On 2019 Feb 14 11:11:02, you wrote to me:
what do you mean by "names"?? example, please... maybe the historic
echolists or .NA files??
Sorry I meant descriptions.
ahhh... short titles...
I have a lot of echo's in my config that just have the description the same as the echo tag ie 4DOS_FMY. It's not very descriptive when a
user lists the fido echo list. I'd prefer to have the proper
description "4dos Discussions" to display instead of 4DOS_FMY.
not sure where you got your files from that i guess you imported into your configs... yeah, some don't have much more than the echotag in them... it used to be almost an automated process to add new areas and pull the short titles in from the backbone.na or echolist files but tings changed and folks apparently forgot about those convieniences...
Another example is ARROWBRIDGE where the description is "ARROWBRIDGE
Door Game by Mark Sinclair"
yeah... those short titles are fine unti the BBS doesn't have the space to store the full title and you get truncated ones all with the same first 30 or so characters... another problem is when the echo's title is changed but the BBS doesn't update to the new title... an example is the BAMA echo which definitely changed its short title to make it clearer what it was about... plus when echotags change hands from one moderator to another, the new mod may want to change the title as well as the description... i've done that myself a few times back in the day :)
So some of the ones i'm missing descriptions include;
R_CATHOLIC
RCC-PUBLIC
REC
REGCONEUR
...
i don't have those in any of my feeds... i would guess that the following short titles are fairly accurate, though...
R_CATHOLIC Roman Catholic Discussions
RCC-PUBLIC Public access to Regional Coordinator Council
REC Regional Echo Coordinators
the REC one may supposed to be private and only RCs/RECs having access but i don't know... there are some that are restricted access but get leaked because operators don't excercise due diligence in researching the areas before turning them on and allowing others full access feeds... hell, some operators just turn on all areas which is not really a good idea anyway... especially since there's a lot of dead areas still in configs these days...
I've been scouring the internet for echolists but was hoping someone
may have a master list or a better place to find some.
the echolist is a pretty good place to start... the descriptions in the backbone.na and backbone.not files are/were taken from there but the echolist is only good for echos with moderators who decide to list their echo in the echolist... there's a lot that don't for one reason or another... then there's that the whole of europe doesn't really even know what a BBS is any more since they never had free dialup capabilities like north america did... so they didn't dial into a BBS and sit there playing games or reading messages at 10 cents a minute or whatever their rate was... they pushed points as the main access method which is also why they don't hardly know anything about QWK/BW offline mail stuffs, either...
I found http://www.echolist.net/download.html which took care of about
20 but i'm still way short.
why turn everything on? why not just the areas you and your users are interested in?
in any case, you can try the lists i have and see if they help you fill in the holes... on my old system, i actually had them all extracted from their archives so i could grep through them looking for echos and things like their last update and such...
start here for historic echolists:
ftp://sestar.synchro.net/file.dist.net/ECHOLIST/00index.html
i've got some locally managed NA files, too, but i don't have them available for download yet since moving to a new setup... they are basically the backbone.na and backbone.not files but with restricted areas moved to other NA files... this makes it easier to separate them on a BBS when they are imported into message area groups where the group access can be more easily restricted... this is where a lot of leaks come from when operators just import the areas and don't set the restrictions on them... or maybe they do but they update their template area and copy it over all the other areas to update them but they forget to go back and set the restricted areas' restrictions again...
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