• Indeed: https://t.me/joinchat/DAu99h2akh1MVpzOUWMbsQ

    From Wilfred van Velzen@2:460/58 to August Abolins on Fri Nov 20 20:41:36 2020
    Why not produce an invite link to the FidoNet group that you created and
    administer? ;)

    Indeed: https://t.me/joinchat/DAu99h2akh1MVpzOUWMbsQ ?


    --- tg BBS v0.6.2
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/58 to August Abolins on Fri Nov 20 20:45:16 2020
    Why not produce an invite link to the FidoNet group that you created and
    administer? ;)

    And what prevents us from creating an echo conference of the same name in Fido and linking them? ;)


    --- tg BBS v0.6.2
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Brother Rabbit on Fri Nov 20 20:53:11 2020
    And what prevents us from creating an echo conference of the same name in
    Fido and linking them? ;)

    Moderator approval? <g,d,r>


    --- tg BBS v0.6.2
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Brother Rabbit on Fri Nov 20 18:52:23 2020
    Hi Brother,

    On 2020-11-20 20:45:16, you wrote to August Abolins:

    Why not produce an invite link to the FidoNet group that you created
    and administer? ;)

    And what prevents us from creating an echo conference of the same name in Fido and linking them? ;)

    The name of the group is rather pretentious: "FidoNet"

    I didn't have gating in mind when I created it. I think it should remain an Telegram exclusive group. We have enough areas that are already gated.

    A new echomail area TELEGRAM. Or TELEGRAM.FIDONET would be a good idea though, I think. Or can a gated area have different names on the Telegram and Fidonet side? Than it can be TELEGRAM on the fidonet side and FidoNet on the Telegram side. ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Nov 20 21:04:12 2020
    2:280/464 5fb80258
    Hi Brother,

    On 2020-11-20 20:45:16, you wrote to August Abolins:

    Why not produce an invite link to the FidoNet group that you
    created
    and administer? ;)

    And what prevents us from creating an echo conference of the same
    name in
    Fido and linking them? ;)

    The name of the group is rather pretentious: "FidoNet"

    I didn't have gating in mind when I created it. I think it should remain
    an Telegram exclusive group. We have enough areas that are already gated.

    A new echomail area TELEGRAM. Or TELEGRAM.FIDONET would be a good idea
    though, I think. Or can a gated area have different names on the Telegram and Fidonet side? Than it can be TELEGRAM on the fidonet side and FidoNet on the Telegram side. ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

    You may like to adjust some permissions. I think I just changed the name of it for everyone! Sorry, I thought that it would only rename for me. Or does it?

    Meanwhile a new fido echo for the TgM/Fido topic might be good.


    --- tg BBS v0.6.2
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Fri Nov 20 21:06:20 2020
    Hi, August!

    20 ноя 20 20:53, August Abolins -> Brother Rabbit:

    And what prevents us from creating an echo conference of the same
    name in Fido and linking them? ;)

    Moderator approval? <g,d,r>

    Well, so, here we are trying to agree. ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Каждый раз бухай как последний. Потому что однажды так и будет.
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  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Nov 20 21:11:21 2020

    A new echomail area TELEGRAM. Or TELEGRAM.FIDONET would
    be a good idea though, I think. Or can a gated area have
    different names on the Telegram and Fidonet side? Than it
    can be TELEGRAM on the fidonet side and FidoNet on the
    Telegram side. ;-)

    Telegram produces an ID # for every group. Stas' bot uses the ID #. The name can change on the TgM side at any time and and the activity is unaffected. That is my understanding of it.

    --- tg BBS v0.6.2
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Nov 20 21:07:08 2020
    Hi, Wilfred!

    20 ноя 20 18:52, Wilfred van Velzen -> Brother Rabbit:

    The name of the group is rather pretentious: "FidoNet"

    It's perfect!

    I didn't have gating in mind when I created it. I think it should
    remain an Telegram exclusive group. We have enough areas that are
    already gated.

    May be you are right. I thought it would be more convenient this way, but you certainly know better. This is not the only Telegram group about Fido without Fido.

    A new echomail area TELEGRAM. Or TELEGRAM.FIDONET would be a good idea though, I think.

    Ok. Let's do it!

    Or can a gated area have different names on the Telegram
    and Fidonet side?

    Yes. The name of the group now may be completely different from ECHOTAG. Such groups even already exist.

    Than it can be TELEGRAM on the fidonet side and FidoNet
    on the Telegram side. ;-)

    Yes. It can be that way.

    I really liked both of your ideas. We can create a FIDONET.TELEGRAM group associated with TELEGRAM.FIDONET echo and/or link the FidoNet group with the TELEGRAM echo. It is very important that they are international and it is desirable to have one of these groups open, public.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Fri Nov 20 21:20:54 2020
    Hi, August!

    20 ноя 20 21:11, August Abolins -> Wilfred van Velzen:

    Telegram produces an ID # for every group. Stas' bot uses the ID #.
    The name can change on the TgM side at any time and and the activity
    is unaffected. That is my understanding of it.

    You are right.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- На халяву не только уксус сладок, но и свинина постна, халяльна и кошерна.
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Fri Nov 20 20:47:57 2020
    Hi August,

    On 2020-11-20 21:04:12, you wrote to me:

    You may like to adjust some permissions. I think I just changed the
    name of it for everyone! Sorry, I thought that it would only rename
    for me. Or does it?

    It renamed it for everyone. I think I have the permisions fixed now.

    Meanwhile a new fido echo for the TgM/Fido topic might be good.

    This area already kind of serves as such... But a clearer area tagname (so implicitly a new area), might be usefull.

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Fri Nov 20 20:50:05 2020
    Hi August,

    On 2020-11-20 21:11:21, you wrote to me:

    A new echomail area TELEGRAM. Or TELEGRAM.FIDONET would
    be a good idea though, I think. Or can a gated area have
    different names on the Telegram and Fidonet side? Than it
    can be TELEGRAM on the fidonet side and FidoNet on the
    Telegram side. ;-)

    Telegram produces an ID # for every group. Stas' bot uses the ID #. The name can change on the TgM side at any time and and the activity is unaffected. That is my understanding of it.

    Ok, good, so we don't have to worry about the tagname...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Stas Mishchenkov on Fri Nov 20 20:53:16 2020
    Hi Stas,

    On 2020-11-20 21:07:08, you wrote to me:

    A new echomail area TELEGRAM. Or TELEGRAM.FIDONET would be a good
    idea though, I think.

    Ok. Let's do it!

    Or can a gated area have different names on the Telegram
    and Fidonet side?

    Yes. The name of the group now may be completely different from ECHOTAG. Such groups even already exist.

    Than it can be TELEGRAM on the fidonet side and FidoNet
    on the Telegram side. ;-)

    Yes. It can be that way.

    I really liked both of your ideas. We can create a FIDONET.TELEGRAM group associated with TELEGRAM.FIDONET echo and/or link the FidoNet group with the TELEGRAM echo. It is very important that they are international and
    it
    is desirable to have one of these groups open, public.

    Not to confuse people to much I think the names should be the same on both sides. So how about TELEGRAM.FIDONET, unless someone has a better idea?

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sat Nov 21 06:27:11 2020
    2:460/5858 5fb805ab
    Hi, August!

    20 ноя 20 20:53, August Abolins -> Brother Rabbit:

    And what prevents us from creating an echo conference of the same BR>> name in Fido and linking them? ;)

    Moderator approval? <g,d,r>

    Well, so, here we are trying to agree. ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    Hi Stas,

    I see the progress you are attempting for the Telegram user! :)

    The top of the messages as they arrive, now include a new line with the From node address and msgid on a 3rd line.

    Perhaps you could drop the node address since it is already present in the official "--From: " line at the top.

    Or.. is this a first step in a plan to use the msgid for constructing a replyid when a TgM user does an actual R)eply from this app?


    --- tg BBS v0.6.2
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Nov 21 13:54:26 2020
    Hi, Wilfred!

    20 ноя 20 20:53, Wilfred van Velzen -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Not to confuse people to much I think the names should be the same on both sides. So how about TELEGRAM.FIDONET, unless someone has a
    better idea?

    May be it will be better tu use FIDONET.TELEGRAM tag?

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Не откладывай пьянку на завтра, а секс на старость.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sat Nov 21 14:46:28 2020
    Hi Stas,

    On 2020-11-21 13:54:26, you wrote to me:

    Not to confuse people to much I think the names should be the same
    on both sides. So how about TELEGRAM.FIDONET, unless someone has a
    better idea?

    May be it will be better tu use FIDONET.TELEGRAM tag?

    Does it matter, either way? ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sat Nov 21 09:21:00 2020
    Hello Stas!

    ** On Saturday 21.11.20 - 13:54, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    Hi, Wilfred!

    20 ноя 20 20:53, Wilfred van Velzen -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Not to confuse people to much I think the names should be the same on
    both sides. So how about TELEGRAM.FIDONET, unless someone has a
    better idea?

    May be it will be better tu use FIDONET.TELEGRAM tag?


    Personnally, I think the following fits the "idea" of the
    concept of accessing Fidonet using the Telegram app:

    FIDONET_X_TELEGRAM

    ..where the X represents "-by-" and suggests a two-way
    exchange as well.

    Before that, I was partial to a mirror approach:

    TENODIF.MARGELET

    Another was a mashup:

    TIDONET.FELEGRAM

    FIGHTONET.HELLEGRAM was another one that popped in my head.

    All of the above portray many of the qualities and attitudes
    some people have: reflection, confusion, denial, cooperation.

    :)

    On we go.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.47
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Sat Nov 21 15:27:08 2020
    Hi August,

    On 2020-11-21 09:21:00, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    May be it will be better tu use FIDONET.TELEGRAM tag?

    Personnally, I think the following fits the "idea" of the
    concept of accessing Fidonet using the Telegram app:

    FIDONET_X_TELEGRAM

    ..where the X represents "-by-" and suggests a two-way
    exchange as well.

    Before that, I was partial to a mirror approach:

    TENODIF.MARGELET

    Another was a mashup:

    TIDONET.FELEGRAM

    FIGHTONET.HELLEGRAM was another one that popped in my head.

    ;-)

    I think we should keep it simple and clear...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Wed Nov 25 20:58:42 2020
    Hi, August!

    21 ноя 20 06:27, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Perhaps you could drop the node address since it is already present in
    the official "--From: " line at the top.

    No. @MSGID may not match the valid Fido address.

    Or.. is this a first step in a plan to use the msgid for constructing
    a replyid when a TgM user does an actual R)eply from this app?

    Yes. This is done so that it would be possible for Fido not to break the reply links.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Первым признаком глупости является полное отсутствие стыда. З.Фрейд.
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Nov 28 00:23:32 2020

    *** Ответ на сообщение из _Carbon.Mail (Carbon.Mail).

    Hi, Wilfred!

    21 ноя 20 14:46, Wilfred van Velzen -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    May be it will be better tu use FIDONET.TELEGRAM tag?

    Does it matter, either way? ;)

    This is important for those searching for "fidonet" or "fido". So it will be at the top of the list if we make it open.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Не откладывай пьянку на завтра, а секс на старость.
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