• CHRS: UTF-8 4

    From Oli@2:280/464.47 to All on Sun Oct 20 15:29:48 2019
    Is it possible to send a correct CHRS kludge with jamnntpd. My jamnntpd server always uses
    ☺CHRS: UTF-8 2

    but the correct one would be
    ☺CHRS: UTF-8 4

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384.125 to Oli on Mon Oct 21 07:18:28 2019
    Hi! Oli,

    On 20 Oct 19 15:29, you wrote to All:

    Is it possible to send a correct CHRS kludge with jamnntpd. My
    jamnntpd server always uses ☺CHRS: UTF-8 2

    but the correct one would be
    ☺CHRS: UTF-8 4

    At present it isn't important. IIRC it relates to there being no known Fidonet software being sensitive to that 'level' value.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.11 to Oli on Mon Oct 21 08:20:07 2019
    Oli wrote:

    Is it possible to send a correct CHRS kludge with jamnntpd. My jamnntpd
    server
    always uses
    CHRS: UTF-8 2

    but the correct one would be
    CHRS: UTF-8 4

    There is no level 4 support in JamNNTPd. No one has bothered to fix
    that. But it really doesn't matter, everything works ok even with that
    "UTF-8 2" kludge.

    Btw, your JamNNTPd is sending only the first three letters of your name. :)

    'Tommi

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Oct 21 08:17:32 2019
    Oli wrote:

    Is it possible to send a correct CHRS kludge with jamnntpd. My jamnntpd server
    always uses
    CHRS: UTF-8 2

    but the correct one would be
    CHRS: UTF-8 4

    There is no level 4 support in JamNNTPd. No one has bothered to fix
    that. But it really doesn't matter, everything works ok even with that "UTF-8 2" kludge.

    Why have standards, if they are ignored anyway? ;)

    I already assumed that most software works fine with "UTF-8 2", but I was not sure and it didn't feel right to have a non-conforming kludge in the message. But if everyone says it's fine, I can relax.

    Btw, your JamNNTPd is sending only the first three letters of your name.
    :)

    It's not JamNTTPd fault, it uses the name from the From field. In another network I'm using my nickname. Maybe I need to use separate NNTP accounts for every network / different names. But why bother, everyone can read my messages and my full name is in the pointlist ;).

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384.125 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Oct 21 16:12:40 2019
    Hi! Tommi,

    On 10/21/2019 08:20 AM, you wrote to Oli:

    Btw, your JamNNTPd is sending only the first three letters of your name.
    :)

    In our locale, Oli is a natural contraction for Oliver. It seems to be possible elsewhere as well.

    OTOH I've always wondered what the apostrophe in 'Tommi is hiding, if not long form of your name. :)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to Paul Quinn on Mon Oct 21 09:58:14 2019

    Btw, your JamNNTPd is sending only the first three letters of your name. :)

    In our locale, Oli is a natural contraction for Oliver. It seems to be possible elsewhere as well.

    And the finnish word "oli" means "was". :)

    OTOH I've always wondered what the apostrophe in 'Tommi is hiding, if
    not long form of your name. :)

    Very long time when fidonet was alive in Finland, the was one guy whose nick was //Albert. He was also a point of mine. Those two first signs "//" mean a remark in a certain programming language. So I started to use the remark sign of BASIC. :)

    You may ignore everything behind "'" .:D

    'Tommi

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Paul Quinn on Mon Oct 21 09:16:49 2019
    Btw, your JamNNTPd is sending only the first three letters of your name. :)

    In our locale, Oli is a natural contraction for Oliver. It seems to be
    possible elsewhere as well.

    For some reason most people in our locale think Olli is the natural contraction, but Oli is used too.

    OTOH I've always wondered what the apostrophe in 'Tommi is hiding, if not
    long form of your name. :)

    Tommi is a common finish name. I guess it's already the long form of its given name. (Olli is also a common given name in Finland – in Germany it's mostly used as the short form of Oliver).

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384.125 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Oct 21 17:41:29 2019
    Hi! Tommi,

    On 10/21/2019 04:58 PM, you wrote:

    Very long time when fidonet was alive in Finland, the was one guy whose nick was //Albert. He was also a point of mine. Those two first signs
    "//" mean a remark in a certain programming language. So I started to
    use the remark sign of BASIC. :)

    You may ignore everything behind "'" .:D

    Ooh. Well in that case if you ever see ::Paul, you may do the same...

    (Using :: was my favourite way of doing MS-DOS BATch REMark statements. Using that sequence instead stopped command.com from parsing a line of comment beyond the REM, which it would still do.)

    ;)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Paul Quinn@2:250/1 to Oli on Mon Oct 21 17:46:16 2019
    Hi! Oli,

    On 10/21/2019 05:16 PM, you wrote:

    Tommi is a common finish name. I guess it's already the long form of its given name. (Olli is also a common given name in Finland – in Germany it's mostly used as the short form of Oliver).

    Cool, thanks. Don't try shortening mine. I just won't answer. 8-)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364.1 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Oct 21 09:54:16 2019
    Hello Tommi!

    21 Oct 19 09:58, you wrote to Paul Quinn:

    signs "//" mean a remark in a certain programming language. So I
    started to use the remark sign of BASIC. :)

    I remember that the remark in basic war REM
    Which basic are you referring to with "'" as remark short form?

    Ciao!
    Fabio

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  • From Oliver Thuns@2:280/464.47 to Fabio Bizzi on Mon Oct 21 10:05:55 2019

    signs "//" mean a remark in a certain programming language. So I
    started to use the remark sign of BASIC. :)

    I remember that the remark in basic war REM
    Which basic are you referring to with "'" as remark short form?

    Microsft QuickBasic (1985) ... Visual Basic ... VBScript

    In some FTN software config files it is ";"

    ;Oli

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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364.1 to Oliver Thuns on Mon Oct 21 10:24:12 2019
    Hello Oliver!

    21 Oct 19 10:05, you wrote to me:

    I remember that the remark in basic war REM
    Which basic are you referring to with "'" as remark short form?

    Microsft QuickBasic (1985) ... Visual Basic ... VBScript

    Many thanks, I worked only on HP Basic and C64 Basic. :)

    Ciao!
    Fabio

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  • From Oliver Thuns@2:280/464.47 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Oct 21 10:13:45 2019
    Hi Tommi!

    @PID: SoupGate-OS/2 v1.10 20190906
    ^^^^^
    Custom version or a new official release?

    I tried 1.05 on Linux some time ago, but there were some major problems (I cannot remember what it was - maybe a bug, maybe a stupid configuration error).

    @CHRS: UTF-8 4

    :)

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Fabio Bizzi on Mon Oct 21 14:14:59 2019
    Hello, Fabio Bizzi.
    On 21/10/2019 10.54 you wrote:

    Hello Tommi!
    21 Oct 19 09:58, you wrote to Paul Quinn:
    signs "//" mean a remark in a certain programming language. So I
    started to use the remark sign of BASIC. :)
    I remember that the remark in basic war REM
    Which basic are you referring to with "'" as remark short form?

    REM is ok too. Quickbasic and PDS by Microsoft at least accepts ' as a REM. I still have those in my OS/2 system. ;)


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    Tommi

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Oliver Thuns on Mon Oct 21 14:14:59 2019
    Hello, Oliver Thuns.
    On 21/10/2019 11.13 you wrote:

    Hi Tommi!
    @PID: SoupGate-OS/2 v1.10 20190906
    ^^^^^
    Custom version or a new official release?

    Custom, some cosmetic changes by me.

    I have run SG for ages.. in OS/2 of course.:D

    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    :)

    :)


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