I was wondering how a Front End/Mailer handles Netmail with the 'direct' flag in this day in age. What if I send a netmail to a point off of a BBS that' in the nodelist, does the mailer call the BBS, or does it just hold it?

Thanks



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Hello Chuckster,

I was wondering how a Front End/Mailer handles Netmail with the
'direct' flag in this day in age. What if I send a netmail to a point
off of a BBS that' in the nodelist, does the mailer call the BBS, or
does it just hold it?

That is the senders choice when the message is saved. You can crash it directly to the node, hold it for pickup, or route it to the destination.

In the case of a point you have choices. You can hold it for the point to pick up or you can route/direct it to the boss node.

If the point has a mailer listening and you know the mailer info you can drop it off there directly.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Chuckster Stephenson wrote to All <=-

I was wondering how a Front End/Mailer handles Netmail with the
'direct' flag in this day in age. What if I send a netmail to a point
off of a BBS that' in the nodelist, does the mailer call the BBS, or
does it just hold it?

If memory serves, Direct means "don't route it and send it the next time you normally connect to the destination", and Crash means to send it now.

I'm pretty sure most mailers ignore points and host-route the mail to
the boss node.

Can anyone confirm?


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I was wondering how a Front End/Mailer handles Netmail with the
'direct' flag in this day in age. What if I send a netmail to a point
off of a BBS that' in the nodelist, does the mailer call the BBS, or
does it just hold it?

If memory serves, Direct means "don't route it and send it the next time you normally connect to the destination", and Crash means to send it
now.

Yes, that's how my setup works although today everything is crashed for
the most part.

I'm pretty sure most mailers ignore points and host-route the mail to
the boss node.

I used MBSE at one time and it does host routing by default.

In my current setup stuff is sent to nodes that I trust to move stuff in
the right direction. I have a secure session in all those cases.

I have a point setup here (not mine) and stuff that arrives for that
point is crashed to that point.

I don't know if it is perfect and I'll always make changes when needed
but I have had good results with my setup.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On Nov 10th 4:31 pm Kurt Weiske said...

Chuckster Stephenson wrote to All <=-

I'm pretty sure most mailers ignore points and host-route the mail to the boss node.

Can anyone confirm?

That's what I figured they did, follow the 'old' mailer rules. Wasn't sure though



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I would like to test my netmail setup...

Can someone send me a routed netmail to see if I get it!!!


Thanx

IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
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Netmail is working... Thanx everyone

IB Joe
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Hello IB Joe!

On 03 Mar 2022, IB Joe said the following...

I would like to test my netmail setup...
Can someone send me a routed netmail to see if I get it!!!

Will do!

Best regards
Bj”rn

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Hello IB,

03 Mar 22 15:26, you wrote to All:

I would like to test my netmail setup...

Can someone send me a routed netmail to see if I get it!!!

sent!

Thanx

IB Joe
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Regards,
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On 04 Mar 2022, Bj”rn Wiberg said the following...

Hello IB Joe!

On 03 Mar 2022, IB Joe said the following...

I would like to test my netmail setup...
Can someone send me a routed netmail to see if I get it!!!

Will do!

Best regards
Bj”rn

got it and thank you

IB Joe
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On 04 Mar 2022, Daniel Path said the following...

sent!

Thanx

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MSGID: 1:19/40 28CD0445
PID: CyberBBS v1.0.10
Sorry guys - my domain didnt renew for some reason so I am waiting on that. Change the dns to whq.cyberbbs.co
It should work with that!

Al, I will add you to my polls.

-Nugax (cbbs)


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Hi Chad,

On 2023-03-01 13:46:13, you wrote to ALL:

Sorry guys - my domain didnt renew for some reason so I am waiting on that. Change the dns to whq.cyberbbs.co It should work with that!

I don't think it does:

# telnet whq.cyberbbs.co binkp
Trying 69.30.232.251...
telnet: connect to address 69.30.232.251: Connection refused

Your binkp port seems to be closed...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Chad,

On Wednesday March 01 2023 13:46, you wrote to ALL:

Sorry guys - my domain didnt renew for some reason so I am waiting on that. Change the dns to whq.cyberbbs.co It should work with that!

21:39 [3084] creating a poll for 1:19/40@fidonet (`d' flavour)
21:39 [3084] clientmgr started
+ 21:39 [3980] call to 1:19/40@fidonet
21:39 [3980] trying whq.cyberbbs.co [69.30.232.251]...
? 21:39 [3980] connection to 1:19/40@fidonet failed: {W32 API error
10061} Connection refused
21:39 [3084] the queue is empty, quitting...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Chad,

Wednesday March 01 2023 21:40, I wrote to you:

21:39 [3084] creating a poll for 1:19/40@fidonet (`d' flavour)
21:39 [3084] clientmgr started
+ 21:39 [3980] call to 1:19/40@fidonet
21:39 [3980] trying whq.cyberbbs.co [69.30.232.251]...
? 21:39 [3980] connection to 1:19/40@fidonet failed: {W32 API error
10061} Connection refused
21:39 [3084] the queue is empty, quitting...

It is OK now when calling whq.cyberbbs.co:

+ 17:53 [1860] call to 1:19/40@fidonet
17:53 [1860] trying whq.cyberbbs.co [69.30.232.251]...
17:53 [1860] connected
+ 17:53 [1860] outgoing session with whq.cyberbbs.co:24554 [69.30.232.251]
- 17:53 [1860] OPT CRAM-MD5-9615f3c8f91fee22d9756b5f6e4d20ee
+ 17:53 [1860] Remote requests MD mode
- 17:53 [1860] SYS CyberBBS WHQ
- 17:53 [1860] ZYZ Chad Adams
- 17:53 [1860] LOC Hideaway, TX
- 17:53 [1860] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
- 17:53 [1860] TIME Thu, 2 Mar 2023 10:53:38 -0600
- 17:53 [1860] VER binkd/1.1a-115/Linux binkp/1.1
+ 17:53 [1860] addr: 1:19/40@fidonet
+ 17:53 [1860] addr: 21:1/107@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
+ 17:53 [1860] addr: 700:100/200@spooknet (n/a or busy)
+ 17:53 [1860] addr: 10:102/12@araknet (n/a or busy)
- 17:53 [1860] OPT EXTCMD
+ 17:53 [1860] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 17:53 [1860] sending \FIDO\OUTBOUND.001\400d39b0.pkt as 400d39b0.pkt (650)
+ 17:53 [1860] sent: \FIDO\OUTBOUND.001\400d39b0.pkt (650, 650.00 CPS, 1:19/40@fidonet)
+ 17:53 [1860] done (to 1:19/40@fidonet, OK, S/R: 1/0 (650/0 bytes))
17:53 [1860] session closed, quitting...

But... the nodelist still shows the wrong host name. You have to get that updated.


Cheers, Michiel

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I got your Netmail and replied...

Nick

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