Hi everyone - does anyone know if the RC for 1:114(TJ Barlow) is still around by chance?

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On 08 Oct 21 14:59:30, Andy Gorman said the following to All:

Hi everyone - does anyone know if the RC for 1:114(TJ Barlow) is still arou by chance?

TJ answers my emails... slowly.

Nick
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Hi Andy,

On 2021-10-08 14:59:30, you wrote to All:

Hi everyone - does anyone know if the RC for 1:114(TJ Barlow) is still around by chance?

Have you tried all his aka's?

1 Region,15,Mountain_States,AZ_CO_NM_UT_WY,Tj_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XX,IBN,ITN,INA:region15.net,IBN:24555
2 ,1,Region15_Echomail_Coordinator,Colorado_Springs_CO,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XX,IBN,ITN,INA:region15.net,IBN:24555
3 ,2,Region_15_HQ_Backup,Colorado_Springs_CO,Tj_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,ICM,IBN,IFT,IFC,ITN:60177,INA:bk.region15.net
4 ,3,Region_15_News_Hub,Colorado_Springs_CO,Tj_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,ICM,IBN,IFT,IFC,ITN:60177,INA:region15news.net
5 Host,114,NC_Net_114_Arizona,Colorado_Springs_Co,Tj_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XX,INA:cscnet1.net,IBN,IFT,ITN:60177
6 Host,128,Pikes_Peak_Net_NC,Colorado_Springs_CO,Terry_Barlow,1-719-550-9599,9600,CM,XA,XX,H16,V32b,V42b,V34,V32t,X2C,INA:cscnet1.net,IBN
7 ,1,Pikes_Peak_Net_NEC,Colorado_Springs_CO,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,INA:cscnet1.net,IBN
8 ,187,Colorado_Springs_Central_Net,Colorado_Springs_CO,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,INA:cscnet1.net,IBN
9 ,253,StarBase_Alpha,Colorado_Springs_CO,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,INA:barlows1.net,IBN
10 Down,254,Old_School_Colorado_Springs_Central_Net,Colorado_Springs_CO,Terry_Barlow,1-719-550-9599,9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,INA:oldschool.cscnet1.net,IBN
11 Host,305,Southern_New_Mexico,Las_Cruces_NM,Tj_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,INA:region15.net,IBN
12 Host,307,Pueblo_CO_NC,Pueblo_CO,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,XX,H16,V32b,V42b,V34,V32t,X2C,INA:region15.net,IBN
13 ,1,Region_15_HQ,Colorado_Springs_CO,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,INA:region15.net,IBN
14 Host,310,Cheyenne_WY,Cheyenne_WY,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,XX,H16,V32b,V42b,V34,V32t,X2C,INA:region15.net,IBN
15 ,1,Region_15_HQ,Colorado_Springs_CO,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,INA:region15.net,IBN
16 Host,311,NC_Net_311,Magna_UT,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XX,INA:cscnet1.net,IBN,ITN
17 ,1,Colorado_Springs_Central_Net,Colorado_Springs_CO,Tj_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,INA:cscnet1.net,IBN
18 Host,312,NC_Net_312,Provo_UT,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,INA:cscnet1.net,IBN
19 ,1,Colorado_Springs_Central_Net,Colorado_Springs_CO,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,INA:cscnet1.net,IBN
20 Host,317,Northern_New_Mexico,Albuquerque_NM,Tj_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,INA:region15.net,IBN
21 ,1,Colorado_Springs_Central_Net,Colorado_Springs_CO,Tj_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,INA:cscnet1.net,IBN
22 Host,3005,Internet_Only_Nodes,Colorado_Springs_CO,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,XX,INA:region15.net,IBN
23 ,1,StarBase_Discovery,Colorado_Springs_CO,Terry_Barlow,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,INA:sb-discovery.com,IBN

Maybe the one you tried isn't monitored by him? Or "maybe" it's mostly rubish that is in the nodelist? :-/

Bye, Wilfred.
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Maybe the one you tried isn't monitored by him? Or "maybe" it's mostly rubish that is in the nodelist? :-/

WOW! That's a lot of nodelist stuffing. Maybe someone responsible for the Z1 segment needs to wake up...


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On 09 Oct 21 14:42:58, Bj*Rn Felten said the following to Wilfred Van Velzen:

Maybe the one you tried isn't monitored by him? Or "maybe" it's mostl rubish that is in the nodelist? :-/

WOW! That's a lot of nodelist stuffing. Maybe someone responsible for th Z1 segment needs to wake up...

Maybe some in Z2 need a little less "relish" on their Nothing Burger.

Nick

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Hi Bj”rn,

On 2021-10-09 14:42:58, you wrote to me:

Maybe the one you tried isn't monitored by him? Or "maybe" it's
mostly rubish that is in the nodelist? :-/

WOW! That's a lot of nodelist stuffing. Maybe someone responsible for the Z1 segment needs to wake up...

They seem to have a none interference policy regarding "lower" segments. They accept anything the "lower" *C sends in, even if has the most obvious mistakes, and nonsense...

And regarding the segment of this RC, if you check all his AKA's you will find most will either not be connectable, or respond with the wrong AKA. This has been the case for many years.
But then again, if you want to read Z1C or even Z1REGCON, his bbs's (that are connectable) are a good place to do that. ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.
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They seem to have a none interference policy regarding "lower" segments.

Maybe it's an attempt to mimic the FidoWeb? After all, it's originally from Z2, and we cannot have that, can we? 8-)

They accept anything the "lower" *C sends in, even if has the most obvious mistakes, and nonsense...

Too little Kees!

But then again, if you want to read Z1C or even Z1REGCON, his bbs's
(that are connectable) are a good place to do that. ;-)

Considering how much action, like the above mentioned, that takes place there, I doubt it would be of any interest... ;-)




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On 09 Oct 21 18:44:20, Wilfred Van Velzen said the following to Bj*Rn Felten:

They seem to have a none interference policy regarding "lower" segments. Th accept anything the "lower" *C sends in, even if has the most obvious mistakes, and nonsense...

Thats an interesting observation coming from a Dutch wuss who kissed my ass
to have a feed here... which I happily provided no-questions-asked. I'm going to assume the Z2 segment is therefore perfect and every stinken' node can be reached at all times? Or do you have the Happy Belgian modifying segments?

Imagine the suspenders flapping in the wind if I did that... you would have react more excited than you do when a new node flies that stupid Ping flag.

A Nothing Burger goes down good with a nice tall refreshing glass of STFU.

Nick
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Björn Felten wrote to Wilfred van Velzen <=-

Maybe the one you tried isn't monitored by him? Or "maybe" it's mostly rubish that is in the nodelist? :-/

WOW! That's a lot of nodelist stuffing. Maybe someone responsible
for the Z1 segment needs to wake up...

It's not stuffing, it's called attrition. I had a handful of nets where I
was the RC and NC, as a node or two wanted to hold onto their node numbers when the NC left. There's a tightrope you walk; make too many changes and sysops decide it's easier to take down nodes running on auto-pilot than make major changes.

Over the years I've closed down several nets and have my region with one historical net in use with an active BBS author, nets with sysops who want
to be their own NC, and an IP-only net that's geography independent. I did
it one BBS at a time, and handled it with kid gloves. If I'd set a date and closed down all of the NC-less nets at once I bet I'd have lost a good
portion of my nodes.

Or, do you really think that a coordinator in this day and age is trying to wear more hats?




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Or, do you really think that a coordinator in this day and age is trying to
wear more hats?

Nah! Only kids worry about Mickey Mouse hats.



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Hi Kurt,

On 2021-10-09 07:08:00, you wrote to Björn Felten:

Maybe the one you tried isn't monitored by him? Or "maybe" it's
mostly rubish that is in the nodelist? :-/

WOW! That's a lot of nodelist stuffing. Maybe someone responsible
for the Z1 segment needs to wake up...

It's not stuffing, it's called attrition.

In the case of the RC15, it's stuffing for a large part. For instance all the ,1, nodes serve no purpose, and could just be removed.

I had a handful of nets where I was the RC and NC, as a node or two
wanted to hold onto their node numbers when the NC left. There's a tightrope you walk; make too many changes and sysops decide it's
easier to take down nodes running on auto-pilot than make major
changes.

What value has it to keep the auto-pilot nodes in a net? They probably will just disappear without notice in the future. And I hope there will be somebody arround to notice this and remove them from the nodelist (after a little 'Down' period).

Over the years I've closed down several nets and have my region with
one historical net in use with an active BBS author, nets with sysops
who want to be their own NC, and an IP-only net that's geography independent. I did it one BBS at a time, and handled it with kid
gloves. If I'd set a date and closed down all of the NC-less nets at
once I bet I'd have lost a good portion of my nodes.

Well, good for you, you did a nice job!

Now lets look at the nodelist entries by the RC15. I did a little scripting and polled them all. The results were worse than I expected:

1:15/0 region15.net:24555 CONNECT/BND
1:15/1 region15.net:24555 CONNECT/BND
1:15/2 bk.region15.net Connection timed out
1:15/3 region15news.net Connection timed out
1:114/0 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:128/0 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:128/1 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:128/187 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:128/253 barlows1.net Connection timed out
1:128/254 oldschool.cscnet1.net Remote has no needed AKA (Despite being marked as Down)
1:305/0 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:307/0 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:307/1 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:310/0 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:310/1 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:311/0 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:311/1 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:312/0 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:312/1 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:317/0 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:317/1 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:3005/0 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:3005/1 sb-discovery.com Connection timed out

So none of the Hosts exist! The only Net in this region that has someone else listed as Host, only has a phonenumber to connect to (I can't test that). My conclusion, this Region only exists in the fantasy of mister Barlow, and could be safely removed. Mister Barlow can then apply for a nodenumber somewhere else.

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Kurt,

On 2021-10-13 09:53:11, I wrote to you:

Now lets look at the nodelist entries by the RC15. I did a little scripting and polled them all. The results were worse than I
expected:

1:15/0 region15.net:24555 CONNECT/BND
1:15/1 region15.net:24555 CONNECT/BND
1:15/2 bk.region15.net Connection timed out
1:15/3 region15news.net Connection timed out
1:114/0 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:128/0 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:128/1 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host 1:128/187 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host 1:128/253 barlows1.net Connection timed out
1:128/254 oldschool.cscnet1.net Remote has no needed AKA (Despite being marked as Down)
1:305/0 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:307/0 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:307/1 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:310/0 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:310/1 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:311/0 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:311/1 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:312/0 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:312/1 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host
1:317/0 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:317/1 cscnet1.net connection closed by foreign host 1:3005/0 region15.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:3005/1 sb-discovery.com Connection timed out

Updated results after a while:
(Maybe Mystic/binkp has a problem handling multiple connects at the same time? Or it's some kind of firewall issue)

1:114/0 cscnet1.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:128/0 cscnet1.net CONNECT/BND
1:128/1 cscnet1.net CONNECT/BND
1:128/187 cscnet1.net CONNECT/BND
1:311/0 cscnet1.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:311/1 cscnet1.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:312/0 cscnet1.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:312/1 cscnet1.net Remote has no needed AKA
1:317/1 cscnet1.net Remote has no needed AKA

So there actually exists 1 (of 9) Hosts in the Region... :-/

Bye, Wilfred.

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