• HPT (Win7) Netmail Processing

    From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to All on Mon Dec 2 18:34:08 2019
    Hi All,

    I'm just set up HPT and HTick on my Windows 7 system, which is running as a
    hub for another network. Echomail is flowing quickly! I'm loving it!

    The only issue that I'm having, is incoming netmail messages are giving me
    the error message of:
    Exception 0xc0000005 (Access violation) at address 0x002a9a1e

    It will then leave the .tos file in my inbound.

    The settings are set up roughly the same way that my Linux system is running, so those should be correct.

    I'm just not sure where I should be looking to try to figure this one out.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance


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  • From Frank Linhares@1:229/101 to Dan Richter on Mon Dec 2 21:49:30 2019
    I'm just not sure where I should be looking to try to figure this one
    out. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    I know what is causing your issue. You are running Windows, that's what it is.

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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to Frank Linhares on Mon Dec 2 20:14:16 2019
    On 02 Dec 2019, Frank Linhares said the following...

    I'm just not sure where I should be looking to try to figure this
    one
    out. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    I know what is causing your issue. You are running Windows, that's what
    it is.

    That was my first thought as well. :) It may be changing in the not too
    distant future, but I'd like to get it running right for now.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Dan Richter on Tue Dec 3 13:42:40 2019
    Hello Dan,

    If my subject line looks strange, GoldED does that for some reason with subject
    lines that begin with "Re:". I have not been drinking.. ;)

    That was my first thought as well. :) It may be changing in the not
    too distant future, but I'd like to get it running right for now.

    If you rename those .tos files back to .pkt do you get the same results?

    One thing to try is grab the latest from the gitbub page or..

    http://download.huskyproject.org

    I'm not sure of the version you are running but something to try.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to Alan Ianson on Tue Dec 3 17:57:48 2019
    On 03 Dec 2019, Alan Ianson said the following...

    If my subject line looks strange, GoldED does that for some reason with subject lines that begin with "Re:". I have not been drinking.. ;)

    Sure... That's what they all say... ;)

    If you rename those .tos files back to .pkt do you get the same results?

    Yes, I get the same results. I still have them in the inbound directory, and will periodically try renaming and tossing them. Each time, I get the (Access violation) crash.

    One thing to try is grab the latest from the gitbub page or..

    http://download.huskyproject.org

    I'm not sure of the version you are running but something to try.

    I guess I should have stated that in the original post... It's hpt/w32-mvc 1.9.0-cur 2019-01-08. I'll grab the current one from November, and see what happens.


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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to Alan Ianson on Tue Dec 3 18:04:16 2019
    On 03 Dec 2019, Alan Ianson said the following...

    One thing to try is grab the latest from the gitbub page or..

    http://download.huskyproject.org

    I'm not sure of the version you are running but something to try.

    Ok, I just updated to: hpt/w32-mvcdll 1.9.0-cur 2019-11-24, and I'm still getting the error... :(

    Great idea though! :)


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Dan Richter on Tue Dec 3 17:20:36 2019
    Hello Dan,

    On 03 Dec 2019, Alan Ianson said the following...

    One thing to try is grab the latest from the gitbub page or..

    http://download.huskyproject.org

    I'm not sure of the version you are running but something to try.

    Ok, I just updated to: hpt/w32-mvcdll 1.9.0-cur 2019-11-24, and I'm
    still getting the error... :(

    Bummer that. I have never used a windows version of hpt and have never seen anything like that in the linux version I run here. I also just updated to 2019-11-24 a week or so ago.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Alan Ianson on Wed Dec 4 09:39:17 2019
    What is happening there ^^^ (in the Subject line)?


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Oli on Wed Dec 4 00:48:52 2019
    Hello Oli,

    What is happening there ^^^ (in the Subject line)?

    That happens when I'm using golded and I reply to a message that has a subject line that starts with "Re:".

    I'm not sure why that is, it's been that way for a number of years.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Alan Ianson on Wed Dec 4 11:03:00 2019
    Hi Alan!

    04 Dec 2019 00:48, from Alan Ianson -> Oli:

    What is happening there ^^^ (in the Subject line)?
    That happens when I'm using golded and I reply to a message that has a subject line that starts with "Re:".

    I'm not sure why that is, it's been that way for a number of years.

    EDITREPLYRE <yes/no/numeric> (no)

    If enabled, GoldED inserts the "Re:" string in front of the
    subject when you reply to a message. If not enabled, GoldED will
    strip any leading "Re:" when you reply to a msg.

    The "Re:" string in subjects is an obsolete practice, and today it
    only slows down modern replylinking software. Do yourself and
    others a favor and let GoldED strip the Re: in your replies.

    The "numeric" option makes GoldED use numeric Re:'s, of the form
    "Re^n:".

    This keyword can be used globally and in Random System groups.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Alan Ianson on Wed Dec 4 11:47:53 2019

    What is happening there ^^^ (in the Subject line)?

    That happens when I'm using golded and I reply to a message that has a subject line that starts with "Re:".

    I'm not sure why that is, it's been that way for a number of years.

    Funny, I don't see an "Re:" in the message you replied to and my Golded just strips the "Re:".

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Oli on Wed Dec 4 13:55:20 2019
    Hi Oli!

    04 Dec 2019 11:47, from Oli -> Alan Ianson:

    Funny, I don't see an "Re:" in the message you replied to and my
    Golded just strips the "Re:".

    See the EDITREPLYRE keyword.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to Dan Richter on Wed Dec 4 17:57:42 2019
    Hello Dan,

    Monday December 02 2019, Dan Richter wrote to All:

    I'm just set up HPT and HTick on my Windows 7 system, which is running
    as a hub for another network. Echomail is flowing quickly! I'm loving
    it!

    The only issue that I'm having, is incoming netmail messages are
    giving me the error message of: Exception 0xc0000005 (Access
    violation) at address 0x002a9a1e

    I may try to find the bug if you send me your full hpt configuration without passwords and one of those pkts causing the exception (in one archive).

    Michael

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Richard Menedetter on Wed Dec 4 09:45:34 2019
    Hello Richard,

    What is happening there ^^^ (in the Subject line)?
    That happens when I'm using golded and I reply to a message that
    has a subject line that starts with "Re:".

    I'm not sure why that is, it's been that way for a number of
    years.

    EDITREPLYRE <yes/no/numeric> (no)

    I did add that to my golded.cfg and it still does that.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Oli on Wed Dec 4 09:47:38 2019
    Hello Oli,

    I'm not sure why that is, it's been that way for a number of
    years.

    Funny, I don't see an "Re:" in the message you replied to and my
    Golded just strips the "Re:".

    When I reply to Dan's reply to Frank that caused that, just a few messages back.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Alan Ianson on Wed Dec 4 19:45:10 2019
    I'm not sure why that is, it's been that way for a number of
    years.

    Funny, I don't see an "Re:" in the message you replied to and my
    Golded just strips the "Re:".

    When I reply to Dan's reply to Frank that caused that, just a few
    messages back.

    Even with that mail I cannot reproduce the problem. When does it happen? right after reply in editing mode or after the mail was saved?
    I wonder what the difference between my Golded and your Golded are. You use Squish? 32 or 64 bit?


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Oli on Wed Dec 4 11:15:16 2019
    Hello Oli,

    When I reply to Dan's reply to Frank that caused that, just a few
    messages back.

    Even with that mail I cannot reproduce the problem. When does it
    happen? right after reply in editing mode or after the mail was saved?
    I wonder what the difference between my Golded and your Golded are.
    You use Squish? 32 or 64 bit?

    It happens as soon as I hit <Alt>Q to reply, I can see it in the header.

    I am currently using Jam bases but have seen the same with Squish bases also.
    use a mix of OSs, generaly slackware or debian, always the x86_64 releases.

    Maybe it a 32 vs 64 bit thing?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Alan Ianson on Wed Dec 4 20:35:30 2019
    Hi Alan!

    04 Dec 2019 09:45, from Alan Ianson -> Richard Menedetter:

    EDITREPLYRE <yes/no/numeric> (no)
    I did add that to my golded.cfg and it still does that.

    Does what?
    If you set it to no it will not insert Re: and strip it from replies.
    If you set it to yes it will add Re:.
    If you set it to numeric it will generate Re^n:

    Works like a charm.
    I set it to yes for this reply.
    Will delete it again, as I do NOT want Re: in the subject for my replies.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Richard Menedetter on Wed Dec 4 11:48:54 2019
    Hello Richard,

    EDITREPLYRE <yes/no/numeric> (no)
    I did add that to my golded.cfg and it still does that.

    Does what?

    My subject lines get scrambled.

    If you set it to no it will not insert Re: and strip it from replies.
    If you set it to yes it will add Re:.
    If you set it to numeric it will generate Re^n:

    Mine is set to no.

    Works like a charm.
    I set it to yes for this reply.
    Will delete it again, as I do NOT want Re: in the subject for my
    replies.

    I don't want the Re: on there either. I wouldn't mind if it just left it there untouched.

    My golded does that by default without any EDITREPLYRE keyword in the config.
    added that keyword in the hope it would make a difference but it doesn't.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Alan Ianson on Wed Dec 4 22:29:54 2019
    Hello Oli,

    When I reply to Dan's reply to Frank that caused that, just a
    few messages back.

    Even with that mail I cannot reproduce the problem. When does it
    happen? right after reply in editing mode or after the mail was
    saved? I wonder what the difference between my Golded and your
    Golded are. You use Squish? 32 or 64 bit?

    It happens as soon as I hit <Alt>Q to reply, I can see it in the
    header.

    I am currently using Jam bases but have seen the same with Squish
    bases also.

    The subject is scambled before it's written to the message base, it seems it doesn't have anything to do with the message base.

    I use a mix of OSs, generaly slackware or debian, always
    the x86_64 releases.

    Maybe it a 32 vs 64 bit thing?

    Maybe. My Linux is 32-bit (Raspbian).

    You could try MsgEd ;)


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Oli on Wed Dec 4 14:16:44 2019
    Hello Oli,

    The subject is scambled before it's written to the message base, it
    seems it doesn't have anything to do with the message base.

    I don't think so.

    I use a mix of OSs, generaly slackware or debian, always
    the x86_64 releases.

    Maybe it a 32 vs 64 bit thing?

    Maybe. My Linux is 32-bit (Raspbian).

    That is my best guess. Only a guess.

    You could try MsgEd ;)

    I like msged also although I don't have it up and running ATM. I takes a little
    care and attention to get set up. I think that was Tobias's doing some years ago and it hasn't been looked at in a long time.

    Msged also uses .sql last read pointers. That's not really a problem but if you
    pick up again with another editor like golded it won't know where you left off. That's only an issue if you use Jam messages bases.

    I find when replying with msged the quotes can be a little zig zagy so you need
    to fix that up a bit, if you care about those things.

    None the less msged is a very capable message editor and I'll likely have it up
    and running here sooner or later.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to Michael Dukelsky on Wed Dec 4 18:31:00 2019
    On 04 Dec 2019, Michael Dukelsky said the following...

    The only issue that I'm having, is incoming netmail messages are giving me the error message of: Exception 0xc0000005 (Access violation) at address 0x002a9a1e

    I may try to find the bug if you send me your full hpt configuration without pas swords and one of those pkts causing the exception (in one archive).

    I have sent you any email with the archive attached. I currently running hpt/w32-mvcdll 1.9.0-cur 2019-11-24 on a Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit system.

    I've noticed that HPT is not able to toss these messages, but it does send a netmail to me indicating a new echo was auto-added. So, I'm not thinking it
    is a file access issue...

    Thank you so much for taking a look at this. I really appreciate it.


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  • From Michael Dukelsky@2:5020/1042 to Dan Richter on Thu Dec 5 20:07:30 2019
    Hello Dan,

    Wednesday December 04 2019, Dan Richter wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

    The only issue that I'm having, is incoming netmail messages
    are giving me the error message of: Exception 0xc0000005 (Access
    violation) at address 0x002a9a1e

    I may try to find the bug if you send me your full hpt
    configuration without pas swords and one of those pkts causing
    the exception (in one archive).

    I have sent you any email with the archive attached.

    There is an issue in your hpt configuration. Your address is defined after the netmail area is defined. But the main address must be defined before any areas. It is better to define address at the very beginning where you define name, location and sysop. Since neither tparser nor hpt checked this I fixed the bug. Now both of them will complain for the wrong definitions order.

    You may download the new versions here: https://github.com/huskyproject/fidoconf/releases/latest https://github.com/huskyproject/hpt/releases/latest

    tparser is in the fidoconf archive.

    Michael

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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to Michael Dukelsky on Thu Dec 5 18:22:42 2019
    On 05 Dec 2019, Michael Dukelsky said the following...

    There is an issue in your hpt configuration. Your address is defined
    after the n etmail area is defined. But the main address must be defined before any areas. I t is better to define address at the very beginning

    I can't believe I didn't notice that... I feel like an idiot now... :)
    That's what happens when you keep adding lines to the config, without paying attention to where they are...

    Thank you SO much for taking a look at it for me.

    where you define name, locat ion and sysop. Since neither tparser nor
    hpt checked this I fixed the bug. Now b oth of them will complain for
    the wrong definitions order.

    I'm going to upgrade them now. :)

    Thanks again.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Dan Richter on Thu Dec 5 18:50:48 2019
    Hello Dan,

    I can't believe I didn't notice that... I feel like an idiot now... :)

    Don't feel that way. It's something that can happen when first setting up and now because of your experience tparser will also report the issue when it happens.

    Your setup has been working well for echomail and I have made so many adjustments to my config over the years it would make your head spin.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dan Richter@1:317/3 to Alan Ianson on Thu Dec 5 20:02:10 2019
    On 05 Dec 2019, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Don't feel that way. It's something that can happen when first setting
    up and now because of your experience tparser will also report the issue when it happens.

    I just guess all the hours I spent staring at that config, and going through
    it line-by-line, I would have noticed that.

    I am very grateful to the addition to tparser. It was my best friend, or
    worst enemy, while I was first trying to set up hpt and htick. ;)

    Your setup has been working well for echomail and I have made so many adjustments to my config over the years it would make your head spin.. :)

    Glad to hear the echomail has been flowing smoothly. I'm still making tweaks
    to my config here on CRBBS config as well. :) Always something else to try/setup. ;)


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