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    From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Martin Foster on Thu Jul 23 18:45:32 2020
    Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins <=-

    MvdV> ^ ^ ^
    MvdV> When posting messages without a CHRS kludge, one can not expect
    MvdV> non-ASCII characters to be correctly displayed on the screens of the MvdV> receivers.

    Yep, the original looked just fine here, as does your reply :)

    That is because certain people think that Fidonet, based on 40 year old technology, is going to suddenly and magically be able to switch over to all
    of these other codepages on its own.

    My system here, using GoldEd, can handle 15 different codepages and translate them properly into CP437.

    So this is much ado about nothing and can be ignored.

    Like you, I saw August's reply just fine though I thought dissected Tribbles would be more like . . . :D

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Sean Dennis on Thu Jul 23 19:53:00 2020
    Hello Sean!

    ** On Thursday 23.07.20 - 18:45, Sean Dennis wrote to Martin Foster:

    Yep, the original looked just fine here, as does your reply :)

    That is because certain people think that Fidonet, based on 40 year
    old technology, is going to suddenly and magically be able to switch
    over to all of these other codepages on its own.

    Programs like OpenXP do a fine job implementing new features over that
    time. There is no reason *not* to try and include other things such as
    IPv6 support (which it does).


    My system here, using GoldEd, can handle 15 different codepages and translate them properly into CP437.

    Does the translation happen automagically for incoming messages? Does
    GoldEd guess the correct codepage when there is no accompanying clue with which codepage the original characters in a message were created with?

    And, I assume that GoldEd generates a chars kludge based on the chars that you want people to see. If so, then yes.. much ado about nothing.

    Personally, I would like to see msgid/replyid in your messages. That would "group" the messages here visually and relationally in the messagebase.


    So this is much ado about nothing and can be ignored.

    But it can be very *nice* to have our readers render the matching codepage and encodings. We don't have to be stuck back 40 years.

    The more capabilities our readers can use and agree using between
    ourselves, then this messaging hobby can be only get better.


    Like you, I saw August's reply just fine though I thought dissected Tribbles would be more like . . . :D

    Those are probably baby tribbles, or tribble droppings.

    Cheers!
    ../|ug

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Sean Dennis on Fri Jul 24 13:01:12 2020
    Hello Sean,

    On Thursday July 23 2020 18:45, you wrote to Martin Foster:

    Your software truncates the subject line to 24 characters. :(

    My system here, using GoldEd, can handle 15 different codepages and translate them properly into CP437.

    Impossible. CP 437 like all DOS codepages has only room for 128 non ASCII characters. Those 15 codepages of yours thogether have much more than 128 nonASCII characters. 128 non ASCI characters not being enough for everybody is the whole reason for having more than one codepage. There is no way that you can match all the characters from those 15 code pages into the 128 non ASCII characters of CP437.

    For example. There are glyphs for ó (3/4) and ¸ (copyright sign) in CP850 and CP1252. You can not properly translate that into CP437 because there are no glyphs for those characters in CP437. You can of course translate them into "3/4" and "(c)", but that is an approximation. For other, more exotic characters like ô (Pilcrow sign) this is more difficult. And than I won't even mention CP866 (Cyrillic) or CP737 (Greek).

    So this is much ado about nothing and can be ignored.

    For those that live in the CP437 bubble....


    Cheers, Michiel

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