• List of IPv6 nodes

    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Sat Feb 23 12:07:49 2019
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 23 Feb 2019


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f PO4
    4 2:240/1661 Markus Reschke Native DTAG f DOWN
    5 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    6 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    7 2:221/0 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    8 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    9 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    10 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    11 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
    12 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    13 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    14 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    16 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    17 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4 Westlan
    19 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native IMPNET
    20 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    21 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    22 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    23 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    24 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    25 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    26 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native Aruba S.p.a f
    27 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    28 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    29 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    30 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    31 2:5005/33 Evgeny Zyatkov Native RUCITYCONNECT f
    32 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    33 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    34 2:2443/1313 Dirk Astrath Native VOLMARNET
    35 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    36 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    37 1:214/22 Ray Quinn T-6to4 AT&T f
    38 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    39 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith Native Qwest
    40 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    41 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    42 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    43 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native OVH DOWN
    44 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    45 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    46 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    47 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    48 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    49 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 Novator
    50 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Choopa
    51 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Comm
    52 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    53 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    54 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    55 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    56 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    57 2:400/2992 Avshalom Donskoi Native OVH f PM*1
    58 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    59 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    60 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    61 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    62 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native VPSVILLE f
    63 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    64 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    65 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    66 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    67 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    68 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    69 1:340/201 Michael Pierce Native ComCast
    70 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    71 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    72 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    73 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    74 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    75 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    76 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    77 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Belgacom OO
    78 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    79 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga

    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.
    *1 IPv6 address: 2001:41d0:303:69c6:f1d0:2:400:2992


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Mar 13 10:04:39 2019
    MvdV> 15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO

    Maybe a temporary glitch. Someone else may want to try it:

    + 13 Mar 09:57:39 [4880] call to 3:712/848@fidonet
    13 Mar 09:57:44 [4880] trying sysgod.org [2001:470:480f:fc10::4]...
    ? 13 Mar 09:58:05 [4880] connection to 3:712/848@fidonet failed: {W32 API error 10060} Connection timed out
    13 Mar 09:58:05 [4880] trying sysgod.org [203.206.223.152]:24554...
    13 Mar 09:58:06 [4880] connected




    ..

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Björn Felten on Wed Mar 13 05:46:22 2019
    Hello Bj”rn!

    13 Mar 19 10:04, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> 15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet
    MvdV>> f IO

    Maybe a temporary glitch. Someone else may want to try it:

    + 13 Mar 09:57:39 [4880] call to 3:712/848@fidonet
    13 Mar 09:57:44 [4880] trying sysgod.org [2001:470:480f:fc10::4]...
    ? 13 Mar 09:58:05 [4880] connection to 3:712/848@fidonet failed: {W32
    API error 10060} Connection timed out 13 Mar 09:58:05 [4880] trying sysgod.org [203.206.223.152]:24554... 13 Mar 09:58:06 [4880] connected

    It seems it was, as I just connected there via IPv6.

    Andrew

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Bj÷rn Felten on Wed Mar 13 11:22:30 2019
    Hi Björn!

    13 Mar 2019 10:04, from Björn Felten -> Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> 15 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet
    Maybe a temporary glitch. Someone else may want to try it:
    + 13 Mar 09:57:39 [4880] call to 3:712/848@fidonet
    13 Mar 09:57:44 [4880] trying sysgod.org [2001:470:480f:fc10::4]...
    ? 13 Mar 09:58:05 [4880] connection to 3:712/848@fidonet failed: {W32
    API error 10060} Connection timed out 13 Mar 09:58:05 [4880] trying sysgod.org [203.206.223.152]:24554... 13 Mar 09:58:06 [4880] connected

    Looks good here:
    + 11:22 [4908] call to 3:712/848@fidonet
    11:22 [4908] trying ftn.sysgod.org [2001:4479:cbce:df9b:f1d0:3:712:848]...
    11:22 [4908] connected
    + 11:22 [4908] outgoing session with ftn.sysgod.org:24554 [2001:4479:cbce:df9b:f1d0:3:712:848]

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Tue Mar 26 14:42:20 2019
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 24 Mar 2019


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f PO4
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/0 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    8 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    9 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    10 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky T-6in4 he.net
    11 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    12 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    13 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    14 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    15 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    16 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    17 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4 Westlan
    18 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native IMPNET
    19 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    20 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    21 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    22 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    23 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    24 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    25 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native Aruba S.p.a f
    26 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    27 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    28 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    29 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    30 2:5005/33 Evgeny Zyatkov Native RUCITYCONNECT f
    31 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    32 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    33 2:2443/1313 Dirk Astrath Native VOLMARNET
    34 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    35 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    36 1:214/22 Ray Quinn T-6to4 AT&T f
    37 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    38 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith Native Qwest
    39 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    40 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    41 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    42 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    43 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    44 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    45 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    46 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    47 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 Novator
    48 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Choopa
    49 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Comm
    50 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    51 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    52 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    53 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    54 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    55 2:400/2992 Avshalom Donskoi Native OVH f PM*1
    56 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    57 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    58 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    59 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    60 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native VPSVILLE f
    61 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    62 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    63 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    64 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    65 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    66 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    67 1:340/201 Michael Pierce Native ComCast
    68 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    70 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    71 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    72 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    73 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    74 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    75 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Belgacom OO
    76 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    77 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga

    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.
    *1 IPv6 address: 2001:41d0:303:69c6:f1d0:2:400:2992


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Mon May 20 13:20:28 2019
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 20 May 2019


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f PO4
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4 Westlan
    17 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native IMPNET
    18 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    19 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    20 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    21 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    22 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    23 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    24 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native Aruba S.p.a f
    25 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    26 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    27 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    28 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    29 2:5005/33 Evgeny Zyatkov Native RUCITYCONNECT f 6DWN
    30 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    31 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    32 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    33 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    34 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    35 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith Native Qwest
    36 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    37 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    38 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    39 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    40 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    41 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    42 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6 6DWN
    43 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Choopa
    44 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    45 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    46 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    48 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net 6DWN
    49 2:400/2992 Avshalom Donskoi Native OVH f PM*1
    50 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    51 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    52 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    53 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    54 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native VPSVILLE f
    55 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    56 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    57 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    58 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    59 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    61 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    62 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    63 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    64 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    65 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    66 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    67 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    69 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Belgacom OO
    69 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    70 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    71 1:14/5 Jeff Smith Native Qwest

    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.
    *1 IPv6 address: 2001:41d0:303:69c6:f1d0:2:400:2992


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Alex Shuman@2:463/877 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Jun 3 05:27:54 2019

    x) Monday Apr 29, 2019, 22:26. Michiel van der Vlist ÄÄ Bj”rn Felten.

    MvdV> I had a closer look and could reduce the 6DWN's to 9. Still a lot
    MvdV> though. Two could be eliminated due to an errror in binkp.net. For
    MvdV> 5020/9696 and 463/877 the AAAA record appears in the host name as in the
    MvdV> nodelist, but not in binkp.net. Very odd.

    binkp.net web interface does not support AAAA records, that's why.

    Update failed: Host '2a0b:2bc0:ffff:21b:f1d0:2:463:877' not found

    Edit data for node 2:463/877

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    * Origin: Neon_#2, Kiev, Ukraine (2:463/877)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Alex Shuman on Fri Jun 7 00:46:26 2019
    Hello Alex!

    03 Jun 2019 05:27, Alex Shuman wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    binkp.net web interface does not support AAAA records, that's why.

    is this host a webinterface to edit nodelists ?

    Update failed: Host '2a0b:2bc0:ffff:21b:f1d0:2:463:877' not found

    oh dear

    Edit data for node 2:463/877

    put a static hostname into nodelist, change that ip on dns, job done, no need to wait to next weeks nodelist update


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Benny Pedersen on Fri Jun 7 15:28:00 2019
    On 06-07-19 00:46, Benny Pedersen wrote to Alex Shuman <=-

    put a static hostname into nodelist, change that ip on dns, job done,
    no need to wait to next weeks nodelist update

    That works, then binkp.ner uses CNAME, which can point to AAAA records.


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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Tony Langdon on Fri Jun 7 14:42:18 2019
    Hello Tony!

    07 Jun 2019 15:28, Tony Langdon wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    That works, then binkp.ner uses CNAME, which can point to AAAA
    records.

    +1


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Wed Jun 12 08:16:57 2019
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 12 June 2019


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f PO4
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4 Westlan
    17 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native IMPNET
    18 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    19 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    20 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    21 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    22 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    23 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    24 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    25 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    26 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    27 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    28 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    29 2:5005/33 Evgeny Zyatkov Native RUCITYCONNECT f 6DWN
    30 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    31 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    32 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    33 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    34 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    35 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith Native Qwest
    36 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    37 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    38 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    39 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    40 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    41 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    42 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6 6DWN
    43 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Choopa
    44 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    45 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    46 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    48 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net 6DWN
    49 2:400/2992 Avshalom Donskoi Native OVH f PM*1
    50 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    51 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    52 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    53 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    54 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native VPSVILLE f
    55 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    56 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    57 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    58 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    59 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    61 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    62 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    63 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    64 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    65 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    66 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    67 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    69 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Belgacom OO
    69 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    70 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    71 1:14/5 Jeff Smith Native Qwest
    72 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Communications


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.
    *1 IPv6 address: 2001:41d0:303:69c6:f1d0:2:400:2992


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Wed Jun 12 17:14:24 2019
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 12 June 2019


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f PO4
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4 Westlan
    17 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native IMPNET
    18 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    19 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    20 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    21 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    22 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    23 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    24 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    25 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    26 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    27 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    28 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    29 2:5005/33 Evgeny Zyatkov Native RUCITYCONNECT f 6DWN
    30 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    31 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    32 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    33 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    34 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    35 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith Native Qwest
    36 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    37 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    38 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    39 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    40 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    41 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    42 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    43 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Choopa
    44 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    45 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    46 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    48 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net 6DWN
    49 2:400/2992 Avshalom Donskoi Native OVH f PM*1
    50 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    51 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    52 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    53 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    54 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native VPSVILLE f
    55 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    56 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    57 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    58 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    59 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    61 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    62 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    63 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    64 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    65 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    66 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    67 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    69 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Belgacom OO
    69 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    70 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    71 1:14/5 Jeff Smith Native Qwest
    72 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Communications
    73 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband




    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.
    *1 IPv6 address: 2001:41d0:303:69c6:f1d0:2:400:2992


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Alex Shuman@2:463/877 to Benny Pedersen on Sat Jun 15 11:36:36 2019

    x) Friday Jun 07, 2019, 00:46. Benny Pedersen ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

    binkp.net web interface does not support AAAA records, that's why.
    is this host a webinterface to edit nodelists ?

    binkp.net DNS entries.

    Edit data for node 2:463/877
    put a static hostname into nodelist, change that ip on dns, job done,
    no need to wait to next weeks nodelist update

    I have it in nodelist already.

    Putting a CNAME in binkp.net instead of IP address will make it dependent on another DNS entry.

    --- Neon BBS Line 2, 570-57-80, 20:30-06:30. [bbs.ncc.org.ua]
    * Origin: Neon_#2, Kiev, Ukraine (2:463/877)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Alex Shuman on Mon Jun 17 01:49:36 2019
    Hello Alex!

    15 Jun 2019 11:36, Alex Shuman wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Putting a CNAME in binkp.net instead of IP address will make it
    dependent on another DNS entry.

    i just say avoid it to be endless changes of irex configs :)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.19.44-gentoo (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Mon Jun 17 14:01:00 2019
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 17 June 2019


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f PO4
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6to4 Westlan
    17 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native IMPNET
    18 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    19 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    20 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    21 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    22 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    23 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    24 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    25 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    26 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    27 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    28 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    29 2:5005/33 Evgeny Zyatkov Native RUCITYCONNECT f 6DWN
    30 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    31 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    32 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    33 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    34 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    35 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith Native Qwest
    36 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    37 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    38 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    39 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    40 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    41 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    42 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    43 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Choopa
    44 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    45 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    46 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    48 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    49 2:400/2992 Avshalom Donskoi Native OVH f PM*1
    50 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    51 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    52 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    53 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    54 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native VPSVILLE f
    55 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    56 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    57 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    58 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    59 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    61 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    62 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    63 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    64 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    65 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    66 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    67 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    69 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Belgacom OO
    69 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    70 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    71 1:14/5 Jeff Smith Native Qwest
    72 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Communications
    73 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband
    74 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native M-net



    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.
    *1 IPv6 address: 2001:41d0:303:69c6:f1d0:2:400:2992


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Fri Aug 2 15:29:39 2019
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 2 Aug 2019


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f PO4
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native IMPNET
    18 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    19 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    20 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    21 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    22 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    23 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    24 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    25 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    26 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    27 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    28 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    29 2:5005/33 Evgeny Zyatkov Native RUCITYCONNECT f 6DWN
    30 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    31 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    32 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    33 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    34 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    35 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    37 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    38 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    39 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    40 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    41 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    42 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    43 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    44 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    45 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    46 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    48 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    49 2:400/2992 Avshalom Donskoi Native OVH f PM*1
    50 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    51 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    52 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    53 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    54 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native VPSVILLE f
    55 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    56 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    57 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    58 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    59 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    61 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    62 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    63 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    64 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    65 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    66 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    67 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    69 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Belgacom OO
    69 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    70 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    71 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Communications
    72 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband
    73 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native M-net
    74 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    75 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN
    76 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    77 1:14/6 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    78 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    79 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET



    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.
    *1 IPv6 address: 2001:41d0:303:69c6:f1d0:2:400:2992


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Sat Sep 7 01:10:30 2019

    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 6 Sep 2019


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f PO4
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:301/812 Benoit Panizzon Native IMPNET
    18 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    19 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    20 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    21 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    22 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    23 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    24 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    25 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    26 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    27 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    28 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    29 2:5005/33 Evgeny Zyatkov Native RUCITYCONNECT f 6DWN
    30 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    31 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    32 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    33 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    34 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    35 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    37 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    38 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    39 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    40 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    41 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    42 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    43 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    44 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    45 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    46 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    48 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    49 2:400/2992 Avshalom Donskoi Native OVH f PM*1
    50 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    51 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    52 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    53 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    54 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native VPSVILLE f
    55 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    56 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    57 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    58 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    59 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    61 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    62 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    63 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    64 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    65 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    66 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    67 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    68 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    69 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    70 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    71 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Communications
    72 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband
    73 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native M-net
    74 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    75 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN
    76 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    77 1:14/6 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    78 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    79 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    80 2:240/100 Arno Klein Native OVH


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.
    *1 IPv6 address: 2001:41d0:303:69c6:f1d0:2:400:2992


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Oct 4 01:27:29 2019
    MvdV> 49 2:400/2992 Avshalom Donskoi Native OVH f PM*1

    Avshalom sent me a netmail. Just in case he did not sent a copy to the list keeper:


    Hello Bjorn!

    I must change VPS with my node and new provider has no IPv6. So, I ask you delete my system from IPv6 list on the FidoNews.

    Regards, Avshalom Donskoi




    ..

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    * Origin: news://eljaco.se (2:203/2)
  • From Alexander Kruglikov@2:5053/58 to Björn Felten on Fri Oct 4 08:54:26 2019
    Good ${greeting_time}, Bj”rn!

    04 Oct 19 01:27, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> 49 2:400/2992 Avshalom Donskoi Native OVH f PM*1
    Avshalom sent me a netmail. Just in case he did not sent a copy to
    the list keeper:
    Hello Bjorn!
    I must change VPS with my node and new provider has no IPv6. So, I ask
    you delete my system from IPv6 list on the FidoNews.
    Regards, Avshalom Donskoi

    It's very sad. Is strange that in our imperfect world there are still providers that do not provide IPv6 on VPS/VDS.

    With best regards, Alexander.

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    * Origin: 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case, Hmmm... (2:5053/58)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Fri Oct 4 10:47:42 2019
    Hello Bj”rn,

    On Friday October 04 2019 01:27, you wrote to me:

    Avshalom sent me a netmail. Just in case he did not sent a copy to
    the list keeper:

    He did not...

    I must change VPS with my node and new provider has no IPv6. So, I ask
    you delete my system from IPv6 list on the FidoNews.

    Ack.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Alexander Kruglikov on Fri Oct 4 11:13:31 2019
    Hello Alexander,

    On Friday October 04 2019 08:54, you wrote to Bjrn Felten:

    It's very sad. Is strange that in our imperfect world there are still providers that do not provide IPv6 on VPS/VDS.

    Sad indeed.

    What I find even more sad is that Fidonet seems to have lost its pioneer spirit. The number of IPv6 nodes in Fidonet has been hovering around 80 for the last year. It is no longer growing. Some come, some go.

    Those that are supposed to lead by example and help in "Encouraging new technologies in Fidonet software development" are letting us down.

    Of the 14 FTSC members only 5 support IPv6 one way or another.

    Of the 4 ZCs, one support Ipv6 outgoing only, another one supports incoming only. So one out of four efectively.

    Of 31 RCs 5 support IPv6.

    I have come across sysops who's provider offers IPv6 but they refuse to make use of it. IPv6 is too fat and too complicated and it is not needed they say. :(



    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Alexander Kruglikov@2:5053/58 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Oct 4 13:42:00 2019
    Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

    *** Answering a msg posted in area CarbonArea (Œë«ìæ¥ ¤«ï ¬¥­ï).

    04 Oct 19 11:13, you wrote to me:

    It's very sad. Is strange that in our imperfect world there are still
    providers that do not provide IPv6 on VPS/VDS.
    MvdV> Sad indeed.

    Now, i'm completely sad =( Went to drink vodka and feed the bear ...

    With best regards, Alexander.

    --- "GoldED+/BSD 1.1.5-b20180707" ---
    * Origin: 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case, Hmmm... (2:5053/58)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Alexander Kruglikov on Fri Oct 4 18:48:00 2019
    On 10-04-19 08:54, Alexander Kruglikov wrote to Bj”rn Felten <=-

    It's very sad. Is strange that in our imperfect world there are still providers that do not provide IPv6 on VPS/VDS.

    If push comes to shove, there's always he.net for a tunnel. :)


    ... Die, my dear doctor? That's the last thing I shall do.
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  • From Alexander Kruglikov@2:5053/58 to Tony Langdon on Fri Oct 4 15:13:44 2019
    Good ${greeting_time}, Tony!

    *** Answering a msg posted in area CarbonArea (Œë«ìæ¥ ¤«ï ¬¥­ï).

    04 Oct 19 18:48, you wrote to me:

    It's very sad. Is strange that in our imperfect world there are still
    providers that do not provide IPv6 on VPS/VDS.
    If push comes to shove, there's always he.net for a tunnel. :)

    In Russia i use the broker http://ipv6.ip4market.ru/ =)

    With best regards, Alexander.

    --- "GoldED+/BSD 1.1.5-b20180707" ---
    * Origin: 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case, Hmmm... (2:5053/58)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Alexander Kruglikov on Fri Oct 4 21:26:00 2019
    On 10-04-19 15:13, Alexander Kruglikov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Good ${greeting_time}, Tony!

    *** Answering a msg posted in area CarbonArea (Œë«ìæ¥ ¤«ï ¬¥­ï).

    04 Oct 19 18:48, you wrote to me:

    It's very sad. Is strange that in our imperfect world there are still
    providers that do not provide IPv6 on VPS/VDS.
    If push comes to shove, there's always he.net for a tunnel. :)

    In Russia i use the broker http://ipv6.ip4market.ru/ =)

    Whichever works. :) Not a lot of choice down here in Australia, but fortunately, I have native IPv6. :)


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  • From Alexander Kruglikov@2:5053/58 to Tony Langdon on Fri Oct 4 15:59:24 2019
    Good ${greeting_time}, Tony!

    *** Answering a msg posted in area CarbonArea (Œë«ìæ¥ ¤«ï ¬¥­ï).

    04 Oct 19 21:26, you wrote to me:

    It's very sad. Is strange that in our imperfect world there are
    still providers that do not provide IPv6 on VPS/VDS.
    If push comes to shove, there's always he.net for a tunnel. :)
    In Russia i use the broker http://ipv6.ip4market.ru/ =)
    Whichever works. :) Not a lot of choice down here in Australia, but fortunately, I have native IPv6. :)

    Yes, i also have native IPv6 almost everywhere.
    (With blackjack and hookers (c) ) =))))

    But perhaps this information will help someone and come in handy.

    With best regards, Alexander.

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Oct 4 08:56:00 2019
    Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Alexander Kruglikov <=-

    It's very sad. Is strange that in our imperfect world there are still providers that do not provide IPv6 on VPS/VDS.

    Sad indeed.

    I don't find it "sad", just "reality". I have no option to
    get/use IPv6 here where I live. It's not offered by any ISP that
    I know of.

    I have come across sysops who's provider offers IPv6 but they
    refuse to make use of it. IPv6 is too fat and too complicated and
    it is not needed they say. :(

    Well, it's not actually *needed*, is it? Fidonet is working just
    fine here on IPv4, just as it always has.

    Most people (including me) don't care. When the v4's run out,
    things will be different. For now..... it's not needed.



    ... She kept saying I didn't listen to her, or something like that.
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Dan Clough on Fri Oct 4 21:44:01 2019
    Hello Dan,

    On Friday October 04 2019 08:56, you wrote to me:

    Sad indeed.

    I don't find it "sad", just "reality".

    So let's call it the "sad reality".

    I have no option to get/use IPv6 here where I live. It's not offered
    by any ISP that I know of.

    When there is a want, there is a way. There is an option.

    1) As others have mentioned you could use a tunnel. For you he.net may be the best choice. They offer 6in4 tunnels as a free service.

    2) If your ISP does not offer IPv6 yet, you should make noise.

    I have come across sysops who's provider offers IPv6 but they
    refuse to make use of it. IPv6 is too fat and too complicated
    and it is not needed they say. :(

    Well, it's not actually *needed*, is it? Fidonet is working just
    fine here on IPv4, just as it always has.

    It isn't /needed/ yet, but it will be needed in the foreseeable future. But then again, Fidonet itself is not "needed". Fidonet ios a hobby created by pioneers. Since when are pioneers stopped by "lack of perceived need"? What happened to that pioneer spirit?

    Most people (including me) don't care.

    That is the sad part. That uncle Joe does not care does not matter. That Fidoenet sysops - supposedly pioneers - don't care is sad.

    When the v4's run out, things will be different.

    The IPv4 addresses HAVE run out. Years ago.

    Projected RIR Address Pool Exhaustion Dates:

    RIR Exhaustion Date Remaining Addresses in RIR Pool (/8s)
    APNIC: 19-Apr-2011 0.1881
    RIPE NCC:14-Sep-2012 0.0575
    LACNIC: 10-Jun-2014 0.0231
    ARIN: 24 Sep-2015 0.0002
    AFRINIC: 20-Feb-2020 0.2240

    The difference with oil is that the numbers are not burned. Whatever is there remains usable. But there is no way one get get more of them.

    For now..... it's not needed.

    "We don't need a telephone system, we have an excellent system of messenger boys".


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Alexander Kruglikov on Sat Oct 5 11:04:00 2019
    On 10-04-19 15:59, Alexander Kruglikov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Good ${greeting_time}, Tony!

    *** Answering a msg posted in area CarbonArea (Œë«ìæ¥ ¤«ï ¬¥­ï).

    04 Oct 19 21:26, you wrote to me:

    It's very sad. Is strange that in our imperfect world there are
    still providers that do not provide IPv6 on VPS/VDS.
    If push comes to shove, there's always he.net for a tunnel. :)
    In Russia i use the broker http://ipv6.ip4market.ru/ =)
    Whichever works. :) Not a lot of choice down here in Australia, but fortunately, I have native IPv6. :)

    Yes, i also have native IPv6 almost everywhere.
    (With blackjack and hookers (c) ) =))))

    Only place I don't have native IPv6 is on mobile Internet (4G, etc). However, I could route some of my address range to the phone via a tunnel (probably a VPN). I have a /56 to play with, and I'm currently only using a /64 of it. :)

    But perhaps this information will help someone and come in handy.

    Indeed.


    ... MODEM? I've been calling this BBS with a Tarot deck.
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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Tony Langdon on Sat Oct 5 10:34:48 2019
    Hi Tony.

    05 Oct 19 11:04, you wrote to Alexander Kruglikov:

    Only place I don't have native IPv6 is on mobile Internet (4G, etc).

    It is the opposite here. I have native ipv6 on mobile but not in the DSL. :)

    'Tommi

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Oct 5 19:24:00 2019
    On 10-05-19 10:34, Tommi Koivula wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Hi Tony.

    05 Oct 19 11:04, you wrote to Alexander Kruglikov:

    Only place I don't have native IPv6 is on mobile Internet (4G, etc).

    It is the opposite here. I have native ipv6 on mobile but not in the
    DSL. :)

    AFAIK, you can't get IPv6 on mobile in Australia, but I'd like to be proven wrong. :)


    ... You can name your salary here, I call mine fred.
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  • From Deon George@3:633/509 to Tony Langdon on Sun Oct 6 21:46:03 2019
    Re: Re: List of IPv6 nodes
    By: Tony Langdon to Tommi Koivula on Sat Oct 05 2019 07:24 pm

    AFAIK, you can't get IPv6 on mobile in Australia, but I'd like to be
    proven wrong. :)

    I'll proove you wrong.

    Telstra are doing NAT64, just discovered that this week...
    ...ëîåã

    ... All things are possible. Except skiing through a revolving door.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Deon George on Mon Oct 7 08:28:00 2019
    On 10-06-19 21:46, Deon George wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Re: Re: List of IPv6 nodes
    By: Tony Langdon to Tommi Koivula on Sat Oct 05 2019 07:24 pm

    AFAIK, you can't get IPv6 on mobile in Australia, but I'd like to be
    proven wrong. :)

    I'll proove you wrong.

    Thanks, now I hope to prove you right. :)

    Telstra are doing NAT64, just discovered that this week...

    Hmm, I'll have to check my Telstra mobile, and see if it shows IPv6. :) If not, have to work out how to get it on IPv6. :)


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  • From Deon George@3:633/509 to Tony Langdon on Mon Oct 7 09:51:59 2019
    Re: Re: List of IPv6 nodes
    By: Tony Langdon to Deon George on Mon Oct 07 2019 08:28 am

    AFAIK, you can't get IPv6 on mobile in Australia, but I'd like to be
    proven wrong. :)
    I'll proove you wrong.
    Thanks, now I hope to prove you right. :)

    No need.
    ...ëîåã

    ... Hindsight is an exact science.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Deon George on Mon Oct 7 09:41:00 2019
    On 10-06-19 21:46, Deon George wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Re: Re: List of IPv6 nodes
    By: Tony Langdon to Tommi Koivula on Sat Oct 05 2019 07:24 pm

    AFAIK, you can't get IPv6 on mobile in Australia, but I'd like to be
    proven wrong. :)

    I'll proove you wrong.

    Telstra are doing NAT64, just discovered that this week...
    ...ëîå*

    Further to this, it appears that the 4G interface on my phone does get a set of
    public IPs (2001:8004:19b8:c12f::/64 prefix, by the looks of it). Cool! As I said, I'm glad to be proven wrong in this instance. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Deon George on Mon Oct 7 10:35:00 2019
    On 10-07-19 09:51, Deon George wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Re: Re: List of IPv6 nodes
    By: Tony Langdon to Deon George on Mon Oct 07 2019 08:28 am

    AFAIK, you can't get IPv6 on mobile in Australia, but I'd like to be
    proven wrong. :)
    I'll proove you wrong.
    Thanks, now I hope to prove you right. :)

    No need.

    Well, looks like I have proven you right, see my previous message. :)


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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Dan Clough on Sun Oct 20 19:25:12 2019
    Hi Dan!

    04 Oct 2019 08:56, from Dan Clough -> Michiel van der Vlist:

    Sad indeed.
    I don't find it "sad", just "reality".

    It is both.
    Reality AND definitely sad!

    I have no option to get/use IPv6 here where I live. It's not offered
    by any ISP that I know of.

    Yeah ... see above ... very sad indeed!

    Well, it's not actually *needed*, is it? Fidonet is working just
    fine here on IPv4, just as it always has.

    That depends.
    If you have a CGNNAT IPv4 you can only make outgoing connections. (you are NOT reachable by others!!)
    If you have IPv6 only you have NO connection to any IPv4 only node.

    Most people (including me) don't care. When the v4's run out,
    things will be different. For now..... it's not needed.

    IPv4 HAS run out!!!
    New ISPs only receive an emergency IPv4 allocation. (/22 I think).

    CU, Ricsi

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    * Origin: But I thought YOU did the backups... (2:310/31)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Oct 20 19:51:22 2019
    Hello Richard,

    On Sunday October 20 2019 19:25, you wrote to Dan Clough:

    IPv4 HAS run out!!!
    New ISPs only receive an emergency IPv4 allocation. (/22 I think).

    Nope. That last reserve has run out as well. At least here in RIPE territory.

    = IPV6 (2:280/5555) ===========================================================
    Msg : 6629 of 6654 Snt Loc
    From : Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 Thu 03 Oct 2019 15:37
    To : All
    Subj : RIPE running out of last contigues /22 IPv4 =============================================================================== Hello All,

    https://preview.tinyurl.com/y5ghv7eb

    Today we allocated the last of our contiguous /22 IPv4 address blocks. We still
    have approximately one million addresses available, in the form of /23s and /24s, and we will continue making /22-equivalent allocations made up of these smaller blocks. Once we can no longer allocate the equivalent of a /22, we will
    announce that we have reached run-out. We expect this to occur in November 2019.

    Following our last update in August, we received a very high number of new LIR applications. We have now reached a point where the number of LIRs waiting to be activated is larger than the number of /22-equivalents remaining. This means
    that some of these LIRs will only be eligible to request a /24 via the waiting list by the time they are activated. We alerted these applicants to this possibility during the application process.

    Due to the number of new LIR applications still to be processed, we estimate that it could be around eight weeks before we get to an application that is submitted today. To ensure fairness, we are processing all LIR applications (and IPv4 requests) in the order they were received.

    It is important to note that the delay is only with LIR applications - not IPv4
    requests. Existing members can still request their final /22 allocations, provided we still have addresses available.
    More information:


    Cheers, Michiel

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    # Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Oct 20 20:08:42 2019
    Hi Michiel!

    20 Oct 2019 19:51, from Michiel van der Vlist -> Richard Menedetter:

    New ISPs only receive an emergency IPv4 allocation.
    (/22 I think).
    Nope. That last reserve has run out as well. At least here in RIPE territory.

    Yeah ... that was the press release I had in mind.
    What I did not remember is that the /22 will be fragmented, and that they do not have enough IPs to allocate /22 equvivalents to all that requested it.

    But to be honest having 1k or 256 IPv4 is not a huge difference.
    Both are extremely few ;)

    CU, Ricsi

    ... Conscience is the inner voice that warns us somebody is looking.
    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: I'd prefer the non-smoking lifeboat, please. (2:310/31)
  • From Peter Khanin@2:5083/444.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Nov 22 06:41:22 2019
    Hi, Michiel!

    Native Qwest 6DWN 37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin
    Native OVH 6DWN

    Why is that?

    Best regards - Peter
    --- GoldED-NSF/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-20090710
    * Origin: Homelabs (2:5083/444.1)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Peter Khanin on Fri Nov 22 00:56:34 2019
    Hello Peter,

    On Friday November 22 2019 06:41, you wrote to me:

    Native Qwest 6DWN 37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin
    Native OVH 6DWN

    Why is that?

    Why is what? That you were removed fom the list? That is because the host name published in the nodelist does not have an AAAA record any more so your node is not reachable via IPv6. If your node supports IPv6, please have the DNS for thw hostame in the nodelist updated to reflect the actual situation.

    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Peter Khanin@2:5083/444.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Nov 22 15:06:36 2019
    Hi, Michiel!

    Native Qwest 6DWN 37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin
    Native OVH 6DWN
    Why is that?

    Why is what? That you were removed fom the list? That is because the
    host name published in the nodelist does not have an AAAA record any
    more so your node is not reachable via IPv6. If your node supports
    IPv6, please have the DNS for thw hostame in the nodelist updated to reflect the actual situation.

    I just wonder because nobody touched bind's settings... I didn't know why my node was added and why it was removed now. Now I fixed the settings so that:

    Server: dns.google
    Address: 8.8.8.8

    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: f444.n5083.z2.homelabs.org
    Addresses: 2607:5300:100:200::d88
    167.114.36.232

    Is this Okay?

    Thanks - Peter
    --- GoldED-NSF/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-20090710
    * Origin: Homelabs (2:5083/444.1)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Peter Khanin on Fri Nov 22 10:45:39 2019
    Hello Peter,

    On Friday November 22 2019 15:06, you wrote to me:

    Why is what? That you were removed fom the list? That is because
    the host name published in the nodelist does not have an AAAA
    record any more so your node is not reachable via IPv6. If your
    node supports IPv6, please have the DNS for thw hostame in the
    nodelist updated to reflect the actual situation.

    I just wonder because nobody touched bind's settings... I didn't know
    why my node was added and why it was removed now. Now I fixed the
    settings so that:

    Server: dns.google
    Address: 8.8.8.8

    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: f444.n5083.z2.homelabs.org
    Addresses: 2607:5300:100:200::d88
    167.114.36.232

    I don't know exactly what happened, but it works now. You node is reachable by IPv6 again. So I have put you back on the list. On your original place #37.

    Thanks for reporting.


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Sun Nov 24 15:54:26 2019
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 24 Nov 2019


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f PO4
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083 /444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    38 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    41 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    42 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    43 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    44 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    45 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    48 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    49 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    50 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    51 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    52 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native VPSVILLE f
    53 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    54 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    55 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    56 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    57 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    58 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    59 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    61 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    62 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    63 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    64 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    65 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    66 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    67 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    68 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    69 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Communications
    70 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband
    71 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia
    72 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    73 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN
    74 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    75 1:14/6 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    76 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    77 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    78 2:240/100 Arno Klein Native OVH
    79 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    80 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    81 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T6to4 NOVATOR


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Fri Nov 29 14:40:00 2019
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 29 Nov 2019


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f PO4
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083 /444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    38 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    41 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    42 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    43 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    44 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    45 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    48 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    49 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    50 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    51 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    52 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native VPSVILLE f
    53 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    54 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    55 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    56 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    57 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    58 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    59 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    61 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    62 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    63 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    64 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    65 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    66 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    67 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    68 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    69 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Communications
    70 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband
    71 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia
    72 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    73 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN
    74 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    75 1:14/6 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    76 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    77 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    78 2:240/100 Arno Klein Native OVH
    79 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    80 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    81 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T6to4 NOVATOR
    82 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    83 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Mative Hetzner


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Nov 29 16:23:56 2019

    Hi Michiel.

    29 Nov 19 14:40:00, you wrote to All:

    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555
    Updated 29 Nov 2019

    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f

    I haven't checked your list for a long time but this should be:

    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OVH

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: - rbb.fidonet.fi - Finland - (2:221/360)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Fri Nov 29 15:48:35 2019
    Hello Tommi,

    On Friday November 29 2019 16:23, you wrote to me:

    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f

    I haven't checked your list for a long time but this should be:

    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OVH

    Check!


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Sat Feb 15 16:48:34 2020
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 15 Feb 2020


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OH f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    38 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    41 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    42 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    43 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    44 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    45 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    48 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    49 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    50 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    51 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    52 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native VPSVILLE f
    53 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    54 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    55 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    56 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    57 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    58 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    59 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    61 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    62 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    63 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    64 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    65 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    66 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    67 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    68 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    69 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Communications
    70 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband
    71 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia
    72 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    73 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN
    74 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    75 1:14/6 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    76 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    77 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    78 2:240/100 Arno Klein Native OVH
    79 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    80 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    81 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    82 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    83 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Mative Hetzner
    84 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native IT-ALBACOM
    85 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native SYN LTD PM *1)
    86 2:5020/843 Peter Antonov Native BelCloud
    87 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER
    88 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER f
    89 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    *1) endofthelinebbs.com

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.

    Submitted on day XXXX
    === Cut ===
    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Fri Mar 6 23:31:59 2020

    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 6 Mar 2020


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OH f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    38 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    41 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    42 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    43 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    44 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    45 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    48 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    49 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    50 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    51 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    52 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native VPSVILLE f
    53 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    54 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    55 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    56 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    57 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    58 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    59 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    61 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    62 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    63 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    64 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    65 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    66 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    67 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    68 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    69 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Communications
    70 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband
    71 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia
    72 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    73 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN
    74 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    75 1:14/6 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    76 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    77 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    78 2:240/100 Arno Klein Native OVH
    79 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    80 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    81 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    82 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    83 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    84 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native IT-ALBACOM
    85 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native SYN LTD PM *1)
    86 2:5020/843 Peter Antonov Native BelCloud
    87 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER
    88 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER f
    89 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    90 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DigitalOcean
    91 1:153/146 Erich Bublitz Native LINODE-US


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    *1) endofthelinebbs.com

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Mar 7 19:22:02 2020
    On 06/03/2020 5:31 p.m., Michiel van der Vlist : All wrote:

         Node Nr.     Sysop                  Type   
    Provider      Remark

      1  2:280/464    Wilfred van Velzen     Native 
    Xs4All        f
      2  2:280/5003   Kees van Eeten         Native 
    Xs4All        f
      3  2:5019/40    Konstantin Kuzov       T-6in4 
    he.net        f
      4  2:280/5555   Michiel van der Vlist  Native  Ziggo           5  1:320/219    Andrew Leary           Native 
    Comcast       f
      6  2:221/1      Tommi Koivula          T-6in4 
    he.net        f
      7  2:221/6      Tommi Koivula          Native 
    OH            f
      8  2:5053/54    Denis Mikhlevich       Native  TTK-Volga
      9  2:5030/257   Vova Uralsky           Native  PCextreme

    Hi Michiel!

    A suggestion. Flip the order of the list, then the growth or newest additions would be noticeable right away, otherwise it's too easy to just skip the post and not bother scrolling down.

    91 1:153/146 Erich Bublitz Native LINODE-US
    90 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DigitalOcean
    89 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    88 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER f
    87 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER
    86 2:5020/843 Peter Antonov Native BelCloud
    85 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native SYN LTD PM *1)
    84 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native IT-ALBACOM
    83 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    82 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    81 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    80 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    79 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    78 2:240/100 Arno Klein Native OVH
    77 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    76 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    75 1:14/6 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net

    --- TB68.4.1/Win7
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Wed Apr 15 14:01:38 2020
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 15 Apr 2020


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OH f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6RD iiNet f IO
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    38 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST
    41 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    42 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    43 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    44 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    45 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    48 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    49 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    50 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    51 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    52 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    53 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    54 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    55 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    56 1 135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6
    57 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    58 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    59 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    61 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    62 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS
    63 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    64 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink
    65 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    66 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO DOWN
    67 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    68 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    69 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Communications
    70 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband
    71 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia
    72 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    73 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN
    74 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    75 1:14/6 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    76 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    77 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    78 2:240/100 Arno Klein Native OVH
    79 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    80 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    81 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    82 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    83 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    84 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native IT-ALBACOM
    85 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US
    86 2:5020/843 Peter Antonov Native BelCloud
    87 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER
    88 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER f
    89 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    90 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DigitalOcean
    91 1:153/146 Erich Bublitz Native LINODE-US
    92 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up). If the destination address is a 6to4 tunnel address
    (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if an IPv4 address is present.


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Sun Aug 2 17:26:36 2020
    Hello All,

    I attempted to poll all the nodes in te list. The result was not encouraging. One node had dropped out of the nodelist. Three other nodes did not answer at all. 11 nodes did not answer on IPv6 but answered on IPv4.

    See next message.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Sun Aug 2 17:26:25 2020
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 2 Aug 2020


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OH f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET DOWN
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO 6DWN
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH 6DWN
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    39 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST 6DWN
    41 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    42 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    43 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    44 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    45 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    48 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    49 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    50 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    51 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    52 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    53 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    54 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    55 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    56 1:135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6 6DWN
    57 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    58 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    59 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    61 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    62 1:153/757 Alan Ianson Native TELUS 6DWN
    63 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    64 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink 6DWN
    65 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    66 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    67 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f 6DWN
    68 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    69 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Cmmunctns 6DWN
    70 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband 6DWN
    71 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia
    72 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    73 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN 6DWN
    74 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    75 1:14/6 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net DOWN
    76 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    77 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    78 2:240/100 Arno Klein Native OVH DOWN
    79 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    80 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    81 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    82 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    83 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    84 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native IT-ALBACOM
    85 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US 6DWN
    86 2:5020/843 Peter Antonov Native BelCloud
    87 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER DOWN
    88 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER f
    89 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    90 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DigitalOcean
    91 1:153/146 Erich Bublitz Native LINODE-US
    92 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    93 1:106/633 William Williams Native LINODE-US PM *1


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 [2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe2b:c319]

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Aug 3 10:32:45 2020
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2020-08-02 17:26:25, you wrote to All:

    MvdV> 75 1:14/6 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net DOWN

    I noticed that Jeff posted a message in an echomail area, so I decided to test his node. 1:14/6 Doesn't exist anymore in the nodelist, so I tested 1:14/0, which has an IPv6 address, with the following result:

    + 03 Aug 10:19:03 [10843] call to 1:14/0@fidonet
    03 Aug 10:19:03 [10843] trying ftn.region14.org [2001:470:1f10:abd::2]...
    03 Aug 10:19:03 [10843] connected
    + 03 Aug 10:19:03 [10843] outgoing session with ftn.region14.org:24554 [2001:470:1f10:abd::2]
    ? 03 Aug 10:19:05 [10843] got M_BSY: Blocked
    + 03 Aug 10:19:05 [10843] done (to 1:14/0@fidonet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    03 Aug 10:19:05 [10843] session closed, quitting...

    And I get the same on his regular node which has a different host name, but resolves to the same IPv6 address.

    Could be a misconfigured Mystic system, which by default blocks systems of which it doesn't have a secure link with...

    :-(


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Aug 3 10:51:45 2020
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Monday August 03 2020 10:32, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> 75 1:14/6 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    MvdV>> DOWN

    I noticed that Jeff posted a message in an echomail area, so I decided
    to test his node. 1:14/6 Doesn't exist anymore in the nodelist,

    Aha. I noticed that Arno Klein, 2:240/100 was no longer in the nodelist, but I missed 1:14/6. Tnx for pointing it out. I will remove him from the list.

    so I tested 1:14/0, which has an IPv6 address, with the following
    result:

    + 03 Aug 10:19:03 [10843] call to 1:14/0@fidonet
    03 Aug 10:19:03 [10843] trying ftn.region14.org [2001:470:1f10:abd::2]... 03 Aug 10:19:03 [10843] connected + 03 Aug 10:19:03 [10843] outgoing session with ftn.region14.org:24554 [2001:470:1f10:abd::2] ? 03 Aug 10:19:05 [10843] got M_BSY: Blocked +
    03 Aug 10:19:05 [10843] done (to 1:14/0@fidonet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes)) 03 Aug 10:19:05 [10843] session closed, quitting...

    And I get the same on his regular node which has a different host
    name, but resolves to the same IPv6 address.

    If it has the same IPv6 address and the same port nr, it is the same node. 1:282/1031 is in the list.

    Could be a misconfigured Mystic system, which by default blocks
    systems of which it doesn't have a secure link with...

    It isn't that. I have seen that before and it generates a different error. This is probably a busy flag that isn't cleared because of an irregular shut down.


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Aug 4 21:15:00 2020
    On 08-02-20 17:26, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All <=-

    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET DOWN

    I'm up and running. I did have a temporary glitch for a few hours the other day, due to a dead power board. Just had to plug into a different board to get
    power to the BBS again.

    Try again. :)


    ... Vegetarian ham now in chicken flavour?!?
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    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tony Langdon on Tue Aug 4 15:53:51 2020
    Hello Tony,

    On Tuesday August 04 2020 21:15, you wrote to me:

    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    DOWN

    I'm up and running. I did have a temporary glitch for a few hours the other day, due to a dead power board.

    More like a few days than a few hours...

    Just had to plug into a different board to get power to the BBS again.

    Good to see you'r back on line.

    Try again. :)

    Check. ;-)


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Tue Aug 4 16:06:34 2020
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OH f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO 6DWN
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH 6DWN
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    39 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST 6DWN
    41 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    42 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    43 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    44 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    45 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    48 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    49 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    50 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    51 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    52 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    53 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    54 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    55 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    56 1:135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6 6DWN
    57 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    58 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    59 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    61 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    62 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    63 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink 6DWN
    64 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    65 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    66 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    67 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    68 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Cmmunctns
    69 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband 6DWN
    70 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia
    71 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    72 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN 6DWN
    73 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    74 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    75 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    76 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    77 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    78 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    79 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    80 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    81 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native IT-ALBACOM
    82 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US
    83 2:5020/843 Peter Antonov Native BelCloud
    84 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER DOWN
    85 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER f
    86 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    87 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DigitalOcean
    88 1:153/146 Erich Bublitz Native LINODE-US
    89 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    90 1:106/633 William Williams Native LINODE-US PM *1
    91 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 [2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe2b:c319]

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


    Submitted on day XXXX
    === Cut ===
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Aug 4 16:51:58 2020
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2020-08-04 16:06:34, you wrote to All:

    MvdV> @MSGID: 2:280/5555 5f296bb2
    MvdV> @TID: FMail-W32 2.1.3.7-B20170919
    MvdV> @TZUTC: 0200
    MvdV> @CHRS: CP850 2
    MvdV> 3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    MvdV> 4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f

    There seem to be some lines missing!? ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Aug 4 19:28:03 2020
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Tuesday August 04 2020 16:51, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> 3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net
    MvdV>> f
    MvdV>> 4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo
    MvdV>> f

    There seem to be some lines missing!? ;)

    It is all right in the original file. Copy and paste error...

    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Tue Aug 4 19:28:35 2020
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 4 Aug 2020


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OH f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO 6DWN
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH 6DWN
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    39 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST 6DWN
    41 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    42 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    43 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    44 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    45 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    48 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    49 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    50 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    51 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    52 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    53 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    54 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    55 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    56 1:135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6 6DWN
    57 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    58 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    59 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    61 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    62 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    63 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink 6DWN
    64 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    65 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    66 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    67 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    68 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Cmmunctns
    69 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband 6DWN
    70 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia
    71 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    72 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN 6DWN
    73 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    74 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    75 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    76 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    77 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    78 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    79 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    80 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    81 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native IT-ALBACOM
    82 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US
    83 2:5020/843 Peter Antonov Native BelCloud
    84 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER DOWN
    85 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER f
    86 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    87 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DigitalOcean
    88 1:153/146 Erich Bublitz Native LINODE-US
    89 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    90 1:106/633 William Williams Native LINODE-US PM *1
    91 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 [2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe2b:c319]

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


    === Cut ===
    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Wed Aug 5 00:22:53 2020
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 5 Aug 2020


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OH f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO 6DWN
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH 6DWN
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    39 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST 6DWN
    41 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    42 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    43 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    44 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    45 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    48 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    49 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    50 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    51 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    52 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    53 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    54 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    55 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    56 1:135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6 6DWN
    57 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    58 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    59 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    61 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    62 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    63 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink 6DWN
    64 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    65 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    66 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    67 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    68 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Cmmunctns
    69 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband 6DWN
    70 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia
    71 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    72 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN 6DWN
    73 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    74 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    75 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    76 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    77 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    78 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    79 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    80 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    81 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native IT-ALBACOM
    82 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US
    83 2:5020/843 Peter Antonov Native BelCloud
    84 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER DOWN
    85 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER f
    86 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    87 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DigitalOcean
    88 1:153/146 Erich Bublitz Native LINODE-US
    89 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    90 1:106/633 William Williams Native LINODE-US PM *1
    91 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    92 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls)
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls)
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 [2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe2b:c319]

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


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  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Tony Langdon on Wed Aug 5 11:12:30 2020

    Hello Tony!

    04 Aug 20 21:15, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    DOWN

    I'm up and running. I did have a temporary glitch for a few hours the other day, due to a dead power board.

    It was more than a few hours! #-( But by the time I could send you a email, you'd hit the thing with a
    hammer.! %_)





    Stephen


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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Aug 5 03:49:12 2020
    Hello Michiel!

    02 Aug 2020 17:26, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

    MvdV> See next message.

    a real cliffhanger....


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Aug 5 03:53:00 2020
    Hello Wilfred!

    03 Aug 2020 10:32, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> 75 1:14/6 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net DOWN

    ? 03 Aug 10:19:05 [10843] got M_BSY: Blocked

    Could be a misconfigured Mystic system, which by default blocks
    systems of which it doesn't have a secure link with...

    telnet is hard, so thay disabled it in mystic for missing ipv6 match accepted address from caller id ?

    sure should be resolved its opensource and your problem :)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Aug 5 15:23:00 2020
    On 08-04-20 15:53, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I'm up and running. I did have a temporary glitch for a few hours the other day, due to a dead power board.

    More like a few days than a few hours...

    Hmm, now that is strange, I've been using it all this time, and mail has been moving.

    Just had to plug into a different board to get power to the BBS again.

    Good to see you'r back on line.

    Try again. :)

    Check. ;-)

    Cool. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stephen Walsh on Wed Aug 5 15:23:00 2020
    On 08-05-20 11:12, Stephen Walsh wrote to Tony Langdon <=-


    Hello Tony!

    04 Aug 20 21:15, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    DOWN

    I'm up and running. I did have a temporary glitch for a few hours the other day, due to a dead power board.

    It was more than a few hours! #-( But by the time I could send you a email, you'd hit the thing with a
    hammer.! %_)

    Hmm, very strange!


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tony Langdon on Wed Aug 5 09:44:45 2020
    Hello Tony,

    On Wednesday August 05 2020 15:23, you wrote to me:

    More like a few days than a few hours...

    Hmm, now that is strange, I've been using it all this time, and mail
    has been moving.

    Maybe outgoing was still working at your end, so mail was still flowing and you did not notice there was no incoming?

    Anyway, you are back, that is what counts.

    From FIDONEWS:

    Weird, was only down for no more than a few hours this end! However, there are possible circumstances that result in IPv4 going down, but
    IPv6 is much less likely to fall over.

    If it is only your IPv4 that goes down, I would not notice. My system tries IPv6 first, If IPv6 is up and running, IPv4 is never tried...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Wed Aug 5 09:53:18 2020
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 5 Aug 2020


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OH f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO 6DWN
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH 6DWN
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    39 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:5021/46 Dmitry Komissarov Native THEFIRST NO6
    41 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    42 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    43 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    44 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    45 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    47 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    48 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    49 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    50 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    51 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    52 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    53 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    54 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    55 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    56 1:135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6 6DWN
    57 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    58 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    59 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    60 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    61 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    62 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    63 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native Starlink NO6
    64 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    65 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    66 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny Native ARUBA-NET f
    67 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    68 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Cmmunctns
    69 2:250/5 Christian Sacks Native Sky Broadband NO6
    70 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia
    71 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    72 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN 6DWN
    73 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    74 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    75 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    76 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    77 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    78 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    79 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    80 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    81 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native IT-ALBACOM
    82 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US
    83 2:5020/843 Peter Antonov Native BelCloud
    84 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER DOWN
    85 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER f
    86 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    87 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DigitalOcean
    88 1:153/146 Erich Bublitz Native LINODE-US
    89 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    90 1:106/633 William Williams Native LINODE-US PM *1
    91 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    92 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 [2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe2b:c319]

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


    Submitted on day XXXX
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Aug 5 20:05:00 2020
    On 08-05-20 09:44, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Maybe outgoing was still working at your end, so mail was still flowing and you did not notice there was no incoming?

    Mail was coming in as well. :)

    If it is only your IPv4 that goes down, I would not notice. My system tries IPv6 first, If IPv6 is up and running, IPv4 is never tried...

    That's particularly weird. IPv6 is more stable, because it's native and there's only 1 IPv6 network here (other than a couple on ZeroTier), compared to
    3 IPv4 (plus ZeroTier) networks.


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tony Langdon on Wed Aug 5 12:54:39 2020
    Hello Tony,

    On Wednesday August 05 2020 20:05, you wrote to me:

    Maybe outgoing was still working at your end, so mail was still
    flowing and you did not notice there was no incoming?

    Mail was coming in as well. :)

    Incoming mail != incoming calls...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Aug 6 19:09:00 2020
    On 08-05-20 12:54, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-


    Mail was coming in as well. :)

    Incoming mail != incoming calls...

    True, so it's hard to tell sometimes. :)


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Thu Aug 6 13:11:51 2020
    Hello All,

    Wednesday August 05 2020 09:53, I wrote to you:

    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH 6DWN

    He's back.

    One of the problems with Dual Stack is that it can take a long time to notice something is wrong when IPv6 drops out. In almost all cases mail just keeps flowing via IPv4.

    One has to actually check (manually or by robot) if IPv6 is still fully functional...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Aug 7 17:40:00 2020
    On 08-06-20 13:11, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All <=-

    Hello All,

    Wednesday August 05 2020 09:53, I wrote to you:

    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH 6DWN

    He's back.

    One of the problems with Dual Stack is that it can take a long time to notice something is wrong when IPv6 drops out. In almost all cases mail just keeps flowing via IPv4.

    I've had the opposite happen, because my IPv6 is native and my IPv4 is
    unneled.


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tony Langdon on Fri Aug 7 11:47:04 2020
    Hello Tony,

    On Friday August 07 2020 17:40, you wrote to me:

    One of the problems with Dual Stack is that it can take a long
    time to notice something is wrong when IPv6 drops out. In almost
    all cases mail just keeps flowing via IPv4.

    I've had the opposite happen, because my IPv6 is native and my IPv4 is unneled.

    So your IPv4 is more vulnerable. But as the majority of active Fidonet is still IPv4 only, failing IPv4 would be noticed much sooner than failing IPv6 wouldn't it?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Aug 8 15:09:00 2020
    On 08-07-20 11:47, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    So your IPv4 is more vulnerable. But as the majority of active Fidonet
    is still IPv4 only, failing IPv4 would be noticed much sooner than failing IPv6 wouldn't it?

    Depends, some networks would go down, though both my Fido feed and busiest othernet both have IPv6 capability.


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tony Langdon on Sat Aug 8 09:13:50 2020
    Hello Tony,

    On Saturday August 08 2020 15:09, you wrote to me:

    So your IPv4 is more vulnerable. But as the majority of active
    Fidonet is still IPv4 only, failing IPv4 would be noticed much
    sooner than failing IPv6 wouldn't it?

    Depends, some networks would go down, though both my Fido feed and
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    busiest othernet both have IPv6 capability.

    Ah, there is another difference between you and me. I do not have just one Fidonet feed. I have about 30. Some of them have IPv6, but not all of them. Not by far. So failing IPv4 would be noticed pretty soon...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Sun Aug 30 23:48:03 2020
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 30 Aug 2020


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OH f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO 6DWN
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    39 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    41 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    42 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    43 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    44 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    45 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    47 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    48 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    49 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    50 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    51 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    52 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    53 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    54 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    55 1:135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6 6DWN
    56 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    57 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    58 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    59 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    60 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    61 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko T-6in4 he.net f
    62 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    63 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    64 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    65 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    66 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Cmmunctns
    67 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia
    68 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    69 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN 6DWN
    70 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    71 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    72 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    73 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    74 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    75 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    76 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    77 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    78 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native IT-ALBACOM
    79 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US
    80 2:5020/843 Peter Antonov Native BelCloud
    81 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER
    82 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER f
    83 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    84 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DigitalOcean
    85 1:153/146 Erich Bublitz Native LINODE-US
    86 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    87 1:106/633 William Williams Native LINODE-US PM *1
    88 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    89 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers
    90 1:142/103 Brian Rogers T-6in4 he.net
    91 1:342/17 Kostie Muirhead Native Hurricane El.


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 [2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe2b:c319]

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Fernando Toledo@4:902/26 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Sep 27 16:38:49 2020
    El 5/8/20 a las 04:53, Michiel van der Vlist escribió:

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.

    Very nice!, can i get these address using he.net tunnel?

    Saludos!
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: Dock Sud BBS - http://bbs.docksud.com.ar (4:902/26)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Fernando Toledo on Sun Sep 27 20:10:14 2020
    Hello Fernando!

    27 Sep 2020 16:38, Fernando Toledo wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.

    Very nice!, can i get these address using he.net tunnel?

    convence linode.com about it


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.8.11-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Fernando Toledo on Sun Sep 27 23:34:29 2020
    Hello Fernando,

    On Sunday September 27 2020 16:38, you wrote to me:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.

    Very nice!, can i get these address using he.net tunnel?

    Sure. Just manually configure such an address on the machine running your binkp server. Use the /64 prefix routed through the tunnel.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Fernando Toledo on Mon Sep 28 22:05:46 2020
    Hi Fernando!

    Sunday September 27 2020 16:38, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.

    Very nice!, can i get these address using he.net tunnel?

    Yes. You will get subnet /64 and can asign any address from it to ypur node.


    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Thu Oct 8 08:46:22 2020
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 8 Oct 2020


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OH f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO 6DWN
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    39 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    41 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    42 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    43 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    44 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    45 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    47 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    48 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    49 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    50 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    51 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    52 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    53 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    54 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    55 1:135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6 6DWN
    56 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    57 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    58 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    59 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    60 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    61 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko Native ER-Telecom f
    62 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    63 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    64 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    65 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    66 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Cmmunctns
    67 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia 6DWN
    68 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    69 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN 6DWN
    70 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    71 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    72 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    73 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    74 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    75 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    76 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    77 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    78 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native IT-ALBACOM
    79 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US
    80 2:5020/843 Peter Antonov Native BelCloud
    81 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER
    82 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER f
    83 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    84 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DigitalOcean
    85 1:153/146 Erich Bublitz Native LINODE-US
    86 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    87 1:106/633 William Williams Native LINODE-US PM *1
    88 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    89 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers
    90 1:142/103 Brian Rogers T-6in4 he.net
    91 1:342/17 Kostie Muirhead Native Hurricane El.
    92 2:280/2030 Martien Korenblom Native Transip
    93 3:633/509 Deon George Native Telstra


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 [2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe2b:c319]

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.



    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Fernando Toledo on Sun Oct 18 00:22:50 2020
    Hello Fernando,

    On Sunday September 27 2020 16:38, you wrote to me:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.

    Very nice!, can i get these address using he.net tunnel?

    Any progress?


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Mon Nov 16 14:52:13 2020
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 16 Nov 2020


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OH f
    8 2:5053/54 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    9 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    10 1:154/10 Nicholas Bo‰l Native Spectrum f
    11 2:203/0 Bj”rn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    12 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    13 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    14 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov Native Hetzner f
    15 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    16 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    17 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    18 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    19 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    20 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    21 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 1:282/1031 Jeff Smith T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native Hetzner
    35 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    36 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    37 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    38 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    39 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    41 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    42 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    43 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    44 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    45 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    46 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo T-6in4 he.net
    47 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    48 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f
    49 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    50 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    51 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    52 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    53 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    54 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    55 1:135/367 Antonio Rivera Native RRSW-V6 6DWN
    56 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    57 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    58 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net
    59 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    60 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    61 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko Native ER-Telecom f
    62 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native EkranTV f
    63 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus OO
    64 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    65 2:5053/400 Denis Mikhlevich Native TTK-Volga
    66 1:135/371 Eric Renfro Native Cox Cmmunctns
    67 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Unitymedia 6DWN
    68 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
    69 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN 6DWN
    70 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    71 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
    72 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    73 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    74 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    75 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    76 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    77 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    78 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native IT-ALBACOM
    79 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US
    80 2:5020/843 Peter Antonov Native BelCloud
    81 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER 6DWN
    82 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER f
    83 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    84 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DigitalOcean
    85 1:153/146 Erich Bublitz Native LINODE-US
    86 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    87 1:106/633 William Williams Native LINODE-US PM *1
    88 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    89 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers
    90 1:142/103 Brian Rogers T-6in4 he.net
    91 1:342/17 Kostie Muirhead Native Hurricane El.
    92 2:280/2030 Martien Korenblom Native Transip
    93 3:633/509 Deon George Native Telstra
    94 2:5020/4441 Yuri Myakotin Native SOVINTEL
    95 1:320/319 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    96 2:240/5824 Anna Christina Nass T-6in4 he.net


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    DOWN This node is temporarely down for both IPv4 and IPv6.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 [2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe2b:c319]

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.



    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Dec 19 13:17:48 2020
    Hi Michiel.

    18 Dec 20 21:12:52, you wrote to All:

    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OH f

    'OVH'. And no 'f'.

    'Tommi

    ... he.net certified sage
    --- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: IPv6 Point at [2001:470:1f15:cb0:2:221:1:1] (2:221/1.1)
  • From Victor Sudakov@2:5005/49 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jan 3 12:31:28 2021
    Dear Michiel,

    02 Jan 21 12:10, you wrote to All:
    58 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net

    Please set the "f" flag on my node.

    Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
    --- GoldED+/BSD 1.1.5-b20170303-b20170303
    * Origin: Ulthar (2:5005/49)
  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jan 3 19:25:00 2021
    Am 03.01.21 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    $ host box.imzadi.de
    box.imzadi.de is an alias for box.my.imzadi.de.
    box.my.imzadi.de has address 91.35.159.214
    box.my.imzadi.de has IPv6 address 2001:470:540b:0:f1d0:2:240:5824

    MvdV> You may have to change something more because I get no IPv6 connect. MvdV> Firewall perhaps?

    Thank you for pointing this out!

    I indeed forgot to change the IPv6 address in my firewall...

    It should work now.

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.48
    * Origin: Imzadi Box Point (2:240/5824.1)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Anna Christina Nass on Sun Jan 3 20:33:26 2021
    Hi Anna.

    $ host box.imzadi.de
    box.imzadi.de is an alias for box.my.imzadi.de.
    box.my.imzadi.de has address 91.35.159.214
    box.my.imzadi.de has IPv6 address 2001:470:540b:0:f1d0:2:240:5824

    MvdV>> You may have to change something more because I get no IPv6 connect.
    MvdV>> Firewall perhaps?

    Thank you for pointing this out!

    I indeed forgot to change the IPv6 address in my firewall...

    It should work now.

    + 20:32 [23089] call to 2:240/5824@fidonet
    20:32 [23089] trying f5824.n240.z2.binkp.net [2001:470:540b:0:f1d0:2:240:5824]...
    20:32 [23089] connected
    + 20:32 [23089] outgoing session with f5824.n240.z2.binkp.net:24554 [2001:470:540b:0:f1d0:2:240:5824]
    - 20:32 [23089] OPT CRAM-MD5-658f6c90eca8ef614b7edf23fe66e6e5 CRYPT
    + 20:32 [23089] Remote requests MD mode
    + 20:32 [23089] Remote requests CRYPT mode
    - 20:32 [23089] SYS Imzadi Box
    - 20:32 [23089] ZYZ Anna Christina Nass

    Jawolh!

    'Tommi

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: rpi.rbb.bbs.fi (2:221/1)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Feb 3 07:47:22 2021
    Hi Michiel!

    Monday February 01 2021 16:50, you wrote to All:

    MvdV> Updated 1 Feb 2021

    MvdV> 3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    MvdV> 4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    MvdV> 5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f

    Where are the first two?

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Feb 5 07:57:14 2021
    Hi Michiel!

    Wednesday February 03 2021 09:36, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>>> 3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net
    MvdV>>> 4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo
    MvdV>>> 5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast

    Where are the first two?

    MvdV> Lost in copy/paste. :-)

    Why don't you automate sending this text from a file?

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Feb 10 20:12:34 2021
    Hi Michiel!

    Friday February 05 2021 10:08, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>>> Lost in copy/paste. :-)

    Why don't you automate sending this text from a file?

    MvdV> As in posting it periodiacally? Is there demand for that?

    MvdV> As it is. I just import the file into the message with golded's import
    MvdV> function. The file is meant to be send weekley to Fidonews. That file
    MvdV> has some extra lines for the convenience of the Fidonews Editor, which I
    MvdV> delete from the message. Normally this works fime. This time I probably
    MvdV> hit the "delete line" key a bit too hard. Or the cat walked over the
    MvdV> keyboard. I don't remember.

    MvdV> If this becomes a habit, I will review the procedure.

    I would have done this a long time ago than remembering about it every time and doing something with my hands.

    Have a nice night.

    MvdV> Same to you.

    Thanks. After my wife dies, I try not to get drunk every night and sometimes I even get it.

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Stas Mishchenkov on Fri Feb 19 01:27:36 2021
    Hello Stas!

    10 Feb 2021 20:12, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    Thanks. After my wife dies, I try not to get drunk every night and sometimes I even get it.

    kondolance, it seems something do die more then once :)


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.11.0-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/58.10 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Mar 7 19:05:38 2021
    Hi Michiel!

    Sunday March 07 2021 11:45, you wrote to All:

    MvdV> 92 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    MvdV> INO4

    [fido@host-187 nodelist]$ grep -i ',5858' ./nodelist.367 ,5858,For_Technical_Purposes,Simferopol_Crimea,Brother_Rabbit,-Unpublished-,300 ,MO,CM,IBN,INA:[2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858],INO4

    JFYI ;)

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife!
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/58.10)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun Mar 7 18:20:48 2021
    Hi Stas.

    07 Mar 21 19:05, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> 92 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    MvdV>> INO4

    [fido@host-187 nodelist]$ grep -i ',5858' ./nodelist.367 ,5858,For_Technical_Purposes,Simferopol_Crimea,Brother_Rabbit,-Unpublished-,300
    ,MO,CM,IBN,INA:[2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858],INO4

    18:16 [10307] trying 2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858 [2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858]...
    18:18 [10307] connection to 2:460/5858@fidonet failed: Connection timed out
    18:18 [10307] trying f5858.n460.z2.binkp.net [2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858]...
    18:20 [10307] connection to 2:460/5858@fidonet failed: Connection timed out
    18:20 [10307] holding 2:460/5858@fidonet (2021/03/07 18:30:28)

    JFYI ;)

    JFYI ;)

    'Tommi

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Mar 7 22:34:18 2021
    Hi Tommi!

    Sunday March 07 2021 18:20, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>>> 92 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    MvdV>>> INO4

    [fido@host-187 nodelist]$ grep -i ',5858' ./nodelist.367
    ,5858,For_Technical_Purposes,Simferopol_Crimea,Brother_Rabbit,-Unpublishe
    d -,300 ,MO,CM,IBN,INA:[2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858],INO4

    18:16 [10307] trying 2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858 [2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858]... 18:18 [10307] connection to 2:460/5858@fidonet failed: Connection timed out 18:18 [10307] trying f5858.n460.z2.binkp.net [2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858]... 18:20 [10307] connection to 2:460/5858@fidonet failed: Connection timed out 18:20 [10307] holding 2:460/5858@fidonet (2021/03/07 18:30:28)

    JFYI ;)

    JFYI ;)

    It is not always so. There was just no internet today. ;)

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Mar 8 17:42:10 2021
    Good ${greeting_time}, Tommi!

    07 Mar 2021 18:20:48, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    [fido@host-187 nodelist]$ grep -i ',5858' ./nodelist.367
    ,5858,For_Technical_Purposes,Simferopol_Crimea,Brother_Rabbit,
    -Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,
    INA:[2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858],INO4
    18:16 [10307] trying 2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858 [2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858]...
    18:18 [10307] connection to 2:460/5858@fidonet failed: Connection
    timed out

    Works here:

    % nc -6 2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858 24554
    .OPT CRAM-MD5-7d478ed8ec7afa9084138fc381c2cbee SYS For_Technical_Perposes ZYZ Brother Rabbit LOC Simferopol, Crimea. <NDL MO,CM,IBN,INA:[2001:470:dcd0:1000:f1d0:2:460:5858],INO4 %TIME Mon, 8 Mar 2021 17:41:54 +0300 "VER binkd/1.1a-99/Win64 binkp/1.1 2:460/5858@fidonet


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
    gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

    ... god@universe:~ # cvs up && make world
    --- /bin/vi
    * Origin: ::1 (2:5020/545)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Mar 8 23:13:32 2021
    Hello Tommi!

    07 Mar 2021 18:20, Tommi Koivula wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    JFYI ;)
    JFYI ;)

    next will be testing popcorn ?


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.11.3-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Mykhailo Kapitanov@2:467/239 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Mar 15 04:16:16 2021

    Hello Michiel!

    13 Mar 21 10:39, you wrote to all:

    48 2:467/239 Mihail Kapitanov T-6in4 he.net f

    Mykhailo Kapitanov, Native, Vultr :)

    Mykhailo


    --- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Per rectum ad astra (2:467/239)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat May 15 08:24:10 2021

    14 May 21 21:59, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula T-6in4 he.net f

    Native Hetzner f

    tommi@mxo:~$ host f1.n221.z2.binkp.net
    f1.n221.z2.binkp.net is an alias for f1.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi. f1.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi has address 178.55.55.30
    f1.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi has address 84.230.192.117
    f1.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi has IPv6 address 2a01:4f9:c011:1ec5:f1d0:2:221:1 f1.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi mail is handled by 10 mail.fidonet.fi.

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi (2:221/1)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue May 25 19:11:21 2021
    Hi, Michiel -- on May 25 2021 at 23:03, you wrote:

    MvdV> INO4 104 1:154/7715 Dallas Hinton Native Shaw Comms.

    Ooops --- 153/7715, please. :-)



    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed May 26 05:43:31 2021
    Hi, Michiel -- on May 26 2021 at 10:28, you wrote:

    MvdV> On Tuesday May 25 2021 19:11, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> 104 1:154/7715 Dallas Hinton Native Shaw Comms.

    Ooops --- 153/7715, please. :-)

    MvdV> Oops indeed....

    MvdV> Done!

    Thanks!! Finger fumbles, no matter HOW long we've been typing!!


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Jan 3 15:45:00 2022
    Am 03.01.22 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    MvdV> 82 2:240/5824 Anna Christina Nass T-6in4 he.net f

    I've switched from my he.net tunnel to the native IPv6 stack from my
    provider (Deutsche Telekom).
    As the prefix may change from time to time, I'm using the Dynv6 DynDNS service to keep track of my IPv6 prefix.
    (Before, I chose the he.net tunnel to ensure a static prefix, but I
    had more and more trouble because of GeoIP stuff for some services...)

    The BBS is reachable via the DNS Name box.imzadi.de; at the moment, it
    has the IPv6 address 2003:e9:2745:a100:f1d0:2:240:5824 :)

    Regards,
    Anna


    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Imzadi Box Point (2:240/5824.1)
  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Jan 3 20:31:00 2022
    Am 03.01.22 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    I've switched from my he.net tunnel to the native IPv6 stack from my
    provider (Deutsche Telekom).

    MvdV> OK, thanks for the update. I will update the list accordingly.

    Thank you!

    [GeoIP]
    MvdV> A well known problem. When I used a he.net tunnel, most geolocation
    MvdV> services positioned me in the USA, despite the POP being in Amsterdam...

    I tried two tunnels, one in Frankfurt and one in Berlin.
    Using either tunnel, two TV streaming services and one food ordering
    service did not let me in. Now, it is working just fine...

    I even tried a website which should tell me where my IP address is
    located and one even told me I'm in Germany when using one of the
    he.net tunnels...

    This whole geolocation stuff is just meeehh...

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Imzadi Box Point (2:240/5824.1)
  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Jan 4 15:49:00 2022
    Am 03.01.22 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    This whole geolocation stuff is just meeehh...

    MvdV> I had no problems since I got native IPv6 fom my provider six years ago. MvdV> I only had problems with the he.net tunnel.
    MvdV> The SixXs tunnel gave no problems.

    I did not use SixXs, but it stopped its service anyway some years ago.
    The he.net tunnel ran fine for many, many years - and I had my fixed
    prefix where I even could provide my reverse DNS for.

    The native IPv4+IPv6 connection from Telekom does work, but as it's
    only a consumer-grade connection, I don't get fixed addresses or a
    fixed prefix. But I found a workaround using Dynv6 :)

    So my router (Fritz!Box) calls a script on one of my rented vServers
    (via a https request), which in turn sets the IPv4 address and the
    IPv6 prefix on Dynv6 and on my own DNS zone. And it seems to work fine
    :)

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Imzadi Box Point (2:240/5824.1)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Jan 5 14:28:16 2022
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2022-01-05 13:41:25, you wrote to Anna Christina Nass:

    MvdV> I never understood why providers still issue dynamic adresses to
    MvdV> their customers. It made sense in the time of dial up. But now with
    MvdV> "always on" connections...

    So they can charge extra for static addresses?

    Bye, Wilfred.
    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Jan 5 15:23:26 2022
    MvdV> So no problems with geolocation.

    I deliberately change my geolocation (VPN) to extend my various streaming services (e.g. Netflix, Prime, BBS, NRK) by a magnitude. Unfortunately I still haven't found a VPN service that handles IPv6. It'll probably take another decade or so before they catch up.



    ..

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
    * Origin: news://eljaco.se (2:203/2)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Jan 5 15:55:30 2022
    Hi Michiel!

    05 Jan 2022 13:41, from Michiel van der Vlist -> Anna Christina Nass:

    I never understood why providers still issue dynamic adresses to their customers.

    Same here.
    But I learned something.
    It seems many customers see that as a privacy enhancing thing.
    Also some services use the IP to meter free usage.
    I have heared of people that reboot their modem to get a new IP and start with 0 MB downlaoded all over ;)

    CU, Ricsi

    ... Wisdom has two parts: 1) Having a lot to say. 2) Not saying it.
    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: I post, therefore I am. (2:310/31)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Björn Felten on Wed Jan 5 20:02:44 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Bj”rn!

    05 Jan 2022 15:23:26, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> So no problems with geolocation.
    I deliberately change my geolocation (VPN) to extend my various
    streaming services (e.g. Netflix, Prime, BBS, NRK) by a magnitude. Unfortunately I still haven't found a VPN service that handles IPv6.
    It'll probably take another decade or so before they catch up.

    If you were a really smart ass, you'd search for some cheap VPS instead.

    Just for 1 (or 2) EUR/month you may get everything you really need.


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
    gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

    ... :wq!
    --- /bin/vi
    * Origin: ::1 (2:5020/545)
  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jan 6 08:55:00 2022
    Am 05.01.22 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    MvdV> I never understood why providers still issue dynamic adresses to their MvdV> customers. It made sense in the time of dial up. But now with "always MvdV> on" connections...

    I think, today it is a way to sell their 'business' rates which
    include static IPv4 and IPv6 prefix...

    MvdV> Anyway, I too have a dynamic IPv4 address and a dynamic IPv6
    MvdV> pefix. But in practice it is semi static. It does not change
    MvdV> often enough to invest time and energy in automatic updates.

    My first boss once told me: If something is to be done more than one
    time, it's worth writing a script to automate it :)
    But besides, you have to be noticed somehow that the IP/prefix has
    been changed - or how do you know when to manually update your DNS?

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Imzadi Box Point (2:240/5824.1)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jan 6 13:45:42 2022
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2022-01-06 13:20:33, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>>> I never understood why providers still issue dynamic adresses
    MvdV>>> to their customers. It made sense in the time of dial up. But
    MvdV>>> now with "always on" connections...

    So they can charge extra for static addresses?

    MvdV> My provider (Ziggo) does not offer that. They have a Business Pro package
    MvdV> that includes a static /29 for IPv4 and a static /48 for IPv6, but for that
    MvdV> you need a commercial registration. (KvK nummer) They do not offer static
    MvdV> adresses on consumer accounts. Not for money and not for free.

    So maybe it is just to save a bit on addresses? If only 1% of customers isn't online at any give time, if you have a milion customers that is still 10000 addresses...

    And it's probably easier to "administer" dynamic addresses.

    Bye, Wilfred.
    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jan 6 19:23:06 2022

    06 Jan 22 14:01, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    Hello Alexey,

    On Wednesday January 05 2022 20:02, you wrote to Bj”rn Felten:

    If you were a really smart ass, you'd search for some cheap VPS
    instead.

    Then I am not a smart ass. I LIKE to run my Fidonet stuff from home. With whatever I can put together to make it
    work.

    If you read the message thread again, you will notice that they were not talking about running fidonet stuff. They were talking about VPN.

    You can have a VPS with static /64 and run your own VPN server there. That's exactly how I have a static ipv6 address everywhere I want. For example at home to run fidonet stuff. :)

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: 2a01:4f9:c011:1ec5:f1d0:2:221:1 (2:221/1)
  • From Victor Sudakov@2:5005/49 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Jan 7 10:32:48 2022
    Dear Michiel,

    06 Jan 22 14:04, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    So maybe it is just to save a bit on addresses? If only 1% of
    customers isn't online at any give time, if you have a milion
    customers that is still 10000 addresses...

    1) For IPv6 it is no issue. There is no shortage on IPv6 adresses.
    (yet)

    And may never happen. But a shortage on IPv6 prefixes can happen IMHO, if /48s are given away easily. There is only 35 million million (35 trillion) /48 blocks in the current global 2000::/3 pool. A trillion is not that much, I think a trillion bacteria live on 1 human person.

    Do you know if the 2000::/3 global pool can be extended if necessary?

    OTOH, we don't need an IPv6 *prefix* per each bacteria, one IPv6 *address* per bacteria is sufficient, so a /64 for each human being is more than enough.

    Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
    --- GoldED+/BSD 1.1.5-b20170303-b20170303
    * Origin: Ulthar (2:5005/49)
  • From Victor Sudakov@2:5005/49 to Tommi Koivula on Fri Jan 7 10:42:50 2022
    Dear Tommi,

    06 Jan 22 19:23, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:
    You can have a VPS with static /64 and run your own VPN server there. That's exactly how I have a static ipv6 address everywhere I want. For example at home to run fidonet stuff. :)

    I have a Vultr VPS with a static /64 on its interface. But to use it as a VPN server, you need to carve some IPv6 subnet out of this /64, how do you do it?

    Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
    --- GoldED+/BSD 1.1.5-b20170303-b20170303
    * Origin: Ulthar (2:5005/49)
  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Jan 7 11:07:00 2022
    Am 06.01.22 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    I think, today it is a way to sell their 'business' rates which
    include static IPv4 and IPv6 prefix...

    MvdV> Here that "Business Pro" package is not available without a commercial MvdV> registration.

    As far as I've read, at least as a customer of Deutsche Telekom it is
    also possible to get the business packages.
    I don't know how other ISPs handle it, though.

    My first boss once told me: If something is to be done more than one
    time, it's worth writing a script to automate it :)

    MvdV> I see the point but I disagree with that boss of yours. If it happens MvdV> twice it is still not worth to invest time and energy in automating it. MvdV> Most of the time at least. Problem is of course that one generally does MvdV> not know in advance how often it is going to happen.

    Yep, that's the problem :) So I try to handle it in the way that if automating a problem is not excessively hard, I try to write a script
    if I probably have to solve a problem several times.

    But besides, you have to be noticed somehow that the IP/prefix has
    been changed - or how do you know when to manually update your DNS?

    MvdV> If my IPv6 pefix changes I notice soon enough. There is always someone MvdV> in the Fidonet IPv6 club that warns me within a day. ;-)

    Okay, so it can happen that your IPv6 connection isn't reachable for
    some time (via DNS). So it's good that IPv4 is still working :)

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Imzadi Box Point (2:240/5824.1)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Victor Sudakov on Fri Jan 7 12:49:56 2022

    07 Jan 22 10:42, Victor Sudakov wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    You can have a VPS with static /64 and run your own VPN server
    there. That's exactly how I have a static ipv6 address everywhere
    I want. For example at home to run fidonet stuff. :)

    I have a Vultr VPS with a static /64 on its interface. But to use it
    as a VPN server, you need to carve some IPv6 subnet out of this /64,
    how do you do it?

    I have a wireguard server running in my VPS (Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS). It is using a /112 of /64 for it's clients.

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: =========================>>>> (2:221/360)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Jan 7 12:54:30 2022

    07 Jan 22 10:36, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    Then I am not a smart ass. I LIKE to run my Fidonet stuff from
    home. With whatever I can put together to make it work.

    If you read the message thread again, you will notice that they
    were not talking about running fidonet stuff. They were talking
    about VPN.

    That is not how I read Alexey's message.

    Ok. Alexey may correct me if I misundertood him.

    You can have a VPS with static /64 and run your own VPN server
    there. That's exactly how I have a static ipv6 address everywhere
    I want. For example at home to run fidonet stuff. :)

    Ok... So you run your Fidonet server at home and you have a VPN
    conection to a server in a data centre. You have a /64 from the
    address range of the data centre and all your IPv6 traffic goes
    through the data centre. Yes?

    No. That was just an example. But I could do my home fidonet that way.

    Hmm... It seems to me that the same description fits a tunnel...

    Of course VPN (virtual private network) is a tunnel. :D

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: ==========================>>> (2:221/360)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Jan 7 14:44:44 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

    07 Jan 2022 10:36:42, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    Then I am not a smart ass. I LIKE to run my Fidonet stuff from
    home. With whatever I can put together to make it work.
    If you read the message thread again, you will notice that they
    were not talking about running fidonet stuff. They were talking
    about VPN.
    MvdV> That is not how I read Alexey's message.

    Running the Fidonet node is not (and can not ever be) restricted by GeoIP services.

    You can have a VPS with static /64 and run your own VPN server
    there. That's exactly how I have a static ipv6 address everywhere
    I want. For example at home to run fidonet stuff. :)
    MvdV> Ok... So you run your Fidonet server at home and you have a VPN

    Avoiding use of well-known VPNs is a good (though uncommon) practice.

    MvdV> conection to a server in a data centre. You have a /64 from the
    MvdV> address range of the data centre

    Yes. Or several addresses from different ASes.

    MvdV> and all your IPv6 traffic goes through the data centre. Yes?

    s/ all/, when necessary,/

    MvdV> Hmm... It seems to me that the same description fits a tunnel...

    Or several tunnels.


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
    gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

    ... GPG: 8832FE9FA791F7968AC96E4E909DAC45EF3B1FA8 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net
    --- /bin/vi
    * Origin: ::1 (2:5020/545)
  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Jan 8 03:15:26 2022
    Hello, Michiel!

    Thursday January 06 2022 14:01, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    If you were a really smart ass, you'd search for some cheap VPS
    instead.

    Then I am not a smart ass. I LIKE to run my Fidonet stuff from home.
    With whatever I can put together to make it work.

    Alexey is a well-known troll/abuser, please ignore his rude comments.
    I am using VPN to get ipv6 connectivity (the same VPN is used to place myself in Luxembourg for many external services) and it works perfectly.

    Best regards,
    dp.

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  • From Victor Sudakov@2:5005/49 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Jan 8 12:40:08 2022
    Dear Tommi,

    07 Jan 22 12:49, you wrote to me:

    You can have a VPS with static /64 and run your own VPN server
    there. That's exactly how I have a static ipv6 address
    everywhere I want. For example at home to run fidonet stuff. :)

    I have a Vultr VPS with a static /64 on its interface. But to use
    it as a VPN server, you need to carve some IPv6 subnet out of
    this /64, how do you do it?

    I have a wireguard server running in my VPS (Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS). It
    is using a /112 of /64 for it's clients.

    Do you mean to say you can have a /64 network on your VPS' main interface and at the same time a /112 from the *same* *network* on a wg0 interface?
    Is this even permitted by the OS?

    Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Victor Sudakov on Sat Jan 8 09:29:00 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Victor!

    08 Jan 2022 12:40:08, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    I have a wireguard server running in my VPS (Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS).
    It is using a /112 of /64 for it's clients.
    Do you mean to say you can have a /64 network on your VPS' main
    interface and at the same time a /112 from the *same* *network*
    on a wg0 interface? Is this even permitted by the OS?

    Yes - at least properly configured Linux allows this.


    --
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  • From Victor Sudakov@2:5005/49 to Alexey Vissarionov on Sat Jan 8 13:48:30 2022
    Dear Alexey,

    08 Jan 22 09:29, you wrote to me:
    I have a wireguard server running in my VPS (Ubuntu 20.04.3
    LTS). It is using a /112 of /64 for it's clients.
    Do you mean to say you can have a /64 network on your VPS' main
    interface and at the same time a /112 from the *same* *network*
    on a wg0 interface? Is this even permitted by the OS?

    Yes - at least properly configured Linux allows this.

    What do you mean by "properly configured"? You mean the out-of-the-box configuration still does not allow this?

    A Cisco router would not allow the same L2 network on two different L3 interfaces IMHO, even if one of the prefixes is more specific. If it would, how should it know whether the destination is behind a gateway or can be reached by ARP/NDP?

    Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
    --- GoldED+/BSD 1.1.5-b20170303-b20170303
    * Origin: Ulthar (2:5005/49)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Victor Sudakov on Sat Jan 8 10:05:24 2022
    08 Jan 22 12:40, Victor Sudakov wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    You can have a VPS with static /64 and run your own VPN server
    there. That's exactly how I have a static ipv6 address
    everywhere I want. For example at home to run fidonet stuff. :)

    I have a Vultr VPS with a static /64 on its interface. But to use
    it as a VPN server, you need to carve some IPv6 subnet out of
    this /64, how do you do it?

    I have a wireguard server running in my VPS (Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS). It
    is using a /112 of /64 for it's clients.

    Do you mean to say you can have a /64 network on your VPS' main interface and at the same time a /112 from the
    *same* *network* on a wg0 interface?

    Yes.

    Is this even permitted by the OS?

    Seems so. :) I am no linux expert, but that's how I got it working. :)

    'Tommi

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  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Jan 8 16:09:00 2022
    Am 08.01.22 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    MvdV> It is up to the ISP how they deal with it. Point is that even if you MvdV> could get the Business Pro package without a commercial registration, it MvdV> is still not just "paying extra for the fixed IP". You get a lot more, MvdV> like support guaranteed within a certain time frame etc, end you pay for MvdV> that. A lot...

    Same here. Although how much of "a lot" it costs more depends on the
    speed and other extras that you wish to have.
    Basically a 50 MBit/s (downstream) / 10 MBit/s (upstream) is around
    40 EUR/month for consumers and around 52 EUR/month for business
    customers.

    Okay, so it can happen that your IPv6 connection isn't reachable for
    some time (via DNS). So it's good that IPv4 is still working :)

    MvdV> Indeed, it occasionally happens that my IPv6 is down for a couple of MvdV> hours or so. It also occasiaonally happens that my system is completely MvdV> down for a couple of hours. This is a hobby system. I do maintenance MvdV> once in a while and there the occasional power failure.

    Same here. The IPv6 connection for my BBS also had problems on friday
    because Dynv6 'forgot' the AAAA record that I've configured - but it
    seems to be a known problem. Maybe I rewrite the update script (and
    recreate the AAAA record on every prefix change) or switch to my own
    dyndns solution...

    And in the near future, my BBS will also be down due to a Synchronet update...

    MvdV> If I still had a business and it depended on my servers being 24/7 on MvdV> line, I would take measures. As it is, I do not consider it an issue for MvdV> a hobby system...

    That's true, indeed.

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Jan 8 17:26:10 2022
    On 8.1.2022 12:49, Michiel van der Vlist wrote:


    Hmm... It seems to me that the same description fits a tunnel...

    Of course VPN (virtual private network) is a tunnel. :D

    And so you have the same geolocation issues...

    What issues? I'm not following you now... I have no geolocation issues
    with the vpn server located in Finland.

    The he.net tunnel to Amsterdam causes websites to speak dutch to me, but
    I'm not using that tunnel for web.

    'Tommi

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Anna Christina Nass on Sat Jan 8 21:44:03 2022
    Basically a 50 MBit/s (downstream) / 10 MBit/s (upstream) is around
    40 EUR/month for consumers

    WOW! That's a lot. I pay EUR40 per month for my 100/100. A 50/10 fiber costs less than EUR20 here in Sweden. And we are a loooong country, with a lot of rural space, we need long fibres. :)



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  • From Victor Sudakov@2:5005/49 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jan 9 13:00:06 2022
    Dear Michiel,

    09 Jan 22 00:03, you wrote to me:

    Do you know if the 2000::/3 global pool can be extended if
    necessary?

    Sure. When 2000::/3 runs out, there is 4000::/3. And when that runs
    out, there is 6000::/3. Up until c000::/3.

    That's great news!

    I do not expect to live to see that happen.

    Things do happen. We may reach a technological singularity where every AI will request a /48 for itself and its minions, for example.

    Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
    --- GoldED+/BSD 1.1.5-b20170303-b20170303
    * Origin: Ulthar (2:5005/49)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Victor Sudakov on Sun Jan 9 09:21:00 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Victor!

    08 Jan 2022 13:48:30, you wrote to me:

    I have a wireguard server running in my VPS (Ubuntu 20.04.3
    LTS). It is using a /112 of /64 for it's clients.
    Do you mean to say you can have a /64 network on your VPS' main
    interface and at the same time a /112 from the *same* *network*
    on a wg0 interface? Is this even permitted by the OS?
    Yes - at least properly configured Linux allows this.
    What do you mean by "properly configured"? You mean the
    out-of-the-box configuration still does not allow this?

    Obviously.

    A Cisco router would not allow the same L2 network on two different
    L3 interfaces IMHO, even if one of the prefixes is more specific.

    That's a limitation of BSD-style IP stack.


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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Björn Felten on Sun Jan 9 09:28:28 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Bj”rn!

    08 Jan 2022 21:44:02, you wrote to Anna Christina Nass:

    Basically a 50 MBit/s (downstream) / 10 MBit/s (upstream) is around
    40 EUR/month for consumers
    WOW! That's a lot. I pay EUR40 per month for my 100/100.

    Pffff... 500 RUB (approx. 6 EUR) for 500 Mbps.

    A 50/10 fiber costs less than EUR20 here in Sweden.

    Asymmetric? Why?

    And we are a loooong country, with a lot of rural space, we need long fibres. :)

    Slightly less than 1600 km. We are 6 times loooooooooooooooooooooooonger :-)


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
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  • From Victor Sudakov@2:5005/49 to Alexey Vissarionov on Sun Jan 9 14:03:50 2022
    Dear Alexey,

    09 Jan 22 09:21, you wrote to me:

    I have a wireguard server running in my VPS (Ubuntu 20.04.3
    LTS). It is using a /112 of /64 for it's clients.
    Do you mean to say you can have a /64 network on your VPS' main
    interface and at the same time a /112 from the *same* *network*
    on a wg0 interface? Is this even permitted by the OS?
    Yes - at least properly configured Linux allows this.
    What do you mean by "properly configured"? You mean the
    out-of-the-box configuration still does not allow this?

    Obviously.

    What do you need to configure to enable this behaviour on Linux?

    A Cisco router would not allow the same L2 network on two
    different L3 interfaces IMHO, even if one of the prefixes is more
    specific.

    That's a limitation of BSD-style IP stack.

    Interestingly enough, FreeBSD 12.3 has just let me do exactly that (sorry, an IPv4 example), without any additional configuration. The world is full of wonders:

    root@vas:~ # apply ifconfig lo{2,3}
    lo2: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 16384
    options=680003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,LINKSTATE,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
    inet 192.168.13.1/24
    groups: lo
    nd6 options=29<PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
    lo3: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 16384
    options=680003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,LINKSTATE,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
    inet 192.168.13.129/25
    groups: lo
    nd6 options=29<PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
    root@vas:~ #
    root@vas:~ # apply 'route get ' 192.168.13.2 192.168.13.200
    route to: 192.168.13.2
    destination: 192.168.13.0
    mask: 255.255.255.0
    fib: 0
    interface: lo2
    flags: <UP,DONE,PROTO1>
    recvpipe sendpipe ssthresh rtt,msec mtu weight expire
    0 0 0 0 16384 1 0

    route to: 192.168.13.200
    destination: 192.168.13.128
    mask: 255.255.255.128
    fib: 0
    interface: lo3
    flags: <UP,DONE,PROTO1>
    recvpipe sendpipe ssthresh rtt,msec mtu weight expire
    0 0 0 0 16384 1 0
    root@vas:~ #



    Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
    --- GoldED+/BSD 1.1.5-b20170303-b20170303
    * Origin: Ulthar (2:5005/49)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Alexey Vissarionov on Sun Jan 9 21:15:17 2022
    On 9.1.2022 8:28, Alexey Vissarionov wrote:

    A 50/10 fiber costs less than EUR20 here in Sweden.

    Asymmetric? Why?

    Maybe the cheap solution: Only one fiber; downstream and upstream on
    different wavelengths.

    'Tommi
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    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Jan 10 12:00:00 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Tommi!

    09 Jan 2022 21:15:16, you wrote to me:

    A 50/10 fiber costs less than EUR20 here in Sweden.
    ^^^^^^^
    Who had screwed the quoting? This line is not written by me.

    Asymmetric? Why?
    Maybe the cheap solution: Only one fiber; downstream and upstream
    on different wavelengths.

    Yes, but this technology is symmetric.


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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Alexey Vissarionov on Mon Jan 10 10:55:05 2022
    Maybe the cheap solution: Only one fiber; downstream and upstream
    on different wavelengths.

    (I agree with Alexey, the above quote looks like shit, what crappy abandonware is responsible for this?)

    The signal is already encoded via a multitude of frequencies and of course light can travel in both directions at the same time, so no, that's not the reason. Nota bene, it's the same fiber and equipment, just different speeds at very different cost, I can change it any time without any hardware changes.

    Yes, but this technology is symmetric.

    I agree. The only reason I can figure out, is that some ISPs don't want people to run servers, they want their customers to buy their contents (usually lots of encoded TV channels).

    One package offered by Telia (the former government owned TelCo in Sweden) costs EUR 60 per month, 12 month binding time, for just the content -- the fiber not included.

    So they pretend that it's still ADSL technique, that many customers started with in the early internet days?



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Mon Jan 10 10:57:41 2022
    Maybe the cheap solution: Only one fiber; downstream and upstream
    on different wavelengths.

    (I agree with Alexey, the above quote looks like shit, what crappy abandonware is responsible for this?)

    Oops, Thunderbird managed to correct it? It looked like crap in Alexeys comment, but in my it looked OK. Strange...



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  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Björn Felten on Mon Jan 10 13:21:00 2022
    Am 08.01.22 schrieb Bj”rn Felten@2:203/2 in IPV6:

    Hallo Bj”rn,

    Basically a 50 MBit/s (downstream) / 10 MBit/s (upstream) is around
    40 EUR/month for consumers

    WOW! That's a lot. I pay EUR40 per month for my 100/100. A 50/10 fiber costs less than EUR20 here in Sweden. And we are a loooong country, with a lot of rural space, we need long fibres. :)

    Well, here in Germany, we screwed up so many things up concerning telecommunications, and now we have to pay the price.
    (In the 80s, because of "personal interests" of some politicians,
    copper cables were preferred over fiber and a nationwide cable TV
    system was established. Phone cables also stayed in copper, but at
    least the system went digital (ISDN).
    After the counter-revolution in the GDR and after we bought the
    country, the phone system in east Germany was rebuilt using fiber, but
    later we had to add copper for DSL (as the fiber technology was
    different from the newer one) instead of updating the fiber tech.
    As everything had been privatized, this was logical as it was cheaper
    in the current quarter...
    And the mobile phone frequencies that were auctioned from the state
    were really expensive, so that also counts on the price tag of
    everything in the telco business...)

    Oh, and my connection isn't fiber, but copper DSL.
    I don't know if fiber is even available here...

    In another part of the city, the municipal services are searching for
    fiber (FTTH) clients, but it also won't be cheap and you'll only get a
    "dual stack lite" connection :-(

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Imzadi Box Point (2:240/5824.1)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Jan 10 14:38:18 2022
    Hi Michiel!

    10 Jan 2022 13:39, from Michiel van der Vlist -> Victor Sudakov:

    Many ISPs only offer a /48 to business accounts. For consumer accounts
    it is often a /56. A /56 is plenty for most I'd say.

    Or a /64 for residential.
    And you don't have to fuss around with how to subnet.
    The CPE simply announces the IPv6 net on the LAN side and you are done ;)

    CU, Ricsi

    ... Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels so good.
    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: Haggis - Gaelic for Spam. (2:310/31)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Jan 10 15:48:56 2022
    MvdV> Just one /64 would not be satisfactory to me.

    Doesn't a /64 contain 2^64 addresses? Not enough? The entire IPv4 pool is 2^32...



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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Jan 10 19:12:34 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

    10 Jan 2022 16:06:26, you wrote to Bj”rn Felten:

    MvdV>>> Just one /64 would not be satisfactory to me.
    Doesn't a /64 contain 2^64 addresses? Not enough? The entire IPv4
    pool is 2^32...
    MvdV> It is not that 2^64 addresses are not enough for all my devices,
    MvdV> it is that a /64 can not be divided into subnets.

    [Top-secret, burn before reading!]
    It can.

    And on my early experiments, when the /64 was the only block I had, that was really great.

    MvdV> That is the way it is designed. A /64 is the smallest subnet.

    No. The /64 is the default subnet size, and people normally SHOULD NOT (as in FTA-1006) split these blocks further, but that IS possible and NOT prohibited.

    MvdV> I might have designed it different but I was not involved at
    MvdV> the time.

    IPv6 is not that strict as, for example, IPX was.

    MvdV> So... if one wants/needs more than one subnet, one needs more than
    MvdV> one /64. That is the way it is. It should be no problem, there is
    MvdV> enough for everyone.

    Here in Russia the de-facto standard is one MAC-based IPv6 address for the outer-side link and /64 subnet routed via that address to the customer's LAN. Additional subnets may be requested as well, but ISP admins say most people don't request them.


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  • From deon@3:633/509 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Jan 11 10:00:58 2022
    Re: List of IPv6 nodes
    By: Michiel van der Vlist to Bj”rn Felten on Mon Jan 10 2022 04:06 pm

    designed. A /64 is the smallest subnet. I might have designed it different but I was not involved at the time.

    So... if one wants/needs more than one subnet, one needs more than one /64. That is the way it is.

    Sure it can!

    I use /80's a lot, which in reality could be /96's but I'm being generous to the network that I use the /80's on.

    Certainly, having a /64 is "simplier" - its, in many cases, no configuration required (or minimal "enabling" in your router). But anything smaller, its pretty much manual.


    ...ëîåï
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  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Jan 11 10:21:00 2022
    Am 10.01.22 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    In another part of the city, the municipal services are searching for
    fiber (FTTH) clients, but it also won't be cheap and you'll only get
    a "dual stack lite" connection :-(

    MvdV> That should be no surprise. The Intenet has de facto run out of IPv4 MvdV> adresses ten years ago.

    Yep, I know :) And thus the 'newer' ISPs don't had the chance to get
    enough IPv4 addresses for all new customers, while 'older' ISPs (like Deutsche Telekom in my case) have bigger IPv4 address pools.

    MvdV> For years I have been saying that DS-Lite is unavoidable in the
    MvdV> long run.

    Correct.
    But as long as IPv6 is not the default case for accessing the
    Internet, I still want to have a 'real' IPv4 address to be able to
    access my home devices from the Internet.
    And in my case, I don't have IPv6 at work, for example.
    But all my (own, private) servers do have IPv6 enabled and reachable
    for years now (and I also have the IPv6 T-Shirt from he.net *g*), so
    at least I'm prepared :)

    Regards,
    Anna
    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Imzadi Box Point (2:240/5824.1)
  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Jan 11 10:24:00 2022
    Am 10.01.22 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    Same here. Although how much of "a lot" it costs more depends on the
    speed and other extras that you wish to have.

    MvdV> But that is the thing: I do not want/need the speed and other extras and MvdV> so I do not want to pat for it. I would perhaps pay a small fee for just MvdV> a fixed IP, but that is not offered.

    Same here. That's the reason I 'only' have a 50/10 MBit/s connection
    and not 100 (40 up? don't remember..) or maybe more.
    And I also would pay extra for a fixed IP, or at least a fixed
    prefix...

    Same here. The IPv6 connection for my BBS also had problems on friday
    because Dynv6 'forgot' the AAAA record that I've configured - but it
    seems to be a known problem. Maybe I rewrite the update script (and
    recreate the AAAA record on every prefix change) or switch to my own
    dyndns solution...

    MvdV> We patiently wait... ;-)
    MvdV> Please share your experience with us.

    I'll do that :)
    At the moment, the AAAA that I've manually configured some days ago is
    still present.

    Regards,
    Anna
    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Imzadi Box Point (2:240/5824.1)
  • From deon@3:633/509 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jan 13 10:10:42 2022
    Re: List of IPv6 nodes
    By: Michiel van der Vlist to deon on Wed Jan 12 2022 03:28 pm

    Howdy,

    I use /80's a lot, which in reality could be /96's but I'm being generous to the network that I use the /80's on.

    But why? When you can have enough space to make /64 subnets?

    Because in my use case, having a /64 for 2 or 3 hosts is a waste - and given in that use case it is a manual config anyway, spliting up an already routed /64 into smaller parts, is easier than routing multiple /64 through intermediate hosts.

    And some thing will not work any more.

    From an IP comms point of view, I've never not handing work anymore. From a SLAAC point of view, sure - which was my earlier comment around simple setup.


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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jan 13 02:20:20 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

    12 Jan 2022 15:21:30, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>>> It is not that 2^64 addresses are not enough for all my
    MvdV>>> devices, it is that a /64 can not be divided into subnets.
    And on my early experiments, when the /64 was the only block
    I had, that was really great.
    MvdV> Yes, now that you mention it, I remember yuo experimenting
    MvdV> with dividing a /64 into 32 bit subnets.

    Yes, of size /96

    MvdV>>> That is the way it is designed. A /64 is the smallest subnet.
    No. The /64 is the default subnet size, and people normally
    SHOULD NOT (as in FTA-1006) split these blocks further, but
    that IS possible and NOT prohibited.
    MvdV> OK, so I stand corrected, it is possible.
    MvdV> But many things won't work any more. SLAAC comes to mind.
    MvdV> So one /should/ avoid it.

    Exactly.

    MvdV> At first glance one would say: a /64? what a waste! But keep in
    MvdV> mind that "waste" is only a problem when there is a shortage.
    MvdV> "Waste and shortage" is IPv4 think.

    IPX had 32 bits for network number and 48 bits for node number (actually 47, because it used MACs for the node numbers by default).

    And many good features of IPv6 were inspired by this protocol.

    MvdV>>> So... if one wants/needs more than one subnet, one needs more
    MvdV>>> than one /64. That is the way it is. It should be no problem,
    MvdV>>> there is enough for everyone.
    Here in Russia the de-facto standard is one MAC-based IPv6 address
    for the outer-side link and /64 subnet routed via that address to
    the customer's LAN. Additional subnets may be requested as well,
    but ISP admins say most people don't request them.
    MvdV> So most people in Russia do not need more than one subnet....

    This may be safely extrapolated to the whole globe: most people just don't bother of separate subnets in their LANs - they simply use plastic routers putting all internal devices in one big "LAN" segment (computers, phones, fridges, phones... everything) and allow one-way connections to "external" networks, regargless of whether they use IPv4 or IPv6.


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  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jan 13 15:57:00 2022
    Am 12.01.22 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    Correct.
    But as long as IPv6 is not the default case for accessing the
    Internet, I still want to have a 'real' IPv4 address to be able to
    access my home devices from the Internet.

    MvdV> I do not know if that is a realistic wish.

    MvdV> The transition to IPv6 should have been completed 10 years ago, /before/ MvdV> the world ran out of IPv4 adresses.

    You're absolutely right!

    And in my case, I don't have IPv6 at work, for example.

    MvdV> So tell your boss that he needs to prepair for the case that when you MvdV> are forced to work from home and can only be reached via IPv6.

    :) I'm working for the local public library, a part of the
    municipality. And as I'm living in Germany, I'm happy that I do have a working computer and not only a typewriter and a fax machine.
    Our library building still has some IBM Type-1 cabling (from Token
    Ring-days) that we're using for Ethernet via some adapters...
    I don't think that IPv6 days will come soon here...

    MvdV> I mentioned feste-ip.net didn't I?

    I didn't know that page, thanks for that info :)
    But I'm happy that my setup is working at the moment as I've set it up
    :)

    But all my (own, private) servers do have IPv6 enabled and reachable
    for years now (and I also have the IPv6 T-Shirt from he.net *g*), so
    at least I'm prepared :)

    MvdV> The T-shirt... I already showed you mine didn't I? How about showing MvdV> yours? ;-)

    Hehe, nice try :) I guess it's looking basically the same :)

    Regards,
    Anna
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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Anna Christina Nass on Thu Jan 13 12:30:15 2022
    Hello Anna!

    13 Jan 22 15:57, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>> The T-shirt... I already showed you mine didn't I? How about
    MvdV>> showing yours? ;-)

    Hehe, nice try :) I guess it's looking basically the same :)

    I daresay that yours probably looks better. ;-)

    Andrew

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  • From Victor Sudakov@2:5005/49 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Jan 15 13:38:26 2022
    Dear Michiel,

    10 Jan 22 13:39, you wrote to me:


    Sure. When 2000::/3 runs out, there is 4000::/3. And when that
    runs out, there is 6000::/3. Up until c000::/3.

    That's great news!

    It is not really news I'd say.

    I've never seen an RFC or any other standard referring to a global unicast address block other than 2000::/3. Of course it looks reasonable that in the future you can slice 0000::/1 or 8000::/1 into /3 blocks, but I've never read anything official. So at least it's news for me.

    Ans I suppose when push come to shove
    1000::/4 coild also be used. And even 0::/4 with the exeption of
    0::/64.

    BTW what is already in use within 0000::/1 and 8000::/1 besides 2000::/3?

    Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
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  • From Victor Sudakov@2:5005/49 to Björn Felten on Sat Jan 15 13:57:12 2022
    Dear Bj”rn,

    10 Jan 22 10:55, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    I agree. The only reason I can figure out, is that some ISPs don't
    want people to run servers,

    Or rather, they don't want people to share content via bittorent etc.

    There are a lot of better options to run a server than a home connection IMHO.

    they want their customers to buy their
    contents (usually lots of encoded TV channels).

    Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
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  • From Victor Sudakov@2:5005/49 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Jan 15 14:13:28 2022
    Dear Michiel,

    12 Jan 22 15:21, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    Here in Russia the de-facto standard is one MAC-based IPv6
    address for the outer-side link and /64 subnet routed via that
    address to the customer's LAN. Additional subnets may be
    requested as well, but ISP admins say most people don't request
    them.

    So most people in Russia do not need more than one subnet....

    Most people in Russia cannot even get one *native* IPv6 address for their home connection, let alone a static one. Well, probably not most but the majority, I'm for one. I have not noticed ISPs here willing to adopt IPv6.

    Mobile operators (mts.ru for sure) give you a dynamic IPv6 address for each mobile device by default (to go together with an RFC1918 IPv4 address).

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Tony Langdon on Sun Jan 16 11:35:42 2022
    Hi Tony!

    16 Jan 2022 20:15, from Tony Langdon -> Richard Menedetter:

    Or a /64 for residential.
    And you don't have to fuss around with how to subnet.
    The CPE simply announces the IPv6 net on the LAN side and you are
    done ;)
    There are arguments for more than a /64 for residential use. That
    allows for different subnets with different security profiles, such as
    for IoT, the car, whatever other network of smart devices you want.
    For many, I suspect a /60 would be sufficient.

    Sure ... I agree.

    My reply was more from the ISP point of view.
    With 1 v6 subnet it is easy, you just announce the subnet.

    If you allow more, you need a way to configure them. (eg. VLANs, different subnet on different LAN port, etc.)

    That is added complexity for a low cost product, where most of your residential customers will have no clue what this is all about.

    So it makes more sense to offer that on higher tier (and more expensive) services.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jan 16 20:11:00 2022
    On 01-10-22 13:39, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Victor Sudakov <=-

    Many ISPs only offer a /48 to business accounts. For consumer accounts
    it is often a /56. A /56 is plenty for most I'd say.

    Yeah, I can't see myself using my /56 in my lifetime. What will I do with 256 networks? :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Richard Menedetter on Sun Jan 16 20:15:00 2022
    On 01-10-22 14:38, Richard Menedetter wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

    Or a /64 for residential.
    And you don't have to fuss around with how to subnet.
    The CPE simply announces the IPv6 net on the LAN side and you are done
    ;)

    There are arguments for more than a /64 for residential use. That allows for different subnets with different security profiles, such as for IoT, the car, whatever other network of smart devices you want. For many, I suspect a /60 would be sufficient.


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  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jan 16 12:53:00 2022
    Am 16.01.22 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    MvdV> Thanks. But you end I being right does not change the reality that the MvdV> transition is not completed and that we are past the point where it can MvdV> be done without becoming ugly. Some of us will have to make do without a MvdV> globally routable IPv4 address before IPv6 is the dominant protocol.

    At least the use of DS-Lite ISP connections makes it a little more
    apparent to the customers that IPv4 has some disadvantages over IPv6 nowadays.
    But I guess the vast majority of 'consumers' who only use simple web browsing, email and media streaming services won't notice it anyway.
    So in theory, the transition for those consumers can continue as long
    as the services that most people use are reachable via IPv6.

    :) I'm working for the local public library, a part of the
    municipality.

    MvdV> As a volunteer or as a payed employee? I think it makes a difference. As MvdV> a volunteer you may have more influence and more freedom to make a
    MvdV> difference.

    No, that's my full time job (and I get payed - lucky me *g*).
    And although I'm in the IT department of the library, there are other departments 'above' us who run the city-wide IT.

    And as I'm living in Germany, I'm happy that I do have a working
    computer and not only a typewriter and a fax machine. Our library
    building still has some IBM Type-1 cabling (from Token Ring-days) that AN>> we're using for Ethernet via some adapters... I don't think that IPv6
    days will come soon here...

    MvdV> While you equipment may be old, I do not think it is hopeless. Even
    MvdV> WIndows XP supports IPv6 and that IBM-1 cabling with ethernet adapter MvdV> should be IP version agnostic just like any other type of network cable.

    MvdV> So what is stopping you - other than a boss paying you salary - to do MvdV> some updating?

    Well, you're right (and yes, I know that even via 'real' Token Ring,
    you can use IPv6 *g*).
    My point was more in the direction of the mentality of German
    bureaucracy. Changes here take ages.
    We are still stuck to Microsoft (Windows, Office, AD... all the nice
    things that malware loves) and until this year we're still using Lotus
    Notes (Exchange/Outlook will follow ... *shiver*).

    And I'm trying to update things. We've moved out library management
    system to Linux servers some years ago (and now it's running much more
    stable and reliable than before) and are updating hardware as good as
    we can.
    But as said before, we're not on the top of the hierarchy in the municipality, we are dependant on others who run the network. So we
    can't move to IPv6 on our own :)

    MvdV> Sure. But there is a reason I took an account with them. Five years ago, MvdV> I figured there was a reasonable chance that I would loose my globally MvdV> routable IPv4 address. That is why I ran the DS-Lite emulation
    MvdV> experiments. I wanted to be prepared in case my ISP converted my
    MvdV> connection to DS-Lite. It has not happened yet. But when it happens, I MvdV> will be prepaired.

    That's always a good idea!
    I could set up a VPN tunnel to one of my vServers, or use some kind of service that you mentioned, to be reachable from outside again.
    Let's see how all this will turn out.

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Richard Menedetter on Mon Jan 17 00:38:38 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Richard!

    16 Jan 2022 11:35:42, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

    There are arguments for more than a /64 for residential use. That
    allows for different subnets with different security profiles, such
    as for IoT, the car, whatever other network of smart devices you
    want. For many, I suspect a /60 would be sufficient.
    Sure ... I agree. My reply was more from the ISP point of view.
    With 1 v6 subnet it is easy, you just announce the subnet.

    No: when you need to provide the customer with IPv6, you assign one fixed address for a link, and route a /64 subnet through that address.

    Plastic routers (those sold for 20 EUR) deal with this setup just fine.

    If you allow more, you need a way to configure them. (eg. VLANs,
    different subnet on different LAN port, etc.)

    Or simply route more /64 subnets through that address. Or /56 at once.

    That is added complexity for a low cost product, where most of your residential customers will have no clue what this is all about. So
    it makes more sense to offer that on higher tier (and more expensive) services.

    That violates the KISS principle.


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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Alexey Vissarionov on Tue Jan 18 14:52:16 2022
    Hi Alexey!

    17 Jan 2022 00:38, from Alexey Vissarionov -> Richard Menedetter:

    With 1 v6 subnet it is easy, you just announce the subnet.
    No: when you need to provide the customer with IPv6, you assign one
    fixed address for a link, and route a /64 subnet through that address. Plastic routers (those sold for 20 EUR) deal with this setup just
    fine.

    Yeah ... this is what I tried to say.
    If you have 1 /64 you deal with it easily also in the dumbest router.
    If you have multiple subnets you need a way to configure which subnet is announced where.
    This makes it more complicated.

    If you allow more, you need a way to configure them. (eg. VLANs,
    different subnet on different LAN port, etc.)
    Or simply route more /64 subnets through that address. Or /56 at once.

    This is not really beneficial.
    From my point of view it makes only sense if you can split them up into multiple different subnets.
    And for 95+% of people it makes no difference, or they do not care.
    So ISPs say that this is a business feature, that is only supported by more expensive routers and more expensive ISP services.

    That is added complexity for a low cost product, where most of
    your residential customers will have no clue what this is all
    about. So it makes more sense to offer that on higher tier (and
    more expensive) services.
    That violates the KISS principle.

    Yes, and that is exactly the reason why there is only one /64.
    Keep it simple.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Jan 18 14:57:04 2022
    Hi Michiel!

    18 Jan 2022 14:06, from Michiel van der Vlist -> Alexey Vissarionov:

    That violates the KISS principle.
    Indeed. It is easier to just give every customer a /56. And just route
    the first /64 to the LAN, so that the user need not configure anything
    if he only needs one /64. And the provider does not need to configure anything if the customer needs more.

    It is even simpler to just to hand out a /64 ;)

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Richard Menedetter on Wed Jan 19 18:18:00 2022
    On 01-16-22 11:35, Richard Menedetter wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    There are arguments for more than a /64 for residential use. That
    allows for different subnets with different security profiles, such as
    for IoT, the car, whatever other network of smart devices you want.
    For many, I suspect a /60 would be sufficient.

    Sure ... I agree.

    My reply was more from the ISP point of view.
    With 1 v6 subnet it is easy, you just announce the subnet.

    If you allow more, you need a way to configure them. (eg. VLANs,
    different subnet on different LAN port, etc.)

    True, and as the market demands it, this will become available (and the vendors will probably screw it up LOL). I know I can add a router behind the primary router. The main manual setup will be to assign a /64 to the LAN side of that router. The existing router will pick up the advertisements, setup routing and optionally open the firewall for that /64 (so that filtering can be controlled by the second router).

    I haven't put that to the test yet, but tempted to give it a try sometime, as a learning exercise. :)

    That is added complexity for a low cost product, where most of your residential customers will have no clue what this is all about.

    If the market demands it, it will come (and in a low cost, easy to use form).

    So it makes more sense to offer that on higher tier (and more
    expensive) services.

    I can see that changing. As I said, when separation of functional networks becomes a thing.



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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Jan 19 18:20:00 2022
    On 01-16-22 18:06, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Neither can I, but I can imagine some wanting/needing more than a /60. The "rule" should be "give them so much they will never come back for more". That wey they avoid having to make administrative exceptions for some customers. There is enough to give every customer a /56.

    Yeah, there is that argument. Over time, I can see myself using 3 or 4 /64s. More than 16 is unlikely, unless I start doing a lot of funky VPN stuff. ;)


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Jan 19 14:26:39 2022
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2022-01-19 12:36:15, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

    MvdV> 2) There is no shortage of addresses. Address space is no longer a
    MvdV> scarce commodity.

    It is for you, if your provider only gives you the bare minimum, and tries to sell you more... :-/

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Jan 19 15:10:21 2022
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2022-01-19 14:49:47, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>>> 2) There is no shortage of addresses. Address space is no
    MvdV>>> longer a scarce commodity.

    It is for you, if your provider only gives you the bare minimum, and
    tries to sell you more... :-/

    MvdV> In the context at hand, we were looking at it from the provider's POV. For
    MvdV> the provider there is plenty. No reason for the provider not to give their
    MvdV> customers at least a /56.

    Except when they think they can make an extra buck... :-/

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Jan 20 11:57:37 2022
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Wednesday January 19 2022 15:10, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> In the context at hand, we were looking at it from the
    MvdV>> provider's POV. For the provider there is plenty. No reason for
    MvdV>> the provider not to give their customers at least a /56.

    Except when they think they can make an extra buck... :-/

    Even without a degree in economics it should be obvious that making money on a commodity that is free and plentiful is not a sound bussines model.

    The current rate for an IPv4 address is around EUR 30. So making money on extra IPv4 should work. Trying teh same on IPv6 will not work, it will just make the customer go elsewhere.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jan 20 13:17:16 2022
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2022-01-20 11:57:37, you wrote to me:

    Except when they think they can make an extra buck... :-/

    MvdV> Even without a degree in economics it should be obvious that making money
    MvdV> on a commodity that is free and plentiful is not a sound bussines model.

    MvdV> The current rate for an IPv4 address is around EUR 30. So making money on
    MvdV> extra IPv4 should work. Trying teh same on IPv6 will not work, it will just
    MvdV> make the customer go elsewhere.

    That isn't always as simpel as it sounds...

    There are probably lots of places where providers still more or less have a monopoly.


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Jan 20 16:08:00 2022
    Am 18.01.22 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    No, that's my full time job (and I get payed - lucky me *g*).
    And although I'm in the IT department of the library, there are other
    departments 'above' us who run the city-wide IT.

    MvdV> So you hands are tied.

    Yep.

    Well, you're right (and yes, I know that even via 'real' Token Ring,
    you can use IPv6 *g*).

    MvdV> I don't think anybody has tried it, but yes in theorie it should be
    MvdV> possible.

    Yes, as it is another layer.

    MvdV> Here there is a directive that says all goverment websites (national, MvdV> provicial and minicipal) must be reachable via IPv6 before 1 jan 2022.

    I don't know of such a rule here in Germany...

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Jan 20 23:56:59 2022
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Thursday January 20 2022 13:17, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> The current rate for an IPv4 address is around EUR 30. So
    MvdV>> making money on extra IPv4 should work. Trying teh same on IPv6
    MvdV>> will not work, it will just make the customer go elsewhere.

    That isn't always as simpel as it sounds...

    There are probably lots of places where providers still more or less
    have a monopoly.

    Yes, ther are situations where the provider has a (semi) monopoly. There are also situations where the provider only issues one /64 to customers. I do not know if thee are situations where providers charge extra for more that one /64.

    How often will we see the combination of all three? I do not know of any.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Jan 21 10:21:00 2022
    On 01-19-22 12:21, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I did just that a couple of years ago to test prefix delegation. I connected a second router behind my primary router and IIRC it got a
    /61 out of the /56 assigned to me. Of that /61, one /64 was routed to
    the local LAN of the second router. I presume the process allows for cascading routers until the /56 is exhausted, but I did not explore
    that. I was satisfied that I demonstrated prefix delegation worked.

    Sounds like the results I'd expect. When I move house later in the year, I may segment my network physically, which would mean IPv4 subnets (which arrive via tunnels) could be on separate wires, and I could delegate IPv4 prefixes to those physical subnets. Just a thought at this stage, still in the very early planning stages. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Jan 21 10:27:00 2022
    On 01-19-22 12:36, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    We also have to get rid of IPv4 think. On top of that list are:

    1) NAT is not a security feature.

    True, and a packet filter defaulting to blocking incoming traffic (like a lot of IPv6 routers do) has the same net effect, without the NAT ugliness.

    2) There is no shortage of addresses. Address space is no longer a
    scarce commodity.

    Good point. Anyone got the figures for how many /56 prefixes are available? All the estimates of abailable address space focus on single addresses, but really, /64s should be considered in these analyses, because that's effectively the smallest (convenient) LAN segment intended to be assigned.

    With the mind still in IPv4 think mode, giving out a /56 to everyone while the vast majority will get no further than using 1 or 2% of that looks like a terrible waste.

    Then consider that "waste" is only an issue if there is shortage. With IPv6 there is no shortage of addreses. Thinking "waste" is IPv4 think.
    We have to get rid of that.

    That's why I'd like some more relevant figures, taking into account current allocation practices (e.g. /56 per resifential customer, /64 minimum subnet allocation).


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    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Mar 4 17:41:00 2022
    Am 10.01.22 schrieb Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 in IPV6:

    Hallo Michiel,

    Same here. The IPv6 connection for my BBS also had problems on friday
    because Dynv6 'forgot' the AAAA record that I've configured - but it
    seems to be a known problem. Maybe I rewrite the update script (and
    recreate the AAAA record on every prefix change) or switch to my own
    dyndns solution...

    MvdV> We patiently wait... ;-)
    MvdV> Please share your experience with us.

    I just noticed that Dynv6 lost my AAAA record again, so I chose to
    update my update script.
    Dynv6 is offering the use of 'nsupdate', and as I'm already using
    nsupdate for my own DynDNS solution, I just added a nsupdate call for
    my Dynv6 zone to the script.
    It's basically working as noted in the API documentation: https://dynv6.com/docs/apis

    I hope that this solves the Dynv6 AAAA problem now - I hope that my
    IPv6 prefix changes more often than Dynv6 forgets my AAAA record :)

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Imzadi Box Point (2:240/5824.1)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Wed Apr 20 09:31:15 2022
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 20 April 2022


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Xs4All f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OVH
    8 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    9 1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Native Spectrum f
    10 2:203/0 Bjorn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    11 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native Xs4All f INO4
    12 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    13 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov T-6in4 he.net f 6DWN
    14 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    15 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    16 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek T-6in4 he.net
    17 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    18 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    19 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    20 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    21 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/100 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native OVH
    34 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    35 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    36 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    37 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    38 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    39 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    40 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    41 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    42 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    43 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    44 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    45 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    46 2:467/239 Mykhailo Kapitanov Native Vultr f
    47 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    48 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    49 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    50 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    51 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    52 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 he.net
    53 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    54 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net f
    55 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    56 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    57 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko Native ER-Telecom f
    58 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native SAGE-SU-V6
    59 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus
    60 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    61 2:5053/400 Alexander Kruglikov Native FirstVDS f
    62 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    63 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    64 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    65 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    66 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    67 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    68 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    69 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native OVH
    70 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US f
    71 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    72 1:106/633 William Williams Native LINODE-US PM *1
    73 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    74 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    75 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers f
    76 1:142/103 Brian Rogers T-6in4 he.net
    77 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    78 2:280/2030 Martien Korenblom Native Transip
    79 3:633/509 Deon George Native Telstra
    80 2:5020/4441 Yuri Myakotin Native SOVINTEL
    81 1:320/319 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    82 2:240/5824 Anna Christina Nass Native DTAG f
    83 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    84 2:5030/3165 Serg Podtynnyi Native DIGITALOCEAN
    85 2:301/812 Benoit Panizon Native WOODYV6
    86 1:229/616 Vasily Losev Native GIGEPORT
    87 2:301/113 Alisha Manuela Stutz T-6in4 he.net
    88 1:134/100 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    89 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    90 1:134/102 Shelley Petersen T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    91 1:134/103 Gordon Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    92 1:134/301 Brandon Moore T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    93 1:134/302 Adam Park T-6in4 he.net f
    94 1:153/7715 Dallas Hinton Native Shaw Comms
    95 1:218/840 Morgan Collins Native Linode
    96 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin T-6in4 he.net
    97 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Vodafone
    98 2:280/2040 Leo Barnhoorn Native KPN f
    99 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    100 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f INO4
    101 1:266/420 Scott Street Native Comcast OO
    102 1:218/850 John Nicpon Native LINODE-US
    103 1:142/104 Clive Reuben Native SNETFCC-1
    104 2:301/1 Alisha Stutz Native CH-DATAWIRE
    105 3:633/267 Andrew Clarke Native Widebandnetv6
    106 2:5035/63 Vladimir Goncharov Native RFEIV6NET
    107 2:5010/152 Dmitry Smirnov Native RU-SELECTCEL
    108 2:5010/252 Dmitry Smirnov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-1
    109 2:5020/290 Andrew Kolchoogin T-6in4 he.net


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    HOLD The node is temporarely off-line. Mail may be routed.
    DOWN This node is Down for both IPv4 and IPv6 and will be
    removed from this list if the condition pertains.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 [2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe2b:c319]


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed May 18 18:54:16 2022
    Hi Michiel.

    18 May 22 09:02:36, you wrote to All:

    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555
    Updated 14 May 2022

    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f

    ^
    Elisa

    I think I mentioned about that in this echo some time ago?

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi (2:221/360)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed May 18 18:58:26 2022
    Hi Michiel.

    18 May 22 18:54, I wrote to you:

    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f

    ^
    Elisa

    I think I mentioned about that in this echo some time ago?

    Yes. "04 Feb 2022". :)

    'Tommi

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220424
    * Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Wed May 18 23:16:08 2022
    Hello Tommi,

    On Wednesday May 18 2022 18:54, you wrote to me:


    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f

    ^
    Elisa

    I think I mentioned about that in this echo some time ago?

    Sorry, I must have missed it. It has been corrected now.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Thu May 19 15:04:19 2022
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 19 May 2022


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen T-6in4 he.net f PO4
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Elisa f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OVH
    8 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    9 1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Native Spectrum f
    10 2:203/0 Bjorn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    11 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f INO4
    12 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    13 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov T-6in4 he.net f
    14 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    15 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    16 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native CZ-IJC-20071015
    17 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    18 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    19 2:463/877 Alex Shuman Native Nline f IO
    20 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    21 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    22 3:770/100 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    23 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    24 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    25 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    26 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    27 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    28 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    29 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    30 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    31 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    32 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    33 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native OVH
    34 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    35 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    36 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    37 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    38 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    39 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    40 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    41 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    42 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FORPSI Ktis f
    43 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    44 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    45 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    46 2:467/239 Mykhailo Kapitanov Native Vultr f
    47 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    48 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    49 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    50 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    51 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    52 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-0
    53 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    54 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net f
    55 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    56 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    57 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko Native ER-Telecom f
    58 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native SAGE-SU-V6
    59 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus
    60 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    61 2:5053/400 Alexander Kruglikov Native FirstVDS f
    62 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    63 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    64 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    65 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    66 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    67 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    68 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    69 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native OVH
    70 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US f
    71 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    72 1:106/633 William Williams Native LINODE-US PM *1
    73 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    74 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    75 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers f
    76 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    77 2:280/2030 Martien Korenblom Native Transip
    78 3:633/509 Deon George Native Telstra
    79 2:5020/4441 Yuri Myakotin Native SOVINTEL
    80 1:320/319 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    81 2:240/5824 Anna Christina Nass Native DTAG f
    82 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    83 2:5030/3165 Serg Podtynnyi Native DIGITALOCEAN
    84 2:301/812 Benoit Panizon Native WOODYV6
    85 1:229/616 Vasily Losev Native GIGEPORT
    86 2:301/113 Alisha Manuela Stutz T-6in4 he.net
    87 1:134/100 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    88 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    89 1:134/102 Shelley Petersen T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    90 1:134/103 Gordon Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    91 1:134/301 Brandon Moore T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    92 1:134/302 Adam Park T-6in4 he.net f
    93 1:153/7715 Dallas Hinton Native Shaw Comms
    94 1:218/840 Morgan Collins Native Linode
    95 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native HURRICANE-IPV6-24
    96 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Vodafone
    97 2:280/2040 Leo Barnhoorn Native KPN f
    98 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    99 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f INO4
    100 1:266/420 Scott Street Native Comcast OO
    101 1:218/850 John Nicpon Native LINODE-US
    102 1:142/104 Clive Reuben Native SNETFCC-1
    103 2:301/1 Alisha Stutz Native CH-DATAWIRE
    104 3:633/267 Andrew Clarke Native Widebandnetv6
    105 2:5035/63 Vladimir Goncharov Native RFEIV6NET
    106 2:5010/152 Dmitry Smirnov Native RU-SELECTCEL
    107 2:5010/252 Dmitry Smirnov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-1
    108 2:5020/290 Andrew Kolchoogin T-6in4 he.net


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    HOLD The node is temporarely off-line. Mail may be routed.
    DOWN This node is Down for both IPv4 and IPv6 and will be
    removed from this list if the condition pertains.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 [2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe2b:c319]


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Sun Jun 26 12:48:00 2022
    Hello All,

    Please check your entry. Ig it needs updateing, please let me know.


    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 26 Jun 2022


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Freedom f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f OO
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Elisa f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OVH
    8 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    9 1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Native Spectrum f
    10 2:203/0 Bjorn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    11 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f INO4
    12 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    13 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov T-6in4 he.net f
    14 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    15 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    16 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native CZ-IJC-20071015
    17 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    18 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    19 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    20 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    21 3:770/100 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    22 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    23 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    24 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    25 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    26 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    27 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    28 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    29 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    30 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    31 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    32 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native OVH
    33 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    35 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    36 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    37 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    38 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    39 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    40 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    41 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FirstByte
    42 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    43 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    44 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    45 2:467/239 Mykhailo Kapitanov Native Vultr f
    46 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    47 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    48 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    49 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    50 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    51 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-0
    52 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    53 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net f
    54 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    55 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    56 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko Native ER-Telecom f
    57 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native SAGE-SU-V6
    58 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus
    59 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    60 2:5053/400 Alexander Kruglikov Native FirstVDS f
    61 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    62 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    63 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    64 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    65 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    66 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    67 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    68 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native OVH
    69 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US f
    70 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    71 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    72 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    73 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers f
    74 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    75 2:280/2030 Martien Korenblom Native Transip
    76 3:633/509 Deon George Native Telstra
    77 2:5020/4441 Yuri Myakotin Native SOVINTEL
    78 1:320/319 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    79 2:240/5824 Anna Christina Nass Native DTAG f
    80 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    81 2:5030/3165 Serg Podtynnyi Native DIGITALOCEAN
    82 2:301/812 Benoit Panizon Native WOODYV6
    83 1:229/616 Vasily Losev Native GIGEPORT
    84 2:301/113 Alisha Manuela Stutz T-6in4 he.net
    85 1:134/100 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    86 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    87 1:134/102 Shelley Petersen T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    88 1:134/103 Gordon Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    89 1:134/301 Brandon Moore T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    90 1:134/302 Adam Park T-6in4 he.net f
    91 1:153/7715 Dallas Hinton Native Shaw Comms
    92 1:218/840 Morgan Collins Native Linode
    93 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native HURRICANE-IPV6-24
    94 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Vodafone
    95 2:280/2040 Leo Barnhoorn Native KPN f
    96 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    97 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f INO4
    97 1:266/420 Scott Street Native Comcast OO
    99 1:218/850 John Nicpon Native LINODE-US
    100 1:142/104 Clive Reuben Native SNETFCC-1
    101 2:301/1 Alisha Stutz Native CH-DATAWIRE
    102 3:633/267 Andrew Clarke Native Widebandnetv6
    103 2:5035/63 Vladimir Goncharov Native RFEIV6NET
    104 2:5010/152 Dmitry Smirnov Native RU-SELECTCEL
    105 2:5010/252 Dmitry Smirnov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-1
    106 2:5020/290 Andrew Kolchoogin T-6in4 he.net


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    HOLD The node is temporarely off-line. Mail may be routed.
    DOWN This node is Down for both IPv4 and IPv6 and will be
    removed from this list if the condition pertains.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.



    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664.2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jun 26 20:00:11 2022
    *** Quoting Michiel van der Vlist from a message to All ***

    Please check your entry. Ig it needs updateing, please let me know.

    96 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    97 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f INO4
    97 1:266/420 Scott Street Native Comcast OO
    99 1:218/850 John Nicpon Native LINODE-US

    Just a nit pick, 97 appears twice, though the count is correct. :)


    Jay

    ... It is impossible to please the whole world and your mother-in-law

    --- Telegard v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
    * Origin: Northern Realms/TG ì tg.nrbbs.net ì Binbrook, ON (1:229/664.2)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Jay Harris on Mon Jun 27 07:19:36 2022
    Hello Jay,

    On Sunday June 26 2022 20:00, you wrote to me:

    97 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f INO4
    97 1:266/420 Scott Street Native Comcast

    Just a nit pick, 97 appears twice, though the count is correct. :)

    Thanks.

    Has been fixed.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Mon Jul 18 18:29:28 2022
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 18 July 2022


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Freedom f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Elisa f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OVH
    8 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    9 1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Native Spectrum f
    10 2:203/0 Bjorn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    11 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f INO4
    12 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    13 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov T-6in4 he.net f
    14 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    15 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    16 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native CZ-IJC-20071015
    17 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    18 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    19 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    20 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    21 3:770/100 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    22 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    23 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    24 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    25 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    26 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    27 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    28 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    29 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    30 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    31 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    32 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native OVH
    33 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    35 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    36 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    37 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    38 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    39 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    40 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    41 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FirstByte
    42 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    43 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    44 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    45 2:467/239 Mykhailo Kapitanov Native Vultr f
    46 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    47 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    48 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    49 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    50 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    51 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-0
    52 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    53 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net f
    54 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    55 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    56 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko Native ER-Telecom f
    57 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native SAGE-SU-V6
    58 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus
    59 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    60 2:5053/400 Alexander Kruglikov Native FirstVDS f
    61 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    62 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    63 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    64 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    65 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    66 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    67 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    68 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native OVH
    69 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US f
    70 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    71 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    72 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    73 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers f
    74 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    75 2:280/2030 Martien Korenblom Native Transip
    76 3:633/509 Deon George Native Telstra
    77 2:5020/4441 Yuri Myakotin Native SOVINTEL
    78 1:320/319 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    79 2:240/5824 Anna Christina Nass Native DTAG f
    80 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    81 2:5030/3165 Serg Podtynnyi Native DIGITALOCEAN
    82 2:301/812 Benoit Panizon Native WOODYV6
    83 1:229/616 Vasily Losev Native GIGEPORT
    84 2:301/113 Alisha Manuela Stutz T-6in4 he.net
    85 1:134/100 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    86 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    87 1:134/102 Shelley Petersen T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    88 1:134/103 Gordon Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    89 1:134/301 Brandon Moore T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    90 1:134/302 Adam Park T-6in4 he.net f
    91 1:153/7715 Dallas Hinton Native Shaw Comms
    92 1:218/840 Morgan Collins Native Linode
    93 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native HURRICANE-IPV6-24
    94 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Vodafone
    95 2:280/2040 Leo Barnhoorn Native KPN f
    96 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    97 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f INO4
    98 1:266/420 Scott Street Native Comcast OO
    99 1:218/850 John Nicpon Native LINODE-US
    100 1:142/104 Clive Reuben Native SNETFCC-1
    101 2:301/1 Alisha Stutz Native CH-DATAWIRE
    102 3:633/267 Andrew Clarke Native Widebandnetv6
    103 2:5035/63 Vladimir Goncharov Native RFEIV6NET
    104 2:5010/252 Dmitry Smirnov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-1
    105 2:5020/290 Andrew Kolchoogin T-6in4 he.net
    106 1:218/401 James Downs Native Scaleway PM *1


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    HOLD The node is temporarely off-line. Mail may be routed.
    DOWN This node is Down for both IPv4 and IPv6 and will be
    removed from this list if the condition pertains.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 lounge.egontech.com

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Sun Jul 31 10:46:34 2022
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 31 July 2022


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Freedom f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Elisa f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OVH
    8 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    9 1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Native Spectrum f
    10 2:203/0 Bjorn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    11 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f INO4
    12 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    13 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov T-6in4 he.net f
    14 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    15 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    16 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native CZ-IJC-20071015
    17 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    18 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    19 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    20 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    21 3:770/100 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    22 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    23 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    24 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    25 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    26 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    27 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    28 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    29 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    30 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    31 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    32 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native OVH
    33 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    35 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    36 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f 6DWN
    37 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    38 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    39 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    40 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    41 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FirstByte
    42 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    43 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    44 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    45 2:467/239 Mykhailo Kapitanov Native Vultr f
    46 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    47 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    48 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native Xs4All
    49 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    50 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    51 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-0
    52 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    53 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net f
    54 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    55 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    56 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko Native ER-Telecom f
    57 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native SAGE-SU-V6
    58 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus
    59 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    60 2:5053/400 Alexander Kruglikov Native FirstVDS f
    61 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    62 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    63 2:2452/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG 6DWN
    64 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    65 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    66 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    67 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    68 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native OVH
    69 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US f
    70 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    71 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    72 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    73 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers f
    74 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    75 2:280/2030 Martien Korenblom Native Transip
    76 3:633/509 Deon George Native Telstra
    77 2:5020/4441 Yuri Myakotin Native SOVINTEL
    78 1:320/319 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    79 2:240/5824 Anna Christina Nass Native DTAG f
    80 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    81 2:5030/3165 Serg Podtynnyi Native DIGITALOCEAN
    82 2:301/812 Benoit Panizon Native WOODYV6
    83 1:229/616 Vasily Losev Native GIGEPORT
    84 2:301/113 Alisha Manuela Stutz T-6in4 he.net
    85 1:134/100 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    86 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    87 1:134/102 Shelley Petersen T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    88 1:134/103 Gordon Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    89 1:134/301 Brandon Moore T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    90 1:134/302 Adam Park T-6in4 he.net f
    91 1:153/7715 Dallas Hinton Native Shaw Comms
    92 1:218/840 Morgan Collins Native Linode
    93 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native HURRICANE-IPV6-24
    94 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Vodafone
    95 2:280/2040 Leo Barnhoorn Native KPN f
    96 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    97 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f INO4
    98 1:266/420 Scott Street Native Comcast OO
    99 1:218/850 John Nicpon Native LINODE-US
    100 1:142/104 Clive Reuben Native SNETFCC-1
    101 2:301/1 Alisha Stutz Native CH-DATAWIRE
    102 3:633/267 Andrew Clarke Native Widebandnetv6
    103 2:5035/63 Vladimir Goncharov Native RFEIV6NET
    104 2:5010/252 Dmitry Smirnov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-1
    105 2:5020/290 Andrew Kolchoogin T-6in4 he.net
    106 1:218/401 James Downs Native Scaleway PM *1
    107 1:214/22 Ray Quinn t-6in4 he.net
    108 2:5030/49 Sergey Myasoedov Native FR-VIRTUA-SYSTEMS
    109 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DIGITALOCEAN


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    HOLD The node is temporarely off-line. Mail may be routed.
    DOWN This node is Down for both IPv4 and IPv6 and will be
    removed from this list if the condition pertains.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 lounge.egontech.com

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Ray Quinn@1:214/23 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jul 31 05:22:08 2022
    Hello Michiel!

    31 Jul 22 10:46, you wrote to all:

    107 1:214/22 Ray Quinn t-6in4 he.net

    T-6in4 Static 6in4

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)

    I once had mine set up for this. For the life of me, I cannot find out what I did to make it work. It seems that I failed to backup the network settings when "upgrading" the last time. Can someone point me in the right direction? Using Debian 11 (bullseye)

    73 de W6RAY Ray Quinn
    Visalia, CA DM06II
    Ham Shack Hotline 4655

    If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body,
    then only left-handed people are in their right mind.

    --- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Ray's Road Node | Somewhere in California. (1:214/23)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Ray Quinn on Sun Jul 31 15:56:46 2022
    Hello Ray!

    31 Jul 22 05:22, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)

    I once had mine set up for this. For the life of me, I cannot find out what I did to make it work. It seems that I failed to backup the network settings when "upgrading" the last time. Can someone point me in the right direction? Using Debian 11 (bullseye)

    I added something like this to /etc/network/interfaces.
    Ignore the fact that I use a vlan, just use the interface name you use.

    iface vlan102 inet6 auto
    pre-up ip token set ::f1d0:2:280:5003 dev $IFACE

    Kees

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5--b20180707
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Ray Quinn on Sun Jul 31 16:32:22 2022
    Hello Ray!

    31 Jul 22 05:22, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)

    I once had mine set up for this. For the life of me, I cannot find out what I did to make it work. It seems that I failed to backup the network settings when "upgrading" the last time. Can someone point me in the right direction? Using Debian 11 (bullseye)

    Even more simple. On a Raspberry Pi I use just.

    -----------------
    auto eth0
    iface eth0 inet dhcp
    pre-up ip token set ::f1d0:2:280:5006 dev $IFACE
    ----------------

    Kees

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5--b20180707
    * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)
  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664.1 to Ray Quinn on Sun Jul 31 10:45:38 2022
    *** Quoting Ray Quinn from a message to Michiel van der Vlist ***

    I once had mine set up for this. For the life of me, I cannot find
    out what I did to make it work. It seems that I failed to backup the network settings when "upgrading" the last time. Can someone point me
    in the right direction? Using Debian 11 (bullseye)

    This is how I have it setup on Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS. I had to do something different on my Pi install, but I can't find those instructions anymore, it was more complicated.


    sudo nano /etc/netplan/00-installer-config.yaml

    # This is the network config written by 'subiquity'
    network:
    ethernets:
    ens160:
    dhcp4: true
    ipv6-address-token: "::f1d0:1:229:664"
    version: 2


    I believe all of the lines were already there, I just had to add in the the ipv6-address-token line.


    Jay

    ... I've started sleeping in our fireplace. Now I sleep like a log!

    --- Telegard v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
    * Origin: Northern Realms/TG ì tg.nrbbs.net ì Binbrook, ON (1:229/664.1)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Tue Nov 1 22:55:54 2022
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 1 November 2022


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Freedom f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Elisa f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OVH
    8 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    9 1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Native Spectrum f
    10 2:203/0 Bjorn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    11 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f INO4
    12 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    13 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov T-6in4 he.net f
    14 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    15 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    16 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native CZ-IJC-20071015
    17 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    18 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    19 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    20 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    21 3:770/100 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    22 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    23 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    24 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    25 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    26 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    27 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    28 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    29 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    30 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    31 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    32 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native OVH
    33 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    35 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    36 2:240/5413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f PM *4
    37 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    38 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    39 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    40 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    41 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FirstByte
    42 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    43 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    44 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    45 2:467/239 Mykhailo Kapitanov Native Vultr f
    46 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    47 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    48 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native KPN
    49 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    50 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    51 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-0
    52 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    53 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net f
    54 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    55 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    56 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko Native ER-Telecom f
    57 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native SAGE-SU-V6
    58 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus
    59 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    60 2:5053/400 Alexander Kruglikov Native FirstVDS f
    61 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    62 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    63 2:240/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG PM *3
    64 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    65 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    66 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    67 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    68 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native OVH
    69 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US f
    70 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    71 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    72 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    73 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers f
    74 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    75 2:280/2030 Martien Korenblom Native Transip
    76 3:633/509 Deon George Native Telstra
    77 2:5020/4441 Yuri Myakotin Native SOVINTEL
    78 1:320/319 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    79 2:240/5824 Anna Christina Nass Native DTAG f
    80 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    81 2:5030/3165 Serg Podtynnyi Native DIGITALOCEAN
    82 2:301/812 Benoit Panizon Native WOODYV6
    83 1:229/616 Vasily Losev Native GIGEPORT
    84 2:301/113 Alisha Manuela Stutz T-6in4 he.net
    85 1:134/100 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    86 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    87 1:134/102 Shelley Petersen T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    88 1:134/103 Gordon Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    89 1:134/301 Brandon Moore T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    90 1:134/302 Adam Park T-6in4 he.net f
    91 1:153/7715 Dallas Hinton Native Shaw Comms
    92 1:218/840 Morgan Collins Native Linode
    93 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native HURRICANE-IPV6-24
    94 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Vodafone
    95 2:280/2040 Leo Barnhoorn Native KPN f
    96 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    97 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f INO4
    98 1:266/420 Scott Street Native Comcast OO
    99 1:218/850 John Nicpon Native LINODE-US
    100 1:142/104 Clive Reuben Native SNETFCC-1
    101 2:301/1 Alisha Stutz Native CH-DATAWIRE
    102 3:633/267 Andrew Clarke Native Widebandnetv6
    103 2:5035/63 Vladimir Goncharov Native RFEIV6NET
    104 2:5010/252 Dmitry Smirnov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-1
    105 2:5020/290 Andrew Kolchoogin T-6in4 he.net
    106 1:218/401 James Downs Native Scaleway PM *1
    107 1:214/22 Ray Quinn t-6in4 he.net
    108 2:5030/49 Sergey Myasoedov Native FR-VIRTUA-SYSTEMS
    109 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DIGITALOCEAN
    110 1:135/395 Charles Blackburn Native BHN-CPE PM *2


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    HOLD The node is temporarely off-line. Mail may be routed.
    DOWN This node is Down for both IPv4 and IPv6 and will be
    removed from this list if the condition pertains.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 lounge.egontech.com
    PM *2 bbs.thefbo.us
    PM *3 Was: 2:2452/502
    PM *4 Was: 2:2452/413

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Nov 2 12:06:44 2022
    Hi Michiel!

    Tuesday November 01 2022 22:55, you wrote to All:

    MvdV> 80 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    MvdV> INO4

    [fido@brorabbit inbound]$ grep ',5858,' ~/nodelist/nodelist.367 ,5858,For_Technical_Purposes,Simferopol_Crimea,Brother_Rabbit,-Unpublished-,300 ,MO,CM,IBN,INA:burrow.g0x.ru,INO4

    ;)

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Nov 2 16:53:10 2022
    Hi Michiel!

    Wednesday November 02 2022 10:14, you wrote to me:

    Tuesday November 01 2022 22:55, you wrote to All:

    MvdV>>> 80 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net
    MvdV>>> f INO4

    [fido@brorabbit inbound]$ grep ',5858,' ~/nodelist/nodelist.367
    ,5858,For_Technical_Purposes,Simferopol_Crimea,Brother_Rabbit,-Unpubli
    shed-,300 ,MO,CM,IBN,INA:burrow.g0x.ru,INO4

    MvdV> Your point?

    This node is on my desktop computer. It is used for debugging and testing software.

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Nov 8 21:52:28 2022
    Hello Michiel!

    02 Nov 2022 10:14, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    MvdV> Hello Stas,

    MvdV> On Wednesday November 02 2022 12:06, you wrote to me:

    Tuesday November 01 2022 22:55, you wrote to All:

    MvdV>>> 80 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net
    MvdV>>> f INO4

    [fido@brorabbit inbound]$ grep ',5858,' ~/nodelist/nodelist.367
    ,5858,For_Technical_Purposes,Simferopol_Crimea,Brother_Rabbit,-Unpubli
    shed-,300 ,MO,CM,IBN,INA:burrow.g0x.ru,INO4

    MvdV> Your point?

    space after 300


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/6.0.5-gentoo-dist (x86_64))
    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Benny Pedersen on Wed Nov 9 09:33:08 2022
    Hi Benny!

    Tuesday November 08 2022 21:52, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    MvdV>>>> 80 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net
    MvdV>>>> f INO4

    [fido@brorabbit inbound]$ grep ',5858,' ~/nodelist/nodelist.367
    ,5858,For_Technical_Purposes,Simferopol_Crimea,Brother_Rabbit,-Unpubli
    shed-,300 ,MO,CM,IBN,INA:burrow.g0x.ru,INO4

    MvdV>> Your point?

    space after 300

    It's not my. :)

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Benny Pedersen on Wed Nov 9 14:29:08 2022
    shed-,300 ,MO,CM,IBN,INA:burrow.g0x.ru,INO4

    MvdV>> Your point?

    space after 300

    That's a line wrap error. Some antiquated FTN editors still don't support format=flowed as defined in RFC3676.


    --
    United we are strong, we win. Divided we are weak, we lose.

    ..

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
    * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed Nov 9 14:32:43 2022
    space after 300

    It's not my. :)

    Of course not. That would have caused an ;E line in the nodelist, if I recall correctly from my MakeNl reverse engineering days. 8-)


    --
    United we are strong, we win. Divided we are weak, we lose.

    ..

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
    * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Björn Felten on Wed Nov 9 17:07:42 2022
    *** Answering a msg posted in area _Carbon.Mail (Carbon.Mail).

    Hi Bj”rn!

    Wednesday November 09 2022 14:32, you wrote to me:

    space after 300

    It's not my. :)

    Of course not. That would have caused an ;E line in the nodelist, if I recall correctly from my MakeNl reverse engineering days. 8-)

    In my case it was af fall of quoting. Take a look at the original message.

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Ingo Juergensmann@2:240/5413 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Jan 16 18:52:30 2023
    Hello Michiel!

    08 Oct 22 19:40, you wrote to all:

    36 2:2452/413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f

    I think this should be changed to 2:240/5413 after net 2:2452 shut down.

    Ingo


    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5--b20170303
    * Origin: AmigaXess - back in FidoNet after 17 years (2:240/5413)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to All on Fri Mar 24 17:26:00 2023
    =============================================================================
    * Forwarded by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/5858)
    * Area : NetMail.Stas (NetMail.Stas)
    * From : Fidogle, 2:460/58 (Friday March 24 2023 17:22)
    * To : Stas Mishchenkov
    * Subj : Your request reply. ============================================================================= ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
    EchoArea: IPV6 Date: 02.11.2022
    From: Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555
    To : All
    Subj: List of IPv6 nodes ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ @MSGID: 2:280/5555 6361961e
    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 1 November 2022


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Freedom f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Elisa f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OVH
    8 2:5030/257 Vova Uralsky Native PCextreme
    9 1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Native Spectrum f
    10 2:203/0 Bjorn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    11 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f INO4
    12 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    13 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov T-6in4 he.net f
    14 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    15 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0
    16 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native CZ-IJC-20071015
    17 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    18 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    19 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    20 3:770/1 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    21 3:770/100 Paul Hayton T-6in4 he.net
    22 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native TTK-Volga f
    23 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    24 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    25 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    26 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    27 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    28 2:246/1305 Emil Schuster Native TAL.DE
    29 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    30 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    31 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    32 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native OVH
    33 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    34 2:240/5853 Philipp Giebel Native Hetzner
    35 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    36 2:240/5413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f PM *4
    37 1:123/10 Wayne Smith T-6in4 he.net
    38 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    39 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    40 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    41 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FirstByte
    42 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    43 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    44 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    45 2:467/239 Mykhailo Kapitanov Native Vultr f
    46 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    47 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 TUNNELBROKER-0 f
    48 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native KPN
    49 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    50 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    51 2:5020/2123 Anton Samsonov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-0
    52 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    53 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net f
    54 2:5005/77 Valery Lutoshkin T-6in4 NTS f
    55 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    56 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko Native ER-Telecom f
    57 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native SAGE-SU-V6
    58 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus
    59 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    60 2:5053/400 Alexander Kruglikov Native FirstVDS f
    61 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    62 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    63 2:240/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG PM *3
    64 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    65 2:5080/102 Stas Degteff T-6to4 NOVATOR
    66 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    67 1:102/127 Bradley Thornton Native Hetzner
    68 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native OVH
    69 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US f
    70 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC-NET
    71 2:263/5 Martin List-Petersen Native TuxBox
    72 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    73 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers f
    74 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    75 2:280/2030 Martien Korenblom Native Transip
    76 3:633/509 Deon George Native Telstra
    77 2:5020/4441 Yuri Myakotin Native SOVINTEL
    78 1:320/319 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    79 2:240/5824 Anna Christina Nass Native DTAG f
    80 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    81 2:5030/3165 Serg Podtynnyi Native DIGITALOCEAN
    82 2:301/812 Benoit Panizon Native WOODYV6
    83 1:229/616 Vasily Losev Native GIGEPORT
    84 2:301/113 Alisha Manuela Stutz T-6in4 he.net
    85 1:134/100 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    86 1:134/101 Kostie Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    87 1:134/102 Shelley Petersen T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    88 1:134/103 Gordon Muirhead T-6in4 he.net f
    89 1:134/301 Brandon Moore T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    90 1:134/302 Adam Park T-6in4 he.net f
    91 1:153/7715 Dallas Hinton Native Shaw Comms
    92 1:218/840 Morgan Collins Native Linode
    93 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native HURRICANE-IPV6-24
    94 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Vodafone
    95 2:280/2040 Leo Barnhoorn Native KPN f
    96 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    97 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f INO4
    98 1:266/420 Scott Street Native Comcast OO
    99 1:218/850 John Nicpon Native LINODE-US
    100 1:142/104 Clive Reuben Native SNETFCC-1
    101 2:301/1 Alisha Stutz Native CH-DATAWIRE
    102 3:633/267 Andrew Clarke Native Widebandnetv6
    103 2:5035/63 Vladimir Goncharov Native RFEIV6NET
    104 2:5010/252 Dmitry Smirnov T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET-1
    105 2:5020/290 Andrew Kolchoogin T-6in4 he.net
    106 1:218/401 James Downs Native Scaleway PM *1
    107 1:214/22 Ray Quinn t-6in4 he.net
    108 2:5030/49 Sergey Myasoedov Native FR-VIRTUA-SYSTEMS
    109 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DIGITALOCEAN
    110 1:135/395 Charles Blackburn Native BHN-CPE PM *2


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    HOLD The node is temporarely off-line. Mail may be routed.
    DOWN This node is Down for both IPv4 and IPv6 and will be
    removed from this list if the condition pertains.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 lounge.egontech.com
    PM *2 bbs.thefbo.us
    PM *3 Was: 2:2452/502
    PM *4 Was: 2:2452/413

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


    -+- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
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    Hi All!

    Has there really been no change since November 1, 2022?

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Apr 10 12:49:13 2023
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2023-04-04 22:54:13, you wrote to All:

    MvdV> 36 2:240/5413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f

    Just noticed this one:

    Calling 2:240/5413 (2a01:a700:4629:211:f1d0:2:240:5413:24554)
    error (Connection timed out)

    IPv4 is ok for this node...


    Bye, Wilfred.

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    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Ingo Juergensmann@2:240/5413 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Apr 16 12:21:08 2023
    Hello Michiel!

    10 Apr 23 15:36, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    Just noticed this one:
    Calling 2:240/5413 (2a01:a700:4629:211:f1d0:2:240:5413:24554)
    error (Connection timed out)
    IPv4 is ok for this node...
    Netmail send to sysop.

    ... and answered & fixed... :)

    Ingo


    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5--b20170303
    * Origin: AmigaXess - back in FidoNet after 17 years (2:240/5413)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Apr 26 17:15:20 2023
    Hi Michiel.

    I have checked all the remaining nodes in the list for connectivity
    and as a result more nodes have been flagged 6DWN or even DOWN...

    What happened to 2:221/10 ?

    'Tommi

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
    * Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Apr 26 17:23:00 2023
    Hi Michiel.

    26 Apr 23 17:15, I wrote to you:

    Hi Michiel.

    I have checked all the remaining nodes in the list for connectivity
    and as a result more nodes have been flagged 6DWN or even DOWN...

    What happened to 2:221/10 ?

    + 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] incoming session with 2001-1c02-1105-4500-f1d0-0002-0280-5556.cable.dynamic.v6.ziggo.nl [2001:1c02:1105:4500:f1d0:2:280:5556]
    - 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] SYS Nieuw Schnoord IPv6 test node
    - 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] ZYZ Michiel van der Vlist
    - 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] LOC Driebergen, NL
    - 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] NDL CM,MO,IBN:f5556.vlist.eu,PING,IPv6,INO4
    - 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] TIME Wed, 26 Apr 2023 12:58:38 +0200
    - 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] VER binkd/1.1a-113/Win32 binkp/1.1
    + 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] addr: 2:280/5555.6@fidonet
    + 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] addr: 2:280/5556@fidonet
    - 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ BZ2
    + 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] Remote supports asymmetric ND mode
    + 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    + 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] Remote requests CRYPT mode
    + 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] Remote supports GZ mode
    + 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] Remote supports BZ2 mode
    + 26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] done (from 2:280/5555.6@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    26 Apr 13:58:32 [1355626] session closed, quitting...

    'Tommi

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
    * Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6)
  • From Eugene Subbotin@2:5075/128 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Jun 10 06:39:16 2023
    06.06.2023 21:19, Michiel van der Vlist ¯¨è¥â:
    MV> List of IPv6 nodes
    MV> By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Missing:

    2:5057/19 = 2a03:1ac0:5571:3a38:f1d0:2:5057:19 (Native, ER-Telecom)
    2:5075/0 and 2:5075/35 = 2a03:80c0:1:f:f1d0:2:5075:35 (Native, RUWEB)
    2:5075/37 = 2a03:c980:db:19:: (Native, IHC)
    2:5075/128 = 2a03:e2c0:12a2:0:f1d0:2:5075:128 (T-6in4, IP4Market AKA TUNNELBROKER-0)


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    * Origin: Usenet Network (2:5075/128)
  • From Eugene Subbotin@2:5075/128 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Jun 10 06:43:52 2023
    06.06.2023 21:19, Michiel van der Vlist ¯¨è¥â:
    MV> 93 2:5020/5858
    ; Alexander Kruglikov T-6in4 Tunnel-Brkr-Net1 f

    Also IP4Market, as "TUNNELBROKER-0" in your list


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  • From Eugene Subbotin@2:5075/128 to evs on Sat Jun 10 06:53:57 2023
    10.06.2023 06:39, evs ¯¨è¥â:

    2:5057/19 = 2a03:1ac0:5571:3a38:f1d0:2:5057:19 (Native, ER-Telecom)
    AKA 2:5057/0



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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Jul 11 10:19:42 2023
    On 10 Jul 2023 at 01:56p, Michiel van der Vlist pondered and said...

    Hello All,

    Paul Hayton now has native IPv6

    really happy I finally got this access, changed ISP and things are looking up :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Aug 2 17:28:34 2023
    Hello Tommi!

    26 Apr 2023 17:15, Tommi Koivula wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    Hi Michiel.

    I have checked all the remaining nodes in the list for connectivity
    and as a result more nodes have been flagged 6DWN or even DOWN...
    What happened to 2:221/10 ?

    why do you ask ?


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/6.4.7-gentoo-dist (x86_64))
    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Benny Pedersen on Thu Aug 3 11:51:50 2023
    Good ${greeting_time}, Benny!

    02 Aug 2023 17:28:34, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    I have checked all the remaining nodes in the list for connectivity
    and as a result more nodes have been flagged 6DWN or even DOWN...
    What happened to 2:221/10 ?
    why do you ask ?

    Why do you answer with a question?


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
    gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

    ... that's why I really dislike fools.
    --- /bin/vi
    * Origin: ::1 (2:5020/545)
  • From Egor Glukhov@2:5020/736 to Alexey Vissarionov on Sun Aug 6 00:31:28 2023
    Alexey,

    03 Aug 23 11:51, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    I have checked all the remaining nodes in the list for connectivity
    and as a result more nodes have been flagged 6DWN or even DOWN...
    What happened to 2:221/10 ?
    why do you ask ?
    Why do you answer with a question?

    Why are you interested in this?

    Egor
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
    * Origin: Lyubertsy, MO (2:5020/736)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Alexey Vissarionov on Thu Feb 8 04:08:38 2024
    Hello Alexey!

    03 Aug 2023 11:51, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Good ${greeting_time}, Benny!

    02 Aug 2023 17:28:34, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    I have checked all the remaining nodes in the list for connectivity
    and as a result more nodes have been flagged 6DWN or even DOWN...
    What happened to 2:221/10 ?
    why do you ask ?
    Why do you answer with a question?

    he, if Tommi can't check logs on his own network, its brokken

    MV did not say what connection fails, both are dual stacked, oh well :)


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/6.7.4-gentoo-dist (x86_64))
    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Benny Pedersen on Thu Feb 8 09:39:02 2024
    Benny Pedersen wrote:

    03 Aug 2023 11:51, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Good ${greeting_time}, Benny!

    02 Aug 2023 17:28:34, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    I have checked all the remaining nodes in the list for
    connectivity and as a result more nodes have been flagged
    6DWN or even DOWN...
    What happened to 2:221/10 ?
    why do you ask ?
    Why do you answer with a question?

    he, if Tommi can't check logs on his own network, its brokken

    I have no logs of the "List of IPv6 nodes". ;-D

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: jamnntpd/lnx (2:221/1.0)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Tommi Koivula on Fri Feb 9 22:44:52 2024
    Hello Tommi!

    08 Feb 2024 09:39, Tommi Koivula wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    I have no logs of the "List of IPv6 nodes". ;-D

    grep xxxx:: binkd.log

    why is it needed to use external lists ?


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/6.7.4-gentoo-dist (x86_64))
    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6.600 to Benny Pedersen on Sat Feb 10 09:56:46 2024
    On 10.02.2024 0:44, Benny Pedersen wrote:

    08 Feb 2024 09:39, Tommi Koivula wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    TK> I have no logs of the "List of IPv6 nodes". ;-D

    grep xxxx:: binkd.log

    Read back the old thread you were replying. The question was about "List of IPv6 nodes". It had absolutely nothing to do with binkd or connectivity.

    why is it needed to use external lists ?

    You tell me.

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: == jamnntpd://news.fidonet.fi == (2:221/6.600)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/464.5555 to All on Sat Apr 6 17:40:34 2024
    Hello All,

    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 6 Apr 2024


    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Freedom f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo/Caiway f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Elisa f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OVH
    8 1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Native Spectrum f
    9 2:203/0 Bjorn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    10 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f INO4
    11 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    12 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov T-6in4 he.net f
    13 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    14 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 IP4Market
    15 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native CZ-IJC-20071015
    16 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    17 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    18 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    19 3:770/1 Paul Hayton Native VETTA
    20 3:770/100 Paul Hayton Native VETTA
    21 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native JSC IOT f
    22 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    23 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    24 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    25 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    26 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    27 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    28 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    29 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    30 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native OVH
    31 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    32 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    33 2:240/5413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    34 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    35 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    36 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FirstByte
    37 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    38 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    39 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 IP4Market f
    40 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native KPN
    41 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    42 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    43 2:5101/1 Andrey Ignatov Native HETZNER
    44 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net f
    45 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    46 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko Native ER-Telecom f
    47 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native SAGE-SU-V6
    48 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus
    49 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    50 2:5053/400 Alexander Kruglikov Native FirstVDS f
    51 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    52 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    53 2:240/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    54 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    55 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    56 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native OVH
    57 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US f
    58 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    59 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers f
    60 2:280/2030 Martien Korenblom Native Transip
    61 3:633/509 Deon George Native Telstra
    62 2:5020/4441 Yuri Myakotin Native SOVINTEL
    63 1:320/319 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    64 2:240/5824 Anna Christina Nass Native DTAG f
    65 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    66 2:5030/3165 Serg Podtynnyi Native DIGITALOCEAN
    67 2:301/812 Benoit Panizon Native WOODYV6
    68 1:229/616 Vasily Losev Native GIGEPORT
    69 2:301/113 Alisha Stutz T-6in4 he.ne
    70 1:153/7715 Dallas Hinton Native Shaw Comms
    71 1:218/840 Morgan Collins Native Linode
    72 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native HURRICANE-IPV6-24
    73 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Vodafone
    74 2:280/2040 Leo Barnhoorn Native KPN f
    75 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    76 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f INO4
    77 1:218/850 John Nicpon Native LINODE-US
    78 2:301/1 Alisha Stutz Native CH-DATAWIRE
    79 1:134/0 Kostie Muirhead Native LINODE-US f INO4
    80 1:134/100 Kostie Muirhead Native LINODE-US f INO4
    81 2:5035/63 Vladimir Goncharov Native RFEIV6NET
    82 2:5020/290 Andrew Kolchoogin T-6in4 he.net
    83 1:214/22 Ray Quinn T-6in4 he.net
    84 2:5030/49 Sergey Myasoedov Native FR-VIRTUA-SYSTEMS
    85 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DIGITALOCEAN
    86 1:103/705 Rob Swindell Native Spectrum f
    87 2:5020/5858 Alexander Kruglikov T-6in4 IP4Market f
    88 1:135/395 Charles Blackburn Native Charter Comms
    89 1:134/303 Travis Mehrer Native Shaw Comms
    90 2:5057/19 Max Vasilyev Native ER-Telecom f
    91 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin Native RUWEB f
    92 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC
    93 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 IP4Market f
    94 2:550/278 Vladislav Muschinskikh Native FirstByte
    95 2:5010/278 Vladislav Muschinskikh T-6in4 he.net f
    96 2:240/5411 Stephan Gebbers Native DTAG
    97 2:5020/715 Alex Barinov T-6in4 he.net
    98 1:16/201 Sergey Myasoedov Native Amazon
    99 1:104/117 Vitaliy Aksyonov Native LLC
    100 1:218/880 Lloyd Fellon Native Charter Comms
    101 2:5030/1340 Dmitry Afanasiev T-6in4 TUNNEL-BROKER-NET
    102 2:221/360 Tommi Koivula Native Elisa f
    103 2:5031/25 Alex Kazankov Native VDSINA
    104 4:902/26 Fernando Toledo Native Claro
    105 3:633/257 Andrew Clarke Native widebandnetv6 OO
    106 2:280/2050 Floris van Unen Native Azure


    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    HOLD The node is temporarely off-line. Mail may be routed.
    DOWN This node is Down for both IPv4 and IPv6 and will be
    removed from this list if the condition pertains.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.


    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.



    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20130111
    * Origin: Michiel's laptop (2:280/464.5555)