• Question

    From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to All on Fri Sep 4 01:25:02 2020
    I wonder if someone could give me a simple statement as to what the
    discussion in this echo is about? I have sampled a few messages, but am
    still at a complete loss.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


    ... Shipwrecked in Silver Spring, Maryland. 01:27:13, 04 Sep 2020
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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Dale Shipp on Fri Sep 4 08:30:00 2020
    Hello Dale!

    ** On Friday 04.09.20 - 01:25, Dale Shipp wrote to All:

    I wonder if someone could give me a simple statement as to
    what the discussion in this echo is about? I have sampled
    a few messages, but am still at a complete loss.

    It's in the ELIST. Duplicated for your convenience:

    --------------------------------------------------------------
    From: Vincent Coen @ 2:250/1 (Air Applewood, Hatfield Hertfordshire)
    Subject: FUTURE4FIDO Echolist Update
    Date: Sa 21.03.20, 21:23 (received: 21.03.20, 19:37)
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Echo successfully Added.

    TAGname: FUTURE4FIDO Group: FIDO

    TITLe: Discussion of new and future Fidonet technologies.

    DESCription:
    A place for anyone interested in talking about existing fidonet
    programs, improvements to all things fidonet-related but limited to
    technology-talk. Discuss your "wishlist" for fidonet technologies.
    Announce new and upcoming fidonet projects.
    Enthusiasm is welcome. Visionaries are invited. Brainstorming is
    encouraged. Apathy is discouraged. Users and/or Sysops welcome.

    Be civil.

    MODerator: August Abolins, 2:221/1.58

    DISTribution: {None on Record}

    From: August Abolins, 2:221/1.58

    Updated on: 2020/03/21 and valid till 2020/09/30

    -=:{ End of Report }:=-
    --------------------------------------------------------------


    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to August Abolins on Sat Sep 5 02:26:00 2020
    On 09-04-20 08:30, August Abolins <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Question <=-

    ** On Friday 04.09.20 - 01:25, Dale Shipp wrote to All:

    I wonder if someone could give me a simple statement as to
    what the discussion in this echo is about? I have sampled
    a few messages, but am still at a complete loss.

    It's in the ELIST. Duplicated for your convenience:

    Your response does nothing to answer the question. The Elist is a
    generic thing. I see much discussion here that seems to be quite
    specific, mentioning terms like telegraph, gates, etc. I was wondering
    what the discussion was about.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


    ... Shipwrecked in Silver Spring, Maryland. 02:28:38, 05 Sep 2020
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Dale Shipp on Sat Sep 5 11:25:12 2020
    Hi, Dale!

    05 сен 20 02:26, Dale Shipp -> August Abolins:

    Your response does nothing to answer the question. The Elist is a
    generic thing. I see much discussion here that seems to be quite specific, mentioning terms like telegraph, gates, etc. I was wondering what the discussion was about.

    Are you interested in what the echo conference is all about or specifically in the discussion of the Telegram Gate? So what exactly can I explain to you about the discussion of the Telegram gate?

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Первым признаком глупости является полное отсутствие стыда. З.Фрейд.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Dale Shipp on Sat Sep 5 17:22:37 2020
    On 04/09/2020 7:26 p.m., Dale Shipp : August Abolins wrote:

    Your response does nothing to answer the question...

    Apologies.

    I did not understand that your question was specific to a specific current thread.

    The current thread (following subsequent Subject changes) all started with this one:

    MSGID: 2:335/370 5f21ed49
    Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 23:32:06 +0200
    Subject: FTN to Telegram


    HTH.


    --

    --- TB(Stealth)/Win7
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun Sep 6 01:32:04 2020
    On 09-05-20 11:25, Stas Mishchenkov <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Question <=-

    Your response does nothing to answer the question. The Elist is a
    generic thing. I see much discussion here that seems to be quite specific, mentioning terms like telegraph, gates, etc. I was wondering what the discussion was about.

    Are you interested in what the echo conference is all about
    or specifically in the discussion of the Telegram Gate? So
    what exactly can I explain to you about the discussion of
    the Telegram gate?

    As I said, I would like to know what the current discussion is about --
    in a very generic over view sort of way. E.g. what is a telegram gate?
    How does this fit into Fidonet?

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)



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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to August Abolins on Sun Sep 6 02:13:06 2020
    On 09-05-20 17:22, August Abolins <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Question <=-

    Your response does nothing to answer the question...

    Apologies.

    OK -- now we are making progress.

    I did not understand that your question was specific to a
    specific current thread.

    The current thread (following subsequent Subject changes)
    all started with this one:

    MSGID: 2:335/370 5f21ed49
    Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 23:32:06 +0200
    Subject: FTN to Telegram

    I managed to find that message in my data base, but it did not lead to
    any other understanding. I don't know what Telegram is. I only know
    telegram as an old method of sending short messages, mostly in the 19th
    century and some in the 20th. Although Western Union still exists,
    their telegrams are not used much. Hence, It is certain that the
    Telegram mentioned here is referring to something else entirely.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Dale Shipp on Sun Sep 6 11:16:04 2020
    Hi, Dale!

    06 сен 20 02:13, Dale Shipp -> August Abolins:

    I managed to find that message in my data base, but it did not lead to
    any other understanding. I don't know what Telegram is.

    https://telegram.org/faq
    Q: What is Telegram? What do I do here?
    Telegram is a messaging app with a focus on speed and security, it's super-fast, simple and free. You can use Telegram on all your devices at the same time - your messages sync seamlessly across any number of your phones, tablets or computers.

    With Telegram, you can send messages, photos, videos and files of any type (doc, zip, mp3, etc), as well as create groups for up to 200,000 people or channels for broadcasting to unlimited audiences. You can write to your phone contacts and find people by their usernames. As a result, Telegram is like SMS and email combined - and can take care of all your personal or business messaging needs. In addition to this, we support end-to-end encrypted voice calls.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Хороший собеседник не только внимательно слушает, но и вовремя наливает.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Dale Shipp on Sun Sep 6 11:25:20 2020
    Hi, Dale!

    06 сен 20 01:32, Dale Shipp -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    As I said, I would like to know what the current discussion is about
    --
    in a very generic over view sort of way. E.g. what is a telegram gate? How does this fit into Fidonet?

    It's like BBS, allows you to read and write in Fido Echoconferences, but the Telegram application is used for access.
    It also makes it possible to broadcast Telegram groups or channels in the read-write mode to Fido.
    Also, with some restrictions, the gate allows you to exchange private messages between Telegram users and sysops of the Fido network.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Снесла курочка яичко старику и выразительно посмотрела на модератора.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Dale Shipp on Sun Sep 6 09:13:00 2020
    Hello Dale!

    ** On Sunday 06.09.20 - 02:13, Dale Shipp wrote to August Abolins:

    I managed to find that message in my data base, but it did
    not lead to any other understanding. I don't know what
    Telegram is.

    Ah.. Thanks for clarifying your confusion. I suppose that we
    should have referred to Telegram with its official descriptive
    name somewhere in the beginning as Telegram Messenger.

    This describes it quite nicely:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_(software)

    Stas of 2:460/5858 developed some code that adapts to the
    public API and can gate echos into and out of the Telegram-
    verse.

    The idea is to make echomail accessible on a smartphone. Think
    of it as an alternative to the HotdogEd or Aftershock methods.

    If you would like to give it shot on your smartphone, install
    Telegram and send me a Telegram message to @aabolins. I'll hook
    you up to the namesake FUTURE4FIDO "group" over there.

    HTH.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Stas Mishchenkov on Mon Sep 7 00:35:02 2020
    On 09-06-20 11:16, Stas Mishchenkov <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Question <=-

    I managed to find that message in my data base, but it did not lead to
    any other understanding. I don't know what Telegram is.

    https://telegram.org/faq
    Q: What is Telegram? What do I do here?
    Telegram is a messaging app with a focus on speed and
    security, it's super-fast, simple and free. You can use
    Telegram on all your devices at the same time - your
    messages sync seamlessly across any number of your phones,
    tablets or computers.

    Thanks for the link. It does explain a lot for me. It also let me know
    enough to know that it is not for me. To start with, it sounds like it
    needs a mobile phone which I don't have (yea -- old fogy) and/or SMS
    messaging. I don't quite see how it is relevant to fidonet, but that is
    ok.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)



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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to August Abolins on Mon Sep 7 00:39:04 2020
    On 09-06-20 09:13, August Abolins <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Question: Telegram <=-

    Ah.. Thanks for clarifying your confusion. I suppose that we
    should have referred to Telegram with its official descriptive
    name somewhere in the beginning as Telegram Messenger.

    This describes it quite nicely:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_(software)

    The idea is to make echomail accessible on a smartphone. Think
    of it as an alternative to the HotdogEd or Aftershock methods.

    For some, that could well be desirable -- but I don't have a smart
    phone. Just regular lane-line.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Dale Shipp on Mon Sep 7 17:23:00 2020
    Hello Dale!

    ** On Monday 07.09.20 - 00:35, Dale Shipp wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    https://telegram.org/faq
    Q: What is Telegram? What do I do here?

    Thanks for the link. It does explain a lot for me. It
    also let me know enough to know that it is not for me. To
    start with, it sounds like it needs a mobile phone which I
    don't have (yea -- old fogy) and/or SMS messaging. I
    don't quite see how it is relevant to fidonet, but that is
    ok.

    Yes.. TgM requires a phone number that can receive the initial
    registration passcode as a text to create an account.

    As for relevance to fidonet, the TgM gate that Stas @2:460/5858
    has produced moves messages between the traditional FTN
    environment and TgM. The idea is that a TgM user can have
    quick and simple access to echomail on a smartphone.

    The TgM+gate approach is not much different what Jamnntp does
    to bring echomail to newsreader users.

    But unlike nntp or point-softare, TgM only requires one
    registration to get activated, and then if you have the TgM app
    installed on either a tablet, pc or smartphone, you can switch
    between any of those devices and be totally sync'd on all of
    them at any time.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Tue Sep 8 00:55:26 2020
    Hi, August!

    07 сен 20 17:23, August Abolins -> Dale Shipp:

    The TgM+gate approach is not much different what Jamnntp does
    to bring echomail to newsreader users.

    I think the gate more close to BBS now.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Муж без жены - как дуб без дятла.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:240/1120.976 to August Abolins on Mon Sep 7 17:40:17 2020
    Hello, August Abolins.
    On 9/6/20 9:13 AM you wrote:

    If you would like to give it shot on your smartphone, install
    Telegram and send me a Telegram message to @aabolins. I'll hook
    you up to the namesake FUTURE4FIDO "group" over there.

    Does it currently only work with this echo?

    --
    Best regards!
    Posted using Hotdoged on Android
    --- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
    * Origin: The Oasis, Houston, Texas, USA (2:240/1120.976)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Charles Pierson on Mon Sep 7 19:02:00 2020
    Hello Charles!

    ** On Monday 07.09.20 - 17:40, Charles Pierson wrote to August Abolins:

    If you would like to give it shot on your smartphone,
    install Telegram and send me a Telegram message to
    @aabolins. I'll hook you up to the namesake FUTURE4FIDO
    "group" over there.

    Does it currently only work with this echo?

    Yes. FUTURE4FIDO is the only english-speaking Fidonet echo
    gated on Telegram that I am aware of.

    Hopefully more echo moderators would open up to the idea.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Mon Sep 7 16:15:32 2020
    Yes. FUTURE4FIDO is the only english-speaking Fidonet echo
    gated on Telegram that I am aware of.

    Hopefully more echo moderators would open up to the idea.

    I moderate the following areas. The good folks in charge of TgM are welcome in any of these if they choose.

    COFFEE_KLATSCH
    DOOM
    DOORGAMES
    DOS
    ESSNASA
    FIDO-REQ
    FIDO-UTIL
    MOVIES
    TAGLINES
    TUXPOWER

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:240/1120.976 to August Abolins on Mon Sep 7 18:22:38 2020
    Hello, August Abolins.
    On 9/7/20 7:02 PM you wrote:

    Hello Charles! ** On Monday 07.09.20 - 17:40, Charles Pierson
    wrote to August Abolins:
    If you would like to give it shot on your smartphone, install
    Telegram and send me a Telegram message to @aabolins. I'll hook
    you up to the namesake FUTURE4FIDO "group" over there.
    Does it currently only work with this echo?
    Yes. FUTURE4FIDO is the only english-speaking Fidonet echo
    gated on Telegram that I am aware of. Hopefully more echo
    moderators would open up to the idea.

    That would be nice. It's a great sounding idea. But with only the one echo, it's kind of difficult to see it truly working well.

    --
    Best regards!
    Posted using Hotdoged on Android
    --- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
    * Origin: The Oasis, Houston, Texas, USA (2:240/1120.976)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Alan Ianson on Mon Sep 7 19:26:00 2020
    Hello Alan!

    ** On Monday 07.09.20 - 16:15, Alan Ianson wrote to August Abolins:

    I moderate the following areas. The good folks in charge of TgM are welcome in any of these if they choose.

    COFFEE_KLATSCH
    DOOM
    DOORGAMES
    DOS
    ESSNASA
    FIDO-REQ
    FIDO-UTIL
    MOVIES
    TAGLINES
    TUXPOWER

    That's great. To make Stas' job easier, and to give yourself
    good moderator control of users, create the groups on Telegram
    yourself - I would suggest as PRIVATE groups. Then, give Stas
    the heads up and he would attach his Fido2telebot to them.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Mon Sep 7 16:39:52 2020
    That's great. To make Stas' job easier, and to give yourself
    good moderator control of users, create the groups on Telegram
    yourself - I would suggest as PRIVATE groups.

    If I had to put on my moderator hat I would do that from the fido side. So far I haven't had to do that and I don't see that becoming an issue.

    Then, give Stas the heads up and he would attach his Fido2telebot to them.

    I don't actually run telegram myself, or any messaging app so I don't know these things at all. In this case someone else would need to create the groups or whatever is needed to make this possible. You could do that if you are so inclined for one or all of those areas. :)

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Charles Pierson on Mon Sep 7 20:12:00 2020
    Hello Charles!

    ** On Monday 07.09.20 - 18:22, Charles Pierson wrote to August Abolins:

    ... Hopefully more echo moderators would open up to the
    idea.

    That would be nice. It's a great sounding idea. But with
    only the one echo, it's kind of difficult to see it truly
    working well.

    Of course. The Telegram gate only came to my attention not
    long ago. The whole concept is still quite new to me. This
    echo has been a sort of 1st experiment for the last month or
    so. I'm using TgM with the DT (desktop) version, and the
    results are pretty good.

    The concept is probably ready for prime time; that is, more
    echos! :)

    I don't see every echo suitable for this though. It's really up
    to a moderator to decide.

    I see that you are settled with HotdogEd. Tapping on a virtual
    keyboard in a reply like this one would give me sore finger
    joints. :D But, the whole idea is to a have handy portable
    access to the echos to read. Replying is totally optional.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to August Abolins on Tue Sep 8 14:50:00 2020
    On 09-07-20 20:12, August Abolins wrote to Charles Pierson <=-

    I see that you are settled with HotdogEd. Tapping on a virtual
    keyboard in a reply like this one would give me sore finger
    joints. :D But, the whole idea is to a have handy portable
    access to the echos to read. Replying is totally optional.

    While not perfect, Telegram is the best solution I've seen so far. :)


    ... Shell to DOS, come in DOS, do you copy? Over...
    === MultiMail/Win v0.51
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Alan Ianson on Tue Sep 8 11:17:34 2020
    Hi, Alan!

    07 сен 20 16:15, Alan Ianson -> August Abolins:

    I moderate the following areas. The good folks in charge of TgM are welcome in any of these if they choose.

    DOS
    FIDO-REQ

    These have now started gating like private groups in Telegram. August added to them. All members of the group can add others to the group. I can do it in open groups, but it is fraught with SPAM.
    As I create other echo conferences, I will do the same.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Даже если ты в полной жопе, - еще не значит, что ты в дерьме. Brazzers.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Tue Sep 8 11:26:42 2020
    Hi, August!

    07 сен 20 19:26, August Abolins -> Alan Ianson:

    That's great. To make Stas' job easier, and to give yourself
    good moderator control of users, create the groups on Telegram

    Better myself. :)

    yourself - I would suggest as PRIVATE groups. Then, give Stas
    the heads up and he would attach his Fido2telebot to them.

    It is enough to tell me the username in Telegram so that I can make it an administrator.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Старость - это когда видишь сиськи и вспоминаешь, что забыл молока купить
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Charles Pierson on Tue Sep 8 12:27:58 2020
    Hi, Charles!

    07 сен 20 18:22, Charles Pierson -> August Abolins:

    That would be nice. It's a great sounding idea. But with only the one echo, it's kind of difficult to see it truly working well.

    I think it is worth creating an open GATE2FIDO group and to link it to the echo conference of the same name.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Муж без жены - как дуб без дятла.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:240/1120.976 to August Abolins on Tue Sep 8 05:49:59 2020
    Hello, August Abolins.
    On 9/7/20 8:12 PM you wrote:

    Of course. The Telegram gate only came to my attention not long
    ago. The whole concept is still quite new to me. This echo has
    been a sort of 1st experiment for the last month or so. I'm
    using TgM with the DT (desktop) version, and the results are
    pretty good.

    From the various messages I've seen here the past few days, it looks to be working. I figured that it was a relatively new program. A definite step up I believe from a program I vaguely remember from years ago that gated to and from email through Juno, I believe. I could never get that to work right myself.

    The concept is probably ready for prime time; that is, more
    echos! :)

    I would think so. That would be the true test, seeing if it sorted multiple echos correctly.

    I don't see every echo suitable for this though. It's really up
    to a moderator to decide.

    That is always the case.

    I see that you are settled with HotdogEd. Tapping on a virtual keyboard in a reply like this one would give me sore finger
    joints. :D But, the whole idea is to a have handy portable
    access to the echos to read. Replying is totally optional.

    It can be awkward, but I'm getting more used to it.
    HotdogEd has its limitations, but it works better for me than telnet on the phone. And as you say, I can access echos basically anywhere, so it is convenient.


    --
    Best regards!
    Posted using Hotdoged on Android
    --- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
    * Origin: The Oasis, Houston, Texas, USA (2:240/1120.976)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Alan Ianson on Tue Sep 8 14:37:08 2020
    Hi, Alan!

    07 сен 20 16:39, Alan Ianson -> August Abolins:

    If I had to put on my moderator hat I would do that from the fido
    side. So far I haven't had to do that and I don't see that becoming an issue.

    In this case, you should to contact me in case of violations by telegram users and I will block such violators.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Мне бесполезно что-либо запрещать, я и так не собираюсь ничего делать.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Tue Sep 8 14:41:36 2020
    Hi, August!

    07 сен 20 20:12, August Abolins -> Charles Pierson:

    Of course. The Telegram gate only came to my attention not
    long ago. The whole concept is still quite new to me. This
    echo has been a sort of 1st experiment for the last month or
    so.

    Not at all. The first experiments were carried out with Russian-language echo conferences.

    I'm using TgM with the DT (desktop) version, and the
    results are pretty good.

    Thanks...

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- "Потом" - утешительная форма "никогда".
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue Sep 8 09:24:00 2020
    Hello Stas!

    ** On Tuesday 08.09.20 - 14:41, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to August Abolins:

    Of course. The Telegram gate only came to my attention not
    long ago. The whole concept is still quite new to me. This
    echo has been a sort of 1st experiment for the last month or
    so.

    Not at all. The first experiments were carried out with Russian-language echo conferences.

    What I meant was that "this echo", the FUTURE4FIDO echo, is the
    1st backboned and english echo experiment that I was aware of.

    I *did* learn about the gate's pre-existence moving Russian-
    language echos.

    When did Fido2telebot first go live?


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Tony Langdon on Tue Sep 8 19:30:07 2020
    On 08/09/2020 12:50 a.m., Tony Langdon : August Abolins wrote:

    While not perfect, Telegram is the best solution I've seen so far. :)

    In other respects it may be better. I think the message S)earch feature is amazing. So, it is relatively easy to track down a particular post.

    Stas' message-find on the FTN side is pretty decent too.

    I like that links in messages are managed in their on section called "Shared Links". And that too is S)earchable.

    Photos (Files?) & Videos have their own sections too. It's a convenient accessible cloud storage for stuff.


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    ─Аboli┼Ж┼б

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue Sep 8 19:57:58 2020
    On 08/09/2020 4:17 a.m., Stas Mishchenkov : Alan Ianson wrote:

    DOS
    FIDO-REQ

    These have now started gating like private groups in Telegram. August
    added
    to them.

    Oh! OK, I think. ;)


    All members of the group can add others to the group.

    That's a good thing. "A friend tells a friend.." It also generates a kind of accountability when someone adds someone new.

    I can do it in open groups, but it is fraught with SPAM.
    As I create other echo conferences, I will do the same.

    Moderators that have Telegram accounts could announce that the request to be added with a message addressed to @<moderator>



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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Charles Pierson on Tue Sep 8 20:22:23 2020
    On 07/09/2020 10:49 p.m., Charles Pierson : August Abolins wrote:

    The concept is probably ready for prime time; that is, more
    echos! :)

    I would think so. That would be the true test, seeing if it sorted
    multiple echos correctly.

    Apparently, I am now "in" the gated DOS and FIDO-REQ groups on TgM. I quickly noticed that the groups can be sorted into Folders. I now have a folder with:

    FUTURE4FIDO
    DOS
    FIDO-REQ

    Nice 'n' neat, and uncluttered.

    Before that I freaked out.. and thought I'd end up with a mixed list of a Users
    and Groups with no way to identify just the Fido groups.


    I see that you are settled with HotdogEd..

    It can be awkward, but I'm getting more used to it.
    HotdogEd has its limitations, but it works better for me than
    telnet on the phone. And as you say, I can access echos
    basically anywhere, so it is convenient.

    If you are so inclined, your thoughts on the Fidonet<->TgM gate/usage would be useful.


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue Sep 8 22:26:02 2020
    On 08/09/2020 5:27 a.m., Stas Mishchenkov : Charles Pierson wrote:

    I think it is worth creating an open GATE2FIDO group and to link it to the
    echo conference of the same name.
    Do mean like a dedicated public echo so that the Telegram user can find a good starting point to enter the FTN world of echos?

    Hmmm. THEGATE2FIDO would be cool, because there is no other than "the" gate. ;)

    How 'bout a read-only (via supergroup) group on the Telegram side that has sufficient information of all the currently gated echos. Read-only would be a good way to thwart spammers, trolls, and stupid questions.

    A moderator could then optionally manage the salient content/echo updates from the FTN side.

    I'm just considering aspects that would help minimize too much administrative and moderator-like WORK for you.


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  • From Charles Pierson@2:240/1120.976 to August Abolins on Tue Sep 8 21:19:07 2020
    Hello, August Abolins.
    On 9/8/20 8:22 PM you wrote:

    It can be awkward, but I'm getting more used to it. HotdogEd has
    its limitations, but it works better for me than telnet on the
    phone. And as you say, I can access echos basically anywhere, so
    it is convenient.
    If you are so inclined, your thoughts on the Fidonet<->TgM
    gate/usage would be useful.

    I would be interested in checking it out. I'm not familiar with Telegram, but I like trying new things.

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Charles Pierson on Tue Sep 8 22:39:00 2020
    Hello Charles!

    ** On Tuesday 08.09.20 - 21:19, Charles Pierson wrote to August Abolins:


    I would be interested in checking it out. I'm not familiar with
    Telegram, but I like trying new things.

    Ok.. Get setup with Telegram, then give me a heads up
    @aabolins when you are ready.



    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to August Abolins on Wed Sep 9 14:26:00 2020
    On 09-08-20 19:30, August Abolins wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    On 08/09/2020 12:50 a.m., Tony Langdon : August Abolins wrote:

    While not perfect, Telegram is the best solution I've seen so far. :)

    In other respects it may be better. I think the message S)earch
    feature is amazing. So, it is relatively easy to track down a
    particular post.

    I haven't played with that side of things. I tend not to use search features unless they're obvious in front of me. :/

    And Telegram's handling of multimedia content is pretty good.


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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Wed Sep 9 12:13:50 2020
    Hi, August!

    08 сен 20 09:24, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    When did Fido2telebot first go live?

    I don't remember the exact date, but about a year and a half ago.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Ругаться матом нехорошо... Но называть вещи своими именами необходимо.
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Wed Sep 9 12:25:26 2020
    Hi, August!

    08 сен 20 19:30, August Abolins -> Tony Langdon:

    Stas' message-find on the FTN side is pretty decent too.

    Yep...
    Yesterday, some stupid Artificial Intelligence sent such a request, for which it received about 8000 msgs via netmail, one letter by one. :(
    Now I'm thinking what can be done about this without completely rewriting the search engine.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Wed Sep 9 12:35:36 2020
    Hi, August!

    08 сен 20 19:57, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Oh! OK, I think. ;)

    Sorry, but I have no one else in my contacts who could add others.


    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Wed Sep 9 13:30:00 2020
    Hello August!

    *** Tuesday 08.09.20 at 19:30, August Abolins wrote to Tony Langdon:

    While not perfect, Telegram is the best solution I've seen so far. :)

    In other respects it may be better. I think the message S)earch feature is amazing. So, it is relatively easy to track down a particular post.

    Stas' message-find on the FTN side is pretty decent too.

    I like that links in messages are managed in their on section called "Shared Links". And that too is S)earchable.

    Where do I find the "Shared Links" section?

    Photos (Files?) & Videos have their own sections too. It's a convenient accessible cloud storage for stuff.

    Where do I find those sections?

    BTW ... I was going to reply to this message with Telegram but most of the last paragraph is missing. For some reason, it seems to have been
    truncated after "(Files?)".

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed Sep 9 08:25:00 2020
    Hello Stas!

    ** On Wednesday 09.09.20 - 12:35, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to August Abolins:


    Sorry, but I have no one else in my contacts who could add others.


    That's ok. I understand the reason. It's actually a pretty
    good way for a moderator (if they are a creator of a group on
    the TgM side) to have good control of new users.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Martin Foster on Wed Sep 9 15:46:58 2020
    Hi, Martin!

    09 сен 20 13:30, Martin Foster -> August Abolins:

    BTW ... I was going to reply to this message with Telegram but most of
    the last paragraph is missing. For some reason, it seems to have been truncated after "(Files?)".

    I already know about the "ampersant" problem. This is a drawback of the currently used method of sending messages to Telegram. It will be solved soon.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Кто не любит вина, женщин и песен, так дypаком и yмpет!
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Wed Sep 9 08:51:00 2020
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Wednesday 09.09.20 - 13:30, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

    Where do I find the "Shared Links" section?

    Photos (Files?) //[ampersand]// Videos have their own sections too. It's a convenient
    accessible cloud storage for stuff.

    Where do I find those sections?

    I'l; reply in TgM on the above.


    BTW ... I was going to reply to this message with Telegram but most of
    the last paragraph is missing. For some reason, it seems to have been truncated after "(Files?)".

    Yep. The ampersand char seems to trigger a cut-off through
    the gate.


    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58)
  • From Martin Foster@2:460/58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed Sep 9 15:55:11 2020
    Answering a msg from Stas Mishchenkov:

    Hi, Martin!

    09 сен 20 13:30, Martin Foster -> August Abolins:

    BTW ... I was going to reply to this message with Telegram but most of the last paragraph is missing. For some reason, it seems to have been truncated after "(Files?)".

    I already know about the "ampersant" problem. This is a drawback of the currently used method of sending messages to Telegram. It will be solved soon.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    Hi Stas!

    Ah OK and keep up the good work :)

    Regards,
    Martin


    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Tony Langdon on Wed Sep 9 18:56:54 2020
    On 09/09/2020 12:26 a.m., Tony Langdon : August Abolins wrote:

    In other respects it may be better. I think the message
    S)earch feature is amazing. ..

    I haven't played with that side of things. I tend not to use
    search features unless they're obvious in front of me.: /

    The S)earch symbol is *always* right at the top. ;)


    And Telegram's handling of multimedia content is pretty
    good.

    Yes.. it's like each echo can have its own cloud storage accessible to everyone.


    --

    --- TB(Stealth)/Win7
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Stas Mishchenkov on Thu Sep 10 05:14:51 2020
    On 9/9/2020 5:13 AM, between "Stas Mishchenkov : August Abolins":

    When did Fido2telebot first go live?

    I don't remember the exact date, but about a year and a half ago.

    If you could assign your work a version number, what would it be at this time?


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  • From Charles Pierson@2:240/1120.976 to August Abolins on Wed Sep 9 22:04:37 2020
    Hello, August Abolins.
    On 9/10/20 5:14 AM you wrote:

    On 9/9/2020 5:13 AM, between "Stas Mishchenkov : August Abolins":
    When did Fido2telebot first go live?
    I don't remember the exact date, but about a year and a half ago.
    If you could assign your work a version number, what would it be
    at this time?
    Is it strictly for FIDO, or could it potentially work with other networks?
    --
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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Charles Pierson on Wed Sep 9 23:22:00 2020
    Hello Charles!

    ** On Wednesday 09.09.20 - 22:04, Charles Pierson wrote to August Abolins:

    If you could assign your work a version number, what
    would it be at this time?

    Is it strictly for FIDO, or could it potentially work
    with other networks?

    That is something that Stas can only answer. ;)

    It's about 6:30a in Crimea at the time of this writing. He may
    join the conversation soon.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to August Abolins on Thu Sep 10 16:13:00 2020
    On 09-09-20 18:56, August Abolins wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    The S)earch symbol is *always* right at the top. ;)

    Probbly blends too much into the background for me. ;)

    And Telegram's handling of multimedia content is pretty
    good.

    Yes.. it's like each echo can have its own cloud storage accessible to everyone.

    Now if only there was something we could use for the BBS side and offline readers. :)


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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Thu Sep 10 09:42:00 2020
    Hello August!

    *** Wednesday 09.09.20 at 08:51, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    Where do I find the "Shared Links" section?

    Photos (Files?) //[ampersand]// Videos have their own sections too.
    It's a convenient accessible cloud storage for stuff.

    Where do I find those sections?

    I'l; reply in TgM on the above.

    OK, I await your reply :)

    Regards,
    Martin

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    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Thu Sep 10 12:21:24 2020
    Hi, August!

    10 сен 20 05:14, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    When did Fido2telebot first go live?

    I don't remember the exact date, but about a year and a half ago.

    If you could assign your work a version number, what would it be at this time?

    Let's count together.
    First, one of the nodes asked to help him make a transfer of his netmail on a perl to his telegram. I made it so that he could answer from Telegram. This is how it all started.
    Then I realized that a UUencoded file can be sent by netmail. I became very interested in such possibilities and made myself a simple gate for CRIMEA.TALK and some other echo conferences.
    Then the subscribers of PVT.ZONA got interested, which had already gated to the e-mail list. Together with them, for some time, the gate grew with opportunities and errors were corrected. A little later, the members of the fidonet.online group joined and an echo conference of the same name appeared. With their participation, changes and additions were also made for some time. For a while, I did not change anything and the gate worked for a long time in the form that the subscribers of this echo found. You know what happened next.
    It's about a0.0.4 version. ;)

    Now I have radically changed the way of sending messages to Fido and am finishing a new way of sending messages to Telegram. Then we will return to sending a netmail from Telegram to Fido.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Муж без жены - как дуб без дятла.
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Charles Pierson on Thu Sep 10 12:27:04 2020
    Hi, Charles!

    09 сен 20 22:04, Charles Pierson -> August Abolins:

    Is it strictly for FIDO, or could it potentially work with other
    networks?

    The gate can work in any FTN network.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Бухать - не выход. Но вариант.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Thu Sep 10 13:46:54 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    10 сен 20 16:13, Tony Langdon -> August Abolins:

    Yes.. it's like each echo can have its own cloud storage accessible
    to everyone.

    Now if only there was something we could use for the BBS side and offline readers. :)

    I can restore sending files from Telegram to Fido in the form of UUe. ;) Although, I strongly doubt that it will be better than now in the form of URL.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Если ложка не стоит в сметане, очевидно, виновата не ложка!
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:240/1120.976 to Stas Mishchenkov on Thu Sep 10 06:13:22 2020
    Hello, Stas Mishchenkov.
    On 9/10/20 12:27 PM you wrote:

    Is it strictly for FIDO, or could it potentially work with other
    networks?
    The gate can work in any FTN network.

    That's interesting. I might look into interest in that.

    --
    Best regards!
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    * Origin: The Oasis, Houston, Texas, USA (2:240/1120.976)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Charles Pierson on Thu Sep 10 17:30:26 2020
    Hi, Charles!

    10 сен 20 06:13, Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Is it strictly for FIDO, or could it potentially work with other
    networks?
    The gate can work in any FTN network.

    That's interesting. I might look into interest in that.

    Unfortunately, the portability of the code is now very low. :(

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Старость - это когда видишь сиськи и вспоминаешь, что забыл молока купить
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  • From Charles Pierson@2:460/58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Thu Sep 10 17:39:10 2020
    Answering a msg from Stas Mishchenkov:

    Hi, Charles!

    10 сен 20 06:13, Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Is it strictly for FIDO, or could it potentially work with other
    networks?
    The gate can work in any FTN network.

    That's interesting. I might look into interest in that.

    Unfortunately, the portability of the code is now very low. :(

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    As I said earlier, no rush. Just floating around ideas for future development. I tend to do that a lot for things that interest me.


    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Fri Sep 11 19:25:00 2020
    On 09-10-20 13:46, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I can restore sending files from Telegram to Fido in the form of UUe.
    ;) Although, I strongly doubt that it will be better than now in the
    form of URL.

    Yeah, not many really good options. URLs in offline readers are in the class of "ugly, but effective". :D Especially with Multimail's console interface it's a lot of mouse work - the keyboard shortcuts don't work in Windows either.
    :(


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Fri Sep 11 20:19:00 2020
    On 09-10-20 12:27, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Charles Pierson <=-

    Hi, Charles!

    09 сен 20 22:04, Charles Pierson -> August Abolins:

    Is it strictly for FIDO, or could it potentially work with other
    networks?

    The gate can work in any FTN network.

    At this stage, as long as you're part of the netowrk, I'm guessing. ;)


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Tony Langdon on Fri Sep 11 08:22:00 2020
    Hello Tony!

    ** On Friday 11.09.20 - 19:25, Tony Langdon wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    I can restore sending files from Telegram to Fido.. ..
    Although, I strongly doubt that it will be better than
    now in the form of URL.

    Yeah, not many really good options. URLs in offline
    readers are in the class of "ugly, but effective". :D
    Especially with Multimail's console interface it's a lot
    of mouse work - the keyboard shortcuts don't work in
    Windows either. :(

    OpenXP doesn't have that problem! ;) The TAB key seeks out
    anything that looks like a link in a message. When it lands
    on the one you want, a tap on the C key copies the link to
    clipboard. Then simply switch your browser to proceed.



    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Tony Langdon on Fri Sep 11 17:31:32 2020
    On 11/09/2020 6:19 a.m., Tony Langdon : Stas Mishchenkov wrote:

    Is it strictly for FIDO, or could it potentially work
    with other networks?

    The gate can work in any FTN network.

    At this stage, as long as you're part of the netowrk, I'm
    guessing.

    Ja.. TgM gating is like Jamnntp gating - an extension of the
    bbs system that implements it.



    --
    -AA

    --- TB(Stealth)/Win7
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to August Abolins on Fri Sep 11 18:59:37 2020
    On 11.09.2020 17:31, August Abolins wrote:

    The gate can work in any FTN network.

    At this stage, as long as you're part of the netowrk, I'm
    guessing.

    Ja.. TgM gating is like Jamnntp gating - an extension of the
    bbs system that implements it.

    I have to correct this.. JamNNTPd is not a gateway. It is a nntp reader for JAM base. :)

    'Tommi

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Tommi Koivula on Fri Sep 11 19:59:05 2020
    On 11/09/2020 11:59 a.m., Tommi Koivula : August Abolins wrote:

    Ja.. TgM gating is like Jamnntp gating - an extension of
    the bbs system that implements it.

    I have to correct this.. JamNNTPd is not a gateway. It is
    a nntp reader for JAM base.

    I appreciate the correction. I should have said it something
    like "TgM gating is akin to Jamnntp, but with benefits!" ;)

    For now, Stas' robot is single origin, not unlike my nntp
    connection with your system. The echos stay within the Fidonet
    network, with the convenience of reading them fed from Stas' bbs.



    --
    -AA

    --- TB(Stealth)/Win7
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Fri Sep 11 23:19:52 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    11 сен 20 19:25, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Yeah, not many really good options. URLs in offline readers are in
    the class of "ugly, but effective". :D Especially with Multimail's console interface it's a lot of mouse work - the keyboard shortcuts
    don't work in Windows either. :(

    Should we arrange a vote in favor of UUe or URL? ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Людeй, пeрeживших лeто в Симферополе, будут выгoнять из ада за смeх в кoтле
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Fri Sep 11 23:22:06 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    11 сен 20 20:19, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Is it strictly for FIDO, or could it potentially work with other
    networks?

    The gate can work in any FTN network.

    At this stage, as long as you're part of the netowrk, I'm guessing. ;)

    BTW, in the process of working on creating a gate, I gathered a sufficient library of procedures to write a good tosser on a pearl. ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- На кашу в голове хорошо бегут тараканы.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Fri Sep 11 20:35:00 2020
    Hello Stas!

    ** On Friday 11.09.20 - 23:19, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon:

    Should we arrange a vote in favor of UUe or URL? ;)

    I think we can be fairly confident that noone would want UUE
    here.

    The links work very nicely. Access to files on the TgM side
    is very cool.


    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:460/58 to August Abolins on Sat Sep 12 03:46:11 2020
    Answering a msg from August Abolins:

    Hello Stas!

    ** On Friday 11.09.20 - 23:19, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon:

    Should we arrange a vote in favor of UUe or URL? ;)

    I think we can be fairly confident that noone would want UUE
    here.

    The links work very nicely. Access to files on the TgM side
    is very cool.


    --
    ../|ug

    I haven't messed around with UUE in decades. I doubt I'd remember how.


    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to August Abolins on Sat Sep 12 15:52:00 2020
    On 09-11-20 08:22, August Abolins wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    OpenXP doesn't have that problem! ;) The TAB key seeks out
    anything that looks like a link in a message. When it lands
    on the one you want, a tap on the C key copies the link to
    clipboard. Then simply switch your browser to proceed.

    But I thought we already established that OpenXP might not be sutable for me.
    )


    ... A Canadian? It's like an American, without the gun, with health care.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to August Abolins on Sat Sep 12 15:56:00 2020
    On 09-11-20 17:31, August Abolins wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Ja.. TgM gating is like Jamnntp gating - an extension of the
    bbs system that implements it.

    Yes, true, it gives more options. :)


    ... Given my druthers, I'd druther not.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sat Sep 12 16:00:00 2020
    On 09-11-20 23:19, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Should we arrange a vote in favor of UUe or URL? ;)

    I think URL is the lesser of two evils, because UUE handling is even wrse in most FTN software. ;)


    ... Should I weed the lawn or say it's a garden?
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sat Sep 12 16:01:00 2020
    On 09-11-20 23:22, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    BTW, in the process of working on creating a gate, I gathered a
    sufficient library of procedures to write a good tosser on a pearl. ;)

    If a more portable version of the Telegram gate ever comes about, I would be interested in running one on my othernet. :)


    ... 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Sat Sep 12 12:54:20 2020
    Hi, August!

    11 сен 20 20:35, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Should we arrange a vote in favor of UUe or URL? ;)

    I think we can be fairly confident that noone would want UUE
    here.

    I think so too.

    The links work very nicely. Access to files on the TgM side
    is very cool.

    However, we are losing some of the benefits of offline technology.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Нa opужейнoм зaвoдe заpплату дают дeнь в день, cекунда в секунду
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Charles Pierson on Sat Sep 12 13:06:46 2020
    Hi, Charles!

    12 сен 20 03:46, Charles Pierson -> August Abolins:

    I haven't messed around with UUE in decades. I doubt I'd remember how.

    This is not necessary to remember now. It is enough to know that UUencoded files from all echo conferences that pass through my node can be viewed at https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/uue/ ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Муж без жены - как дуб без дятла.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Sat Sep 12 11:02:00 2020
    Hello August!

    *** Friday 11.09.20 at 08:22, August Abolins wrote to Tony Langdon:

    I can restore sending files from Telegram to Fido.. ..
    Although, I strongly doubt that it will be better than
    now in the form of URL.

    Yeah, not many really good options. URLs in offline
    readers are in the class of "ugly, but effective". :D
    Especially with Multimail's console interface it's a lot
    of mouse work - the keyboard shortcuts don't work in
    Windows either. :(

    OpenXP doesn't have that problem! ;) The TAB key seeks out
    anything that looks like a link in a message. When it lands
    on the one you want, a tap on the C key copies the link to
    clipboard. Then simply switch your browser to proceed.

    ..... or alternatively, hit <Enter> on the highlighted URL and it will be loaded straight into your default browser :)

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Sat Sep 12 13:33:18 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    12 сен 20 16:00, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    I think URL is the lesser of two evils,

    It is for this reason that I did so as it is.

    because UUE handling is even wrse in most FTN software. ;)

    Anyone can improve this by using: https://github.com/huskyproject/hpt/blob/master/misc/uue.pm
    ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Запомни, люди не меняются, ты их просто лучше узнаёшь.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Sat Sep 12 13:35:30 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    12 сен 20 16:01, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    BTW, in the process of working on creating a gate, I gathered a
    sufficient library of procedures to write a good tosser on a pearl.
    ;)

    If a more portable version of the Telegram gate ever comes about, I would be interested in running one on my othernet. :)

    The new part of the gate, copying messages from Fido to Telegram, is quite portable. With a little portability tweak, I can share it. The part copying from Telegram to Fido requires much more effort for its portability and I don't know yet when I will take it.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Кто не любит вина, женщин и песен, так дypаком и yмpет!
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Charles Pierson@2:240/1120.976 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sat Sep 12 06:53:36 2020
    Hello, Stas Mishchenkov.
    On 9/12/20 1:06 PM you wrote:

    This is not necessary to remember now. It is enough to know that UUencoded files from all echo conferences that pass through my
    node can be viewed at https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/uue/ ;)

    That link works no problem with my point application here. So it works for me.

    --
    Best regards!
    Posted using Hotdoged on Android
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    * Origin: The Oasis, Houston, Texas, USA (2:240/1120.976)
  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Tony Langdon on Sat Sep 12 08:02:20 2020
    On 12 Sep 2020, Tony Langdon said the following...

    ... A Canadian? It's like an American, without the gun, with health care.

    And poutine! Don't forget the poutine!

    Jay

    ... What do you get when two dinosaurs crash their cars? A T-Wrecks.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Northern Realms (1:229/664)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Tony Langdon on Sat Sep 12 08:29:00 2020
    Hello Tony!

    ** On Saturday 12.09.20 - 15:52, Tony Langdon wrote to August Abolins:

    OpenXP doesn't have that problem! ;) The TAB key
    seeks out anything that looks like a link in a message..

    But I thought we already established that OpenXP might
    not be sutable for me. )

    Heheh. Not "we". You wondered that it might not have the
    portability across devices that you seek. But you said that
    you might still like to give a visit.


    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Charles Pierson on Sat Sep 12 16:04:12 2020
    Hi, Charles!

    12 сен 20 06:53, Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    This is not necessary to remember now. It is enough to know that
    UUencoded files from all echo conferences that pass through my
    node can be viewed at https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/uue/ ;)

    That link works no problem with my point application here. So it works
    for
    me.

    So now you know that you don't have to mess with YuYue, and where you can see the decoded files. Hope this is useful to someone else.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Запомни, люди не меняются, ты их просто лучше узнаёшь.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun Sep 13 18:45:00 2020
    On 09-12-20 13:33, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Hi, Tony!

    12 сен 20 16:00, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    I think URL is the lesser of two evils,

    It is for this reason that I did so as it is.

    I'd have done the same. :)

    because UUE handling is even wrse in most FTN software. ;)

    Anyone can improve this by using: https://github.com/huskyproject/hpt/blob/master/misc/uue.pm ;)

    Too tosser specific and I can't see a way to pick up my file with my mail. ;)


    ... Why risk a hangover? Stay Drunk!!
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun Sep 13 18:46:00 2020
    On 09-12-20 13:35, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    The new part of the gate, copying messages from Fido to Telegram, is
    quite portable. With a little portability tweak, I can share it. The
    part copying from Telegram to Fido requires much more effort for its portability and I don't know yet when I will take it.


    I'm guessing it will eventually happen, emphasis on "eventually". ;)


    ... The nicest thing about growing older is that it takes such a long time.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Jay Harris on Sun Sep 13 18:47:00 2020
    On 09-12-20 08:02, Jay Harris wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    On 12 Sep 2020, Tony Langdon said the following...

    ... A Canadian? It's like an American, without the gun, with health care.

    And poutine! Don't forget the poutine!

    ??? That reference is lost on me (not a word that I understand).


    ... Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to August Abolins on Sun Sep 13 18:48:00 2020
    On 09-12-20 08:29, August Abolins wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    But I thought we already established that OpenXP might
    not be sutable for me. )

    Heheh. Not "we". You wondered that it might not have the
    portability across devices that you seek. But you said that
    you might still like to give a visit.

    You provided the info ;). It came across as much like a point system, and a point system is definitely not the way to go.


    ... Scepticism is the beginning of faith.
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Sun Sep 13 12:50:38 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    13 сен 20 18:45, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Anyone can improve this by using:
    https://github.com/huskyproject/hpt/blob/master/misc/uue.pm ;)

    Too tosser specific and I can't see a way to pick up my file with my
    mail.
    ;)

    Not at all. You can use it without tosser.

    ==== uudecode.pl ====
    #!/usr/bin/perl
    use uue;
    my $filename = @ARGV[0];
    my $outdir = @ARGV[1];
    my $text;

    $outdir = '.' if !defined $outdir;

    if( open( BINFH, ">$filename" ) ) {
    read( BINFH, $text, -s $filename );
    uu_decode( 'decoded', $text, $outdir );
    close( BINFH );
    } else { print STDERR "Can't open \'$filename\'. ($!)."; }

    ==== uudecode.pl ====

    Usage: uudecode.pl /home/fido/inbound/12345678.pkt /home/fido/inbound
    or simply
    uudecode.pl /home/fido/inbound/12345678.pkt
    if you dont care were decoded files will. ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Каждый раз бухай как последний. Потому что однажды так и будет.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Sun Sep 13 13:20:40 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    13 сен 20 18:46, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    I'm guessing it will eventually happen, emphasis on "eventually". ;)

    If everything goes as I expect, then by about March 2021 it is quite possible.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Запомни, люди не меняются, ты их просто лучше узнаёшь.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Sun Sep 13 13:21:38 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    13 сен 20 18:47, Tony Langdon -> Jay Harris:

    ??? That reference is lost on me (not a word that I understand).

    Jay means Putin - the prsidetnt of Russian Federation. ;)

    - Mr. President, they say Jen Psaki is pregnant.
    - Is it just me or the whole of Russia being accused?

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Очень помогает проснуться с утра арбуз с вечера.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Tony Langdon on Sun Sep 13 07:03:36 2020
    On 13 Sep 2020, Tony Langdon said the following...

    ... A Canadian? It's like an American, without the gun, with health

    And poutine! Don't forget the poutine!

    ??? That reference is lost on me (not a word that I understand).

    Poutine is a French Canadian dish that consists of french fries covered with cheese curds & gravy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine

    Jay

    ... What do you call a pig that does karate? Pork chop.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Northern Realms (1:229/664)
  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/58 to Jay Harris on Sun Sep 13 15:44:11 2020
    Answering a msg from Jay Harris:
    On 13 Sep 2020, Tony Langdon said the following...

    ... A Canadian? It's like an American, without the gun, with health

    And poutine! Don't forget the poutine!

    ??? That reference is lost on me (not a word that I understand).

    Poutine is a French Canadian dish that consists of french fries covered with >cheese curds & gravy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine

    Jay

    ... What do you call a pig that does karate? Pork chop.

    A-ha...
    I'm sorry. I didn't know that such a kind of food existed at all. I will have to try to cook.
    What sauce is usually used?


    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Jay Harris on Sun Sep 13 15:46:34 2020
    Hi, Jay!

    13 сен 20 07:03, Jay Harris -> Tony Langdon:

    Poutine is a French Canadian dish

    Is this food typical only for Quebec or for all of Canada?

    that consists of french fries covered with cheese curds & gravy.

    Is gravy means "meat sauce"?

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Мудрость - это когда ты всё понимаешь, но уже не огорчаешься.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun Sep 13 09:38:18 2020
    On 13 Sep 2020, Stas Mishchenkov said the following...

    Poutine is a French Canadian dish

    Is this food typical only for Quebec or for all of Canada?

    It's enjoyed all over Canada. Even McDonald's serves it here:

    https://www.mcdonalds.com/ca/en-ca/product/poutine.html

    that consists of french fries covered with cheese curds & gravy.

    Is gravy means "meat sauce"?

    Yes, I believe so:

    "Gravy is a sauce often made from the juices of meats that run naturally
    during cooking and often thickened with wheat flour or corn starch for added texture."

    Jay

    ... I used to be addicted to soap, but I'm clean now.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Northern Realms (1:229/664)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Sun Sep 13 20:20:52 2020

    *** Ответ на сообщение из _Carbon.Mail (Carbon.Mail).

    Hi, Tony!

    11 сен 20 20:19, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    The gate can work in any FTN network.

    At this stage, as long as you're part of the netowrk, I'm guessing. ;)

    Something tells me that I will leave the net only with my feet forward. But it can happen at any moment.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Снесла курочка яичко старику и выразительно посмотрела на модератора.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Mon Sep 14 18:04:00 2020
    On 09-13-20 12:50, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Hi, Tony!

    13 сен 20 18:45, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Anyone can improve this by using:
    https://github.com/huskyproject/hpt/blob/master/misc/uue.pm ;)

    Too tosser specific and I can't see a way to pick up my file with my
    mail.
    ;)

    Not at all. You can use it without tosser.

    Hmm, OK, still looking a bit ugly, given that the files are going to be dumped somewhere on the BBS system. Suppose I could always run Samba and share the file directory, so I can easily grab the files. :)


    ... I stayed up all night to see where the sun went. Then it dawned on me.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Mon Sep 14 18:05:00 2020
    On 09-13-20 13:20, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Hi, Tony!

    13 сен 20 18:46, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    I'm guessing it will eventually happen, emphasis on "eventually". ;)

    If everything goes as I expect, then by about March 2021 it is quite possible.

    Cool, I'll keep an eye on progress, and will definitely be interested to unleash it on my net, once it's portable.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Mon Sep 14 18:07:00 2020
    On 09-13-20 13:21, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Hi, Tony!

    13 сен 20 18:47, Tony Langdon -> Jay Harris:

    ??? That reference is lost on me (not a word that I understand).

    Jay means Putin - the prsidetnt of Russian Federation. ;)

    - Mr. President, they say Jen Psaki is pregnant.
    - Is it just me or the whole of Russia being accused?

    :)


    ... It beeped and said "Countdown initiated". Is that bad?
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Jay Harris on Mon Sep 14 18:08:00 2020
    On 09-13-20 07:03, Jay Harris wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Poutine is a French Canadian dish that consists of french fries covered with cheese curds & gravy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine

    OK, never heard of it (and sounds a little gross - I'm not a fan of gravy on chips at the best of time). :)


    ... I'm not afraid of heights. I'm afraid of widths.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Mon Sep 14 18:09:00 2020
    On 09-13-20 20:20, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Something tells me that I will leave the net only with my feet forward. But it can happen at any moment.

    Haha, that's commitment. ;)


    ... NEW! John Bobbitt doll. Some disassembly required.
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Tue Sep 15 09:09:28 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    14 сен 20 18:04, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Anyone can improve this by using:
    https://github.com/huskyproject/hpt/blob/master/misc/uue.pm ;)

    [...skipped...]

    Hmm, OK, still looking a bit ugly, given that the files are going to
    be dumped somewhere on the BBS system. Suppose I could always run
    Samba and share the file directory, so I can easily grab the files. :)

    In the example of using the library, you can explicitly specify where the decoded files will be created. It can be anywhere.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Настроение было настолько хреновым, что даже печень предложила выпить.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Tue Sep 15 09:22:22 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    14 сен 20 18:08, Tony Langdon -> Jay Harris:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine

    OK, never heard of it (and sounds a little gross - I'm not a fan of gravy on chips at the best of time). :)

    In our area some oane are also very fond of fried potatoes with fried onions and a little meat gravy, but no cheese. It is quite edible. This dish has no special name. Not often found in Crimea. It is rather typical for Ukrainian cooking.

    It's a pity, but yesterday my doctor explained to me in great detail why I will never be able to try poutine. :(

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue Sep 15 18:40:00 2020
    On 09-15-20 09:09, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    In the example of using the library, you can explicitly specify where
    the decoded files will be created. It can be anywhere.

    But still not necessarily in a convenient place. And I don't like the idea of blindly decoding files. I need context, which is normally provided by the email it was attached to.

    As I said, the URL was the lesser of two evils. :D


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue Sep 15 18:44:00 2020
    On 09-15-20 09:22, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    In our area some oane are also very fond of fried potatoes with fried onions and a little meat gravy, but no cheese. It is quite edible. This dish has no special name. Not often found in Crimea. It is rather
    typical for Ukrainian cooking.

    Oh, OK. Sounds a bit like what some people might snack on here.

    It's a pity, but yesterday my doctor explained to me in great detail
    why I will never be able to try poutine. :(

    Dairy intolerant? High cholesterol? Or something worse?


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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Wed Sep 16 07:27:54 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    15 сен 20 18:40, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    In the example of using the library, you can explicitly specify where
    the decoded files will be created. It can be anywhere.

    But still not necessarily in a convenient place.

    Explain to me, if you can specify any place, why to specify an inconvenient one? ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tony Langdon on Wed Sep 16 07:30:18 2020
    Hi, Tony!

    15 сен 20 18:44, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    In our area some oane are also very fond of fried potatoes with fried
    onions and a little meat gravy, but no cheese. It is quite edible.
    This dish has no special name. Not often found in Crimea. It is
    rather typical for Ukrainian cooking.

    Oh, OK. Sounds a bit like what some people might snack on here.

    It is not used as a stand-alone dish. Usually a few good meatballs or a couple of chops are added to the plate. This is all eaten with a salad of tomatoes, cucumbers and sweet onions with sour cream or sub-leaf or olive oil. It is unlikely that such a plentiful meal can be called a "snack".

    It's a pity, but yesterday my doctor explained to me in great detail
    why I will never be able to try poutine. :(

    Dairy intolerant? High cholesterol? Or something worse?

    Holichistitis, cholelithiasis, reactive pancreatitis. And I still haven't eaten so many tasty things. ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed Sep 16 19:54:00 2020
    On 09-16-20 07:27, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Explain to me, if you can specify any place, why to specify an inconvenient one? ;)

    It's not in my QWK packet. :P


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed Sep 16 19:57:00 2020
    On 09-16-20 07:30, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    It is not used as a stand-alone dish. Usually a few good meatballs or a couple of chops are added to the plate. This is all eaten with a salad
    of tomatoes, cucumbers and sweet onions with sour cream or sub-leaf or olive oil. It is unlikely that such a plentiful meal can be called a "snack".

    Oh, OK. Yeah that does sound like a decent meal. :)

    Holichistitis, cholelithiasis, reactive pancreatitis. And I still
    haven't eaten so many tasty things. ;)

    Hmm, I'm not familiar with those issues, might have to consult Dr Google (though I'm catching up after being at a major industrial accident for most of the day, and probably won't remember). :/


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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to All on Fri Sep 18 07:56:50 2020
    Hi, All!

    16 сен 20 19:57, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    @TZUTC: 1000
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    On 09-16-20 07:30, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    It is not used as a stand-alone dish. Usually a few good meatballs or a
    couple of chops are added to the plate. This is all eaten with a salad
    of tomatoes, cucumbers and sweet onions with sour cream or sub-leaf or
    olive oil. It is unlikely that such a plentiful meal can be called a
    "snack".

    Oh, OK. Yeah that does sound like a decent meal. :)

    Holichistitis, cholelithiasis, reactive pancreatitis. And I still
    haven't eaten so many tasty things. ;)

    Hmm, I'm not familiar with those issues, might have to consult Dr Google (though I'm catching up after being at a major industrial accident for most of the day, and probably won't remember). :/


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    I've already seen this message with another MSGID.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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