Something will happen tonight.
The US military will stage a coup.
A coup d'etat in the USA.
Tonight, 2 February 2021, at 6 pm, EST.
That would be midnight in Spain.
And then all will be revealed.
Joe Biden was arrested and executed
last year, with a body double taking
his place. Along with lots of other
details the world is currently
unawares of ...
Something will happen tonight.
The US military will stage a coup.
A coup d'etat in the USA.
Tonight, 2 February 2021, at 6 pm, EST.
That would be midnight in Spain.
And then all will be revealed.
Joe Biden was arrested and executed
last year, with a body double taking
his place. Along with lots of other
details the world is currently
unawares of ...
Have you been stealing PaulQ's incohol?
So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
And do you know what happened? At exactly
6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
Biden himself (not the fake body double)
authorized the US military to vaccinate
everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
The closest thing to martial law as one
can get without actually declaring martial
law.
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
David Drummond wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-
On 7/02/2021 00:05, 2203/2 wrote:
So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
And do you know what happened? At exactly
6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
Biden himself (not the fake body double)
authorized the US military to vaccinate
everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
The closest thing to martial law as one
can get without actually declaring martial
law.
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?
None of that is factual. But it is entertaining.
Yes. They give thousands a day to soldiers and their families.
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
None of that is factual. But it is entertaining.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Yes. They give thousands a day to soldiers and their families.
Ah - so military medical teams would give the shots - not the grunt solders
as LL's writings seem to suggest.
Lee Lofaso wrote to David Drummond <=-olders
Hello David,
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
None of that is factual. But it is entertaining.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Yes. They give thousands a day to soldiers and their families.
Ah - so military medical teams would give the shots - not the grunt
as LL's writings seem to suggest.
One of those grunt soldiers is a woman in the Air Force. She is
in the medical corps. A high school graduate, barely 18 years old,
never spent a day in college. But she knows how to lock and load
that syringe, and is a a crack shot. Never misses and always hits
her target. If you see her coming your way, you have nowhere to
run. And nowhere to hide. She is gonna get you. And tag you.
And then cry out to her buddies - "Bullseye!"
--Lee
--
It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken
--- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
* Origin: news://eljaco.se (2:203/2)
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
None of that is factual. But it is entertaining.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Yes. They give thousands a day to soldiers and their families.
Ah - so military medical teams would give the shots - not the gruntolders
as LL's writings seem to suggest.
One of those grunt soldiers is a woman in the Air Force. She is
in the medical corps. A high school graduate, barely 18 years old,
never spent a day in college. But she knows how to lock and load
that syringe, and is a a crack shot. Never misses and always hits
her target. If you see her coming your way, you have nowhere to
run. And nowhere to hide. She is gonna get you. And tag you.
And then cry out to her buddies - "Bullseye!"
--Lee
--
It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken
--- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
* Origin: news://eljaco.se (2:203/2)
Is... wait a sec.... was that some sort of kooky Army/Nurse kinky femdom fanfic???
On 7/02/2021 00:05, 2203/2 wrote:
So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
And do you know what happened? At exactly
6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
Biden himself (not the fake body double)
authorized the US military to vaccinate
everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
The closest thing to martial law as one
can get without actually declaring martial
law.
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?
--
Regards
David
; LL> Now everybody in America is going to be shot.
; The US military are qualified to do injections?
; Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?
Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.
So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
And do you know what happened? At exactly
6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
Biden himself (not the fake body double)
authorized the US military to vaccinate
everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
The closest thing to martial law as one
can get without actually declaring martial
law.
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?
--
Regards
David
Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.
Lee Lofaso wrote to Carol Shenkenberger <=-
@MSGID: <60269650.34.fidonet_fidonews@VAGUEBBS>
@REPLY: <6025E9F1.31.fidonet_fidonews@VAGUEBBS>
Hello Carol,
So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
And do you know what happened? At exactly
6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
Biden himself (not the fake body double)
authorized the US military to vaccinate
everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
The closest thing to martial law as one
can get without actually declaring martial
law.
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?
--
Regards
David
Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.
Charlie Ward made a claim about what was going to happen
at a particular time on a certain day. Which is what I wrote
about in the message. Ward's prediction did not turn out
quite the way he thought it would. I noted what actually
did happen. Which is President Biden authorizing the US
military to inject people with the covid vaccine.
Why you have a problem with that is beyond me. The US
military trains people all the time. For many different
kinds of jobs. You know that. If you think that is bull,
then you should re-enlist. Be all that you can be, with
loaded syringe in hand. Just a poke. That's all that is
needed to do. Follow orders, and give people a poke.
None of that is factual. But it is entertaining.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Yes. They give thousands a day to soldiers and their families.
Ah - so military medical teams would give the shots - not the grunt solders
as LL's writings seem to suggest.
Now everybody in America is going to be shot.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?
Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.
While the Australian government insists that the vaccination will not be compulsory here I suspect they will make life difficult for those who choose not to have it.
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Vague <=-
Hello Vague,
1) There is no node 1:3603/9999 in the nodelist.
2) There isn't even a net 3603.
3) Real names are tradition in Fidonet.
So, who are you?
1) There is no node 1:3603/9999 in the nodelist.
2) There isn't even a net 3603.
3) Real names are tradition in Fidonet.
So, who are you?
Very interesting. I do know he's a troll who recently crawled out from under a rock in Dove-Net. Looks like he's impersonating a Fido node,
can anyone see the "via" lines of his messages and know what hub is
being exploited?
Lee Lofaso wrote to Carol Shenkenberger <=-
So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
And do you know what happened? At exactly
6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
Biden himself (not the fake body double)
authorized the US military to vaccinate
everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
The closest thing to martial law as one
can get without actually declaring martial
law.
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?
--
Regards
David
Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.
Charlie Ward made a claim about what was going to happen
at a particular time on a certain day. Which is what I wrote
about in the message. Ward's prediction did not turn out
quite the way he thought it would. I noted what actually
did happen. Which is President Biden authorizing the US
military to inject people with the covid vaccine.
Why you have a problem with that is beyond me. The US
military trains people all the time. For many different
kinds of jobs. You know that. If you think that is bull,
then you should re-enlist. Be all that you can be, with
loaded syringe in hand. Just a poke. That's all that is
needed to do. Follow orders, and give people a poke.
the "Lee" method:
Step 1) post garbage
Step 2) say what you posted was just you parroting back false shit that someone else said and you didn't check at all
Step 3) throw that person directly under the bus, then say you have CORRECTED the garbage
Step 4) reintroduce the lie after altering it slightly
Step 5) insinuate that the only way to possibly disprove the lie is by doing
something extreme, like joining the military
Step 6) end by mocking the military and military medical personell and insinuate they are complicit in some nefarious conspiracy.
can anyone see the "via" lines of his messages and know what hub is
being exploited?
Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dan Clough <=-
1) There is no node 1:3603/9999 in the nodelist.
2) There isn't even a net 3603.
3) Real names are tradition in Fidonet.
So, who are you?
Very interesting. I do know he's a troll who recently crawled out from under a rock in Dove-Net. Looks like he's impersonating a Fido node,
can anyone see the "via" lines of his messages and know what hub is
being exploited?
There are no Via lines in echomail, but his path lines start
with: @PATH: 135/391. That is:
,391,Vague_BBS,Largo_FL,David_Duff,-Unpublished-,300,CM,INA:vague. ddns.net,IBN,ITN
So my guess would be: mister Vague is David Duff...
Bjrn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-
can anyone see the "via" lines of his messages and know what hub is
being exploited?
As Wilfred already has explained, there is no Via lines in
echomail, but we do have Path lines. And the Path line to my
system may be like Wilfred's:
X-JAM-PATH2D: 135/391 300 3634/12 640/1384 221/1 203/0 2
So my guess would be: mister Vague is David Duff...
I just hope that Largo_FL has nothing to do with Mar-a-Lago.
Nice. So I wonder why he's posting from an apparent address of 1:3603/9999 ?
Misconfiguration, or attempted misdirection?
So my guess would be: mister Vague is David Duff...
sounds like he just needs to go back over his configuration and fix the FTN
addresses in his fidonet areas, then... a simple thing to fix, really... certainly nothing worth flamage and heavy bombardment...
Hello Carol,
So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
And do you know what happened? At exactly
6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
Biden himself (not the fake body double)
authorized the US military to vaccinate
everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
The closest thing to martial law as one
can get without actually declaring martial
law.
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?
--
Regards
David
Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.
Charlie Ward made a claim about what was going to happen
at a particular time on a certain day. Which is what I wrote
about in the message. Ward's prediction did not turn out
quite the way he thought it would. I noted what actually
did happen. Which is President Biden authorizing the US
military to inject people with the covid vaccine.
Why you have a problem with that is beyond me. The US
military trains people all the time. For many different
kinds of jobs. You know that. If you think that is bull,
then you should re-enlist. Be all that you can be, with
loaded syringe in hand. Just a poke. That's all that is
needed to do. Follow orders, and give people a poke.
--Lee
--
It Ain't Payday If It Ain't Nuts In Your Mouth
Hello Vague,
Lee Lofaso wrote to Carol Shenkenberger <=-
So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
And do you know what happened? At exactly
6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
Biden himself (not the fake body double)
authorized the US military to vaccinate
everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
The closest thing to martial law as one
can get without actually declaring martial
law.
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?
--
Regards
David
Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.
Charlie Ward made a claim about what was going to happen
at a particular time on a certain day. Which is what I wrote
about in the message. Ward's prediction did not turn out
quite the way he thought it would. I noted what actually
did happen. Which is President Biden authorizing the US
military to inject people with the covid vaccine.
Why you have a problem with that is beyond me. The US
military trains people all the time. For many different
kinds of jobs. You know that. If you think that is bull,
then you should re-enlist. Be all that you can be, with
loaded syringe in hand. Just a poke. That's all that is
needed to do. Follow orders, and give people a poke.
the "Lee" method:
Tried and true.
Step 1) post garbage
What garbage?
Step 2) say what you posted was just you parroting back false shit that someone else said and you didn't check at all
Charlie Ward made the claim. It is all on video. I watched his
video, on YouTube, from start to finish. According to Ward, it was
all true. He said he found about it from a very high source.
Step 3) throw that person directly under the bus, then say you have CORRECTED the garbage
After the time had passed for the event predicted to have taken
place, I noted what had happened. At no time did I say or write that
Charlie Ward had lied or made anything up.
Step 4) reintroduce the lie after altering it slightly
I never accused Charlie Ward or anybody else of lying.
Step 5) insinuate that the only way to possibly disprove the lie is bydoing
something extreme, like joining the military
I noted what President Joe Biden did on the date and time predicted.
At no time did I ever say or claim that anybody had to join the
military to prove or disprove anything. In fact, I encouraged folks
to join the fight, rather than run away like cowards.
Step 6) end by mocking the military and military medical personell and insinuate they are complicit in some nefarious conspiracy.
I never claimed she served her country dishonorably. Hell, the orange
clown who pretended to be president got five deferments as his means
of keeping his sorry bum away from military duty in Vietnam. So what's
it to you? If you are unable to serve on the front lines in this war
against a pandemic, then why criticize those who have already served
this country with honor and distinction?
I am sure Carol S. would gladly pick up her syringe and poke you in
the arm. And you should thank her for doing so, if she does.
--Lee
--
Stop Workin', Start Jerkin'
mark lewis wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Nice. So I wonder why he's posting from an apparent address of 1:3603/9999 ?
Misconfiguration, or attempted misdirection?
net3603 used to cover the tampa area... the entire state of
florida is now covered by one net, net135...
IIRC, david is a returning operator and he appears to have set up
using the old net and temporary node number used for applying for
a node... i would guess that he configured his system using the
temp number and just hasn't gone back to change everything to use
his actual assigned address... a simple oversight... probably
encumbered by using a configuration script or similar tool when configuring fidonet for his system...
President Joe Biden gave the order. Remember, he is Commander-in-Chief
of the armed forces (and Leader of the Free World)
Carol S. will vouch for me. She knows what I am talking about having experience in such matters. Or you can wait until grunt soldiers come knocking on your door, with smiles on their faces.
Only for those who do not depend on receiving a pension check.
Just as US football holds a "world series" with only US teams involved "leader of the free world" only includes USA.
mark lewis wrote to David Drummond <=-"lea
Just as US football holds a "world series" with only US teams involved
der of the free world" only includes USA.
erm... that's baseball with the "world series" ;)
american football's similar is the "super bowl"...
Just as US football holds a "world series" with only US teamsinvolved
"lea
der of the free world" only includes USA.
erm... that's baseball with the "world series" ;)
american football's similar is the "super bowl"...
Yes, and it is not *only* US teams, there are a couple of Canadian teams in major league baseball. :-)
Nice. So I wonder why he's posting from an apparent address of
1:3603/9999 ?
Misconfiguration, or attempted misdirection?
net3603 used to cover the tampa area... the entire state of
florida is now covered by one net, net135...
All right, you are probably correct.
He also should properly configure his system to use real names in Fido echos.
But I guess that isn't a thing, any more.
Re: Coup D'Etat
By: David Drummond to Lee Lofaso on Sun Feb 14 2021 13:36:22
Just as US football holds a "world series" with only US teams involved "leader of the free world" only includes USA.
erm... that's baseball with the "world series" ;)
Yes, and it is not *only* US teams, there are a couple of Canadian teams
in major league baseball. :-)
involved "leader of the free world" only includes USA.
erm... that's baseball with the "world series" ;)
american football's similar is the "super bowl"...
Yes, and it is not *only* US teams, there are a couple of Canadian teams in major league baseball. :-)
Rob Swindell wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Yes, and it is not *only* US teams, there are a couple of Canadian teams
in major league baseball. :-)
Well, one now. The Montreal Expos became the Washington Nationals
in 2004.
David Drummond wrote to Dan Clough <=-
+DD>> Just as US football holds a "world series" with only US
teams involved
+ml>> erm... that's baseball with the "world series" ;)
+ml>> american football's similar is the "super bowl"...
Yes, and it is not *only* US teams, there are a couple of Canadian teams in major league baseball.+ :-)
Oh - of course. The "world" comprises USA AND Canada.
Just as US football holds a "world series" with only US teams
involved "leader of the free world" only includes USA.
erm... that's baseball with the "world series" ;)
american football's similar is the "super bowl"...
Football/baseball ... near enough :)
So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
And do you know what happened? At exactly
6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
Biden himself (not the fake body double)
authorized the US military to vaccinate
everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
The closest thing to martial law as one
can get without actually declaring martial
law.
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?
--
Regards
David
Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.
Charlie Ward made a claim about what was going to happen
at a particular time on a certain day. Which is what I wrote
about in the message. Ward's prediction did not turn out
quite the way he thought it would. I noted what actually
did happen. Which is President Biden authorizing the US
military to inject people with the covid vaccine.
Why you have a problem with that is beyond me. The US
military trains people all the time. For many different
kinds of jobs. You know that. If you think that is bull,
then you should re-enlist. Be all that you can be, with
loaded syringe in hand. Just a poke. That's all that is
needed to do. Follow orders, and give people a poke.
Lee, you are an idiot.
The US military has Doctors, Nurses and all the same stuff any hospital staff have. We even have hospitals. Of COURSE we are
administering COVID shots. Just like we do flu shots and others. Been doing that for 40 years for various vaccinations.
Military treatment facilities are already doing COVID shots and have been since the first doses arrived.
They have moved into the 1B set locally. VA is also doing them for our older vets.
So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
And do you know what happened? At exactly
6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
Biden himself (not the fake body double)
authorized the US military to vaccinate
everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
The closest thing to martial law as one
can get without actually declaring martial
law.
And to think he did it without the consent
of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
He just went and told them to do it. So they
did. Now everybody in America is going to be
shot.
The US military are qualified to do injections?
Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?
--
Regards
David
Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.
Charlie Ward made a claim about what was going to happen
at a particular time on a certain day. Which is what I wrote
about in the message. Ward's prediction did not turn out
quite the way he thought it would. I noted what actually
did happen. Which is President Biden authorizing the US
military to inject people with the covid vaccine.
Why you have a problem with that is beyond me. The US
military trains people all the time. For many different
kinds of jobs. You know that. If you think that is bull,
then you should re-enlist. Be all that you can be, with
loaded syringe in hand. Just a poke. That's all that is
needed to do. Follow orders, and give people a poke.
the "Lee" method:
Tried and true.
Step 1) post garbage
What garbage?
thatStep 2) say what you posted was just you parroting back false shit
someone else said and you didn't check at all
Charlie Ward made the claim. It is all on video. I watched his
video, on YouTube, from start to finish. According to Ward, it was
all true. He said he found about it from a very high source.
Step 3) throw that person directly under the bus, then say you have
CORRECTED the garbage
After the time had passed for the event predicted to have taken
place, I noted what had happened. At no time did I say or write that
Charlie Ward had lied or made anything up.
Step 4) reintroduce the lie after altering it slightly
I never accused Charlie Ward or anybody else of lying.
byStep 5) insinuate that the only way to possibly disprove the lie is
doing
something extreme, like joining the military
I noted what President Joe Biden did on the date and time predicted.
At no time did I ever say or claim that anybody had to join the
military to prove or disprove anything. In fact, I encouraged folks
to join the fight, rather than run away like cowards.
andStep 6) end by mocking the military and military medical personell
insinuate they are complicit in some nefarious conspiracy.
I never claimed she served her country dishonorably. Hell, the orange
clown who pretended to be president got five deferments as his means
of keeping his sorry bum away from military duty in Vietnam. So what's
it to you? If you are unable to serve on the front lines in this war
against a pandemic, then why criticize those who have already served
this country with honor and distinction?
I am sure Carol S. would gladly pick up her syringe and poke you in
the arm. And you should thank her for doing so, if she does.
Lee, you remain an idiot and you are the only one who doesn't know it.
Sad that.
I didn't say that it did, you ignorant fool.
I was simply correcting your lie that the World Series could only have
US teams involved.
Take a remedial English lesson,
sure... if you consider cricket and soccer to be "near enough" ;)
Not bull. Just reporting the facts. Such as they are.
Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.
Not bull. Just reporting the facts. Such as they are.
There are no facts, only opinions ... at least that's what I think.
erm... that's baseball with the "world series" ;)
american football's similar is the "super bowl"...
Football/baseball ... near enough :)
sure... if you consider cricket and soccer to be "near enough" ;)
They may as well be - neither is doing anything to further humankind.
What is man's obsession with "sports" that involve balls?
Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.
Not bull. Just reporting the facts. Such as they are.
There are no facts, only opinions ... at least that's what I think.
Nobody can have just one. That's a fact.
Playing with a goat carcass is much more fun.
I am shocked. Truly shocked. A man of your intellect, ...
Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.
Not bull. Just reporting the facts. Such as they are.
There are no facts, only opinions ... at least that's what I think.
Nobody can have just one. That's a fact.
Or so you think...
What is man's obsession with "sports" that involve balls?
Playing with a goat carcass is much more fun.
It is when the goat is still alive.
:)
There are no facts, only opinions ... at least that's what I think.
I am shocked. Truly shocked. A man of your intellect, ...
I think you have me confused with someone else...
I dunno if i want to try that. Or even go there ...
Playing with a goat carcass is much more fun.
It is when the goat is still alive.
:)
I dunno if i want to try that. Or even go there ...
New Zealanders are not only enamoured with sheep...
Lee, we have THOUSANDS of health care professionals between the branchs. capable of giving shots.
The gap is we do not have shots to give. Same as everyone else.
Stop being an idiot on this one.
Lee Lofaso wrote to Carol Shenkenberger <=-
@MSGID: <603254A3.140.fidonet_fidonews@20xd6>
@REPLY: <60317A91.136.fidonet_fidonews@VAGUEBBS>
Hello Carol,
Lee, we have THOUSANDS of health care professionals between the branchs. capable of giving shots.
No argument there. Grunt soldiers can be taught many skills.
Including how to administer shots. Six weeks of basic training,
plus maybe a few hours on how to lock and load a syringe, the
they are ready to go!
The gap is we do not have shots to give. Same as everyone else.
Not to worry. Help is on the way. President Biden has ordered
millions of gallons more of that good stuff to distribute to the
troops. And if that is not enough, he will order more. And more.
And more. As much as necessary. After all, this is a war we are
fighting. A war against a pandemic.
Stop being an idiot on this one.
President Joe Biden is also Commander-in-Chief.
Donald J. Trump is just a private citizen.
Lee Lofaso is a special case.
Lee, we have THOUSANDS of health care professionals between the
branchs. capable of giving shots.
No argument there. Grunt soldiers can be taught many skills.
Including how to administer shots. Six weeks of basic training,
plus maybe a few hours on how to lock and load a syringe, the
they are ready to go!
As a Disable Veteran that was a Combat Medic, I can attest that Lee is NOT correct.
That training is not given to the vast majority of soldiers.
That training is MOS specific or available to a handful of soldiers selected
by their units to attend the Combat Medic course.
The overwhelming majority of soldiers do not get trained in the admistration
of injections.
That being said, there are STILL thousands of health care professionals between the branchs capable of giving vaccinations, as Carol said.
The gap is we do not have shots to give. Same as everyone else.
Fact.
Not to worry. Help is on the way. President Biden has ordered
millions of gallons more of that good stuff to distribute to the
troops. And if that is not enough, he will order more. And more.
And more. As much as necessary. After all, this is a war we are
fighting. A war against a pandemic.
Good... but I sense sacrcasm in your reply, Lee.
I also fail to see a problem with providing enough vaccinations during a pandemic.
Stop being an idiot on this one.
President Joe Biden is also Commander-in-Chief.
Donald J. Trump is just a private citizen.
Lee Lofaso is a special case.
Water is wet.
The Sun is hot.
Vaccines work and save lives.
Lee Lofaso wrote to Vague <=-
@MSGID: <60343A2E.151.fidonet_fidonews@20xd6>
@REPLY: <6032CE71.147.fidonet_fidonews@20xd6>
Hello Vague,
Lee, we have THOUSANDS of health care professionals between the
branchs. capable of giving shots.
No argument there. Grunt soldiers can be taught many skills.
Including how to administer shots. Six weeks of basic training,
plus maybe a few hours on how to lock and load a syringe, the
they are ready to go!
As a Disable Veteran that was a Combat Medic, I can attest that Lee is NOT correct.
How hard can it be for a guy or gal fresh out of high school
(or with a GED) to give a stranger a jab in the arm with a loaded
syringe? Even old grunts who are disabled vets can do that.
That training is not given to the vast majority of soldiers.
You are talking about giving folks a jab in the arm with a syringe.
Really not all that hard to do. Of course, first you have to load it,
but we're not talking total idiots here.
That training is MOS specific or available to a handful of soldierselected
by their units to attend the Combat Medic course.
This is not open heart surgery or brain transplants. Grab a syringe,
load it up, and shoot your next victim. That's all there is to it.
The overwhelming majority of soldiers do not get trained in thedmistration
of injections.
This is not rocket science.
That being said, there are STILL thousands of health care professionals between the branchs capable of giving vaccinations, as Carol said.
Carol admitted I was right, that President Biden ordered thousands
of US military to do what they are doing. Why you have a problem with
that is beyond me.
The gap is we do not have shots to give. Same as everyone else.
Fact.
Our troops will use everything they get in order to fulfill their
mission. And continue the operation for as long as it is needed.
Not to worry. Help is on the way. President Biden has ordered
millions of gallons more of that good stuff to distribute to the
troops. And if that is not enough, he will order more. And more.
And more. As much as necessary. After all, this is a war we are
fighting. A war against a pandemic.
Good... but I sense sacrcasm in your reply, Lee.
Unlike private citizen Donald J. Trump, President Biden is totally
serious about winning this war. And he does have a plan, which he has already enacted.
I also fail to see a problem with providing enough vaccinations during a pandemic.
I'm sure our troops are up to the job they have been trained to do.
Stop being an idiot on this one.
President Joe Biden is also Commander-in-Chief.
Donald J. Trump is just a private citizen.
Lee Lofaso is a special case.
Water is wet.
The Sun is hot.
Vaccines work and save lives.
And if no troops are used to administer those vaccines to people
who need and want them, what good will it do? And what about those
people who refuse to get vaccinated? Those anti-vaxxers are putting
not only themselves at risk, but also everybody else. Maybe it would
be better if President Biden were to order everybody to be shot on
sight. That way, we all will get it. Whether we like it, or not.
As a Disable Veteran that was a Combat Medic, I can attest that Lee is
NOT correct. That training is not given to the vast majority of
soldiers. That training is MOS specific or available to a handful of soldiers selected by their units to attend the Combat Medic course. The overwhelming majority of soldiers do not get trained in the admistration of injections. That being said, there are STILL thousands of health care professionals between the branchs capable of giving vaccinations, as
Carol said.
Jeff Thiele wrote to Vague <=-
@MSGID: <6035F042.153.fidonet_fidonews@20xd6>
@REPLY: <6032CE71.147.fidonet_fidonews@20xd6>
On 21 Feb 2021, Vague said the following...
As a Disable Veteran that was a Combat Medic, I can attest that Lee is
NOT correct. That training is not given to the vast majority of
soldiers. That training is MOS specific or available to a handful of soldiers selected by their units to attend the Combat Medic course. The overwhelming majority of soldiers do not get trained in the admistration of injections. That being said, there are STILL thousands of health care professionals between the branchs capable of giving vaccinations, as
Carol said.
As a disabled veteran who was not a combat medic, I disagree with this statement in one very, very specific case: Atropine autoinjectors.
Everything else I agree with.
Jeff.
Hello Carol,
Lee, we have THOUSANDS of health care professionals between the branchs capable of giving shots.
No argument there. Grunt soldiers can be taught many skills.
Including how to administer shots. Six weeks of basic training,
plus maybe a few hours on how to lock and load a syringe, the
they are ready to go!
The gap is we do not have shots to give. Same as everyone else.
Not to worry. Help is on the way. President Biden has ordered
millions of gallons more of that good stuff to distribute to the
troops. And if that is not enough, he will order more. And more.
And more. As much as necessary. After all, this is a war we are
fighting. A war against a pandemic.
Stop being an idiot on this one.
President Joe Biden is also Commander-in-Chief.
Donald J. Trump is just a private citizen.
Lee Lofaso is a special case.
--Lee
--
What can brown do for you?
Hi Dan,
On 2021-02-13 07:38:00, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:
1) There is no node 1:3603/9999 in the nodelist.
2) There isn't even a net 3603.
3) Real names are tradition in Fidonet.
So, who are you?
Very interesting. I do know he's a troll who recently crawled out fr under a rock in Dove-Net. Looks like he's impersonating a Fido node, can anyone see the "via" lines of his messages and know what hub is being exploited?
out fr1) There is no node 1:3603/9999 in the nodelist.
2) There isn't even a net 3603.
3) Real names are tradition in Fidonet.
So, who are you?
Very interesting. I do know he's a troll who recently crawled
under a rock in Dove-Net. Looks like he's impersonating a Fidonode,
can anyone see the "via" lines of his messages and know what hubis
being exploited?
I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because of a misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this was very deliberate.
There should be consequence's for such action & behavior.
Exploitation was his goal at every angle, his handle - Vauge.
I also went to the nodelist, I found nothing.
Could it be that these massages were gated to the newsgroups and then
back into Fidonet.
Policy 4 rules Fidonet, but is there a provision within policy to
account for what Mr. Duff was able to pull off
and additionally would he or could he be held accountable for a explanation of his previous antics?
Now that Mr. Duff has a fully fledged node in Fidonet wouldn't it seem logical and appropriate to reach out to his NC to see if they could shed any light as to what happened?
I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because of a misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this was very deliberate. There should be consequence's for such action & behavior.
I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because of a misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this was very deliberate. There should be consequence's for such action & behavior.
Exploitation was his goal at every angle, his handle - Vauge.
Now that Mr. Duff has a fully fledged node in Fidonet wouldn't it seem logical and appropriate to reach out to his NC to see if they could shed any light as to what happened?
Host,135,Sunshine_State_Net,Gainesville_FL,Eric_Renfro
I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because of
a misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this
was very deliberate. There should be consequence's for such action
& behavior.
On 2021-02-27 10:26:55, you wrote to me:
out fr1) There is no node 1:3603/9999 in the nodelist.
2) There isn't even a net 3603.
3) Real names are tradition in Fidonet.
So, who are you?
Very interesting. I do know he's a troll who recently crawled
under a rock in Dove-Net. Looks like he's impersonating a Fidonode,
can anyone see the "via" lines of his messages and know what huis
being exploited?
I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because of a misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this was ve deliberate.
I believe it was an honest mistake. He asked for help with his configuration (don't remember which area), and has since fixed it.
He still uses the alias. But that is ultimately up to the moderator, although it is a decenia old tradition (but not a ruel) in fidonet to
use your real-name...
There should be consequence's for such action & behavior.
If you really feel that way, you should talk to the area moderator(s),
or file a formal complaint with your *C, if you think it's not an
echomail specific offence...
Than you didn't look to close, it was very obvious from the path line and origin in his messages, who he was.
On 27 Feb 21 10:26:55, Gregory Deyss said the following to Wilfred Van Velzen:
I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because of a misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this was ver deliberate. There should be consequence's for such action & behavior.
I think he fixed whatever the problem was.
Re: Re: Who are you?
By: Gregory Deyss to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Feb 27 2021 10:26:55
I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because of
a misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this
was very deliberate. There should be consequence's for such action
& behavior.
i can tell you, without a doubt, that the erroneous FTN address in the origin line was a misconfiguration... he had set up originally with it (via a configuration script) to rejoin fidonet he was hoping to rejoin
the same net he had been in previously but that is not possible
anymore... he was not aware that the address had been written to each of his fidonet message areas' settings... it was not "deliberate" as in he was not trying to cause problems... once it was pointed out and he was able to investigate his fidonet areas' settings, he was quite able to
fix the problem with the erroneous address in the origin line...
I think he fixed whatever the problem was.
Then the matter is closed, to spite how annoying he has been in the past.
whether or not real names are required in this echo remains to be seen... the moderator has not spoken about it nor have they posted any rules for this area in years...
Jeff Thiele wrote to Vague <=-
@MSGID: <6035F042.153.fidonet_fidonews@20xd6>
@REPLY: <6032CE71.147.fidonet_fidonews@20xd6>
On 21 Feb 2021, Vague said the following...
As a Disable Veteran that was a Combat Medic, I can attest that Lee is NOT correct. That training is not given to the vast majority of soldiers. That training is MOS specific or available to a handful of soldiers selected by their units to attend the Combat Medic course. The overwhelming majority of soldiers do not get trained in the admistratio of injections. That being said, there are STILL thousands of health car professionals between the branchs capable of giving vaccinations, as Carol said.
As a disabled veteran who was not a combat medic, I disagree with this statement in one very, very specific case: Atropine autoinjectors.
Everything else I agree with.
Jeff.
Yeah. Atropine and 2-pam chloride auto-injector use is taught to all soldier as part of NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) readiness during Basic Traini But that's it. As a matter of fact, the National Institute of Health has instructions for the use of atropine and 2-pam chloride injectors accessable online to everyone at this address: https://chemm.nlm.nih.gov/antidote_nerveagents.htm
... That's just incredible! As in... it's just not credible.
=== MultiMail/Win v0.52
Lee adds things I never said on 'validating President Biden ordered thousands
of military to distribute the vaccine'. The only thing going on is we are handling our own but have sufficient numbers to assist as well in public distribution if called upon.
I was just running a report on HM (Navy medical rate). It exceeds 14,000 records so had to be done in series. There are about 18,000 of them on the enlisted side alone. This doesn't count reserves which may be almost as many.
Army has a MOS for Medical folks too as does the Air Force (Navy covers Marines). Can't be less than 40,000 on active duty between us all and that
doesn't count all the Doctors and Nurses.
Lee just likes to stir shit up for giggles.
Re: Re: Who are you?
By: Gregory Deyss to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Feb 27 2021 10:26:55
ofI do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because
actiona misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this
was very deliberate. There should be consequence's for such
& behavior.
ththe
i can tell you, without a doubt, that the erroneous FTN address in
origin line was a misconfiguration... he had set up originally withit
(via a configuration script) to rejoin fidonet he was hoping torejoin
the same net he had been in previously but that is not possible
anymore...
he was not aware that the address had been written to each of
his fidonet message areas' settings... it was not "deliberate" as in he
was not trying to cause problems... once it was pointed out and he was
able to investigate his fidonet areas' settings, he was quite able to
fix the problem with the erroneous address in the origin line...
Good enough for me, I was merely acting upon emotional judgment as well a bit of suspicion based on how he was with me in one particular echo.
When he referred to me as King of Fidonet here in New York
and then there also was use of the term Fidogod by him as well.
I told him I was neither of these.
I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because of a
misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this was very
deliberate. There should be consequence's for such action & behavior.
What actions & behavior do you speak of, and what consequences do you propose?
Exploitation was his goal at every angle, his handle - Vauge.
He posted his thoughts and opinions, I don't see any exploitation.
Now that Mr. Duff has a fully fledged node in Fidonet wouldn't it seem
logical and appropriate to reach out to his NC to see if they could
shed any light as to what happened?
What happened!?
Host,135,Sunshine_State_Net,Gainesville_FL,Eric_Renfro
I'm almost certain that Eric Renfro can do without the drama.
I do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because of a
misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this was very
deliberate. There should be consequence's for such action & behavior.
I think he fixed whatever the problem was.
whether or not real names are required in this echo remains to be seen... the moderator has not spoken about it nor have they posted any rules for this area in years...
On 27 Feb 21 10:26:55, Gregory Deyss said the following to WilfredVan
Velzen:
of aI do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because
was vermisconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, this
behavior.deliberate. There should be consequence's for such action &
I think he fixed whatever the problem was.
Then the matter is closed, to spite how annoying he has been in the past.
Unlike our former C-in-C, President Joe Biden is not a man known
for telling tall tales.
Hello Greg,
Re: Re: Who are you?
By: Gregory Deyss to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Feb 27 2021 10:26:5
of a misconfiguration or a miscommunication error, not at all, thisI do not buy into the idea or notion that this occurred because
action & behavior.was very deliberate. There should be consequence's for such
ththe
i can tell you, without a doubt, that the erroneous FTN address in
origin line was a misconfiguration... he had set up originally withit
(via a configuration script) to rejoin fidonet he was hoping torejoin
the same net he had been in previously but that is not possible
anymore...
he was not aware that the address had been written to each of
his fidonet message areas' settings... it was not "deliberate" as in
was not trying to cause problems... once it was pointed out and he w
able to investigate his fidonet areas' settings, he was quite able t
fix the problem with the erroneous address in the origin line...
Good enough for me, I was merely acting upon emotional judgment as we bit of suspicion based on how he was with me in one particular echo.
You are clearly delusional.
When he referred to me as King of Fidonet here in New York
Lemme tell you something, bub.
There is only one King of Fidonet around here.
And that ain't you. Wanna know why? Because Ross Cassell
claimed it first. And not a single sysop challenged him.
Furthermore, Ross Cassell has never relinquished his title.
He grabbed it, nobody challenged him, or even dares to.
Of course, he earned it. And everybody knew it.
As such, he did truly deserve the title.
If you are jealous, and feel you are more deserving than
Ross Cassell to be King of Fidonet, then there is only one
way to resolve this problem. You must challenge Ross Cassell
to a live duel on Facebook for the King of Fidonet title, as
he has already defeated every sysop in Fidonet. Or do like
all the other sysops did - live to another day by wimping
out.
The choice is up to you.
and then there also was use of the term Fidogod by him as well.
The Fidogods of Fidonet are a myth. As long as nobody tells Odin.
I told him I was neither of these.
Fidolord Greg of New York has a much more personal touch.
I like it.
Unlike our former C-in-C, President Joe Biden is not a man known
for telling tall tales.
But can we trust YOUR interpretation of what YOU think he is alleged to have said?
You are clearly delusional.
Your so late to this message the issue as put to rest so long ago, I have to
ask where ya been.
When he referred to me as King of Fidonet here in New York
Lemme tell you something, bub.
There is only one King of Fidonet around here.
And that ain't you. Wanna know why? Because Ross Cassell
claimed it first. And not a single sysop challenged him.
Furthermore, Ross Cassell has never relinquished his title.
He grabbed it, nobody challenged him, or even dares to.
Of course, he earned it. And everybody knew it.
As such, he did truly deserve the title.
If you are jealous, and feel you are more deserving than
Ross Cassell to be King of Fidonet, then there is only one
way to resolve this problem. You must challenge Ross Cassell
to a live duel on Facebook for the King of Fidonet title, as
he has already defeated every sysop in Fidonet. Or do like
all the other sysops did - live to another day by wimping
out.
The choice is up to you.
and then there also was use of the term Fidogod by him as well.
The Fidogods of Fidonet are a myth. As long as nobody tells Odin.
I told him I was neither of these.
Fidolord Greg of New York has a much more personal touch.
I like it.
I had to read all that just (but deleted the non-sense)
I have to let you know I have never thought of myself of such titles that some wiseass punk came up with, nor do I want or deserve any such titles.
I run my corner of things as the NC here in New York, the nodes that I currently serve will tell you that there is no godlike complex with me, whatsoever.
Of course. I never lie.
Lee Lofaso wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-
Every sysop is lord and master of his/her own system.
As well as his/her own universe.
I forget who it was that compared the telephone network to
the internet by saying that the telephone network was a
smart network with dumb endpoints, and the internet was a
dumb network with smart endpoints. It seemed like a sound
analogy.
Every sysop is lord and master of his/her own system.
As well as his/her own universe.
I forget who it was that compared the telephone network to the internet by saying that the telephone network was a smart network with dumb endpoints, and the internet was a dumb network with smart endpoints. It seemed like a sound analogy.
Unlike our former C-in-C, President Joe Biden is not a man known
for telling tall tales.
to have said?But can we trust YOUR interpretation of what YOU think he is DD>>alleged
Of course. I never lie.
Of course - the truth as you see it.
Kurt Weiske wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-
Lee Lofaso wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-
Every sysop is lord and master of his/her own system.
As well as his/her own universe.
I forget who it was that compared the telephone network to the internet
by saying that the telephone network was a smart network with dumb endpoints, and the internet was a dumb network with smart endpoints. It seemed like a sound analogy.
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