits, as it were. One of the episodes of "The
    Beverly Hillbillies" had Jed and Granny talking about an actor, and they
    were told by the real estate agent that "such and such actor was dead".
    Jed (the late Buddy Ebson), and Granny (the late Irene Ryan),
    paused...and then Jed said to Granny "That's right...He got shot up in
    that western we saw last week"!! <G>.

    So when Rhett said that to Scarlet it was a shock since nothing like
    that had happened in several years and people forget. (Remember, no JM>reruns then. Once a movie was played out it was put on a shelf and often JM>forgotten. Once in a great while a film might be re-released, but rarely JM>and if a pre-code movie all the offending bits were cut out.

    Nowadays, the sequels are worse than the originals. So much for "quit
    while you're ahead".

    The code was in force until the mid-50s when it was relaxed a bit and
    in the '60s abandoned and replaced with ratings. And even those are JM>loose since something that would be a R rated film one year would be a JM>PG13 type the next.

    They were originally G, PG, R, and X. I want to say there was a GP
    rating, but I'm not sure. They added PG-13 (parents send their children
    in blind confidence), and changed X (for pornography (hard core).
    Sometimes it was XXX -- I don't recall a XX rating) to NC-17.

    You Tube has many pre-code movies for free.
    And with the code also had ratings from the Legion of Decency. Can't
    recall what they were called be similar to R, PG13, PG and G. I know JM>those Condemned were rated C. These would be issued on a regular basis JM>and reasoning for the rating (violence, sex, etc).

    Condemned?? That's a new one on me. I've noted a lot of the foreign
    films are unrated, but they are clearly R or NC-17.

    That reminds me of the time a user on a BBS "wanted access to the
    adult files, for a sex education project". The Sysops response?? Nice
    try. <G>

    And there were some "educational" movies that were not rated or shown
    in theatres, or very, very rarely. These were along the lines of what JM>would be "training films" in the military in the "don't let this happen JM>to you" vein.

    I remember that some of the old songs weren't played on radio, as they thought they were too suggestive (even though there no profanity)...but,
    they let the men in the military here them!! The same applied to several
    of the classic Tex Avery cartoons, such as "Little Rural Riding Hood",
    and "Red Hot Riding Hood". Those were seen as a "morale booster" (and
    probably something else <G>) for the troops.

    Stealing an act in vaudeville was somewhat common. Sometimes the
    writer or first to use it sued but usually lost.

    Reminds me of a big square dance weekend in central Arkansas several
    years ago. When this national caller did this one figure, one of the
    local callers and cuers (he did both square and round dancing), broke
    out his little notepad, and started writing notes. When a dancer asked
    him if he was "stealing material", he was told "No. This is called
    gathering research". <G> Everyone within earshot roared in laughter.

    (*They went on to being on the It Pays to be Ignorant radio show).

    So many in the world today would get rich, if that category actually
    paid them. No wonder the politicians in Washington, DC are rich. :P

    I usually go to one area of town that has a Dollar General on one side
    of the the street and on the other is a shopping centre that has a Family JM>Dollar as well as a Sav-a-lot. Used to have a Big Lots till they moved.

    There is still one at one of the major intersections in southwest
    Little Rock (the busiest intersection in the state). I've never been in
    there, though.

    I knew who had the best prices on certain items and went to it for
    those. General is most often cheaper than Family. They had been in the JM>shopping centre until they built a new, larger place across the street.
    I get off the bus, hit one then the other and back to the corner for
    the ride home, when I don't ride my bike.

    Let public transportation worry about the traffic, etc.

    I am as happy having a bowl of corn flakes as some expensive food.

    I went to the store today, looking for "snacks". Unfortunately, they
    didn't have any chips that "tickled my fancy, let alone my palatte".
    Then, I found the boxes of Neopolitan and Banana Split Ice Cream
    Sandwiches for $2 each. That does for a snack, and satisfies the sweet
    tooth.

    I miss the Lay's Sausage Gravy Biscuit potato chips...they were just
    part of a promotion, and I haven't seen them since.

    Good thing you found that out sooner rather than later...

    Especially considering the cost for a divorce...especially when kids
    are involved.

    When I travel I like to take the old road and stayed at mom and pop
    places. They were cheaper and the service excellent.
    I imagine those are long gone with chains replacing them.

    You're likely right. For awhile when Motel 6 first came on the scene,
    I couldn't get the jingle of Tom Bodett with the 505-891-6161 phone
    number out of my head. :P But, I'd hope that the costlier it is, you
    wouldn't have to worry about bedbugs.

    All I want when I travel is a clean bed and shower. I'm not interested
    in swimming pools, fancy dining, a tv with a gazillion channels (or a tv JM>at all), etc. I am rather partial to wifi now. :)

    And, let's not forget a restaurant or convenience store nearby to get something to eat, or replenish the snacks and drinks.

    The holidays are the worst time of year to diet. Basically, DIET is JM>an acronym for "Did I Eat That??!!". <G>

    LOL Gotta remember that.

    It's free. :)

    Or the one where one was told they have to get rid of all the food JM>that's fattening...so they ate it. :P

    Sounds like me. Don't waste it, there are starving children somewhere...

    It's amazing how much food we, as Americans, waste. Now, one thing I
    can't eat anymore is corn...my colon won't tolerate it. So, I'm not
    going to buy a dinner where I'm going to have to throw out 2/3 of it.

    I get enough from SS for my basic's and extra needs and what I make now
    is all gravy and the vast majority is banked.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Jan 10 13:59:00 2019
    (Continued from previous message)


    I wish I could say the same...but, I've gotten rid of a lot of
    expenses that my Mom had.

    I live simply and don't have many wants or needs, other than food,
    shelter, etc. My expenses are low as well.

    I try to keep them that way...even if I just eat 2 sandwiches twice a
    day. Yet, that's still only half of the recommended diet allowance. I
    just don't have the appetite anymore.

    I have been doing better since retirement than I ever did when working
    full time, except for a few rare times.

    Thank goodness the electric and gas bills have "levelized billing". Unfortunately, the water and sanitation (garbage) bill doesn't offer
    that.

    There is a teaching doctor at the building where I warm a chair on
    weekends, associated with the med school, who is East Indian with a beard JM>we call "Papa Smurf". He's brown rather than blue, but looks just like JM>him. :)

    I only caught a glimpse of that cartoon...I prefer the classic Looney
    Tunes. Yet, we were smart enough, in viewing the foibles of Wile E.
    Coyote and his ACME products, to "DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!!". :P

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Jan 10 13:49:00 2019
    Joe,

    If referring to you it would be Daryl Stout, if there are others named
    Daryl. That way people know whom we are talking about without asking JM>"Which one?"

    I know of 3 other ham radio operators with the same name. One spells
    it Darrell...another spells it Deryl...and another spells it the way I
    do. When you get more than one ham on the net with the same first name,
    it can get confusing. <G>

    I tell new people "you can call me Mackey, Lt Mackey or Hey You!" :)

    Fleet Admiral would be better. ;)

    Daryl

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Fri Jan 11 06:52:22 2019
    Daryl wrote --

    On the back of the receipt was a number (later a web site) to
    take a short survey and in return a code for a free Whooper with the
    purchase a fry and drink.

    They still have that...but limit it to one per month.

    I seldom use that offer now.
    I try not to eat a lot of fast food.
    I like the two-fer coupons I get every now and then from various places
    but so often they expire before I use them.

    It's the same thing, but cheaper". Nope...he wanted the Whopper
    Junior With Cheese, just ketchup only. Okee dokee, then. :P

    Reminds me of the late '70s and I was driving a cab.
    Once in a great while I'd get a call from the airport and I would ask
    the fare if they wanted the fastest way or the scenic route.
    They always wanted the fastest.
    While it was faster, using the freeway, it was actually the longest way whereas the scenic way used an old road and was a tad shorter.
    Hey, I asked. I wasn't cheating 'em. :)

    Once in a great while a film might be re-released, but rarely
    and if a pre-code movie all the offending bits were cut out.

    Nowadays, the sequels are worse than the originals. So much for "quit
    while you're ahead".

    A re-release was not a sequel but more of a re-run.
    But I agree with that sequels are usually lousy.

    those Condemned were rated C. These would be issued on a regular
    basis and reasoning for the rating (violence, sex, etc).

    Condemned?? That's a new one on me. I've noted a lot of the foreign
    films are unrated, but they are clearly R or NC-17.

    Here is the official rating from https://archive.org/stream/motionpicturescl00nati/motionpicturescl00nati_djvu.t xt

    A-I ÿ Morally Unobjectionable for General Patronage.
    A-II ÿ Morally Unobjectionable for Adults and Adolescents.
    A-III ÿ Morally Unobjectionable for Adults.
    B ÿ Morally Objectionable in Part for All.
    C ÿ Condemned

    Some of the guidelines were objections in suggestive costuming, dancing
    and situations; low moral tone, creating sympathy for wrongdoing, divorce/adultery, etc that is unpunished, the bad guy winning, etc.

    I remember that some of the old songs weren't played on radio, as
    they thought they were too suggestive (even though there no
    profanity)...but, they let the men in the military here them!!

    Command Performance was a radio show for GI's in WWII. Various stars
    of stage, screen and radio did something on the half hour variety show:
    sang, did some playette, etc. One time Fred Astaire danced.
    One of the many times A&C were on they did Who's on First but changed
    the name of Darn-it to something a bit stronger.
    They didn't use any profanity in their act, or radio or stage, but
    Costello was known to have a potty mouth when the camera or microphone
    wasn't on, esp, if he fluffed a line.
    One actress who tested the boundary in a comic way was the great Verna Feldon. She would enter a scene and instead of saying merely "Hello" it
    was drawn out to "Hheeellll-low".

    Sounds like me. Don't waste it, there are starving children
    somewhere...

    It's amazing how much food we, as Americans, waste.

    It surely is.
    I was always told to eat everything on my plate.
    In the Navy were signs on the mess deck reading "Take all you can eat,
    eat all that you take".
    Joe
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Fri Jan 11 11:20:00 2019
    Joe,

    I seldom use that offer now.
    I try not to eat a lot of fast food.

    Fast food was a double meaning for me when I worked at Burger King. A
    15 minute break on the clock turned into a 5 minute break, when a bus
    pulled up. So, I had to eat the food fast...as I was head cashier.
    That's probably why I have digestive tract issues today.

    I like the two-fer coupons I get every now and then from various places
    but so often they expire before I use them.

    Yeah, I forget when they expire...but lately, funds have been tighter
    than a frog's butt under water. :P

    Hey, I asked. I wasn't cheating 'em. :)

    As Gildersleeve noted "Oooo!! Aren't we sneaky??!!" <G>.

    A re-release was not a sequel but more of a re-run.
    But I agree with that sequels are usually lousy.

    That's as bad as the skit that the late Red Skelton had. "I had
    oysters on the half shell twice in one meal. Once going down...", then
    he paused, and grimaced...and everyone knew what he meant. In this case,
    the rerun was sickening...pun intended.

    Never mind belching, and saying "bring it up again, and we'll vote on
    it". :P

    Here is the official rating from
    https://archive.org/stream/motionpicturescl00nati/motionpicturescl00nati_djv

    A-I ÿ Morally Unobjectionable for General Patronage.
    A-II ÿ Morally Unobjectionable for Adults and Adolescents.
    A-III ÿ Morally Unobjectionable for Adults.
    B ÿ Morally Objectionable in Part for All.
    C ÿ Condemned

    The professor just caused us to learn something new. <G>

    Some of the guidelines were objections in suggestive costuming, dancing
    and situations; low moral tone, creating sympathy for wrongdoing, JM>divorce/adultery, etc that is unpunished, the bad guy winning, etc.

    I think of the tagline "Do infants enjoy infancy, as much as adults
    enjoy adultery??". <G>

    Command Performance was a radio show for GI's in WWII. Various stars
    of stage, screen and radio did something on the half hour variety show: JM>sang, did some playette, etc. One time Fred Astaire danced.

    One of the many times A&C were on they did Who's on First but changed
    the name of Darn-it to something a bit stronger.

    That's the shortstop!! <G> Curiosly, they never did name the player in
    Right Field.

    They didn't use any profanity in their act, or radio or stage, but
    Costello was known to have a potty mouth when the camera or microphone JM>wasn't on, esp, if he fluffed a line.

    Interesting.

    One actress who tested the boundary in a comic way was the great Verna
    Feldon. She would enter a scene and instead of saying merely "Hello" it JM>was drawn out to "Hheeellll-low".

    LOL.

    In the Navy were signs on the mess deck reading "Take all you can eat,
    eat all that you take".

    I've seen similar signs at food buffets. My brother and a high school classmate were banned from one restaurant for "destroying the ribs, etc.
    on the buffet". :P

    Daryl

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  • From Zoohouse@1:135/369 to Daryl Stout on Wed Oct 16 13:04:34 2019
    firm)...originally in Miami, Florida...then, in Little Rock, Arkansas.

    Speaking of Miami, Florida and math, Daryl, I don't know if you ever visited ROBERT IS HERE fruit stand in Florida City/Redlands. Till this day they add
    up your purchases by hand.

    Just wanted to add that to the conversation. <G>

    -Zoo

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to ZOOHOUSE on Thu Oct 17 06:59:24 2019
    Zoo wrote --

    Just wanted to add that to the conversation. <G>

    Good to have you pop up.
    Don't recognise ya and welcome to Memories.
    Don't be shy, just write as you are moved. We're a friendly bunch here.
    Joe Mackey
    Moderator
    Huntington, WV

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  • From Zoohouse@1:135/369 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Oct 17 19:52:23 2019
    Don't be shy, just write as you are moved. We're a friendly bunch

    Thank you! I will be sure to do so.

    -Zoo

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