MvdV> Some ISPs in Europe have started issuing a DS-Lite connection to new
MvdV> customers. That means they have no public IPv4 address.

And that's what you thought I should be considering when you suspected I was offered just that within a private 100.64.0.0/10 network? As opposed to my, longer than you, tunnels from first SixXS and then he.net.

Sometimes I really do not understand you, Michiel. :(


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Hello Bj”rn,

On Tuesday March 26 2019 14:01, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Some ISPs in Europe have started issuing a DS-Lite connection
MvdV>> to new customers. That means they have no public IPv4 address.

And that's what you thought I should be considering when you
suspected I was offered just that within a private 100.64.0.0/10
network?

I did indeed suspect that was what was offered to you. No, it is not what I thought you /should/ be considering. But with your scientific background, I would have expected you to take a quick look under the hood now that the vehicle was accidentally parked on your driveway. Just out of curiosity. I certainly would have. Independant of whether I wanted it for myself or not.

As opposed to my, longer than you, tunnels from first SixXS and then he.net.

Why the pissing contest? I do not know if your SixXs tunnel predated mine or not. I did not keep the records after they closed shop. It may or it may not. What I do know is that my Fidonet IPv6 connectivity predates yours. I am #4 on the list, you are #12. Plus that I have the he.net sage T-shirt...

Sometimes I really do not understand you, Michiel. :(

That goes both ways. I suspect that is at least partly due to both of us having to make do with a language that is not our native language.

Cheers, Michiel

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MvdV> I do not know if your SixXs tunnel predated mine or not.

You should. We even made jokes about it in this very echo. Alas, never mind.

I still don't understand why you think I should contemplate, no less investigate, a connection that would deprive me of all IPv4 connectivity.

Well, EOD.


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Plus that I have the he.net sage T-shirt..

However, you may not be licensed to wear it, you are not using he.net
tunnel anymore.. :-D

'Tommi, he.net certified sage

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Hello Tommi,

On Tuesday March 26 2019 17:08, you wrote to me:

Plus that I have the he.net sage T-shirt..

However, you may not be licensed to wear it, you are not using he.net tunnel anymore.. :-D

The license expires when the tunnel is no longer used? Hmm...

Indeed, I do not use it any more. I have native IPv6 since medio 2016 and I can report that although he.net provides an excellent service, native IPv6 is better than a tunnel. I am one of the lucky ones. :)

'Tommi, he.net certified sage

If you show me yours, I will show you mine. ;-)


Cheers, Michiel

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'Tommi, he.net certified sage

If you show me yours, I will show you mine. ;-)

https://www.fidonet.fi/sage.pdf

;-)

'Tommi

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On 03-26-19 17:08, Tommi Koivula wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

Plus that I have the he.net sage T-shirt..

However, you may not be licensed to wear it, you are not using he.net tunnel anymore.. :-D

I got mine long after I closed my last he.net tunnel, having been native for many years. :)


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On 03-26-19 16:13, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tommi Koivula <=-

The license expires when the tunnel is no longer used? Hmm...

I don't recall a question about whether one uses a he.net tunnel. ;)

Indeed, I do not use it any more. I have native IPv6 since medio 2016
and I can report that although he.net provides an excellent service, native IPv6 is better than a tunnel. I am one of the lucky ones. :)

I went native in 2011, and my VPS went native within a couple of years after that.

'Tommi, he.net certified sage

If you show me yours, I will show you mine. ;-)

I've got one to show too. ;)

Took me longer to get my shirt, had to wait for someone external to me to fix up their NS glue records, before I could claim mine. :)


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Hello Tommi,

On Tuesday March 26 2019 18:55, you wrote to me:

'Tommi, he.net certified sage

If you show me yours, I will show you mine. ;-)

https://www.fidonet.fi/sage.pdf

Ah, I did not mean the certificate. I should have that around somewhere as well.

http://ipv6.he.net/certification/create_badge.php?pass_name=Roetzen&badge=1

I meant the T-shirt.

http://www.vlist.eu/fotos/sage-f.jpg
http://www.vlist.eu/fotos/sage-b.jpg


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Tony,

On Wednesday March 27 2019 09:19, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Plus that I have the he.net sage T-shirt..

However, you may not be licensed to wear it, you are not using
he.net tunnel anymore.. :-D

I got mine long after I closed my last he.net tunnel, having been
native for many years. :)

You lucky one. ;-)


Cheers, Michiel

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;  TK> 'Tommi, he.net certified sage
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If you show me yours, I will show you mine. ;-)

 TK> https://www.fidonet.fi/sage.pdf

Ah, I did not mean the certificate. I should have that around
somewhere as well.

Oh...

I meant the T-shirt.

Why didn't you say so. :) Well, you have seen it, I wrote about
receiving my t-shirt 30.01.2015.

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi,

On Wednesday March 27 2019 17:00, you wrote to me:

I meant the T-shirt.

Why didn't you say so. :) Well, you have seen it, I wrote about
receiving my t-shirt 30.01.2015.

Four years ago. I forgot. And the url has expired:

Sorry, we could not find the dy.fi tiny URL you have requested. Please check the spelling of the URL.


Cheers, Michiel

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Sorry, we could not find the dy.fi tiny URL you have requested. Please
check the spelling of the URL.

"Short URLs are released for re-use after they have not been used for 6
months. When a new long URL is inserted, it always gets the shortest
available short URL."

'Tommi

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On 03-27-19 11:54, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

I got mine long after I closed my last he.net tunnel, having been
native for many years. :)

You lucky one. ;-)

Yeah, went native and never looked back. :)


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