Daryl wrote --

They couldn't care less about taking care of their parents

So many have been raised thinking they are the most important person in
the world, the world revolves around them, etc. They have difficulty with
the real world.

or much else. The Y generation basically is the figure at the top of the

butt crack, because they wear their pants so low.

I would be behind people on campus dressed that way and would think "Pull
up your pants!"
One time I thought that and the guy in front of me actually did. I then thought "I didn't know my thoughts carried that far?"
One time this guy I knew was dressed that way and I said that to him.
People stopped and looked (not knowing I knew him) wondering how I could say something like that. He just laughed and pulled them up.

Even if they knew what that meant, they probably wouldn't care, anyway.

True.

I miss the monthly BBS User and Sysop gatherings.

I attended only one.
The woman who ran it was very shy and didn't show up. (She had
everything planned, all we had to do was meet and eat).
After it was over I wrote how sorry she wasn't there, everyone missed
her, etc.
She wrote back she was there, just that no one knew it was her.
Then some wag wrote saying he wondered who the woman in the trench coat,
dark glasses and slouch hat sitting in a darkened corner was.

As a side note, I tried the their "Impossible Whopper" last week. It's

supposed to be a vegan burger

I think I'll pass. I prefer real meat in a burger.

Everyone wants the glory and the benefits, but no one wants the gall or the

work involved.

Ain't that the truth.
There's on saying: Success has many parents, but failure is an orphan.
Joe
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Hello Daryl!

** 17.08.19 - 10:16, Daryl Stout wrote to JOE MACKEY:

Kids! Whats the matter with today?
Why can't they be like we were, perfect in every way...

They couldn't care less about taking care of their parents (as I did),
or much else. The Y generation basically is the figure at the top of the
butt crack, because they wear their pants so low...

ROTL !!!


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Joe,

So many have been raised thinking they are the most important person in
the world, the world revolves around them, etc. They have difficulty with JM>the real world.

I have some ham radio operators on the traffic nets, that think "the
world, ham radio, and nets, revolve around them". It, like the BBS, is a
HOBBY -- it should never take PRIORITY over such things like church,
family, health, job, or especially "honey-do's". :P

One time this guy I knew was dressed that way and I said that to him.
People stopped and looked (not knowing I knew him) wondering how I could say
something like that. He just laughed and pulled them up.

You have the power. <G>

Then some wag wrote saying he wondered who the woman in the trench coat,
dark glasses and slouch hat sitting in a darkened corner was.

LOL.

As a side note, I tried the their "Impossible Whopper" last week. It's JM>supposed to be a vegan burger

I think I'll pass. I prefer real meat in a burger.

I'll try anything once. But, most days, I prefer to "eat on the
cheap". But, as my late wife noted, she didn't are whether we ate at
McDonald's or The Olive Garden...food was food.

There's on saying: Success has many parents, but failure is an orphan.

Yep...yet, so many embrace the latter.

Now, in competition, you wonder "Why should I work so hard? I'll get a trophy, anyway". :P

Daryl

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Hello Daryl!

Hi, August...

They couldn't care less about taking care of their parents (as I

did),

or much else. The Y generation basically is the figure at the top of

the

butt crack, because they wear their pants so low...

ROTL !!!

I am uncomfortable when my pants fall down or off (thank goodness for undergarments, or it'd be "Full Moon Rising" <G>.

Daryl

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Daryl wrote --

world, ham radio, and nets, revolve around them". It, like the BBS, is a

HOBBY -- it should never take PRIORITY over such things like church,

family, health, job, or especially "honey-do's". :P

WHAT!! Heresy! Burn him! :)

I'll try anything once. But, most days, I prefer to "eat on the
cheap". But, as my late wife noted, she didn't are whether we ate at McDonald's or The Olive Garden...food was food.

One of a number of things I noticed on my trip.
My last cross country trip was in the mid 1970s. Then you had
mom-and-pop diners along the road. Those are nearly all gone now. I recall seeing
only two (ate at one) on my trip. Now they are all the same FF joints.
Of course gas stations with a max of four pumps are gone, replaced by
many pumps with options, convenience stores, etc.
I was in a truck stop somewhere in PA (can't recall off hand where, near
NJ) for gas that was more of a mini-mall than a truck stop. And inside
instead of hearty truck driver food were national burgers and subs.

Now, in competition, you wonder "Why should I work so hard? I'll get a

trophy, anyway". :P

I still haven't gotten my trophy from the times I was called into work
with only minutes notice to fill in for someone who didn't show up.
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Joe...

world, ham radio, and nets, revolve around them". It, like the BBS, is a JM>HOBBY -- it should never take PRIORITY over such things like church,
family, health, job, or especially "honey-do's". :P

WHAT!! Heresy! Burn him! :)

Well, here comes the feed cut. :P But, without me as comedy relief,
the moderator will crash, and cede his authority to Nancy Backus. So, in
the interest of keeping Nancy Backus from wringing my neck, I'm going to
stay. <G>

My last cross country trip was in the mid 1970s. Then you had
mom-and-pop diners along the road. Those are nearly all gone now. I recall
seeing
only two (ate at one) on my trip. Now they are all the same FF joints.

I miss the old times, when things were slower, everyone knew each
other, and you didn't have to worry about locking your doors at night.

Of course gas stations with a max of four pumps are gone, replaced by
many pumps with options, convenience stores, etc.

And, gas was under 50 cents a gallon...what we wouldn't give for that
now!!

I was in a truck stop somewhere in PA (can't recall off hand where, near
NJ) for gas that was more of a mini-mall than a truck stop. And inside JM>instead of hearty truck driver food were national burgers and subs.

At a Lowe's Truck Stop in southwest Little Rock, a Subway sandwich
shop, and a Hardee's Restaurant are in the same building as the
convenience store...along with gas pumps outside for cars and trucks.

I still haven't gotten my trophy from the times I was called into work
with only minutes notice to fill in for someone who didn't show up.

Maybe it's an IOU Dream Trophy. They owe it to you, but you'll only
see it in your dreams. :P

Daryl

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Daryl wrote --

Well, here comes the feed cut. :P But, without me as comedy relief,
the moderator will crash, and cede his authority to Nancy Backus. So, in the

interest of keeping Nancy Backus from wringing my neck, I'm going to stay. <G>

Ok. Just make it five lashes... :)

I miss the old times, when things were slower, everyone knew each
other, and you didn't have to worry about locking your doors at night.

Yep.
Things were a lot better then and we didn't really appreciate the times.
Just think, someday today' kids will look back at the present as the "old days". I only wonder what they will have to say about them...

Of course gas stations with a max of four pumps are gone, replaced by

many pumps with options, convenience stores, etc.

And, gas was under 50 cents a gallon...what we wouldn't give for that
now!!

Ah, but you didn't take inflation as a factor.
According to https://westegg.com/inflation/ a dollar in 1975 would be
equal (in buying power) what it takes $4.72 today, so 50 cent gas in 1975 would
be $2.36 today. Gas around here runs about $2.45 a gallon so one is paying about what was the price in 197
And people in 1975 remembered 25 cent gas.*
That westegg site is really great to figure out costs then and now. It
goes back something like 1800 to 2018.
(*When I lived in a small Colorado town in the late 60s and again in the '70s, there was a U-Pump-It gas station.
Gas was 25 cents a gallon and you used tokens. Gave the attendant (in a
box) the cash and got the token, either 25 or 50 cents each. If you had gas left over you either lost that amount (no refunds) or you sold that amount
to the next person in line.
One time I was going to fill up my tank at the one on the other side of town, ran out gas part way up the hill and coasted backward into a name
brand station at the bottom of the hill and had to pay 32 cents a gallon! Outrageous.
I recall going through Nebraska on the way back to WV in the early '70s
and gas was 42 cents a gallon. I refused to pay that much and went on till I found it a little cheaper. My '65 Falcon would travel miles on fumes.
A few months later the first embargo hit and people would happily pay 42
for a gallon of gas, if they could get it).

At a Lowe's Truck Stop in southwest Little Rock, a Subway sandwich
shop, and a Hardee's Restaurant are in the same building as the
convenience store...along with gas pumps outside for cars and trucks.

I saw a lot of Love's along the way. Nancy is familiar with them I'm
sure since saw a lot in NYS.
I remember the name because we had a locally owned hardware store here
for years and years called Love's.
It was a small old-fashioned place, crammed floor to ceiling with all
sorts of things. Shelves and shelves of odds and ends in the hardware business
with a display of larger items, which were kept in a back room.
Need a left handed hammer? They had one. :)
If one couldn't find what they wanted just ask any clerk and they knew exactly where it was.
No big flashy place like big box hardware stores.

I still haven't gotten my trophy from the times I was called into work

with only minutes notice to fill in for someone who didn't show up.

Maybe it's an IOU Dream Trophy. They owe it to you, but you'll only
see it in your dreams. :P

Oh, so that's where it is!
Joe

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Joe Mackey on 08-23-19 17:39 <=-

world, ham radio, and nets, revolve around them". It, like the BBS,
is a HOBBY -- it should never take PRIORITY over such things like
church, family, health, job, or especially "honey-do's". :P

WHAT!! Heresy! Burn him! :)

Well, here comes the feed cut. :P But, without me as comedy relief,
the moderator will crash, and cede his authority to Nancy Backus. So,
in the interest of keeping Nancy Backus from wringing my neck, I'm
going to stay. <G>

Whew! Not that I'd accept that, of course, so of course also, I /would/
be wringing your neck.... <G> He's not going to cut your feed, and you
know it.... ;) I sure hope that missing the comedy relief wouldn't
knock him that badly, as well.... :)

ttyl neb

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Daryl Stout on 08-26-19 06:13 <=-

I miss the old times, when things were slower, everyone knew each
other, and you didn't have to worry about locking your doors at night.

Yep.
Things were a lot better then and we didn't really appreciate the
times. Just think, someday today' kids will look back at the present
as the "old days". I only wonder what they will have to say about
them...

The scary thing is thinking how much worse things might get, so that the present /would/ be the good old days....

At a Lowe's Truck Stop in southwest Little Rock, a Subway sandwich
shop, and a Hardee's Restaurant are in the same building as the
convenience store...along with gas pumps outside for cars and trucks.

I saw a lot of Love's along the way. Nancy is familiar with them
I'm sure since saw a lot in NYS.
I remember the name because we had a locally owned hardware store
here for years and years called Love's.

Love's or Lowe's...? There are Lowe's (big box) hardware stores here...
I've not seen Lowe's Truck Stops here, though...

It was a small old-fashioned place, crammed floor to ceiling with
all sorts of things. Shelves and shelves of odds and ends in the
hardware business with a display of larger items, which were kept in a back room. Need a left handed hammer? They had one. :)
If one couldn't find what they wanted just ask any clerk and they
knew exactly where it was.
No big flashy place like big box hardware stores.

We had a place like that here in our neighborhood... Hunt's Hardware, a family-owned business for 4-5, maybe more, generations... just like you describe... and our go-to place... :) They closed forever a few years
ago, as the next generation wasn't interested in carrying on the
tradition... and is sorely missed by the neighborhood... They were
almost the last one in the area... and the only other one near us closed
this year... So now we have to go to the big box places, which don't
have nearly as much of the "strange" stuff...

ttyl neb

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Joe,

Well, here comes the feed cut. :P But, without me as comedy relief,
the moderator will crash, and cede his authority to Nancy Backus. So, in JM>interest of keeping Nancy Backus from wringing my neck, I'm going to stay.

Ok. Just make it five lashes... :)

I already have lashes over my eyes, thank you. Bad enough with eating
dill pickle potato chips, and snacking on ice cream sandwiches...folks
started to wonder about me "eating pickles and ice cream". I'm still
trying to figure out this craving. <BG> The last time I wore makeup was
when I was in plays in theatre arts 40 years ago...I broke out in zits
from all the oils. :P

There's a new version to an old nursery rhyme (Jack and Jill), as
follows:

ORIGINAL:

Jack and Jill went up a hill to fetch a pail of water.
Jack fell down, and broke his crown; and Jill came tumbling after.

REVISED:

Jack and Jill went up a hill to do some hanky panky.
Poor ol' Jill forgot her pill; and now, there's little Frankie.

Things were a lot better then and we didn't really appreciate the times.
Just think, someday today' kids will look back at the present as the "old
days". I only wonder what they will have to say about them...

We thought we knew everything growing up...but we didn't know squat.

Ah, but you didn't take inflation as a factor.

I guess not.

According to https://westegg.com/inflation/ a dollar in 1975 would be
equal (in buying power) what it takes $4.72 today, so 50 cent gas in 1975 JM>would be $2.36 today. Gas around here runs about $2.45 a gallon so
one is paying JM>about what was the price in 197

197?? Boy, you have been around a long time!! <g,d,r>

And people in 1975 remembered 25 cent gas.*

The cheapest I remember it was 24.9 cents. And, they've discussed it
before, but I forget why they set it with 9/10 cents per gallon.

Maybe it's an IOU Dream Trophy. They owe it to you, but you'll only
see it in your dreams. :P

Oh, so that's where it is!

See?? I helped you find something. <g,d,r>

Daryl

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Nancy,

Whew! Not that I'd accept that, of course, so of course also, I /would/ NB>be wringing your neck.... <G> He's not going to cut your feed, and you NB>know it.... ;) I sure hope that missing the comedy relief wouldn't
knock him that badly, as well.... :)

Better than 30 lashes with a wet ethernet cable...although Joe was
willing to cut it down to 5. <BG>

I said to a friend who got "a tune stuck in her head" from one of my
posts, that "you'll have to just spank me"...and she said "Nah!! You'd
enjoy it too much"!! <G>

Daryl

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Nancy wrote --

Just think, someday today' kids will look back at the present as the

"old days". I only wonder what they will have to say about them...

The scary thing is thinking how much worse things might get, so that the

present /would/ be the good old days....

I'm sure each current generation has looked back at whatever their good
old days were and miss them. Just as each new generation has concerns about the upcoming generation.

I saw a lot of Love's along the way. Nancy is familiar with them
I'm sure since saw a lot in NYS.

Love's or Lowe's...? There are Lowe's (big box) hardware stores here...

I've not seen Lowe's Truck Stops here, though...

I think Love's truck stops may be more of a PA/downstate operation.
Their logo is a huge red heart.
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Daryl wrote --

Just think, someday today' kids will look back at the present as the

"old days". I only wonder what they will have to say about them...

We thought we knew everything growing up...but we didn't know squat.

I did knew everything thing.
I just forgot a lot as time passed.
Every generation believes it knows more than the previous one, they have
all the answers, etc. Maybe they have the answers, its just to the wrong questions.

one is paying about what was the price in 197

197?? Boy, you have been around a long time!! <g,d,r>

I was thinking of the cost of feeding a horse, or a mule or ox in CXCVII.

The cheapest I remember it was 24.9 cents. And, they've discussed it before, but I forget why they set it with 9/10 cents per gallon.

Taxes.
The feds starting charging gas taxes in in the early '30s at one cent a gallon, then a few years later 1.5 cents. When it was rounded off to say
25.9 cent it was "cheaper" than paying 26 cents a gallon.
Its psychological.
If one is buying a product at .99 cents it seems more of a bargain than paying $1. Granted it is a penny cheaper, but seems more so in one's mind.
One reason I am against getting rid of pennies. Price will be rounded
up, not down.
Joe (a penny saved is a penny saved)
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 08-30-19 07:07 <=-

Just think, someday today' kids will look back at the present as
the "old days". I only wonder what they will have to say about
them...

The scary thing is thinking how much worse things might get, so that
the present /would/ be the good old days....

I'm sure each current generation has looked back at whatever their
good old days were and miss them. Just as each new generation has concerns about the upcoming generation.

Yup.

I saw a lot of Love's along the way. Nancy is familiar with them
I'm sure since saw a lot in NYS.

Love's or Lowe's...? There are Lowe's (big box) hardware stores
here... I've not seen Lowe's Truck Stops here, though...

I think Love's truck stops may be more of a PA/downstate operation.
Their logo is a huge red heart.

Ah... yes, I've seen those in my travels... just (I don't think, anyway)
not here in NYS...

ttyl neb

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Joe,

We thought we knew everything growing up...but we didn't know squat.

I did knew everything thing.
I just forgot a lot as time passed.

I knew you'd have a good rationale and reasoning for it. <G>

Every generation believes it knows more than the previous one, they have
all the answers, etc. Maybe they have the answers, its just to the wrong JM>questions.

Talk about Double Jeopardy!! Speaking of which, I miss these shows,
with their hosts and announcers:

1) Jeopardy! Art Fleming, Don Pardo
2) Concentration. Hugh Downs, Bob Clayton

There are numerous other old game shows...such as Beat The Clock,
What's My Line?, Press Your Luck, Card Sharks, Tic-Tac-Dough, and Sale
Of The Century, among others. Some have continued on, such as The Price
Is Right, Wheel Of Fortune, and Let's Make A Deal, but they'll never
beat the originals.

one is paying about what was the price in 197

197?? Boy, you have been around a long time!! <g,d,r>

I was thinking of the cost of feeding a horse, or a mule or ox in CXCVII.

I used to know all those Roman Numerals...the only time you see them
now is in TV shows and movies.

The feds starting charging gas taxes in in the early '30s at one cent a
gallon, then a few years later 1.5 cents. When it was rounded off to say JM>25.9 cent it was "cheaper" than paying 26 cents a gallon.
Its psychological.

Yep.

If one is buying a product at .99 cents it seems more of a bargain than
paying $1. Granted it is a penny cheaper, but seems more so in one's mind.

Or, they will only sell things like 3 loaves of bread for $1, and you
can't buy just one loaf for 33 or 34 cents. That happened years ago when
my parents (both gone now) were shopping in Pine Bluff.

My late father had been a comptroller for Swift And Company (a meat processing firm, bought out by ConAgra), and he could work a
"comtometer" with calculations like nobody's business...and he could do
a ton of transactions in his head. He was absolutely livid at the
people's mathematical idiocy.

I'll never be as good as my late father was in computations...but I
don't panic when I run out of fingers and toes. <G>

One reason I am against getting rid of pennies. Price will be rounded
up, not down.

You got that right.

Speaking of pennies, I'm reminded of a funny joke, that I heard at a
square dance weekend years ago.

This woman came up to me, and said "Can I ask you a couple of
questions??". I replied "Why not??".

She opened her hand, and you had 2 pennies...one face up, and the
other face down. She asked "Do you see any automobiles or snakes
here??". I replied "No...just 2 pennies".

She pointed at the back of the penny, and said "You have a Lincoln (Continental)...and then at Abe's bust, and said "You have a
Copperhead". <G>

Groaning, I said "Ok, you made your point". She then asked, "Do you
see any sex here??". I should've known that something was coming, but I
said "no".

Grinning, she replied "Amd, you're not going to see any. What did you
expect for 2 cents, you cheapskate??!!". She then turned and walked
away. <G>

At which point, I accidentally kicked over a coffee cup half full of
water. Another square dancer said "You just couldn't wait, could
you??!!". I was so red. <G>

Daryl

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Nancy,

Love's or Lowe's...? There are Lowe's (big box) hardware stores here... NB>I've not seen Lowe's Truck Stops here, though...

I think it's LOVE'S TRUCK STOP, and LOWE'S HARDWARE.

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Daryl wrote --

There are numerous other old game shows...such as Beat The Clock,
What's My Line?, Press Your Luck, Card Sharks, Tic-Tac-Dough,

Check You Tube. A lot are there.
I've been watching WML since the early shows and up to 1965 currently.

Or, they will only sell things like 3 loaves of bread for $1, and you
can't buy just one loaf for 33 or 34 cents.

Probably because the checker couldn't figure that out in their head.

"comtometer" with calculations like nobody's business...and he could do
a ton of transactions in his head.

Good thing we don't still use Roman numerals. :)
When I was in the car business there was another salesman who would do a
lot of figuring on an adding machine and then on paper. i once asked why he did that and he replied to make sure the adding machine was correct. :)

Grinning, she replied "Amd, you're not going to see any. What did you expect for 2 cents, you cheapskate??!!". She then turned and walked
away. <G>

LOL ==spewing coffee on keyboard)
Joe
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Joe,

There are numerous other old game shows...such as Beat The Clock,
What's My Line?, Press Your Luck, Card Sharks, Tic-Tac-Dough,

Check You Tube. A lot are there.
I've been watching WML since the early shows and up to 1965 currently.

Some of those WML ones are a scream...especially when Groucho Marx was
on the panel. <BG>

Probably because the checker couldn't figure that out in their head.

If the computer or power goes out, they're going to panic. I can do it
in my head, but as noted, I'll never be as good as my late father was in
that regard.

Good thing we don't still use Roman numerals. :)

Some would consider the stick numbers as members of a family, then
with the diagonal slash to signal "5", they probably would think the
family got zapped. :P

When I was in the car business there was another salesman who would do a
lot of figuring on an adding machine and then on paper. i once asked why he
did that and he replied to make sure the adding machine was correct. :)

There you go.

Grinning, she replied "Amd, you're not going to see any. What did you JM>> expect for 2 cents, you cheapskate??!!". She then turned and walked
away. <G>

LOL ==spewing coffee on keyboard)

Now you know why I knocked over the glass of water below the chair.


Daryl

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 08-31-19 12:17 <=-

Love's or Lowe's...? There are Lowe's (big box) hardware stores here...
I've not seen Lowe's Truck Stops here, though...

I think it's LOVE'S TRUCK STOP, and LOWE'S HARDWARE.

Ok, that makes sense... and when he (or was it you) mentioned the heart
on the truckstop's sign, I realized I had seen the truckstop when
traveling... but I don't remember if any were in NYS, or all in other
states...

ttyl neb

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Nancy,

I think it's LOVE'S TRUCK STOP, and LOWE'S HARDWARE.

Ok, that makes sense... and when he (or was it you) mentioned the heart NB>on the truckstop's sign, I realized I had seen the truckstop when NB>traveling... but I don't remember if any were in NYS, or all in other NB>states...

In central Arkansas, there's a Love's Truck Stop at Exit 161 and
Interstate 40...and possibly one at Exit 128 and Interstate 30...both
just outside the Little Rock area. There are also things like Hardee's
and Subway at the truck stop complex.

There's a Lowe's Hardware at Kanis and Bowman Roads in west Little
Rock, but I'm not sure of any other location offhand.

What I really need, is to go to either Home Depot or Wal-Mart to find
2 similar items...

1) An adhesive deal to hold the portable shower hose up. Before she got
so sick, my Mom converted the tub to a walk-in jacuzzi. It's hard to
hold the shower deal and lather up.

2) An adhesive deal to put on the hallway wall, where I can hang
pictures, plaques, etc.

I might try to go out there after the annual campus fall picnic at the
local college tomorrow. The last few years, and tomorrow, a local BBQ restaurant is catering...BBQ with all the trimmings. It's only from
11:30am to 1:30pm, but it gives me a chance to get out. I'm an alumnus
from there, and a Life Member of their Alumni Association.

Daryl

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Daryl wrote to Nancy --

I'm an alumnus from there, and a Life Member of their Alumni Association.

I didn't know you even to school.
Joe



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Joe,

I'm an alumnus from there, and a Life Member of their Alumni Association.

I didn't know you even to school.

Sounds like you need to go back from that reply. <g,d,r>

Originally founded in 1927 as Little Rock University, it became known
as Little Rock Junior College. When it was absorbed into the University
Of Arkansas System (the main campus is in Fayetteville in northwest
Arkansas), it became known as the University Of Arkansas At Little Rock,
or UALR -- some refer to it as "the University of Absolute Last Resort".
:P

In the sports realm, only the Little Rock campus in the system doesn't
have a football team at present (the main campus again, is at
Fayetteville). But, both Fayetteville and Little Rock (possibly other
campuses) have basketball...and one year, Arkansas didn't win their
conference tournament, but UALR did...and as a result UALR went to "The
Big Dance"...and knocked off Notre Dame in the first round. That angered
so many Arkansas Razorback fans, it was pathetic. To make matters worse, Arkansas will NOT play any other in-state school. I guess they couldn't
live it down if they got beat.

So much has changed since I graduated over 36 years ago...as noted
below.

THEN: No dorms on campus. It was a commuter campus...and students lived
in apartments off campus, or in homes with their parents.

NOW: Dorms -- and freshman students are REQUIRED to live in them.

THEN: Tuition was $400 a semester, with an average of $100 for books.
(Arkansas residents).

NOW: Tuition ranges from $9167 to $15292 per semester (higher for those
who don't live in Arkansas). That includes an average of $900 for books,
plus room and board, and tuition and fees.

Many other schools are much higher than that.

While going to UALR, I worked at 2 area Burger King restaurants, and
lived at home, so I basically put myself through school.

When I turn 65 (5 1/2 years from now), if I wanted to go back, I think
I'd be exempt from tuition.

Daryl
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Daryl wrote --

I didn't know you even to school.

Sounds like you need to go back from that reply. <g,d,r>

I was checking to make sure you were paying attention... --looking
around innocently--

So much has changed since I graduated over 36 years ago

The last few years I revisited a couple of colleges I went to.
Man, the changes...
A community college about 100 miles away is huge. When I went there it
was nothing more than a oversized high school, one building. Now many buildings.
Another in Colorado was unrecognizable. Again, that one had maybe three buildings, now the campus covers blocks.
WVU was pretty much the same, only the insides were changed and a few few buildings.

THEN: No dorms on campus. It was a commuter campus...and students lived
in apartments off campus, or in homes with their parents.

Still the way with junior/community colleges here. They are commuter
schools.
But colleges and universities require all freshmen, who live more than 50 miles away, to live on campus for the first year.
Mostly its just all about money. The schools rake in a big pile of money that way from various fees.
The state is guaranteed a pile of money the first year since the student could flunk out but still collect the whole semester amount.

THEN: Tuition was $400 a semester, with an average of $100 for books.

When I attended WVU in the mid-70s tuition was $250 a semester, in state. (No idea of out-of-state). Books were equal to or higher than tuition. I
went on the GI Bill which paid tuition only. Books, fees, etc were up to the student to pay. (Thus PT job
At Marshall University tuition and fees go up all the time.
The Board of Governors (Regents in some places) meet quarterly and at
each meeting costs go up.
Tuition is in the thousands, fees equal to that, not to mention the outrageous book prices. And if a freshman there are dorm fees.
Several years ago I was in the bookstore and a parent in front of me was buying a simple workbook for her daughter and that was over $90 and just one
of the many she was buying, and the cheapest.
I had classes where after you bought the book the instructor would say he wasn't using it and one could almost hear him chuckling over the wasted
money.
Or a book has been "revised" and need the new book with the revision
being something that made no difference (new cover, or something minor).
And then getting pennies back on the dollar when selling the books later since whatever book one bought wasn't being used the next semester.
Marshall has gone to renting textbooks, which is a bit cheaper.
And some are now on DVD rather than paper.
I often wondered why some enterprising person wouldn't buy a book, scan
it and put on a CD and sell for a fraction of the book and still make a few bucks as well.
Joe
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Joe,

Daryl wrote --

I didn't know you even to school.

Sounds like you need to go back from that reply. <g,d,r>

I was checking to make sure you were paying attention... --looking
around innocently--

Innocent as a newborn baby -- baby rat, that is <g,d,r>.

Still the way with junior/community colleges here. They are commuter
schools.

UALR, at one time, WAS a commuter campus.

But colleges and universities require all freshmen, who live more than 50
miles away, to live on campus for the first year.
Mostly its just all about money. The schools rake in a big pile of money
that way from various fees.
The state is guaranteed a pile of money the first year since the student
could flunk out but still collect the whole semester amount.

The fees I quoted were "mild" compared to some colleges around the
country.

The Board of Governors (Regents in some places) meet quarterly and at
each meeting costs go up.

Or if some coughs, sneezes, belches, or f@r+$, it goes up even more.
:P

Tuition is in the thousands, fees equal to that, not to mention the
outrageous book prices. And if a freshman there are dorm fees.

One year, I got the books for $77.77 -- the cashier said "Looks like
you hit the jackpot". I asked "Does that mean I get my books free?", and
she said "No"...to which I replied "D@mn!!" It was worth a try anyway.

Several years ago I was in the bookstore and a parent in front of me was
buying a simple workbook for her daughter and that was over $90 and just one
of the many she was buying, and the cheapest.

There are some off campus book stores, but some of the used books are
so marked up, that verifies "you get what you pay for". :P

I had classes where after you bought the book the instructor would say he
wasn't using it and one could almost hear him chuckling over the wasted JM>money.

I wonder if he got a kickback on that.

Or a book has been "revised" and need the new book with the revision
being something that made no difference (new cover, or something minor).

Really.

And then getting pennies back on the dollar when selling the books later
since whatever book one bought wasn't being used the next semester.

A new edition every semester...that's ridiculous.

Marshall has gone to renting textbooks, which is a bit cheaper.

Never heard of that idea.

And some are now on DVD rather than paper.

Interesting...never heard of that either.

I often wondered why some enterprising person wouldn't buy a book, scan
it and put on a CD and sell for a fraction of the book and still make a few JM>bucks as well.

Now, there's an idea whose time has come. :)

Daryl


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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 09-04-19 18:03 <=-

And one more from the Pond, 10 Sept at about 10:55pm....

I think it's LOVE'S TRUCK STOP, and LOWE'S HARDWARE.

Ok, that makes sense... and when he (or was it you) mentioned the
heart on the truckstop's sign, I realized I had seen the truckstop(s)
when traveling... but I don't remember if any were in NYS, or all in
other states...

In central Arkansas, there's a Love's Truck Stop at Exit 161 and Interstate 40...and possibly one at Exit 128 and Interstate 30...both
just outside the Little Rock area. There are also things like Hardee's
and Subway at the truck stop complex.
There's a Lowe's Hardware at Kanis and Bowman Roads in west Little
Rock, but I'm not sure of any other location offhand.

Ah, so you have them both around your way... :)

What I really need, is to go to either Home Depot or Wal-Mart to
find 2 similar items...
1) An adhesive deal to hold the portable shower hose up. Before she
got so sick, my Mom converted the tub to a walk-in jacuzzi. It's hard
to hold the shower deal and lather up.
2) An adhesive deal to put on the hallway wall, where I can hang
pictures, plaques, etc.

So one that needs to be water-resistant, and another that it doesn't
matter... :)

I might try to go out there after the annual campus fall picnic at
the local college tomorrow. The last few years, and tomorrow, a local
BBQ restaurant is catering...BBQ with all the trimmings. It's only from 11:30am to 1:30pm, but it gives me a chance to get out. I'm an alumnus from there, and a Life Member of their Alumni Association.

That will be good for you... :) Hope you enjoyed it... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy,

Ah, so you have them both around your way... :)

But, they are in different sections of town. I saw one bizarre image
on Facebook awhile back, where this employee had skin tone tan leggings
on. It looked like she was naked from the waist down...butt crack and
all.

With all the crap on Facebook, with tons of "friends" sending me
messages on my Timeline, and in Messenger, saying "You need to share
this" or "click on this link", I finally had enough...and promptly
UNFRIENDED ALL OF MY FRIENDS...family members, relatives, and everyone
else.

One ham radio operator went ballistic, and basically "demanded" I sent
back to him this ThumbDV device that he had sent me as a birthday
present (that makes him an "Indian Giver" in my eyes). Now, he's
spreading lies about me, because I've told some ham radio friends why I
won't be around for awhile. Well, *HE* was the one who got mad...and I
don't spend all my waking moments on Facebook, the BBS, with ham radio,
square dancing, or anything else. Right now, health is a much higher
priority.

So one that needs to be water-resistant, and another that it doesn't NB>matter... :)

Basically, yes. Not sure if Home Depot would have both or not, but I
sure don't feel like driving all over town to look for it.

That will be good for you... :) Hope you enjoyed it... :)

The food was OK...my legs gave me terrible grief. I had brought my
cane, but should've brought my walker. If that wasn't bad enough, I
nearly got heat stroke.

Daryl


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Daryl wrote to Nancy --

With all the crap on Facebook, with tons of "friends" sending me
messages on my Timeline, and in Messenger, saying "You need to share
this"

When I run across something like that I think "No I don't". :)
I've read where a lot of these are tracking mechanism's (not the fault
of the user or sender).
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Joe,

When I run across something like that I think "No I don't". :)

I had a picture of "grumpy cat", with all these things ("you need to
share this", "if you care you'll share this", etc.) -- and each time,
Grumpy Cat growled "NO!!". <G>

I've read where a lot of these are tracking mechanism's (not the fault
of the user or sender).

I uninstalled Facebook and Messenger from the phone. A local BBS Sysop
saw the message on my Timeline, as it was posted the same day my Mom
died, and he got worried about me.

Daryl


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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 09-12-19 12:33 <=-

With all the crap on Facebook, with tons of "friends" sending me
messages on my Timeline, and in Messenger, saying "You need to share
this" or "click on this link", I finally had enough...and promptly UNFRIENDED ALL OF MY FRIENDS...family members, relatives, and everyone else.

Possibly you overreacted there... I'd think that true friends and family
might have well been exempt from the unfriending... But then, I'm not
one to talk, really, since I've never had a Facebook account and don't
intend to get one... :)

One ham radio operator went ballistic, and basically "demanded" I
sent back to him this ThumbDV device that he had sent me as a birthday present (that makes him an "Indian Giver" in my eyes). Now, he's
spreading lies about me, because I've told some ham radio friends why
I won't be around for awhile. Well, *HE* was the one who got mad...and
I don't spend all my waking moments on Facebook, the BBS, with ham
radio, square dancing, or anything else. Right now, health is a much higher priority.

Quite agreed that health is a higher priority than the other stuff... :)

That will be good for you... :) Hope you enjoyed it... :)

The food was OK...my legs gave me terrible grief. I had brought my
cane, but should've brought my walker. If that wasn't bad enough, I
nearly got heat stroke.

Sigh... I guess you'll know for next year's reunion that you'll need
the walker... and maybe to prepare better for the heat... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy,

Possibly you overreacted there... I'd think that true friends and family NB>might have well been exempt from the unfriending... But then, I'm not NB>one to talk, really, since I've never had a Facebook account and don't NB>intend to get one... :)

I was even getting it from them, and I got tired of it.

The problem now is that I have 2FA (two factor authentication), and it requires them send a numeric code for me to enter, before I can login.
Yet, someone cut a fiber optic cable yesterday, and both my cellphone
and internet were out for a time. Facebook said I had requested too many
text messages, and so I had to send them a copy of my drivers license,
as verification of my identity. Of course, they're dragging their feet
on getting me in.

Quite agreed that health is a higher priority than the other stuff... :)

I also know my limits.

Sigh... I guess you'll know for next year's reunion that you'll need
the walker... and maybe to prepare better for the heat... :)

Yeah, next year, it'll be the walker, and I'll go inside to eat. With
the cloud cover and storms Thursday night and Friday, we stayed in the 70's...had been in the 90's every day since late August.

Daryl


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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 09-21-19 15:48 <=-

Possibly you overreacted there... I'd think that true friends and
family might have well been exempt from the unfriending... But then,
I'm not one to talk, really, since I've never had a Facebook account
and don't intend to get one... :)

I was even getting it from them, and I got tired of it.

Can't blame you for getting tired of it... that's one reason I'm not on Facebook myself...

The problem now is that I have 2FA (two factor authentication), and
it requires them send a numeric code for me to enter, before I can
login. Yet, someone cut a fiber optic cable yesterday, and both my cellphone and internet were out for a time. Facebook said I had
requested too many text messages, and so I had to send them a copy of
my drivers license, as verification of my identity. Of course, they're dragging their feet on getting me in.

And that sort of hassle is another... A friend was asked for similar,
just because he'd not checked in on his account for what they considered
too long a time...

Sigh... I guess you'll know for next year's reunion that you'll need
the walker... and maybe to prepare better for the heat... :)

Yeah, next year, it'll be the walker, and I'll go inside to eat.
With the cloud cover and storms Thursday night and Friday, we stayed in the 70's...had been in the 90's every day since late August.

Finally getting some relief... :) Our high today is just under 70
degrees... last two days had been in the mid to high 80s...

ttyl neb

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Nancy,

Can't blame you for getting tired of it... that's one reason I'm not on NB>Facebook myself...

It feels good not to have a ton of notifications.

And that sort of hassle is another... A friend was asked for similar, NB>just because he'd not checked in on his account for what they considered NB>too long a time...

They finally unlocked my account. I don't use it that much, but at
least I downloaded some backup codes to use, if the cellphone goes down
again, and I can't get the codes.

Finally getting some relief... :) Our high today is just under 70 NB>degrees... last two days had been in the mid to high 80s...

We MIGHT get some relief come early October. I hope it's not at the
price of severe weather beforehand.

Daryl


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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 09-25-19 12:40 <=-

Can't blame you for getting tired of it... that's one reason I'm not on
Facebook myself...

It feels good not to have a ton of notifications.

I'm sure... :)

And that sort of hassle is another... A friend was asked for similar,
just because he'd not checked in on his account for what they
considered too long a time...

They finally unlocked my account. I don't use it that much, but at
least I downloaded some backup codes to use, if the cellphone goes
down again, and I can't get the codes.

Hopefully that will be enough...

Finally getting some relief... :) Our high today is just under 70
degrees... last two days had been in the mid to high 80s...

We MIGHT get some relief come early October. I hope it's not at the
price of severe weather beforehand.

Here it overcorrected... it's downright chilly at the moment... and
there's freeze warning for overnight tonight...

ttyl neb

... I am positive that a definite maybe is probably in order.

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