Hello All,

We have three new ones:

75 2:421/21 Stepan Gabriel Native NETDATACOMM
76 2:466/4 Igor Goroun Native HOS-GUN
77 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net

Stepan, Igo, Alexey, welcome to the Fidonet IPv6 club!


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello All,

New ones:

79 1:220/70 Joseph Werle T-6in4 he.net
80 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET

Joseph and Eugene, welcome to the Fidonet IPv6 club!


Cheers, Michiel

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Michiel;

Is there a full listing somewhere?

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As am I twice over.

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Hello Michiel;

Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

It is published weekly in Fidonews.
See also next message.

Yes I saw it.

You have two T-shirts?

No they seemed to have stopped the T-shirt mailing. My system should be
dual stacked... I know my main stuff on the box is:
n1uro@n1uro:~$ host bbs.n1uro.com
bbs.n1uro.com has address 44.88.0.9
bbs.n1uro.com has IPv6 address 2001:470:8a1e::3
bbs.n1uro.com mail is handled by 5 mail.n1uro.com.

My IPv6 takes priority. My block is mainly used for IPv6 under ax.25 but I
also use it for my postfix, apache, and other servers. My packet node is IPv6 ready as well, and I believe my bink should be. If not I'll have to
investigate why.

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Re: New ones
By: Michiel van der Vlist to All on Fri May 14 2021 05:03 pm

Yay v6 club!
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On 05-14-21 16:56, Brian Rogers wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

My IPv6 takes priority. My block is mainly used for IPv6 under ax.25
but I also use it for my postfix, apache, and other servers. My packet node is IPv6 ready as well, and I believe my bink should be. If not
I'll have to investigate why.

As you feed off me on VKRadio, you should be connecting to me by default over IPv6, unless you override that.


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Hello Michiel;

Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

http://www.vlist.eu/fotos/sage-f.jpg
http://www.vlist.eu/fotos/sage-b.jpg

Nice! One of the blocks I got was for a client of mine. I was also pleased
to learn that one of the guys in their tech support is also a ham. He was surprised to learn how I got IPv6 routed over the ax.25 protocol.

No need to investigate, it works fine:

+ 10:03 [2736] call to 1:142/103@fidonet
10:03 [2736] trying bbs.n1uro.com [2001:470:8a1e::3]...
10:03 [2736] connected
+ 10:03 [2736] outgoing session with bbs.n1uro.com:24554 [2001:470:8a1e::3] - 10:03 [2736] OPT

Good, thanks for the report! Basically SBBS and it's built in Bink saw the active IPv6 and ported it right in automatically.

+ 10:03 [2736] addr: 432:1/157@vkradio (n/a or busy)

Ahh now I have to figure out why this is!

Cheers and thanks again for the verification.

-Brian

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Hello Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

As you feed off me on VKRadio, you should be connecting to me by
default over IPv6, unless you override that.

If there's an IPv6 path available, it takes priority... but it appears
we've been having handshaking issues (password). Chalk it up to social distancing? <G>

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Hello Michiel;

Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

HAMs are everywhere! ;-)

Yes we are!

Once, a long time ago I pioneered in data over HAM radio. That was
before IPv6, even before AX25. I still kept the call, but I am no
longer active as a HAM.

I'm a coordinator for 44-net. I handle 1/5th of the USA. They're now just beginning to talk about incorporating IPv6 into amprnet however in my case
it's unneeded. I have a /48 from he.net and broker IPs to various points whether they be ipencap tunnel on 44net OR encapsulated under ax.25! The
trick was simple too. To route IP on ax.25 it demands ARP so it can use
the callsign as a mac address and we all know IPv6 uses NDS not ARP... so depending on the remote source I do a 6-to-4 mapping to their 44-net IP
or to their commercial IP. For radio, the mapping goes to their 44-net IP
since that's the only IP they have. Speed wise, it's not much different
than IPv4... and it's slick because using 44-net that's your ARP mapping.

No need for action. That is the standard response when Binkd sees an
AKA in an unknown domain. My binkd does not know about the domain vkradio.

Interesting. It does however appear that it's not loading the nodelist.
I've reconfigured it so it knows it's there.

73 de PA0MMV

Dust off that TNC OM :)
73 de N1URO

-Brian

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On 05-16-21 07:51, Brian Rogers wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Hello Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

As you feed off me on VKRadio, you should be connecting to me by
default over IPv6, unless you override that.

If there's an IPv6 path available, it takes priority... but it appears we've been having handshaking issues (password). Chalk it up to social distancing? <G>

Yeah I'm native IPv6 on my end. :) Yeah, have to compare passwords - show me yours and I'll show you mine (in email, not here)... :D


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On 05-16-21 07:50, Brian Rogers wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

Good, thanks for the report! Basically SBBS and it's built in Bink saw
the active IPv6 and ported it right in automatically.

+ 10:03 [2736] addr: 432:1/157@vkradio (n/a or busy)

Ahh now I have to figure out why this is!

That simply means that the other end doesn't have an AKA in the same network, which makes sense, since I don't recall adding Michiel to my net. :)


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On 05-16-21 15:09, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

He was surprised to learn how I got IPv6 routed over the ax.25
protocol.

Hmm, I'm wondering how Brian did that too, given that AX.25 doesn't support IPv6 out of the box (frame size too small for starters, meaning a packet won't fit).

No need for action. That is the standard response when Binkd sees an
AKA in an unknown domain. My binkd does not know about the domain vkradio.

I just replied to Brian saying the same thing. :)


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On 05-16-21 10:05, Brian Rogers wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

I'm a coordinator for 44-net. I handle 1/5th of the USA. They're now
just beginning to talk about incorporating IPv6 into amprnet however in
my case it's unneeded. I have a /48 from he.net and broker IPs to
various points whether they be ipencap tunnel on 44net OR encapsulated under ax.25! The trick was simple too. To route IP on ax.25 it demands
ARP so it can use the callsign as a mac address and we all know IPv6
uses NDS not ARP... so depending on the remote source I do a 6-to-4 mapping to their 44-net IP or to their commercial IP. For radio, the mapping goes to their 44-net IP since that's the only IP they have.
Speed wise, it's not much different than IPv4... and it's slick because using 44-net that's your ARP mapping.

Interesting, would like to know the details. I'm fully IPv6 capable, and would like to be able to transmit it over AX.25 one day.


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Hello Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Yeah I'm native IPv6 on my end. :) Yeah, have to compare passwords -
show me yours and I'll show you mine (in email, not here)... :D

I have an HE.net 6-to-4 tunnel/map however it still take priority in my
routing - as it should. I'll try to send you an ascii in email of what
I have. I really have a feeling that the nodelist isn't loading... but that's just my hunch.

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Hey Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

On 05-16-21 10:05, Brian Rogers wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

I'm a coordinator for 44-net. I handle 1/5th of the USA. They're now
just beginning to talk about incorporating IPv6 into amprnet however in
my case it's unneeded. I have a /48 from he.net and broker IPs to
various points whether they be ipencap tunnel on 44net OR encapsulated under ax.25! The trick was simple too. To route IP on ax.25 it demands
ARP so it can use the callsign as a mac address and we all know IPv6
uses NDS not ARP... so depending on the remote source I do a 6-to-4 mapping to their 44-net IP or to their commercial IP. For radio, the mapping goes to their 44-net IP since that's the only IP they have.
Speed wise, it's not much different than IPv4... and it's slick because using 44-net that's your ARP mapping.

Interesting, would like to know the details. I'm fully IPv6 capable,
and would like to be able to transmit it over AX.25 one day.

Details are above.

If you want a Proof of Concept, traceroute6 wb2snn.ampr.org
That's an RF Only site with -no- internet whatsoever. You should get to gw-ipv6.n1uro.com then to wb2snn:

n1uro@n1uro:~$ traceroute6 wb2snn.ampr.org
traceroute to wb2snn.ampr.org (2001:470:8a1e::17), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
1 gw-ipv6.n1uro.com (2001:470:8a1e::1) 1.432 ms 1.893 ms 2.747 ms
2 wb2snn.ampr.org (2001:470:8a1e::17) 3753.106 ms 3758.076 ms 3758.812 ms n1uro@n1uro:~$

And...

n1uro@n1uro:~$ telnet6 wb2snn.ampr.org node
Trying 2001:470:8a1e::17...
Connected to wb2snn.ampr.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
(wb2snn.ampr.org:uronode) login:

Not only is ipv6 working, but my URONode is IPv6 compatable.

73

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On 05-17-21 07:58, Brian Rogers wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Yeah I'm native IPv6 on my end. :) Yeah, have to compare passwords -
show me yours and I'll show you mine (in email, not here)... :D

I have an HE.net 6-to-4 tunnel/map however it still take priority in my routing - as it should. I'll try to send you an ascii in email of what
I have. I really have a feeling that the nodelist isn't loading... but that's just my hunch.

What you sent looked good. And if you need a file copy of the nodelist (as opposed to DNS), you can download that from my file areas (again, anonymous HTTP/FTP work fine). :)

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Haha. :D


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On 05-17-21 08:02, Brian Rogers wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Interesting, would like to know the details. I'm fully IPv6 capable,
and would like to be able to transmit it over AX.25 one day.

Details are above.

The detailed details - I have a vague idea, but lacks enough for me to fully grasp it. :)

If you want a Proof of Concept, traceroute6 wb2snn.ampr.org
That's an RF Only site with -no- internet whatsoever. You should get to gw-ipv6.n1uro.com then to wb2snn:

Little bit hard right now, while I'm offline on a plane going up the east coast of Australia. ;)

n1uro@n1uro:~$ traceroute6 wb2snn.ampr.org
traceroute to wb2snn.ampr.org (2001:470:8a1e::17), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
1 gw-ipv6.n1uro.com (2001:470:8a1e::1) 1.432 ms 1.893 ms 2.747 ms
2 wb2snn.ampr.org (2001:470:8a1e::17) 3753.106 ms 3758.076 ms
3758.812 ms n1uro@n1uro:~$

Nice. :)

And...

n1uro@n1uro:~$ telnet6 wb2snn.ampr.org node
Trying 2001:470:8a1e::17...
Connected to wb2snn.ampr.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
(wb2snn.ampr.org:uronode) login:

Not only is ipv6 working, but my URONode is IPv6 compatable.

Another reason I should check out UORNode. I'm in need of a new RF node/gateway, after I get back home. And since you support IPv6, you've gone to the front of the queue. :)

73

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I've been accused of it. :D


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Hey Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Yeah I'm native IPv6 on my end. :) Yeah, have to compare passwords -
show me yours and I'll show you mine (in email, not here)... :D

Ha! If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, I'd still be waiting
to get a nickel <G>

What you sent looked good. And if you need a file copy of the nodelist (as opposed to DNS), you can download that from my file areas (again, anonymous HTTP/FTP work fine). :)

I have one, I'm surprised it didn't load up for me.

... To my embarrassment, I was born in bed with a lady!

We used to have a chain store called Two Guys years ago. In today's world
you'd think that's where some of the more vocal ones came from :)




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Hello Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

The detailed details - I have a vague idea, but lacks enough for me to fully grasp it. :)

When the time comes I can help ya get things going.

Little bit hard right now, while I'm offline on a plane going up the
east coast of Australia. ;)

Plane? What happened to the ol' feet? :) .. or do you have shoes like
Apollo - with wings on them <G>

Another reason I should check out UORNode. I'm in need of a new RF node/gateway, after I get back home. And since you support IPv6,
you've gone to the front of the queue. :)

My axMail-FAX system, which uses Postfix as a backend MTA, also is IPv6 ready... since Postfix handles the mail in reality.

... "Data, people do not _have_ internal chronometers." - Riker

I've been accused of it. :D

Just don't play footsies with you, you've known to "nail" that one down? :D

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On 05-19-21 16:32, Brian Rogers wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Yeah I'm native IPv6 on my end. :) Yeah, have to compare passwords -
show me yours and I'll show you mine (in email, not here)... :D

Ha! If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, I'd still be waiting
to get a nickel <G>

Hahaha :D

What you sent looked good. And if you need a file copy of the nodelist (as opposed to DNS), you can download that from my file areas (again, anonymous HTTP/FTP work fine). :)

I have one, I'm surprised it didn't load up for me.

Hmm, strange. It's built from raw data with MakeNL.

... To my embarrassment, I was born in bed with a lady!

We used to have a chain store called Two Guys years ago. In today's
world you'd think that's where some of the more vocal ones came from :)

Haha hmm. ;)



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On 05-19-21 16:37, Brian Rogers wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

The detailed details - I have a vague idea, but lacks enough for me to fully grasp it. :)

When the time comes I can help ya get things going.

Cool, I'll take you up on that one day. :)

Little bit hard right now, while I'm offline on a plane going up the
east coast of Australia. ;)

Plane? What happened to the ol' feet? :) .. or do you have shoes like Apollo - with wings on them <G>

Haha, it was a 1500+ km trip, this is a BIG country. Wasn't even an interstate flight! ;)

Another reason I should check out UORNode. I'm in need of a new RF node/gateway, after I get back home. And since you support IPv6,
you've gone to the front of the queue. :)

My axMail-FAX system, which uses Postfix as a backend MTA, also is IPv6 ready... since Postfix handles the mail in reality.

Yeah that makes sense. :)

... "Data, people do not _have_ internal chronometers." - Riker

I've been accused of it. :D

Just don't play footsies with you, you've known to "nail" that one
down? :D

Haha the mind boggles. ;)


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Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

I have it loaded up now. I just had to manually enter it in the .ini
file.

Ahh OK, cool. :)

I'm making the connect attempt, and via IPV6 no less. I'm receiving your alias nodes though from what I see.

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Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Mor a case of getting used to the lay of the land. :)

You do it once, it becomes old hat from then on :)

Hmm, kind of an oxymoron. :P

OR... you can have very VERY large feet <G>

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On 05-20-21 06:51, Brian Rogers wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

I'm making the connect attempt, and via IPV6 no less. I'm receiving
your alias nodes though from what I see.

Cool. I may set you to IPv6+IPv4. My IPv6 connectivity is actually better on the hub (native vs OpenVPN). How does that sound?

... I'll torture you SO slowly, you'll think it's a career

Haha catch me. :P


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On 05-20-21 06:53, Brian Rogers wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Mor a case of getting used to the lay of the land. :)

You do it once, it becomes old hat from then on :)

Yeah, that's what I figured. :)

Hmm, kind of an oxymoron. :P

OR... you can have very VERY large feet <G>

Haha :D

... The best way to stop smoking is to carry wet matches.

That works. ;)

So does someone aiming a firehose at you. ;)


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Hey Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Cool. I may set you to IPv6+IPv4. My IPv6 connectivity is actually better on the hub (native vs OpenVPN). How does that sound?

That's perfect!.. it's like putting a humidifier and a dehumidifier in the
same room and letting them hash it out <G>

Haha catch me. :P

With my neuropathy are you kidding me?? :)

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On 05-20-21 23:26, Brian Rogers wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Hey Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Cool. I may set you to IPv6+IPv4. My IPv6 connectivity is actually better on the hub (native vs OpenVPN). How does that sound?

That's perfect!.. it's like putting a humidifier and a dehumidifier in
the same room and letting them hash it out <G>

Hahaha. :)

Haha catch me. :P

With my neuropathy are you kidding me?? :)

LOL, I had a track meet today (the reason I'm in Cairns, actually). :) Backing that up tomorrow with a 5k road race, for a change of pace, literally! :)


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Hello Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Seems the IPv6 path is working fine.

LOL, I had a track meet today (the reason I'm in Cairns, actually). :) Backing that up tomorrow with a 5k road race, for a change of pace, literally! :)

I'm lucky just to keep up with the daily rat race - and I've been on the
losing end of that lately too.

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On 05-22-21 20:33, Brian Rogers wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Hello Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Seems the IPv6 path is working fine.

Cool, well it's more direct on my end. I'm unusual in that I run native IPv6 on the BBS and tunnel IPv4. :)

LOL, I had a track meet today (the reason I'm in Cairns, actually). :) Backing that up tomorrow with a 5k road race, for a change of pace, literally! :)

I'm lucky just to keep up with the daily rat race - and I've been on
the losing end of that lately too.

Oh dear. :/

I ended up winning the 5k in my age group, FYI. :)


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Hello Tony;

Tony Langdon wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Cool, well it's more direct on my end. I'm unusual in that I run
native IPv6 on the BBS and tunnel IPv4. :)

I *could* do that but my ISP filters too many ports. Pretty much useless.
It reminds me of when AOL first claimed to pass IPs to their users. I asked them what hostname do I use for port 25 and 110. They said you can't it's blocked. So I said "why should I stay if I can't use standard IP software?"
the silence was deafening!

LOL, I had a track meet today (the reason I'm in Cairns, actually). :) Backing that up tomorrow with a 5k road race, for a change of pace, literally! :)

When tracks meet... what do they say to each other? <G>

I ended up winning the 5k in my age group, FYI. :)

Congrats! That extra spoonful of geritol helped I see :D

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