BTW, my PC's can't seem to play FLAC files directly (via VLC
player) The playback stops/stalls every few seconds. But if I
convert to AppleLossless, the playback is much better (iTunes).

Apple products are notorious for not supporting anything else, like FLAC, but their own "inventions", such as ALAC. Every Android version above 3.0 support FLAC, so all my smartphones work well, and even Firefox on Windows XP works...

I presently use the VLC app on my Amazon Fire TV stick (where I have 5.1 sound) without any problems.


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BTW, thanks for the tip. :-)



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Hi Björn,

On 2022-01-01 15:27:26, you wrote to me:

On http://eljaco.se/ABBA/ I have all the 133 ABBA songs in my
possession in a loss-less format.

It would be nice if they were grouped on an album basis! ;)

Yeah, I realized that myself. Fixed. :-)

Thanks! ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi August,

On 2022-01-01 08:54:00, you wrote to me:

BTW, my PC's can't seem to play FLAC files directly (via VLC
player) The playback stops/stalls every few seconds. But if I
convert to AppleLossless, the playback is much better (iTunes).

Apparently your hardware isn't fast enough to decode it on the fly? A bit strange, but I don't know what kind of hardware you're using. ;-)
Maybe it's encoded with the maximum compression level, which is too much for your hardware?

Is it one of the files from Bjorn? I could try to re-encode it with a lower flac compression level. If you're interested in a test?

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Wilfred van Velzen!

** On Saturday 01.01.22 - 17:47, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to August Abolins:

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Apparently your hardware isn't fast enough to decode it
on the fly? A bit strange, but I don't know what kind of
hardware you're using. ;-) Maybe it's encoded with the
maximum compression level, which is too much for your
hardware?

FLAC files are choppy with the T60/XP

Intel Core Duo T2400
Code Name Yonah
Package Socket 479 mPGA
Technology 65nm
Specification Genuine Intel CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz
Rated Bus Speed 665.1 MHz
Stock Core Speed 1833 MHz
Stock Bus Speed 166 MHz
Average Temperature 54 øC
L1 Data Cache Size 2 x 32 KBytes
L1 Instructions Cache Size 2 x 32 KBytes
L2 Unified Cache Size 2048 KBytes

And they're also choppy on my Lenovo 3000 G430. That one is at
a remote site, so I can't confirm specific specs for it right
now.

Is it one of the files from Bjorn? I could try to re-
encode it with a lower flac compression level. If you're
interested in a test?

I haven't tried Bj”rn's files yet. I have to dig up my ABBA CDs
first so that I can do proper A-B comparisons.

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Hi August,

On 2022-01-01 12:39:00, you wrote to me:

Apparently your hardware isn't fast enough to decode it
on the fly? A bit strange, but I don't know what kind of
hardware you're using. ;-) Maybe it's encoded with the
maximum compression level, which is too much for your
hardware?

FLAC files are choppy with the T60/XP

Intel Core Duo T2400
Code Name Yonah
Package Socket 479 mPGA
Technology 65nm
Specification Genuine Intel CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz
Rated Bus Speed 665.1 MHz
Stock Core Speed 1833 MHz
Stock Bus Speed 166 MHz
Average Temperature 54 øC
L1 Data Cache Size 2 x 32 KBytes
L1 Instructions Cache Size 2 x 32 KBytes
L2 Unified Cache Size 2048 KBytes

So not a real speed monster even when it was introduced in 2009... ;)

And they're also choppy on my Lenovo 3000 G430. That one is at
a remote site, so I can't confirm specific specs for it right
now.

I think it's about the same generation as the T60, but it came with different processors. But apparently you don't have a speedy one...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Apparently your hardware isn't fast enough to decode it on the fly?

Actually it may be one of the POFs I was talking about? I'm still at IIS 5 and I've got reports that sometimes downloading with http is really slow, considering that I sit on a 100/100M fiber.

And regarding another comment, my FLAC files should be totally uncompressed. That was the whole idea behind going from MP3 to FLAC...


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Hello Bj”rn Felten!

** On Saturday 01.01.22 - 19:08, Bj”rn Felten wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

And regarding another comment, my FLAC files should be totally uncompressed. That was the whole idea behind going from MP3 to FLAC...

What Kbps rate were your MP3 files?

For me, I can discern a very noticable difference between
192kbps and CD. 320kbps comes close to indestinquishable, but
the bass is still a bit boomier and the highs have an obvious
"edgyness" that is not pleasant for long passages. All that is
for home-based listening with open-air speakers. 320kbps would
be the minimum I would prefer on the car stereo for music.

I've never really bothered with VBR (variable bit rate)
versions.

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Hi Bj”rn,

On 2022-01-01 19:08:12, you wrote to me:

Apparently your hardware isn't fast enough to decode it on the fly?

Actually it may be one of the POFs I was talking about? I'm still at IIS
5 and I've got reports that sometimes downloading with http is really slow,
considering that I sit on a 100/100M fiber.

I think August was talking about playing flac files in general, so your bandwidth is not the issue...

And regarding another comment, my FLAC files should be totally uncompressed. That was the whole idea behind going from MP3 to FLAC...

The compression level of flac files doesn't influence the audio quality! Flac is a lossless compression format, so when you decode it, you get the same bytes back that went into them. But if you don't want compression for some reason, you would be better of using wav files...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi August,

On 2022-01-01 13:52:00, you wrote to me:

I only mentioned it because it too operates XP, and seems perfectly
fine with AppleLossless versions.

I don't know about AppleLossLess, and how it compares to Flac.

For Bj”rn's test, I'll be generating CDs from the FLAC files to
test on my hi-fi system.

I had a family friend do a similar test on some of the FLAC vs AppleLossess files that I produced, against the original CD
versions of a few tunes. The fellow has a fine hifi system.
He found no discernable differences.

There shouldn't be any difference. They all produce the same bytes that go into your DA converter for playback.

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Bj”rn Felten!

** On Saturday 01.01.22 - 19:08, Bj”rn Felten wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Actually it may be one of the POFs I was talking about?
I'm still at IIS 5 and I've got reports that sometimes
downloading with http is really slow, considering that
I sit on a 100/100M fiber.

I was referring to playing the files AFTER they are downloaded.
But even if I could play/stream your files directly, my DSL
speed at about 650-800Kbps wouldn't be good enough.

And regarding another comment, my FLAC files should be
totally uncompressed. That was the whole idea behind
going from MP3 to FLAC...

For totally uncompressed, WAV ought to do it. But FLAC offers
a modicum of space/storage efficiency.
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I have some ABBA material on CD too. I could compare some of
those and your tunes with my modest system.

I haven't bought a CD in ... pfftttt ... 15 years. I only got vinyl.

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Hello Ward!

** On Sunday 02.01.22 - 15:40, you wrote to me:

I have some ABBA material on CD too. I could compare
some of those and your tunes with my modest system.

I haven't bought a CD in ... pfftttt ... 15 years. I only
got vinyl.

I have a modest collection. Only about 800-1100 LPs. Maybe
about 400-500 45's. I haven't put them to much use since the
quality of sound is noticeably not as good as I remembered some
of them to be. The speakers are fine, and professionally
rebuilt. Maybe my ear is conditioned to the more consistent
sound from a CD. However, I learned that a new needle/
cartridge pair is probably long overdue. It is recommended that
the needle be replaced every few hundred hours of play.

What make/model of record player do you have?

I've gone through several, but ultimately received a fine
Pioneer PL-A35. I love the steampunk look of the balancing/
pressure mechanism with the wire and weight.

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What make/model of record player do you have?

I'm on the road, but it's a Lenco. I think Swiss made

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