• Nodelist entry for 1:14/7

    From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Jeff Smith on Sat Mar 28 14:39:58 2020
    Hello Jeff or anybody who is in contact with him.

    There is a comma missing between the sysop name field and the phonenumber field: ,Jeff_Smith-Unpublished-,

    I have tried to inform Jeff by netmail, but the messages apparently did not reach him.

    Kees

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Kees van Eeten on Sat Mar 28 12:29:00 2020
    Kees van Eeten wrote to Jeff Smith <=-

    There is a comma missing between the sysop name field and the
    phonenumber field: ,Jeff_Smith-Unpublished-,

    Since Jeff is also the RC, you might want to netmail Nick Andre directly.

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Mar 28 21:24:34 2020
    Hello Kurt!

    28 Mar 20 12:29, you wrote to me:

    There is a comma missing between the sysop name field and the
    phonenumber field: ,Jeff_Smith-Unpublished-,

    Since Jeff is also the RC, you might want to netmail Nick Andre directly. ... Typos Happpen.

    I am informing a nodelist admin of a typo, not policing the nodelist.

    Kees

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  • From Jeff Smith@1:282/1031 to Kees van Eeten on Sun Mar 29 08:43:33 2020

    Hello Kees!

    28 Mar 20 14:39, you wrote to me:
    Hello Jeff or anybody who is in contact with him.

    There is a comma missing between the sysop name field and the
    phonenumber
    field: ,Jeff_Smith-Unpublished-,

    I have tried to inform Jeff by netmail, but the messages apparently
    did not reach him.

    The current entry I have herein my .ctl is:

    ,7,Grem's_Place,Anoka_MN,Jeff_Smith,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XX,ITN,IFT,INA:bbs.gre s-place.net,IBN

    So, I don' know what to tell you.


    Jeff


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Jeff Smith on Sun Mar 29 16:02:32 2020
    Hello Jeff,

    On Sunday March 29 2020 08:43, you wrote to Kees van Eeten:

    The current entry I have herein my .ctl is:

    ,7,Grem's_Place,Anoka_MN,Jeff_Smith,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XX,ITN,IFT,IN A:bbs.grem s-place.net,IBN

    So, I don' know what to tell you.

    Then perhaps you should check with your ZC if it is also in the last region segment he received from you...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Jeff Smith@1:282/1031 to Kurt Weiske on Sun Mar 29 09:26:46 2020

    Hello Kurt!

    28 Mar 20 12:29, you wrote to Kees van Eeten:

    Kees van Eeten wrote to Jeff Smith <=-

    There is a comma missing between the sysop name field and the
    phonenumber field: ,Jeff_Smith-Unpublished-,

    Since Jeff is also the RC, you might want to netmail Nick Andre
    directly.

    I looked in the latest segment that went out to Nick and there was
    no missing comma.


    Jeff


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jeff Smith on Sun Mar 29 10:57:08 2020
    On 29 Mar 20 09:26:46, Jeff Smith said the following to Kurt Weiske:

    I looked in the latest segment that went out to Nick and there was
    no missing comma.

    Correct. As it was received named with .094, it will not process until this upcoming Friday.

    Nick

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  • From Jeff Smith@1:282/1031 to Kees van Eeten on Sun Mar 29 09:51:49 2020

    Hello Kees!

    28 Mar 20 14:39, you wrote to me:

    I have tried to inform Jeff by netmail, but the messages apparently
    did not reach him.

    Hmmm... I (1:282/1031) just sent a nemail to 1:14/7 and it was sent out and received fine.

    Jeff


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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Jeff Smith on Sun Mar 29 20:20:22 2020
    Hello Jeff!

    29 Mar 20 08:43, you wrote to me:

    The current entry I have herein my .ctl is:

    ,7,Grem's_Place,Anoka_MN,Jeff_Smith,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XX,ITN,IFT,INA: bb s .grem s-place.net,IBN

    So, I don' know what to tell you.

    Well, the don't say anything.

    The error was first listed in the Z1 nodelist.017 published
    on Jan 17 2020.

    It is still there in todays nodelist.089

    Your ZC has already reacted, that the file he received has daynbr 094
    The earliest day that makenl would have used that daynumber would have
    been Saturday 28 Mar 2020

    My message in this area was written on Saturday 28 Mar 2020.

    So don't tell me that I see things that are not there.

    Kees

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Jeff Smith on Sun Mar 29 20:23:44 2020
    Hello Jeff!

    29 Mar 20 09:51, you wrote to me:

    28 Mar 20 14:39, you wrote to me:

    I have tried to inform Jeff by netmail, but the messages apparently
    did not reach him.

    Hmmm... I (1:282/1031) just sent a nemail to 1:14/7 and it was sent out and received fine.

    Todays Z1 Nodelist tells me that both nodes are administered by Jeff Smith. Todays Z1 Nodelist does not list a valid entry for 1:14/7

    The netmail I sent, to your RC at 1:14/0, was dated February 7 2020.

    May I suggest, you tell your fairytails somewhere else, I am to old to believe in them.


    Kees

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Kees van Eeten on Sun Mar 29 15:50:00 2020
    Kees van Eeten wrote to Jeff Smith <=-

    I have tried to inform Jeff by netmail, but the messages apparently
    did not reach him.

    Hmmm... I (1:282/1031) just sent a nemail to 1:14/7 and it was sent out and received fine.

    Todays Z1 Nodelist tells me that both nodes are administered by
    Jeff Smith. Todays Z1 Nodelist does not list a valid entry for
    1:14/7

    I'd have to agree with this.

    Here's a snippet from my copy of nodelist.087, which I received
    through normal FDN distribution:

    Region,14,Mid_West_USA,IA_KS_MN_MO_NE_ND_SD,Jeff_Smith,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XX, ITN,INA:ftn.region14.org,IBN ,5,Region_14_IP_Server,Anoka_MN,Jeff_Smith,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XX,ITN,IFT,INA: ftn.region14.org,IBN ,6,The_Twisted_Balloon,Anoka_MN,Jeff_Smith,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XX,ITN,IFT,INA: bbs.twisted-balloon.org,IBN
    ;E ,7,Grem's_Place_BBS,Anoka_MN,Jeff_Smith-Unpublished-,300,CM,XX,ITN,IFT,INA:bbs. grems-place.net,IBN

    There's no comma after the name.

    No idea what that ";E " is all about.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Dan Clough on Sun Mar 29 17:40:51 2020
    On 29 Mar 20 15:50:00, Dan Clough said the following to Kees Van Eeten:

    There's no comma after the name.

    No idea what that ";E " is all about.

    ;E means error when it was processed by my system.

    Nick

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Dan Clough on Sun Mar 29 20:10:27 2020
    Re: Re: Nodelist entry for 1:14/7
    By: Dan Clough to Kees van Eeten on Sun Mar 29 2020 15:50:00


    ;E
    ,7,Grem's_Place_BBS,Anoka_MN,Jeff_Smith-Unpublished-,300,CM,XX,ITN,IFT,INA:bbs. grems-place.net,IBN

    There's no comma after the name.

    that ;E is the broken one ;)


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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Dan Clough on Sun Mar 29 23:28:18 2020
    Hello Dan!

    29 Mar 20 15:50, you wrote to me:

    Here's a snippet from my copy of nodelist.087, which I received
    through normal FDN distribution:

    d-b alloon.org,IBN
    ;E ,7,Grem's_Place_BBS,Anoka_MN,Jeff_Smith-Unpublished-,300,
    CM,XX,ITN,IFT,INA:bbs.grems-place.net,IBN

    No idea what that ";E " is all about.

    Makenl does some checking on the first 7 fields of a nodelist line.
    The flags we introduced later and not included in the makenl checking
    process.

    When makenl finds an error in a line, it disables the line by
    prepending ;E
    Then a second error line is added that declares the err

    Fiels are delimited by comma's
    The first field defines functions as Zone, Region, Host, Hub, Pvt etc.
    For normal nodes this field is empty.

    The fifth field contains the sysop name, it should not contain spaces.
    Because the comma is missing -Unpublished- becomes part of the sysopname.

    The sixth field defines the telephone number, because of the missing delimiter, the baudrate is taken as the telephone numer. There is a numeric value there so it seems to be OK for makenl.

    Then the seventh field is read, which now contains "CM". This is not accepted as a valid baudrate and makenl decides the line is in error.
    A line is inserted ;E -- invalid baudrate -- 'CM'


    Kees

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Kees van Eeten on Mon Mar 30 07:36:00 2020
    Kees van Eeten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Hello Dan!

    29 Mar 20 15:50, you wrote to me:

    Here's a snippet from my copy of nodelist.087, which I received
    through normal FDN distribution:

    d-b alloon.org,IBN
    ;E ,7,Grem's_Place_BBS,Anoka_MN,Jeff_Smith-Unpublished-,300,
    CM,XX,ITN,IFT,INA:bbs.grems-place.net,IBN

    No idea what that ";E " is all about.

    Makenl does some checking on the first 7 fields of a nodelist
    line. The flags we introduced later and not included in the
    makenl checking process.

    When makenl finds an error in a line, it disables the line by
    prepending ;E
    Then a second error line is added that declares the err

    Fiels are delimited by comma's
    The first field defines functions as Zone, Region, Host, Hub, Pvt
    etc. For normal nodes this field is empty.

    The fifth field contains the sysop name, it should not contain
    spaces. Because the comma is missing -Unpublished- becomes part
    of the sysopname.

    The sixth field defines the telephone number, because of the
    missing delimiter, the baudrate is taken as the telephone numer.
    There is a numeric value there so it seems to be OK for makenl.

    Then the seventh field is read, which now contains "CM". This is
    not accepted as a valid baudrate and makenl decides the line is
    in error. A line is inserted ;E -- invalid baudrate -- 'CM'

    Excellent! Makes perfect sense - thank you for that information.



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