Hello Richard!

** On Tuesday 09.06.20 - 18:09, Richard Menedetter wrote to August Abolins:

Why don't you give us YOUR example of what FTS-0009's "^AMSGID:

Take a look at your own for an example:
@MSGID: 2:221/1.58@fidonet e53bb3cb

origadr is a 3d/4d/5d Fidonet address.

Sweet. That's what I thought. But I think Rob Swindell's approach introduces better uniqueness, which is the whole point of the matter.

If 3d/4d/5d was the expectation, then the fts doc should have stated
exactly that.


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Hi August!

09 Jun 2020 16:04, from August Abolins -> Richard Menedetter:

Why don't you give us YOUR example of what FTS-0009's "^AMSGID:

Take a look at your own for an example:
@MSGID: 2:221/1.58@fidonet e53bb3cb
origadr is a 3d/4d/5d Fidonet address.

Sweet. That's what I thought. But I think Rob Swindell's approach introduces better uniqueness, which is the whole point of the matter.

I understand why he did it.
But it still is not standards conform.
In that special case it seems that the standard nonconformance does not cause big issues except for soupgate.
And that there are some good reasons for the nonconformance ... but it definitely is not standards conform.

If 3d/4d/5d was the expectation, then the fts doc should have stated exactly that.

They stated originating addr.
(Address does not include Name in Fido)
OK:
2:2/2
2:2/2.2
2:2/2.2@fidonet

NOK:
name@2:2/2
name@2:2/2@fidonet

CU, Ricsi

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On 10/06/2020 6:15 a.m., Richard Menedetter : August Abolins wrote:

I understand why he did it. But it still is not standards
conform. [...] but it definitely is not standards conform.

If 3d/4d/5d was the expectation, then the fts doc should have
stated exactly that.

They stated originating addr. (Address does not include Name in
Fido) OK: 2:2/2 2:2/2.2 2:2/2.2@fidonet

NOK: name@2:2/2 name@2:2/2@fidonet

GREAT. More confusion for the masses. In internet usage, an address is a complete name@whatever.tld. But in fidonet it's just the numbers.

This whole argument could have been laid to rest by saying that (and perhaps point to a specific definition ftsc doc that states it) at the the outset.


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Hello August,

On Wednesday June 10 2020 20:22, you wrote to Richard Menedetter:

They stated originating addr. (Address does not include Name in
Fido) OK: 2:2/2 2:2/2.2 2:2/2.2@fidonet

NOK: name@2:2/2 name@2:2/2@fidonet

GREAT. More confusion for the masses. In internet usage, an address is
a complete name@whatever.tld. But in fidonet it's just the numbers.

This whole argument could have been laid to rest by saying that

I DID tell you that, but you wouldn't hear it. :(


Cheers, Michiel

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