• Re: Wakes (was: Daryl upd

    From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Aug 22 10:45:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Mike Powell on 08-17-19 08:13 <=-

    Back a generation or two in my family I think that was more common that being at a funeral home.

    When people lived on farms mostly the loved ones were also buried on
    the property.
    My old family home there were many buried near the house.
    When the old homestead was sold many years ago the new owners, who
    could care less, took the tombstones and broke them up to use as gravel
    in a drive way!
    There is now no idea who is buried where there. :(

    Too bad there hadn't been a census taken of the graveyard previously,
    and kept at some local history library.... at least the knowledge would
    have been preserved to some extent...

    It one lived in/near a town there would be a common burial area,
    either at a church or some plot near town.
    It wasn't until the early 19th C our idea of a funeral home/cemetery
    came into being.

    The funeral home, probably.... but the local family and town cemetaries
    were happening long before that... I've seen stones with dates in the
    1600s and 1700s.... If you are talking about the large city cemeteries,
    then that could be true, though....

    Each culture has their own ways of dealing with death and the death.
    And in times of epidemics mass graves were common.

    Very true...

    IIRC, some families had a tradition of someone
    actually sitting with the body at all times, even at night.

    That's an ancient tradition, many centuries old. This is two-fold.
    One out of respect and the other to make sure the person wasn't just in some sort of coma and not buried alive.

    And may also have followed from the vigils, sitting with the person as
    the life ebbed away...

    ttyl neb

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MIKE POWELL on Thu Aug 22 11:01:00 2019
    Quoting Mike Powell to Joe Mackey on 08-17-19 15:38 <=-

    When people lived on farms mostly the loved ones were also buried on the property.
    My old family home there were many buried near the house.
    When the old homestead was sold many years ago the new owners, who could care less, took the tombstones and broke them up to use as gravel in a
    drive
    way!
    There is now no idea who is buried where there. :(

    We have an old family cemetary which has switched hands. Most of the gravestones are no longer legible, but my great-great-great
    grandfather's still was last time I was there. He was a Methodist preacher, so the UMC had made him a nice headstone at some point.

    Hopefully someone, either in the family or for some genealogy
    organization, wrote down the inscriptions before they became illegible
    and kept the record...

    In recent years, the farm changed hands again. The little cemetary
    was separated from the rest of the farm by an extra fence. The fellow took it down and started moving the headstones. Luckily, a family
    member who is in that area & who still tends to it caught him. In Kentucky, that is actually illegal, even if it is on your property.
    The guy had already been warned at least once, so he got fined. Supposedly, he tried to play dumb but the family member pointed out
    that it was obviously being tended to since the grass was cut.

    One hopes that the guy learned his lesson.... Is the law only to protect
    tended graveyards, or does it apply to any cemetery...?

    Since that grandfather's father's grave has long since been lost (we
    think it is under a small strip mall in Pike County, KY), keeping that cemetary from being forgotten is somewhat important.

    It's always important to preserve the memories of the past... it gives roots.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to NANCY BACKUS on Fri Aug 23 20:19:00 2019
    Hopefully someone, either in the family or for some genealogy
    organization, wrote down the inscriptions before they became illegible
    and kept the record...

    If they did, we are not aware of it. I am guessing they could have become illegible before my father was even born.

    One hopes that the guy learned his lesson.... Is the law only to protect tended graveyards, or does it apply to any cemetery...?

    That is a good question. I am not sure. This one was tended, although I
    worry that it might eventually not be as my distant cousin is getting up in
    age and no one in my immediate family lives near there.

    Mike

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MIKE POWELL on Mon Aug 26 21:49:00 2019
    Quoting Mike Powell to Nancy Backus on 08-23-19 20:23 <=-

    Hopefully someone, either in the family or for some genealogy
    organization, wrote down the inscriptions before they became illegible
    and kept the record...

    If they did, we are not aware of it. I am guessing they could have
    become illegible before my father was even born.

    Possible... soft stone does weather quickly...

    One hopes that the guy learned his lesson.... Is the law only to protect tended graveyards, or does it apply to any cemetery...?

    That is a good question. I am not sure. This one was tended,
    although I worry that it might eventually not be as my distant cousin
    is getting up in age and no one in my immediate family lives near
    there.

    You might want to consider alerting a local history group or
    genealogy/lineage society in the area that that graveyard exists... I'm
    sure that they would welcome the information if they don't already know
    about it... and they might be in a position to help protect it...

    ttyl neb

    ... Help! I'm going through cherry cheesecake withdrawal.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Thu Aug 29 16:19:00 2019
    Nancy,

    ... Help! I'm going through cherry cheesecake withdrawal.

    I don't know much about a raspberry pi...but a pineapple upside down cheesecake sounds awfully good right now. ;)

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Sat Aug 31 16:15:00 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 08-29-19 16:24 <=-

    ... Help! I'm going through cherry cheesecake withdrawal.

    I don't know much about a raspberry pi...but a pineapple upside down cheesecake sounds awfully good right now. ;)

    They all do... :)

    þ OLX 1.53 þ All computers wait at the same speed.

    Quite true.... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Foods labeled "heart smart" now labeled as "stomach stupid"

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Mon Sep 2 13:00:00 2019
    Nancy,

    ... Help! I'm going through cherry cheesecake withdrawal.

    I don't know much about a raspberry pi...but a pineapple upside down cheesecake sounds awfully good right now. ;)

    They all do... :)

    Especially chilled. :)

    þ OLX 1.53 þ All computers wait at the same speed.

    Quite true.... :)

    Makes you think you're back on dial-up internet. :P The kids nowadays complain about the length of time it takes to get on Netflix, or the
    internet. They had no clue on what those of us who called dial-up BBS's,
    had to deal with.

    ... Foods labeled "heart smart" now labeled as "stomach stupid"

    Really. All the processed foods are drowning in sodium...and
    anchovies on pizza and especially loaded with salt!! Not the best idea
    if you have a heart condition.

    Daryl
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Sun Sep 8 22:15:00 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 09-02-19 13:05 <=-

    Continuing from the Pond on 8 Sept....

    ... Help! I'm going through cherry cheesecake withdrawal.
    I don't know much about a raspberry pi...but a pineapple upside down
    cheesecake sounds awfully good right now. ;)
    They all do... :)

    Especially chilled. :)

    Or even at room temp,,, ;)

    þ OLX 1.53 þ All computers wait at the same speed.
    Quite true.... :)

    Makes you think you're back on dial-up internet. :P The kids
    nowadays complain about the length of time it takes to get on Netflix,
    or the internet. They had no clue on what those of us who called
    dial-up BBS's, had to deal with.

    Or how long one would have to endure a seemingly endless busy signal
    until the bbs finally would let one on.... <G>

    ... Foods labeled "heart smart" now labeled as "stomach stupid"

    Really. All the processed foods are drowning in sodium...and
    anchovies on pizza and especially loaded with salt!! Not the best idea
    if you have a heart condition.

    Some of those would be both heart stupid and stomach stupid,
    actually.... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!

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