On 07-18-20 06:48, Bj”rn Felten <=-
spoke to Tim Richardson about Cognitive Test <=-
She further stated (get ready); `Thats a traditional prerogative of an incoming president.'
Interesting observation, thanks a lot Tim. Is that the
general US conception of how the incoming POTUS shall act?
Is firing and replacing everyone in the government, without
any reason, the norm for every new POTUS?
What a waste of cumulative knowledge
-- no wonder USA is
best in the world when it comes to spreading the corona
virus... :(
-- no wonder USA is
best in the world when it comes to spreading the corona
virus... :(
That distinction comes from the top and the lack of leadership there.
On 07-19-20 22:17, Lee Lofaso <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Plum book <=-
Hello Dale,
[..]
-- no wonder USA is
best in the world when it comes to spreading the corona
virus... :(
That distinction comes from the top and the lack of leadership there.
I beg to differ. The Trump administration has been the most pro-virus
team on the face of this planet. Just look at the results. No where
else can the virus run wild and free as the USA. And I mean no where.
[..]
-- no wonder USA is
best in the world when it comes to spreading the corona
virus... :(
That distinction comes from the top and the lack of leadership there.
I beg to differ. The Trump administration has been the most pro-virus
team on the face of this planet. Just look at the results. No where
else can the virus run wild and free as the USA. And I mean no where.
You say "I beg to differ" and then you agree with what I said. Was up with that?
You say "I beg to differ" and then you agree with what I said.
Was up with that?
Oh, c'mon. Was my impersonation of Trump really that bad?
As I said before to you, the career civil servents cannot be fired on a whim -- it takes serious charges to do so.
On 07-21-20 02:28, Bj”rn Felten <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Plum book <=-
As I said before to you, the career civil servents cannot be fired on a whim -- it takes serious charges to do so.
I remember that. But I didn't know about your Plum Book.
How much down from the top does it grasp. What if, for
instance the POTUS where to appoint the highest AG with a
new one (Barr) that *could* fire any state AG in the middle
of an investigation against the president?
Methinks you have a severe problem with your
constitution, and it's the Bunker Boy that should make you
aware of it. Please proceed with care before it's to late...
Cannot happen. The Federal Attorney General has no power what so ever against the State Attorneys General. He can (and has) attempt to file suit against them to impede their investigation, but that gets settled
in the court system.
I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how
it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more
than almost any other country's constitution.
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how
it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more
than almost any other country's constitution.
Because it is impossible to change it and adding amendments is
vey difficult.
When push comes to shove that rigidity may turn out to be a weakness.
It can not be adapted to a rapidly changing world.
A basic weakness of democracy is that it can turn itself into a dictatoship if that is what the majority wants. You (plural) keep
saying that in the US there are checks and balances that prevent
that.
I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more than almost any other country's constitution.
On 07-21-20 11:35, Bj”rn Felten <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Plum book <=-
Cannot happen. The Federal Attorney General has no power what so ever against the State Attorneys General. He can (and has) attempt to file suit against them to impede their investigation, but that gets settled
in the court system.
My bad. I must have misunderstood how, and by whom,
Geoffrey Berman was fired in the midst of an Trump
investigation. Was it even Trump himself who assumed that
power? If so, it seems even more like the Stalin age of
USSR...
On 07-21-20 11:46, Michiel Van Der Vlist <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Plum book <=-
I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how
it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more
than almost any other country's constitution.
wentYou say "I beg to differ" and then you agree with what I said.
Was up with that?
Oh, c'mon. Was my impersonation of Trump really that bad?
Well, I for one would give you a 3 out 10. That means that your sarcasm
over the heads of 70% of the listeners.
Just think of the accolades one
receives for having done it well!
Actually, I know far less of your government than you and most Europeans know about the USA government. I know more about the British Government than that of other European countries, probably because I lived there
for three years.
I second that (here in Sweden). It's so easy to topple a governmentwithout
even firing a single shot. :(
I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how
it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more
than almost any other country's constitution.
I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how
it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more
than almost any other country's constitution.
Because it is impossible to change it and adding amendments is
vey difficult.
Very contradictory "sentence" there. Is it *impossible* to
change, or is it *very difficult* to change? You do know that an amendment is a change, right?
I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how
it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more
than almost any other country's constitution.
That was done by intent of the founding fathers. They wanted somethingthat
might stand the test of time.
And that is why the USA is not a "pure" democracy, but has three
branches of government which are supposed to be co-equal and which are supposed to act as checks and balances against abuse of power by any one branch.
I certainly hope that does not happen, but that the USA gets pulled back from the brink by the next election.
Actually, I know far less of your government than you and most Europeans know about the USA government.
I know more about the British Government than that of other European countries, probably because I lived there for three years.
On 07-22-20 05:27, Bj”rn Felten <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Plum book <=-
I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more than almost any other country's constitution.
With all the amendments, it's not really intact, is it?
But how well is it conforming to the original idea?
Take for instance the second amendment that is the main reason for
all the gun violence in USA. It starts with "A well regulated militia...". Doesn't that mean that the rest of the
amendment should only concern the well regulated militia
and not every gun crazy redneck idiot in the country?
On 07-23-20 01:08, Ward Dossche <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Plum book <=-
Actually, I know far less of your government than you and most Europeans know about the USA government. I know more about the British Government than that of other European countries, probably because I lived there
for three years.
England is not Europe. They are nothing else but an island
which due to continental drift is moving towards the USA or
Canada.
On 07-23-20 02:51, Lee Lofaso <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Plum book <=-
Oh. You protest. Joe Biden would be declared the president by the
news media, and be sworn into office by Justice Roberts. What a pipe dream. President Trump would simply claim the election was rigged
and be sworn into office for a second term by Justice Clarence Thomas.
See how that works? Not a stolen election, but an election with no
result. No binding result. Meaning President Donald Trump forever.
England is not Europe.
They are nothing else but an island
Nope, England is a part of an island (the other parts being Scotland and Wales) which is by the way part of the European continent.
Nope, England is a part of an island (the other parts being Scotland
and Wales) which is by the way part of the European continent.
My fiends in EastAnglia are of a different opinion.
They claim
EastAnglia is separated from Europe by England. Which would mean that England is not ... part of Europe.
But as stated before, continental drift eventually will take care of
it
and the USA will become a kingdom with a monarch and honoring the
Magna Carta as their constitution..
A pity we'll be losing Ireland in
the process probably.
I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how
it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more
than almost any other country's constitution.
That was done by intent of the founding fathers. They wanted something that might stand the test of time.
I certainly hope that does not happen, but that the USA gets pulled back from the brink by the next election.
Actually, I know far less of your government than you and most Europeans know about the USA government.
I know more about the British Government than that of other European countries, probably because I lived there for three years.
Actually, I know far less of your government than you and most Europeans
know about the USA government. I know more about the British Government
than that of other European countries, probably because I lived there
for three years.
England is not Europe. They are nothing else but an island which due to continental drift is moving towards the USA or Canada.
Oh. You protest. Joe Biden would be declared the president by the
news media, and be sworn into office by Justice Roberts. What a pipe
dream. President Trump would simply claim the election was rigged
and be sworn into office for a second term by Justice Clarence Thomas.
See how that works? Not a stolen election, but an election with no
result. No binding result. Meaning President Donald Trump forever.
Another of your sarcastic delusions.
It is not Justice Roberts, it is Chief Justice Roberts.
What any other Justice might do is irrelevant.
In fact, if Trump tried to refuse to leave then the Whitehouse staff
would simply put his stuff out on the curb and the Secret Service would escort him out, by force if necessary.
The more likely scenario is that if Trump lost the election, he would tryto
cut a deal with Pence whereby he would resign and Pence would pardon him. That would work with respect to federal crimes he has committed, but not with respect to state crimes.
England is not Europe.
This is quite a tautology, being true for any country apart from England itself.
They are nothing else but an island
Nope, England is a part of an island (the other parts being Scotland and Wales) which is by the way part of the European continent.
But as stated before, continental drift eventually will take care of itand
the USA will become a kingdom with a monarch and honoring the Magna Carta as their constitution..
A pity we'll be losing Ireland in the process probably.
On 07-18-20 06:48, Björn Felten <=-
spoke to Tim Richardson about Cognitive Test <=-
She further stated (get ready); `Thats a traditional prerogative of an incoming president.'
Interesting observation, thanks a lot Tim. Is that the
general US conception of how the incoming POTUS shall act?
Is firing and replacing everyone in the government, without
any reason, the norm for every new POTUS?
What a waste of cumulative knowledge
Not everyone, just the political appointees as defined by the Plum Book.
On 07-22-20 05:27, Björn Felten <=-
With all the amendments, it's not really intact, is it?
But how well is it conforming to the original idea?
Pretty well, except that right now it is being stretched to the limit. DS>The amendments are simply how it has grown to fit changing situations.
Too bad that the Fido "constitution" did not allow for that.
Yeah...too bad! If it did, the lefties who run fido could either censor
or outright ban all opposing views (especially conservative). That way
the choir castrati would all sing the same song.
Tagline....."The Obama's bought a mansion right on the coast....and
that was the moment the ocean's rising began to slow..."
Ward Dossche wrote to TIM RICHARDSON <=-
Yeah...too bad! If it did, the lefties who run fido could either censor
or outright ban all opposing views (especially conservative). That way
the choir castrati would all sing the same song.
Just be glad lefties run Fidonet, that way freedom of speech is
still part of what goes on here.
Just be glad lefties run Fidonet, that way freedom of speech is
still part of what goes on here.
Yeah..... you mean the way Janis "runs" her echo? Like that? Do
you honestly think she allows freedom of speech in there? I'm
assuming you've seen the recent communications between myself and
her in that echo?
Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Yeah..... you mean the way Janis "runs" her echo? Like that? Do
you honestly think she allows freedom of speech in there? I'm
assuming you've seen the recent communications between myself and
her in that echo?
Janis has even thicker skin than I do, so if you got her upset it
means some treshold has been surpassed.
Janis has even thicker skin than I do, so if you got her upset it
means some treshold has been surpassed.
I'd say "surpassed" would be the understatement of the decade.
Yeah...too bad! If it did, the lefties who run fido could either censor
or outright ban all opposing views (especially conservative). That way
the choir castrati would all sing the same song.
I haven't counted noses recently, but there's very little left to censor WD>in the first place.
Just be glad lefties run Fidonet, that way freedom of speech is still part WD>of what goes on here.
Tagline....."The Obama's bought a mansion right on the coast....and
that was the moment the ocean's rising began to slow..."
Did you write that yourself ?
Ward Dossche wrote to TIM RICHARDSON <=-
Yeah...too bad! If it did, the lefties who run fido could either censor
or outright ban all opposing views (especially conservative). That way
the choir castrati would all sing the same song.
Just be glad lefties run Fidonet, that way freedom of speech is
still part of what goes on here.
Yeah..... you mean the way Janis "runs" her echo? Like that? Do
you honestly think she allows freedom of speech in there? I'm
assuming you've seen the recent communications between myself and
her in that echo?
Gimme a fuckin break.
Have you heard the term `cancel culture'?
"`Patriot': A person who is willing to defend their country against
all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC!"
Tagline;
"`Patriot': A person who is willing to defend their country against all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC!"
If any taglines I've posted up recently have riled you in any way........good!exactly
Tagline;
"Notice the similarities between the Communist and the Black Lives
Matter raised fist logos? You should. Except for the color they're
the same."
Have you heard the term `cancel culture'?
"`Patriot': A person who is willing to defend their country against
all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC!"
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to TIM RICHARDSON <=-
"`Patriot': A person who is willing to defend their country against
all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC!"
The native Americans were willing to defend their country, but unfortunateley they were overrun by barbarians with guns from
across the Atlantic..
"`Patriot': A person who is willing to defend their country against
all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC!"
The native Americans were willing to defend their country, but
unfortunateley they were overrun by barbarians with guns from
across the Atlantic..
Yep, they were Patriots.
Sometimes the Patriots lose.
Now you know.
Have you heard the term `cancel culture'?
As in banning TikTok by presidential decree?
Lee Lofaso wrote to Dan Clough <=-
"`Patriot': A person who is willing to defend their country against
all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC!"
The native Americans were willing to defend their country, but
unfortunateley they were overrun by barbarians with guns from
across the Atlantic..
Yep, they were Patriots.
Sometimes the Patriots lose.
Now you know.
Crazy Horse and White Bull ran wild over Lt. Col. George Custer
and his five companies of scouts.
And that was with bows and arrows. Just think what they would
have done to the US Army had they had real guns.
Have you heard the term `cancel culture'?
As in banning TikTok by presidential decree?
+1
Did you write that yourself ?
No. I was reading through some stuff I have on a few thumb drives, and realized I have a treasure trove of tagline material. So now, I sometimes add one or two for the `piss-off' value.
MvdV> The native Americans were willing to defend their country, but
MvdV> unfortunateley they were overrun by barbarians with guns from
across the Atlantic..
Didn't work out quite so well for Lt. Col. George Custer when
he ran into a Crazy Horse and White Bull who refused to move.
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to TIM RICHARDSON <=-
Hello TIM,
On Friday July 31 2020 20:29, you wrote to DAN CLOUGH:
Have you heard the term `cancel culture'?
As in banning TikTok by presidential decree?
"`Patriot': A person who is willing to defend their country against
all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC!"
The native Americans were willing to defend their country, but unfortunateley they were overrun by barbarians with guns from across
the Atlantic..
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