• Linux & Modems

    From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to All on Thu May 23 23:13:37 2019
    Re: Irex and Argus
    By: RUBEN FIGUEROA to Charles Stephenson on Wed May 22 2019 07:32 am

    All,

    Wondering, I'm venturing into setting up my dial-up modem with linux, but since
    (if I read it correct) by default, alot of distros don't support them. I'd have
    to do something to my kernel.

    Can anybody point me to some help sites/blogs/videos I can use to set my modems
    up? I'm using Ubuntu 19.04 and I have a external 'linux compat' USB 56k modem(s).

    Thanks
    Regards,
    KrUpTiOn
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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Charles Stephenson on Fri May 24 11:20:04 2019
    Hello Charles!

    23 May 19 23:13, you wrote to All:

    Wondering, I'm venturing into setting up my dial-up modem with linux, but since (if I read it correct) by default, alot of distros don't support them. I'd have to do something to my kernel.

    Can anybody point me to some help sites/blogs/videos I can use to set my modems up? I'm using Ubuntu 19.04 and I have a external 'linux compat'
    USB
    56k modem(s).

    All Debian derived distributions and others probably as well, have "mgetty"
    getting it to work together with systemd is a challenge. Use it as a
    replacemnet for agetty on serialports. Scourge Google for mgetty for
    examples.

    Kees

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to CHARLES STEPHENSON on Fri May 24 10:54:00 2019
    Wondering, I'm venturing into setting up my dial-up modem with linux, but since
    (if I read it correct) by default, alot of distros don't support them. I'd have
    to do something to my kernel.

    I did not have to do anything to my kernel. I did have to hook up a USB to serial conversion cable to get my USR Sportster to work. Then all I had to
    do was tell sexpots which device to listen to. Sexpots answers the modem
    and then makes the telnet connection to the board, connecting the modem
    call to my dosemu session that runs my DOS bbs.

    I set the device in the sexpots.ini file. For my system, it
    is /dev/ttyUSB0.

    Before I went 64-bit, I was not even using sexpots. I had dosemu listening
    to the device, and it would pass the connection directly to Binkleyterm.

    Mike

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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to Kees van Eeten on Fri May 24 20:51:50 2019
    Re: Linux & Modems
    By: Kees van Eeten to Charles Stephenson on Fri May 24 2019 11:20 am

    All Debian derived distributions and others probably as well, have "mgetty" getting it to work together with systemd is a challenge. Use it as a replacemnet for agetty on serialports. Scourge Google for mgetty for examples.


    Thanks for the help! I'll be googl'ing my butt off this weekend! :)
    Regards,
    KrUpTiOn
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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Charles Stephenson on Sat May 25 14:04:44 2019
    Good ${greeting_time}, Charles!

    23 May 2019 23:13:36, you wrote to All:

    Wondering, I'm venturing into setting up my dial-up modem with linux,
    but since (if I read it correct) by default, alot of distros don't
    support them.

    I'd have to do something to my kernel.

    Very unlikely: the main problem is systemd, and it resides in the userspace.

    Can anybody point me to some help sites/blogs/videos I can use to set
    my modems up?

    If really necessary, I can make a video of `man mgetty` for you :-)

    I'm using Ubuntu 19.04 and I have a external 'linux compat' USB 56k modem(s).

    I guess you'd have lots of fuck^H^Hn...


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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Alexey Vissarionov on Sun May 26 04:06:16 2019
    Hello Alexey!

    25 May 19 14:04, you wrote to Charles Stephenson:

    Wondering, I'm venturing into setting up my dial-up modem with
    linux, but since (if I read it correct) by default, alot of
    distros don't support them.

    I'd have to do something to my kernel.

    Very unlikely: the main problem is systemd, and it resides in the userspace.

    This is another reason that I'm sticking with Slackware. No systemd garbage is used here.

    Andrew

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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to Mike Powell on Sun May 26 07:22:18 2019
    Re: Linux & Modems
    By: Mike Powell to CHARLES STEPHENSON on Fri May 24 2019 10:54 am

    I did not have to do anything to my kernel. I did have to hook up a USB
    to
    serial conversion cable to get my USR Sportster to work. Then all I had
    to
    do was tell sexpots which device to listen to. Sexpots answers the modem and then makes the telnet connection to the board, connecting the modem call to my dosemu session that runs my DOS bbs.

    I set the device in the sexpots.ini file. For my system, it
    is /dev/ttyUSB0.

    I have sexpots configured, I have my VOIP configured with a phone number (from my Google voice), I'll have to ad that /dev/ttyUSB0 as the dev that points to my modem. I can't remember how to redirect it to /dev/modem. I'll have to google that....
    Regards,
    KrUpTiOn
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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Andrew Leary on Sun May 26 08:27:00 2019
    Andrew Leary wrote to Alexey Vissarionov <=-

    I'd have to do something to my kernel.

    Very unlikely: the main problem is systemd, and it resides in the userspace.

    This is another reason that I'm sticking with Slackware. No
    systemd garbage is used here.

    Same here. Although I do wish Patrick would hurry up with
    v15.0... It's been nearly three years.



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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to Andrew Leary on Wed May 29 18:15:56 2019
    Re: Linux & Modems
    By: Andrew Leary to Alexey Vissarionov on Sun May 26 2019 04:06 am

    This is another reason that I'm sticking with Slackware. No systemd garbage is used here.

    I haven't had any issues with systemd, other than not knowing all the syntax' to use in it.
    Regards,
    KrUpTiOn
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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to Alexey Vissarionov on Wed May 29 18:22:49 2019
    Re: Linux & Modems
    By: Alexey Vissarionov to Charles Stephenson on Sat May 25 2019 02:04 pm

    Can anybody point me to some help sites/blogs/videos I can use to
    set my modems up?

    If really necessary, I can make a video of `man mgetty` for you :-)

    I'm using Ubuntu 19.04 and I have a external 'linux compat' USB 56k
    modem(s).

    I guess you'd have lots of fuck^H^Hn...

    I'll take the offer of the video :)

    I wonder if I can get linux (ubuntu) to work with modem in my laptop. I've been
    reading stuff about it, but it's a older I7 laptop (HP elitebook 8570p) with a built in modem. Would be cool if I could use my laptop to connect/test my BBS modems (if I get that far). This modem is a agere HDR modem. never heard of it
    myself but it looks like it was popular in a few older Dell laptops too Regards,
    KrUpTiOn
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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Charles Stephenson on Thu May 30 21:37:00 2019
    Good ${greeting_time}, Charles!

    29 May 2019 18:22:48, you wrote to me:

    Can anybody point me to some help sites/blogs/videos I can use to
    set my modems up?
    If really necessary, I can make a video of `man mgetty` for you :-)
    I'm using Ubuntu 19.04 and I have a external 'linux compat' USB 56k
    modem(s).
    I guess you'd have lots of fuck^H^Hn...
    I'll take the offer of the video :)

    Watch it with

    man mgetty | perl -e '$n=0; while(<>){print; ($n++>20) and sleep 1;}'


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  • From Steven Wolf@1:267/160 to Charles Stephenson on Thu May 30 14:52:59 2019
    Re: Linux & Modems
    By: Charles Stephenson to Alexey Vissarionov on Wed May 29 2019 06:22 pm

    I wonder if I can get linux (ubuntu) to work with modem in my laptop. I've connect/test my BBS modems (if I get that far). This modem is a agere HDR modem. never heard of it myself but it looks like it was popular in a few older Dell laptops too Regards,

    If it's Hayes compatable you should be fine.

    HusTler
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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to Alexey Vissarionov on Sat Jun 15 00:16:42 2019
    Re: Linux & Modems
    By: Alexey Vissarionov to Charles Stephenson on Thu May 30 2019 09:37 pm

    Watch it with

    man mgetty | perl -e '$n=0; while(<>){print; ($n++>20) and sleep 1;}'

    Thank you for the help! I'll be looking at that this weekend
    Regards,
    KrUpTiOn
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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to Steven Wolf on Sat Jun 15 00:48:00 2019
    Re: Linux & Modems
    By: Steven Wolf to Charles Stephenson on Thu May 30 2019 02:52 pm

    I wonder if I can get linux (ubuntu) to work with modem in my laptop.
    I've connect/test my BBS modems (if I get that far). This modem is a
    agere HDR modem. never heard of it myself but it looks like it was
    popular in a few older Dell laptops too Regards,

    If it's Hayes compatable you should be fine.


    The modem in my laptop is a built-in HDR modem. it's a agree brand. I DO have 2 external USB modems on my desktop that ar Hayes Comp. I've got to figure out how to get linux to see them...
    Regards,
    KrUpTiOn
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  • From Steven Wolf@1:267/160 to Charles Stephenson on Sun Jun 16 13:24:32 2019
    Re: Linux & Modems
    By: Charles Stephenson to Steven Wolf on Sat Jun 15 2019 12:48 am

    I wonder if I can get linux (ubuntu) to work with modem in my laptop.

    If it's Hayes compatable you should be fine.

    The modem in my laptop is a built-in HDR modem. it's a agree brand. I DO have 2 external USB modems on my desktop that ar Hayes Comp. I've got to figure out how to get linux to see them...
    Regards,
    KrUpTiOn

    Oh boy..Good luck with that. You need to check into the Ubuntu support boards and find a "Wizard" to help you. You'll need to find a compatable driver and most likely configure the settings yourself. Ubuntu gave me a hard time with my
    wifi card some years ago. Computers don't come with modems anymore. You might have to use a Windows driver. There's special software for Ubuntu that you can run to install windows drivers. Again.. search the Ubuntu support boards. Good
    luck.

    HusTler
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  • From Phillip Taylor@1:275/201.30 to Andrew Leary on Sun Nov 1 09:41:13 2020
    On Sat 25-May-2019 11:06p, Andrew Leary@1:320/219.0 said to Alexey Vissarionov:


    25 May 19 14:04, you wrote to Charles Stephenson:

    Wondering, I'm venturing into setting up my dial-up modem with
    linux, but since (if I read it correct) by default, alot of
    distros don't support them.

    Please keep in mind that the recommended init strings in the manual in most cases will not work if your trying to host a bbs system. You will have to play around with the init strings to get it to work.
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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Benny Pedersen on Thu Nov 5 01:22:22 2020
    Good ${greeting_time}, Benny!

    04 Nov 2020 03:42:18, you wrote to Phillip Taylor:

    Please keep in mind that the recommended init strings in the manual
    in most cases will not work if your trying to host a bbs system.
    You will have to play around with the init strings to get it to work.
    yes, it should be openrc or systemd

    Both are just a different sorts of faggotry...


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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Alexey Vissarionov on Fri Nov 6 03:51:42 2020
    Hello Alexey!

    05 Nov 2020 01:22, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    yes, it should be openrc or systemd
    Both are just a different sorts of faggotry...

    maybe, i am disapointed by commodore that allowed microsoft to deliver basic roms to commodore pets and c64 vic20 c128, this was perfect way of stoping better software in the case there was never any virus updates to roms software

    i had hoped to see fully dokumented asm code for basic roms so it could be developed updates to them, but maybe we would just have created basic patch software, hmm

    on the other side COMAL 80 was the best alternative, just not many that at that time of selling nobody know about, and who did, did not pay more attention to, it was also more expensive then the basic roms, but comal was inded programmed from asm coders that know more on how 6502 worked


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

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