G'day

Australia is going through a warm patch. It was 45C (113F) here today - and is supposed to warm up even more later in the week.

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David

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Hi! David,

On 12/17/2019 05:05 PM, you wrote:

Australia is going through a warm patch. It was 45C (113F) here today - and is supposed to warm up even more later in the week.

Wow. Mate, we're having a cool spell here... 27C today. Bundy topped about 30C, I think.

It won't last long. Which is good as it's bloody uncomfortable.

Cheers,
Paul.

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 16:05:22 GMT
"David Drummond -> All" <0@305.640.3> wrote:

G'day

Australia is going through a warm patch. It was 45C (113F) here today
- and is supposed to warm up even more later in the week.

It's just natural and we cannot do anything about it. That it's men made is just a lie created by some liberal democrats or something like this ...

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On 17 Dec 19 09:25:12, Oli said the following to David Drummond:

It's just natural and we cannot do anything about it. That it's men made is just a lie created by some liberal democrats or something like this ...

Lol! Oh so we're on to THIS nonsense now, "climate change". I'll admit its a much more entertaining whine-fest topic from you than Fido politics.

Nick

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On 17/12/2019 18:47, 3640/1384.125 wrote:

 DD>> Australia is going through a warm patch. It was 45C (113F) here today
 DD>> and is supposed to warm up even more later in the week.

Wow.  Mate, we're having a cool spell here... 27C today.  Bundy topped about 30C, I think.

It won't last long.  Which is good as it's bloody uncomfortable.

The heat or the cool is uncomfortable?

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On 17/12/2019 18:55, 2280/464.47 wrote:

 DD>> Australia is going through a warm patch. It was 45C (113F) here today
 DD>> - and is supposed to warm up even more later in the week.

It's just natural and we cannot do anything about it. That it's men made
is just a lie created by some liberal democrats or something like this ...

It's still uncomfortably warm.

Do you honestly believe that all of the shit mankind pumps into the air, and all of the land we cover in cement/buildings is NOT affecting the environment?

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On 18/12/2019 00:45, 1229/426 wrote:

It's just natural and we cannot do anything about it. That it's men made is
just a lie created by some liberal democrats or something like this ...

Lol! Oh so we're on to THIS nonsense now, "climate change". I'll admit

its a

much more entertaining whine-fest topic from you than Fido politics.

I see that Oli posts from zone 2 but his rhetoric sound more zone 1-sh, orange haired zone 1-ish.

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Hi! David,

On 12/18/2019 07:21 AM, you wrote:

It won't last long. Which is good as it's bloody uncomfortable.

The heat or the cool is uncomfortable?

The damned _cool_.

Everything I touch is colder than me now. No fans 'on' since yesterday arvo, and I had to sleep under a light blanket when I woke /frozen/ at 02:30 this AM (21C official, but I reckon it was cooler).

I want my summer back!

Cheers,
Paul.

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On 18/12/2019 08:53, 3640/1384.125 wrote:

 DD>> The heat or the cool is uncomfortable?

The damned _cool_.

Everything I touch is colder than me now.  No fans 'on' since yesterday arvo, and I had to sleep under a light blanket when I woke /frozen/ at 02:30 this AM (21C official, but I reckon it was cooler).

I want my summer back!

ROFL

Hop on your push bike and come to South Australia. They're taking 48C by the end of the week.

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Hi! David,

On 12/18/2019 09:57 AM, you wrote:

I want my summer back!

ROFL

Hop on your push bike and come to South Australia. They're taking 48C by the end of the week.

S'okay. They're predicting 39C in Brisbane on the weekend. Meaning 40+ up here.

I have one pedestal fan going at medium already, and am back in a t-shirt. All good with the weekend only a couple of days away. Whoo!hoo!

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hello David,

Australia is going through a warm patch. It was 45C (113F) here today
- and is supposed to warm up even more later in the week.

It's just natural and we cannot do anything about it. That it's men made
is just a lie created by some liberal democrats or something like this ...

It's still uncomfortably warm.

That will soon change with the upcoming pole shift.

Do you honestly believe that all of the shit mankind pumps into the air,

and

all of the land we cover in cement/buildings is NOT affecting the environment?

Only the shit the British pump into the sea.
British Petroleum. Remember them? British oil company.
Pumped billions of crude into the Gulf of Mexico, destroying
shrimps and other sea animals. An American president from
Kenya went to Grand Isle, Louisiana to inspect the damage.
And all he gave us was the audacity of hope. Really.
Talk about hope we can believe in.

You know what happened next.

Vladimir Putin installed Donald Trump as the next POTUS, starting
a domino effect, with several other countries following, including
Australia and England.

Anyway, none of that compares with the upcoming pole shift.

You see, those guys holding the signs
Repent! Repent! The End is Nigh
really do know what they are ranting about.

The day after Christmas is when it all begins.

Starting in Mecca, running through the southern tip of India, and
ending in the Philippines, will be a total eclipse of the sun. This
is the sign all Muslims have been waiting for since the time of their
Holy Prophet. What am I talking about? The appearance of the Mahdi.
The eclipse runs through the Muslim lands notifying all of whom they
have been waiting for has arrived to make his appearance.

After the eclipse, the Mahdi makes his appearance, with Isa (Jesus)
at his side, to lead all true believers against the Dajjal (devil)
and his brethren (infidels).

Then comes Judgment Day (pole shift) when all are damned.

To escape these things, you will have to flee to the new north pole.
Or to the new south pole. Before (not after) the upcoming pole shift.

The new north pole is clearly marked on the map as Polo Norte,
in Brazil. This is in the middle of the tropical forest, near
where the Amazon River begins (not ends). I hope you do speak
Portuguese. Not many folks in those parts speak anything else.

The new south pole is located in open water, where the Spratly
Islands are. The islands are uninhabitable, being rocks with no
vegetation. But China is building lots of artificial islands
there, and manning them with armed scientists who are studying
the fish that swim in the sea.

Australia will be more like Lapland without the reindeer
once this pole shift happens. So please. Enjoy the warm
weather while you still can.

Meanwhile, Bj”rn will be enjoying life on the equator ...

--Lee

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Hello Nick,

It's just natural and we cannot do anything about it. That it's O>men made

is just a lie created by some liberal democrats or O>something like this ...

Lol! Oh so we're on to THIS nonsense now, "climate change". I'll admit

its a

much more entertaining whine-fest topic from you than Fido politics.

Sad. Truly sad. The upcoming pole shift takes place the day
after Christmas and folks are still believing the same old nonsense
called "climate change".

Find a globe. Locate a country called Brazil. Go to where the
Amazon River begins, not where it ends. There is a town called
Polo Norte, which is the location of the new north pole.

Brazilians are flocking to this location, as they know what is
soon to take place. Remember, Polo Norte is Portuguese for North
Pole. After the pole shift, whoever owns the poles will control
the world. Brazilians want to make sure they own what is already
on their own land.

On the opposite side of the globe is the Spratly Islands. These
islands are uninhabited, as they are mere rocks in the middle of
nowhere. But the Chinese are building many artificial islands
in that area, claiming the entire area as being part of China.

I do hope and pray you can speak Portuguese. Or Chinese.
I doubt English, or French, will do you much good in the new
world order that is almost here.

--Lee

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Hello Oli,

Australia is going through a warm patch. It was 45C (113F) here DD>today

- and is supposed to warm up even more later in the week.

It's just natural and we cannot do anything about it. That it's men made

is

just a lie created by some liberal democrats or something like this ...

The truth is out there.

We are about to experience another pole shift. These things are not
everyday occurrences, so please forgive those who have forgotten our
own past. After all, it has been some 12,000+ years since the last
time such an event of this magnitude took place.

However, do not despair. We know where the new north pole will be.
And also where the new south pole will be. That means we can prepare
for the future.

Find a globe. Notice where the north pole is. And notice where
the south pole is. The north pole is at the top, and the south pole
is at the bottom.

The new north pole was found a good many years ago, but nobody
advertised it, which is why it has remained hidden from sight all
these years. But it is there. And clearly marked. On that same
globe I told you to find.

Try to locate a country named Brazil. Then find the Amazon River.
Go to where it begins, near the border with Peru. There is a town
called Polo Norte. That is Portuguese for "North Pole".

Lots of Brazilians are flocking to Polo Norte, resettling there
rather than remaining on the coast or in Rio where all the parties
are held. This also explains why so many Brazilian farmers are
burning down the rain forest, needing the land to build their new
houses.

The new south pole is on the opposite side of where the new north
pole will be. If you take your globe and poke a stick through it,
beginning at Polo Norte, it will come out the other end at the
middle of the Spratly Islands, an area located between Vietnam and
Indonesia, which is mostly open water.

The Chinese are building artificial islands in that area, calling
the entire area part of China itself.

Those who own the poles will own the new world. That is why Brazil
and China will be the new kings of this place we call Earth.

This all happens the day after Christmas.

Have a good one.

--Lee

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Hello Paul!

** 18.12.19 - 08:23, Paul Quinn wrote to David Drummond:

Everything I touch is colder than me now. No fans 'on' since yesterday
arvo, and I had to sleep under a light blanket when I woke /frozen/ at
02:30 this AM (21C official, but I reckon it was cooler).

21C is "frozen" for you? Sheesh! Try -21C.

This is what's happening HERE (Ontario, Canada) right now:

18 December 2019
21:00 -21 (-21.0)
20:00 -20 (-20.1)
19:00 -18 (-18.2)
18:00 -17 (-17.4)
17:00 -16 (-16.0)
16:00 -14 (-14.3)
15:00 -13 (-13.3)
14:00 -13 (-13.2)
13:00 -13 (-12.8)
12:00 -12 (-11.5)
11:00 -10 (-10.3)
10:00 -10 (-9.9)

And it's only 17C inside the house. :(



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On 19 Dec 19 02:03:38, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

I do hope and pray you can speak Portuguese. Or Chinese.
I doubt English, or French, will do you much good in the new
world order that is almost here.

LOL, lay off the booze there Bjorn. New world order... You mean the world
where Al gore who claimed once that Manhattan would be underwater come 2010?
Or any number of climate-change "activists" and Hollywood celebrities who fly around the world first-class in private jets and live in mansions?

Its nice to see that silly young leader Greta of the climate-change-hysteria movement really being true to her angry self with wanting to put politicians "Up against the wall" and enjoying first-class train rides home. After all
its tough being a kid, definately exhausting being angry all the time.

Just like "global warming" which proceeded "climate change"... because the former euphanism didn't attract enough panic. And before global warming, it
was the Amazon rain forests. And before that, the polar bears, the whales,
acid rain, radeon gas, Aerosol cans and the ozone layer... etc etc...

And all of this was proceeded by something in the early 80's I remember as a young boy called "Global cooling". If we don't do something about global cooling, the earth will be frozen over by the mid to late 1990's.

So which is it? Frozen planet doomsday nonsense of the 80's, Hot-as-hell planet doomsday nonsense of the 90's or present day planet doomsday
"climate change" big sad-kitty-meme nonsense. Hard to decide which is funnier.

Environmental responsibility is one thing. Misguided hysteria is not a thing.

Nick

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Hi! August,

On 18 Dec 19 21:36, you wrote to me:

And it's only 17C inside the house. :(

Right, yeah. Your houses are built for it. You are built for it.

It ain't so here. I woke at ~0300 this AM to find the temp had transitioned down to 20C. I could feel a breeze flowing from the kitchen, through the lounge and out through the bathroom louvres. (Windows never get closed here.)
I had to get up and grabbed a flannel shirt this time, and checked my Fido machines and mail. Then I hit the sack again.

We're built for summer: houses & folks. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 06:23:53 GMT
"David Drummond -> Oli" <0@305.640.3> wrote:

On 17/12/2019 18:55, 2280/464.47 wrote:

Australia is going through a warm patch. It was 45C (113F)

here today

- and is supposed to warm up even more later in the

week.

It's just natural and we cannot do anything about it. That it's
men made is just a lie created by some liberal democrats or
something like this ...

It's still uncomfortably warm.

I find 35°C unbearable, I can only imagine ...

Do you honestly believe that all of the shit mankind pumps into the
air, and all of the land we cover in cement/buildings is NOT
affecting the environment?

No, I don't doubt the science. It was just a poor attempt to emulate a global warming denier.

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On the opposite side of the globe is the Spratly Islands. These
islands are uninhabited, as they are mere rocks in the middle of
nowhere. But the Chinese are building many artificial islands
in that area, claiming the entire area as being part of China.

The Japanese have built a flagpole in the middle of the sea somewhere on an underwater rock. As the pole sticks above the water, they are claiming a 200NM EEZ around it.

Then I think the Russians sawed it off.

Then, I think, the Japanese built a concrete mound on that rock sticking out above the water and put a flag on it.

More interesting even. The Chileans once airlifted a very pregnant young lady to Teniente R. Marsh Airport on Antarctica and had her deliver her baby there so that "Location of birth:" would be "Villa Las Estrellas", the only civilian settlement on the continent thereby re-inforcing Chile's claims to mineral-rich territories. The kid's name? Juan Pablo Camacho Martino, So far, a total of three people have been born in the Chilean Bases but after signing the Antarctic minerals treaty this practice became obsolete.

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Hello Andre,

I do hope and pray you can speak Portuguese. Or Chinese.
I doubt English, or French, will do you much good in the new
world order that is almost here.

LOL, lay off the booze there Bjorn. New world order... You mean the world where Al gore who claimed once that Manhattan would be underwater come

2010?

Or any number of climate-change "activists" and Hollywood celebrities who fly
around the world first-class in private jets and live in mansions?

Greta Thunberg had front-row seats at the Vatican. You know what
that means? She got to kiss the pope's hand! Imagine that! Used
her thumb to hitch a ride on a sailboat to America, then return to
Europe and be proclaimed a saint! By Pope Francis himself!

I kid you not. You understand I never lie. Just like Pinocchio.
In April she traveled to Rome, where she had baciamano tickets to
Pope Francis's general audience. Front row and got to kiss his
hand. And let me tell you, he kissed her back. Of course, only
me and Fabio know that, since we are the only folks in Fidonet
who speak Italian. You see, `baciamo' means "kiss the hand" -
as every Italian-speaking believer knows.

Greta Thunberg and Pope Francis have one thing in common - Both have
been named TIME magazine's "Person of the Year". Vatican officials are
raving about this, and are hoping more young people like her take up
the cause to save our planet. That is why she is being proclaimed
a living saint.

Its nice to see that silly young leader Greta of the

climate-change-hysteria

movement really being true to her angry self with wanting to put

politicians

"Up against the wall" and enjoying first-class train rides home. After

all

its tough being a kid, definately exhausting being angry all the time.

Al Gore does not think it is silly. Pope Francis does not think it
is silly. TIME magazine does not think it is silly. Greta herself
does not think it is silly.

You claim she is angry. And maybe she is. Do you also claim that
Al Gore is angry? Or even Pope Francis? In my opinion, every person
on this planet should be angry. Angry that nothing is being done by
anybody of importance about climate change.

Here is some of what Greta Thunberg has said on the subject -

"Rich countries need to do their fair share and get down to real
zero emissions much faster and then help poorer countries do the
same so peope in less fortunate parts of the world can help solve
their living standards. Tell me how do you react to these numbers
without feeling at least some level of pain?"

Greta is talking to you ...

"How do you respond to the fact that basically nothing is being done
about this without feeling the slightest bit of anger and how do you communicate this without sounding alarmist? I would really like to
know."

Please. Answer her question(s). If you dare.

I see first hand what is happening every day. The land is sinking
and the water is rising. Within the next twenty years, the land where
I grew up will be no more. It will all be under water. Much of it
already is. All this due to climate change.

Sure sounds to me that Greta is angry, given her own words, publicly
stated. This is not just angry emotional response, with no particular
target, but anger expressed at those who are causing the most harm.
She points her finger squarely at business and political leaders for
what she calls "clever accounting and creative PR" instead of doing
anything real to combat climate change, saying, "We indeed have some
work to do but some more than others."

See there? She blames herself (and others like her) for not doing
enough, but especially those who could and should do more. Far more.

Just like "global warming" which proceeded "climate change"... because

the

former euphanism didn't attract enough panic. And before global warming,

it

was the Amazon rain forests. And before that, the polar bears, the

whales,

acid rain, radeon gas, Aerosol cans and the ozone layer... etc etc...

Climate change did not just happen. There had to be a trigger to
make it happen. That trigger is the upcoming pole shift. Of course,
the process is not yet complete. But it soon will be.

Scientists (and some politicians) are blaming it on climate change.
But that is a cover up from what is really happening. There is good
reason for this, as it would cause quite a panic if word got out
the end of the world is coming due to a future pole shift in which
very few people (if any) would survive. I mean, you are talking
about a true EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT here ...

And all of this was proceeded by something in the early 80's I remember

as a

young boy called "Global cooling". If we don't do something about global cooling, the earth will be frozen over by the mid to late 1990's.

The earth has never been "frozen over". The earth has undergone
a series of pole shifts. Every 13,000 years or so there is a pole
shift, and the ice caps that exist melt away as new ice caps are
made.

It is a process. The magnetic north pole moves from Canada to
Siberia. Then other things happen. The last part is when the actual
poles shift.

Brazil (near the beginning of the Amazon river) will be the new
north pole. The Spratley Islands (between Vietnam and Palawan in
the Philippines) will be the new south pole.

Wrap your head around that. And think about what things will be
like where you live now once that happens.

So which is it? Frozen planet doomsday nonsense of the 80's, Hot-as-hell planet doomsday nonsense of the 90's or present day planet doomsday "climate change" big sad-kitty-meme nonsense. Hard to decide which is funnier.

I live in the swamp. Within the next twenty years, probably far
sooner, it will all be open water. In which case the only place I
will have for a home will be my pirogue. That is what will happen
if the upcoming pole shift is a dud.

Once the pole shift happens, a giant tsunami will wipe out the
swamp and I will most likely not survive. In which case I might
never get the opportunity to become a full-fledged Fidonet sysop.

This event is expected to happen December 28, 2019, having begun
the Winter Solstice (December 21, 2019). OTOH, Nostradamus gives
us all more time, until October 2029.

Let's all pray he is right.

Environmental responsibility is one thing. Misguided hysteria is not a thing.

Nobody can stop the upcoming pole shift from happening.
Which means we are doomed. All doomed. Doomed, I tell you.
Doomed. Sooner, or later, we are all doomed.

--Lee

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On 22 Dec 19 18:07:36, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

Al Gore does not think it is silly. Pope Francis does not think it
is silly. TIME magazine does not think it is silly. Greta herself
does not think it is silly.

True environmentalism will always take a back-seat to hysterics, dramatics, celebrities, sensational nonsense. Time magazine also put Trump and Hitler on the front cover... but I know you will overlook that little factoid.

Tell me genious, what are Greta's scientific credentials again? I see her dramatic credentials on full display. Her showbiz parents taught her well. All of that acting made her so tired, her and her entourage had to travel first-class on a German train back home; but complain it was crowded.

Your amusing unfounded nonsense about the poles shifting is nowhere near amusing that the earth was supposed to be completely frozen-over, as per the doomsday prediction of the early 80's. Or by 2020 global warming of the 90's was going to put the coastal cities underwater. Most of this was Al Gore-initiated nonsense. Al Gore also said Trump would never be president.

For every silly climate hysteria of the day, theres always a pre-set doomsday period of about 10 years, 20, maybe 30. Just enough time for the hysterics to be long gone or moved on before anyone notices they've been climate-duped.

Nick

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Hello Nick!

22 Dec 19 13:49, Nick Andre wrote to Lee Lofaso:

of that acting made her so tired, her and her entourage had to travel first-class on a German train back home; but complain it was crowded.

From which alternate reality exactly did you get this "news"?


Regards,
Gerrit

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of that acting made her so tired, her and her entourage had to travel
first-class on a German train back home; but complain it was crowded.

From which alternate reality exactly did you get this "news"?

That's a no-brainer. From the same reality where he found out everything else about "angry teenager" Greta: He's a Trumpster!



..

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On 22 Dec 19 20:00:02, Gerrit Kuehn said the following to Nick Andre:

of that acting made her so tired, her and her entourage had to travel first-class on a German train back home; but complain it was crowded.

From which alternate reality exactly did you get this "news"?

From quite a few alternate reality sites actually:

https://www.dw.com/en/greta-thunbergs-trip-home-on-a-crowded-german-train/a-51 677609

https://nypost.com/2019/12/15/german-railway-claims-greta-thunberg-lied-about- taking-first-class/

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/15/greta-thunberg-in-twitter- spat-with-german-rail-firm

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/15/europe/greta-thunberg-german-train-trnd/index.h tml

https://www.dailywire.com/news/greta-thunberg-trolled-by-german-transportation -officials-after-complaining-of-crowded-trains

https://apnews.com/cb108a073804157dcff8e5668cdd25d8

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-15/going-home-thunberg-stuck-o n-floor-of-crowded-german-train

Other alternate-reality sites are largely quoting the same thing.

Nick

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On 23 Dec 19 03:04:13, Bj*Rn Felten said the following to Gerrit Kuehn:

of that acting made her so tired, her and her entourage had to

travel

first-class on a German train back home; but complain it was

crowded.

From which alternate reality exactly did you get this "news"?

That's a no-brainer. From the same reality where he found out

everything

else about "angry teenager" Greta: He's a Trumpster!

Your angry darling teenager is all over various alternate reality sites, including your beloved CNN, New York Post, Associated Press, etc... all of the alternate reality sites you loved to quote when you were here bashing Bush
many years ago.

I'm not American, incase you are not sober enough to remember.

Nick

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On Dec 23, 2019 03:03am, Bj”rn Felten wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

of that acting made her so tired, her and her entourage had to travel
first-class on a German train back home; but complain it was crowded.

From which alternate reality exactly did you get this "news"?

That's a no-brainer. From the same reality where he found out
everything else about "angry teenager" Greta: He's a Trumpster!

Do a goole seach on "greta thunberg first class" and the hundreds of left and right wing news feeds say the same thing that she rode first class and was outed by the German rail company.

Terry

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I'm not American, incase you are not sober enough to remember.

So, what continent are you living on, then?



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Do a goole seach

How do I do that?




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Hello Nick!

22 Dec 19 21:46, Nick Andre wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

Other alternate-reality sites are largely quoting the same thing.

Yeah, maybe you should look for some updated reports after the initial storm was over. During bad weather your sight is always a bit... limited.

The original twitter post was absolutely correct and did not contain any complaints against Deutsche Bahn (German Rail). The train with the booked seats was cancelled, and the train used instead was overcrowded. No surprise for anyone who travelled with DB during the last years, this happens all too frequently (maybe because the government turned DB into a private company supposed to make profit, who knows?).

However, the press department of DB managed to turn this into an epic PR desaster by patronizing and claims about the reserved 1st class seats, making it even look as if the photo posted with the first tweet was staged.
Actually, Greta and parts of her entourage simply got seats after changing trains somewhere in the middle of Germany.
Fun fact: As DB PR managed to insist on their view (showing that they didn't know about their own schedule and cancellations), they made various travel data available via twitter that are covered by data protection laws, and now they have the data protection officers at their heels.

All this is easily found on German news sites like here: https://www.spiegel.de/lebenundlernen/schule/greta-thunberg-und-die-deutsche-b ahn-wie-kann-man-das-so-verbocken-a-1301413.html


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Terry!

23 Dec 19 12:46, Terry Roati wrote to Björn Felten:

Do a goole seach on "greta thunberg first class" and the hundreds of
left and
right wing news feeds say the same thing that she rode first class
and was
outed by the German rail company.

And this turned out to be a full-scale PR-desaster of Deutsche Bahn... just read some /later/ news after the dust setteled. I bet your news outlets didn't bother to continue the story.


Regards,
Gerrit

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On Dec 23, 2019 10:31am, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Terry Roati:

And this turned out to be a full-scale PR-desaster of Deutsche Bahn... just read some /later/ news after the dust setteled. I bet your news outlets didn't bother to continue the story.

It seemed none of the english speaking news outlets were updated including all the main outlets.

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Do a goole seach on "greta thunberg first class" and the hundreds of left and right wing news feeds say the same thing that she rode first class
and was outed by the German rail company.

That story has been distorted and re-hashed a couple of times.

She (and her dad) went home by train and after a cancelled connection had no seat on the alternative.

The train-conductor recognized them and offered them unoccupied seats in the first class section. End of story ... but that story got a life of its own.

I consider it a non-event and just a Deutsche Bahn PR disaster..

It's a bit like in aviation and the overbooking of airplanes. People who are overbooked and have no seat will eventually be accomodated in First or Business. Have seen it happening all the time. First the frequent flyers get upgraded and if that is not enough to create space in coach-class, then the last-minute fares get to dine on real china.

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Hello Terry!

23 Dec 19 21:04, Terry Roati wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

And this turned out to be a full-scale PR-desaster of Deutsche
Bahn... just read some /later/ news after the dust setteled. I bet
your news outlets didn't bother to continue the story.

It seemed none of the english speaking news outlets were updated including all the main outlets.

That's what I already guessed. This is exactly how "urban legends" are made...


Regards,
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It seemed none of the english speaking news outlets were updated
including all the main outlets.

That's what I already guessed. This is exactly how "urban legends" are made...

LOL! If it's not reported by the US media it's just fake news? 8-)


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On Dec 23, 2019 12:31pm, Ward Dossche wrote to Terry Roati:

It's a bit like in aviation and the overbooking of airplanes. People
who are overbooked and have no seat will eventually be accomodated in First or Business. Have seen it happening all the time. First the
frequent flyers get upgraded and if that is not enough to create space
in coach-class, then the last-minute fares get to dine on real china.

Yep know what you mean, as when I was still working I managed to get an upgrade to first class on Emirates from Rio to Dubai, as it was holidays the company had to book me business but with all my travel my FF gold got me the upgrade. It was different but business is more than enough.

Just goes to show how selective with stories the press can be and give people the wrong impression. The ABC in Australia is quite left and generally posts the most news compared to the opposition but it's not always accurate.

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On Dec 23, 2019 12:52pm, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Terry Roati:

That's what I already guessed. This is exactly how "urban legends" are made...

Thanks for the update, it seems the accuracy of reporting is dropping, I can see it with the ABC being our main Australian news outlet.

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Hello Bj”rn,

It seemed none of the english speaking news outlets were updated
including all the main outlets.

That's what I already guessed. This is exactly how "urban legends" are
made...

LOL! If it's not reported by the US media it's just fake news? 8-)

Correction -

If it's not reported by US President Donald Trump it's just fake news.

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Hello Nick,

Al Gore does not think it is silly. Pope Francis does not think it
is silly. TIME magazine does not think it is silly. Greta herself
does not think it is silly.

True environmentalism will always take a back-seat to hysterics,

dramatics,

celebrities, sensational nonsense. Time magazine also put Trump and

Hitler

on
the front cover... but I know you will overlook that little factoid.

I was being kind, as the list also includes Joe Stalin, Ayatollah
Khomeini, and Vladimir Putin. Along with Richard Nixon and few other
despots of note.

Tell me genious, what are Greta's scientific credentials again? I see her dramatic credentials on full display. Her showbiz parents taught her

well.

Lessons learned from The Orange One, via Twitter.

Greta Thunberg @GretaThunberg
ú
Dec 22

Not even catastrophes like these seem to bring any political action.
How is this possible? Because we still fail to make the connection
between the climate crisis and increased extreme weather events and
nature disasters like the #AustraliaFires


That's what has to change.
Now.


Quote Tweet
Nine News Sydney
@9NewsSyd

All of that acting made her so tired, her and her entourage had to travel first-class on a German train back home; but complain it was crowded.

That is not acting, but writing at its finest. Done all by herself.

Your amusing unfounded nonsense about the poles shifting is nowhere near amusing that the earth was supposed to be completely frozen-over, as per the doomsday prediction of the early 80's.

Oh, come now. You do not honestly believe that stuff, do you?
This planet has never been "frozen over" as per your claim. Not
since intelligent life has existed, anyway.

Mankind has a collective memory of no more than 12,000 to 13,000
years. If the planet had ever been "frozen over" during mankind's
existence, there would be no mankind. Nor would there be any other
animal life. Maybe a few microbes in the sea, assuming a portion
was not "frozen over". But that's about it.

We all know that mankind has been around for more than 13,000 years.
That means your little theory about some kind of a "frozen earth"
is total nonsense. There is, and never was, any such thing as an
"ice age".

Or by 2020 global warming of the 90's was going to put the coastal cities underwater. Most of this was Al Gore-initiated nonsense. Al Gore also

said

Trump would never be president.

Al Gore is not psychic. I do not claim to be psychic, although
there may be some folks in the world who truly are. However, none
of this is dependent on whether one is or is not psychic.

The idea of the ice caps expanding and retreating is nonsense.
What is really happening is something else. The planet is losing
it's magnetism, as the magnetic poles are shifting from one place
to another. This will cause an axial shift, as well as the crust
shifting or re-aligning.

For every silly climate hysteria of the day, theres always a pre-set doomsday period of about 10 years, 20, maybe 30. Just enough time for the hysterics to be long gone or moved on before anyone notices they've been climate-duped.

Oh, you and others will definitely notice when this pole shift
happens ...

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Hello Bj”rn,

of that acting made her so tired, her and her entourage had to travel
first-class on a German train back home; but complain it was crowded.

From which alternate reality exactly did you get this "news"?

That's a no-brainer. From the same reality where he found out everything else about "angry teenager" Greta: He's a Trumpster!

Nothing will change in the US and elsewhere until we get rid the
vile and stupid Trump types!!

Oh yeah? Let's see what Greta has to say about *that*!

twitter dee twitter dum ...

Greta Thunberg @GretaThunberg
ú
Dec 22

Not even catastrophes like these seem to bring any political action.
How is this possible? Because we still fail to make the connection
between the climate crisis and increased extreme weather events and
nature disasters like the #AustraliaFires


That's what has to change.
Now.


Quote Tweet
Nine News Sydney
@9NewsSyd


'nuff said?

--Lee

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Hello Ward,

On the opposite side of the globe is the Spratly Islands. These
islands are uninhabited, as they are mere rocks in the middle of
nowhere. But the Chinese are building many artificial islands
in that area, claiming the entire area as being part of China.

The Japanese have built a flagpole in the middle of the sea somewhere on

an

underwater rock. As the pole sticks above the water, they are claiming a 200NM EEZ around it.

The Americans claim to have planted several US flags on the surface
of the Moon, on barren rock in the middle of nowhere, claiming it all
as their own.

Then I think the Russians sawed it off.

Russians claim the Moon is a spaceship, based on NASA evidence.

Then, I think, the Japanese built a concrete mound on that rock sticking

out

above the water and put a flag on it.

Sicilians wear cement shoes when they dive into a body of water,
never needing to come up again for air.

More interesting even. The Chileans once airlifted a very pregnant young lady to Teniente R. Marsh Airport on Antarctica and had her deliver her baby there so that "Location of birth:" would be "Villa Las Estrellas",

the

only civilian settlement on the continent thereby re-inforcing Chile's claims to mineral-rich territories. The kid's name? Juan Pablo Camacho Martino, So far, a total of three people have been born in the Chilean Bases but after signing the Antarctic minerals treaty this practice

became

obsolete.

But has anybody ever had sex in space? NASA did send a married
couple on board a mission on the space shuttle. But would neither
confirm nor deny if the couple did anything beyond their duties.

Which brings up the question as to how a couple has sex in space.
Being in a weightless environment, it seems like a couple would
need some help in order to fully achieve the desired outcome ...

--Lee

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On Mon 23-Dec-2019 3:04a, Bj”rn Felten@2:203/2.0 said to Gerrit Kuehn:

of that acting made her so tired, her and her entourage had to

travel

first-class on a German train back home; but complain it was

crowded.

From which alternate reality exactly did you get this "news"?

That's a no-brainer. From the same reality where he found out
everything
else about "angry teenager" Greta: He's a Trumpster!

Rather be a Trumpster than a DuMpStEr....

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On 23/12/2019 15:19, 2203/2 wrote:
 NA>> I'm not American, incase you are not sober enough to remember.

   So, what continent are you living on, then?

ROFL - I thought that was my band wagon (I wonder if that translates).

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On 24 Dec 19 04:10:58, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

For every silly climate hysteria of the day, theres always a pre-set doomsday period of about 10 years, 20, maybe 30. Just enough time for hysterics to be long gone or moved on before anyone notices they've

be

climate-duped.

Oh, you and others will definitely notice when this pole shift
happens ...

It must be exhausting mentally and physically to be you.

Nick

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On 11 Jan 20 10:19:14, Gerrit Kuehn said the following to Nick Andre:

Nope, my worries are about humans. However, not too accidentally these

depe

on the planet being in more or less the state it is in now. And if you recommend me to stay in bed for not causing any trouble to the planet,

I'll

take your reasoning above (we'll all be departed in some future) to ask

you

why you don't depart just now.

Yawn.

Nick

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Nick Andre wrote to Gerrit Kuehn <=-

On 11 Jan 20 10:19:14, Gerrit Kuehn said the following to Nick
Andre:

Nope, my worries are about humans. However, not too accidentally these

depe

on the planet being in more or less the state it is in now. And if you recommend me to stay in bed for not causing any trouble to the planet,

I'll

take your reasoning above (we'll all be departed in some future) to ask

you

why you don't depart just now.

Yawn.

You beat me to it.

This guy's nearly as bad as the main troll.


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Hello Nick!

11 Jan 20 09:51, Nick Andre wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

Yawn.

You don't have to emphasize your big mouth, it was already obvious. However, I thought there was more behind it that than whining about other people not being as mindless as you'd wish. Well, obviously anyone can make mistakes.


Regards,
Gerrit

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11 Jan 20 10:52, you wrote to Nick Andre:

Yawn.

You beat me to it.

This guy's nearly as bad as the main troll.

How do you spot trolls in Fidonews?

They are the guys who constantly blabbering about trolls.

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Oli wrote to Dan Clough <=-

This guy's nearly as bad as the main troll.

How do you spot trolls in Fidonews?
They are the guys who constantly blabbering about trolls.

I haven't posted in here in several months. Yet somehow you think
I'm "constantly blabbering" about trolls? Are you high on crack,
or drunk?

Run along and play in traffic, boy.



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Hello Dan!

11 Jan 20 10:52, Dan Clough wrote to Nick Andre:

This guy's nearly as bad as the main troll.

From you, I'll certainly take this as an accolade. ;)


Regards,
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Hello David,

be long gone or moved on before anyone notices they've been

climate-duped.

Nick

Thanks Nick, couldn't have said it better myself. :-)

When in doubt, follow the money ...

The fact that someone is trying to make money out of something does not

stop

that something from existing.

When is making money more important than people's lives?

In south Louisiana, we see climate change every day. The
land is sinking and the water is rising. Places that existed
just a few years ago no longer exist today. Including many
parts of the swamp, which now is open water with no land around
to build anything so much as even a shack.

I can no longer go hunting and trapping in those parts.
No animals around as it is now all open water. And the
fishing is just as bad, unless you really know where and
how to get where you want to go.

Oil companies have built a pipeline through the Atchafalaya
Basin. A few leaks have already happened, although nothing yet
on a grand scale. The Atchafalaya Basin is a swamp 50 miles
wide and 150 miles long. Much bigger place than where Pogo
grew up, making the Okefenokee Swamp look small.

You think the BP disaster in the Gulf of Mexico was bad?
You ain't seen nothin' yet. A spill in the Atchafalaya Basin
would be impossible to clean up. An environmental disaster
on a global scale, so huge as to be unimagineable. And yet
it will happen. With no company being punished for its own
recklessness and irresponsibility.

Oil companies have built canals through the swamps so they
can get to their oil wells more efficiently. The canals destroy
land and vegetation that is needed to keep the water at bay.
Over half of the land that existed when I was a kid no longer
exist. Within 20 to 30 years, there will be no longer any
land, except perhaps 10 percent of what once was.

By the year 2050, if not sooner, the city of New Orleans
will no longer exist. The same with the city of Miami. And
many other coastal cities.

Climate change is real. Very real. Especially for those
who are experiencing it, in real time.

California is burning. So is Australia. How many animals
have been lost in those fires? Well over a billion. And yet,
there are those who still claim climate change is all a hoax.

May kangaroos RIP.
May koalas RIP.

The animals of this world deserve better.

--Lee

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On 12/01/2020 08:45, 2203/2 wrote:

Hello David,

 NA>>>>> be long gone or moved on before anyone notices they've been

; climate-duped.

 NA>>>>> Nick

; Thanks Nick, couldn't have said it better myself. :-)

 LL>>> When in doubt, follow the money ...

 DD>> The fact that someone is trying to make money out of something does not stop
 DD>> that something from existing.

When is making money more important than people's lives?

From observing modern business I would suggest "always".
[...]

California is burning.  So is Australia.

I have noticed that.

How many animals > have been lost in those fires?  Well over a

billion.  And yet,

there are those who still claim climate change is all a hoax.

Especially if someone is making a dollar from it.

There is always someone trying to cash in from a situation, be that situation good or bad.

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On 11 Jan 20 15:07:00, Dan Clough said the following to Oli:

How do you spot trolls in Fidonews?
They are the guys who constantly blabbering about trolls.

I haven't posted in here in several months. Yet somehow you think
I'm "constantly blabbering" about trolls? Are you high on crack,
or drunk?

He's a weird one. He tried to start some douchebaggery shit with me in Fsxnet not too long ago and I recall politely telling him to F right off.

Nick

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On 11 Jan 20 18:51:17, Oli said the following to Dan Clough:

How do you spot trolls in Fidonews?

They are the guys who constantly blabbering about trolls.

Its amusing to me that you like to blabber on and insult me while
the host-system of your point address has enjoyed a direct connection with my system for quite some time... and is very smiley-polite whenever he wants something. And oh how he just can't wait to grab new ZC1 echoes I conjure up.

So every time he polls here, you are by close association, kissing my ass. I get my ass kissed from a few others such as yourself but theres something very special to me about having your host directly supplying you my ass to kiss.

And he polls here several times a day...

Nick

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12 Jan 20 02:28, you wrote to me:

On 11 Jan 20 18:51:17, Oli said the following to Dan Clough:

How do you spot trolls in Fidonews?

They are the guys who constantly blabbering about trolls.

Its amusing to me that you like to blabber on and insult me
while the host-system of your point address has enjoyed a direct connection with my system for quite some time... and is very
smiley-polite whenever he wants something. And oh how he just
can't wait to grab new ZC1 echoes I conjure up.

So every time he polls here, you are by close association,
kissing my ass. I get my ass kissed from a few others such as
yourself but theres something very special to me about having
your host directly supplying you my ass to kiss.

And he polls here several times a day...

Nick

the ZC1 has spoken ...


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Re: Climate change?
By: Oli to Nick Andre on Sun Jan 12 2020 09:14:15

And he polls here several times a day...

Nick

the ZC1 has spoken ...

i see no sign of the Z1C hat in nick's every day posts... without the hat being worn, he is talking as a regular sysop just like you and i... when he posts as Z1C, it is immediately apparent by the indication of the hat being worn...


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David Drummond wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

There is always someone trying to cash in from a situation, be
that situation good or bad.

In the USA we call those people "Democrats".



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David Drummond wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

 DD>> There is always someone trying to cash in from a situation, be
 DD>> that situation good or bad.

In the USA we call those people "Democrats".

Oh? Is Trump a Democrat?

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Hello David,

be long gone or moved on before anyone notices they've been

climate-duped.

Nick

Thanks Nick, couldn't have said it better myself. :-)

When in doubt, follow the money ...

The fact that someone is trying to make money out of something does not

stop

that something from existing.

When is making money more important than people's lives?

From observing modern business I would suggest "always".

"Springtime for Hitler, and you and me ..."

Mel Brooks. Such a card. Gotta love him. :)

Of course, that was only a movie. People would never do that
in real life. Or would they?

If you want to make money, you have to spend money. Preferably
somebody else's money. That is the way it works. In real life,
anyway.

California is burning.ÿ So is Australia.

I have noticed that.

Venice is sinking. Did you also notice that?

How many animals > have been lost in those fires?ÿ Well over a billion.ÿ

And yet,

there are those who still claim climate change is all a hoax.

Especially if someone is making a dollar from it.

What happens to all those dead animals? Do people get to skin
them so they can have stuff to sell, such as wallets and coats and
whatever else can be made?

There is always someone trying to cash in from a situation, be that situation good or bad.

In Louisiana, the law requires folks to hire a funeral director
in order to get rid of a corpse. Not sure if any other state has
such an absurd law. But at least the monks won their case to sell
pine caskets they made at their monastery. Took an act by the
legislature, to pass a law giving them that right.

--Lee

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Hello David,

There is always someone trying to cash in from a situation, be
that situation good or bad.

In the USA we call those people "Democrats".

Oh? Is Trump a Democrat?

The Orange One claims he is the second coming of God.
If that is so, then I sure would hate to meet his Mother.

--Lee

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On 01-07-20, WARD DOSSCHE said to NICK ANDRE:

Nick,

Doesn't address the fact that every decade you chicken-little nutcases conjure up another hysterical claim that the world will end in the
coming decades.

Climate Change "is" happening. The scientific proof "is" there ... it's WD>not just a theory or a bible-humping group calling for the end of the WD>world.

Reality check:


The `climate' of the Earth has changed many many times in its 4 BILLION year history!

"Science", Nick, not just some "chicken-little nutcases" but thousands of WD>the world's finest and most learned.

`Finest and most learned'! Like a girl who's barely in her teens....with an empty look on her face....telling adults all about the `climate'!

The climates are changing, we just don't know the rate yet and whether it WD>will be real-bad, bad-bad or just bad ... one thing is certain: it's not WD>going to be good.

These empty pronouncements have gained `study groups' at universities millions upon millions of `research' dollars for many years! (Notice you don't hear about the East Anglia Climate Research Unit lately?)


How many taxpayer dollars have funded whole careers in the `climate change' scam can only be imagined.

The world will end, one day, not because of the climate but because the WD>sun will end in a super-nova.

No...it won't!


The Sun isn't close to the amount of solar mass it takes to cause a star to even go nova....much less `super' nova.


When the time comes for the Sun to go through its end-life it will swell into
a red giant. After its red giant stage, it will collapse into a small white dwarf.


When it goes into its red giant stage it will swell out to engulf Mercury, Venus, and maybe even Earth.


Right now the Sun is considered a `yellow dwarf'; a `G' type star.





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On 01-09-20, NICK ANDRE said to GERRIT KUEHN:

On 09 Jan 20 21:08:34, Gerrit Kuehn said the following to Nick Andre:

Warmer not only in front of your door, but on average, worldwide. With a

cl GK> trend that will probably continue. Maybe you would be more NA>concerned if you GK> could already see the sea from your door, or if you

could see the bushfires Now see, *THIS* is exactly the sort of nutjob NA>doomsday nonsense I'm talking about. Seeing the sea from my door or NA>bushfires based on a trend that will "probably" continue. LOL!!! Thanks

for the laugh. Do you know where I live? Which such climate-change NA>disasters on the horizon, why bother getting out of bed to do anything?

Here's a good one......


Many years ago I lived near a desert town in Arizona called `Dragoon'.


It's in eastern Arizona about 70 miles above Mexico and around 40 miles from the New Mexico border.


The Apache Cochise had one of his strongholds just south of there.


When I first started living there I spent a lot of time wandering around on
the desert. There are lots of `dry washes' all over the place. And although
the term `dry wash' sounds rather benign....it isn't!


Because at certain times of the year...without warning a mass of water can appear and `wash' everything or `body' away in a flash! It can be unreal at times!


Something I noticed almost right away in my meanderings on the desert;


Here and there you come across pieces of rock with imprints of sea shells embedded on them. Or even petrified sea shells laying about in the sand.


Now Dragoon Arizona is around 650 miles from any ocean, and around five or six thousand feet above sea level.


Which raises the question: How did ancient fossilized sea shells and imprints of small sea creatures come to be there?


The only answer that suggests itself is that, at one time, this area was covered with ocean.


When?


Probably back so long ago Humankind has no memory of it.





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On 01-11-20, DAVID DRUMMOND said to LEE LOFASO:

On 7/01/2020 13:40, 2203/2 wrote:

-áNA>>> be long gone or moved on before anyone notices they've been

climate-duped.

-áNA>>> Nick

Thanks Nick, couldn't have said it better myself. :-)

When in doubt, follow the money ...

The fact that someone is trying to make money out of something does not DD>stop that something from existing.

When a `scientist' comes up and says ....'well....the globe is heating up and we need to make a study to find out why'! And the `study' is gonna cost some millions of dollars....ok....here's the money do the `study'.


Next year that scientist (along with a few other `scientists') comes back and says;...'well....its sort of hard to really tell anything from that small of a `study'.....we need to `study' a bit further. Oh and by the way...its gonna cost a little more. Now its gonna cost several million more than it did last time. I'm a little skeptical......but ok....here's the money.


Next year there are even MORE `scientists' added TO the group and now the `study' needs to be expanded because they're getting `close to an answer'! BTW ....its gonna cost a little more money.


Now I'm getting downright suspicious.


The fires taking place in Australia right now I sincerely hope are brought under control soon.


I see extreme hatred aimed at your Prime Minister over this. As in `he saw
this coming'!


Not knowing what sort of forest management is practiced there (clearing dead trees, dead brush, etc etc) its hard to make any sort of call on conditions existing that contribute to fires being uncontrollable. If proper brush and dead tree maintainence isn't the norm, dangerous wild fires shouldn't be any surprise.


But...you have to wonder how much of the latest fires are actually caused by humans.


There are people who should never be allowed to leave their house with any
sort of devise that could start a fire; like a book of matches or a cigarette lighter....they just don't have the human sense to use them responsibly.


Other people get a kick out of starting fires.


But this wild fire thing isn't something Australia has never had happen until `climate change' came along....


`Dry lightning' is spoken of....but there are also people ignoring fire bans.


I suspect that if you went back in history far enough you'd find that fires like this are pretty common (relatively speaking). Modern Humans just haven't been around long enough to know that.


`Global warming' has nothing to do with it. The planet's ecology does this all the time.


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On 17 Jan 20 17:39:00, Tim Richardson said the following to Nick Andre:

The `climate' of the Earth has changed many many times in its 4 BILLION

yea

history!

Nice to see you're still alive Tim...

I've largely given up trying to explain myself on this; its basic science and not falling for the hysteria-of-the-decade. Especially hysteria that becomes a trend or popularity statement or in need of a celebrity endorsement.

When that hysteria fails to catch on, something else is whipped up. Global cooling, acid rain, the Amazon rainforests, humpback whales, global warming, and now....... tada, "climate change".

A generic euphemism that could mean anything. It sounds less nerdish than global cooling or warming, and can encompass/justify worrying about the icecaps, summer, winter, spring, fall, whales, the rainforests, bush fires, capitalism (for some reason), my hairy ass, anything. Because climate change.

Nick

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Hello TIM!

17 Jan 20 18:52, TIM RICHARDSON wrote to DAVID DRUMMOND:


[...]

Next year that scientist (along with a few other `scientists') comes
back and
says;...'well....its sort of hard to really tell anything from that
small of a
`study'.....we need to `study' a bit further.

[...]

Just take that opinion of yours about science to the science people you'll meet during your next time in hospital. You may practice by not using any technology created by scientists till then. See you... not.


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Nick!

18 Jan 20 05:44, Nick Andre wrote to Tim Richardson:

I've largely given up trying to explain myself on this; its basic
science and
not falling for the hysteria-of-the-decade.

So what is your scientific qualification, and why are so many scientists think it's about time to be concerned and take action?


Regards,
Gerrit

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18 Jan 20 14:19, you wrote to Nick Andre:

I've largely given up trying to explain myself on this; its
basic science and not falling for the hysteria-of-the-decade.

So what is your scientific qualification, and why are so many
scientists think it's about time to be concerned and take
action?

he has a degree in trolLOLogy and knows a lot about people. he did studies which proof that 99.5% of all scientist are hysterical, because they clearly distort the basic science that was found to be valid by the 0.1% scientists who are non-hysterical. so now we now that the climate research propagated by the fake media is bogus, because the scientist who are doing it are hysterical.

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he has a degree in trolLOLogy and knows a lot about people. he did
studies which proof that 99.5% of all scientist are hysterical, because...

<bla-bla-bla>

Nick is a true friend who will do crazy things for you just because he likes you. "You" as in not specifically yourself.

He has expressed an opinion, and while I do not share that opinion, we have no problem remaining friends. Interesting concept, try it once.

At one point from my American friends I learned that opinions are like an arse-hole ... everybody has one.

I think his opinion is wrong, but it's his opinion, not mine.

You could also tell him "Go get a life", but as it turns-out, that's just what he's trying to accomplish.

Enjoy the week-end,

\%/@rd

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On 18 Jan 20 14:19:36, Gerrit Kuehn said the following to Nick Andre:

I've largely given up trying to explain myself on this; its basic science and
not falling for the hysteria-of-the-decade.

So what is your scientific qualification, and why are so many scientists

th

it's about time to be concerned and take action?

Scientists like princess Greta?

Nick

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On 18 Jan 20 16:00:04, Oli said the following to Gerrit Kuehn:

he has a degree in trolLOLogy and knows a lot about people. he did studies which proof that 99.5% of all scientist are hysterical, because they

clearly

distort the basic science that was found to be valid by the 0.1% scientists who are non-hysterical. so now we now that the climate research propagated the fake media is bogus, because the scientist who are doing it are

hysteric

Its hysterical to me how much I live in your head rent-free and how much your host delightfully enjoys his access to my system.

Will you fix climate-change the same way you want to fix Fidonet by replacing all *C's? Or just the ones that cause you to have a snowflake-meldown?

Nick

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18 Jan 20 16:54, you wrote to me:

he has a degree in trolLOLogy and knows a lot about people. he
did studies which proof that 99.5% of all scientist are
hysterical, because...

<bla-bla-bla>

exactly, it's a lot of bla bla bla in this echo ...

Nick is a true friend who will do crazy things for you just
because he likes you. "You" as in not specifically yourself.

you mean as in specifically yourself. the two zone clowns as BFFs, how romantic ...

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Will you fix climate-change the same way you want to fix Fidonet
by replacing all *C's?

you really think i'm that stupid, don't you?


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Hello Nick!

18 Jan 20 11:21, Nick Andre wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

So what is your scientific qualification, and why are so many
scientists thinking it's about time to be concerned and take action?

Scientists like princess Greta?

Your first fail to answer a simple question. Ok, here is a hint:
Scientists usually hold an academic in degree the domain of science they received from a university.

So let's try this again: what is your scientific qualification?


Regards,
Gerrit

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On 18 Jan 20 18:32:02, Oli said the following to Nick Andre:

Will you fix climate-change the same way you want to fix Fidonet
by replacing all *C's?

you really think i'm that stupid, don't you?

If the climate-changing shoe fits...

Nick

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On 18 Jan 20 18:15:16, Gerrit Kuehn said the following to Nick Andre:

Your first fail to answer a simple question. Ok, here is a hint:
Scientists usually hold an academic in degree the domain of science they received from a university.

"Bla-bla-bla" ... and the planet's climate has changed since inception.

So let's try this again: what is your scientific qualification?

What's yours?

Nick

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Oli wrote to Gerrit Kuehn <=-

I've largely given up trying to explain myself on this; its
basic science and not falling for the hysteria-of-the-decade.

So what is your scientific qualification, and why are so many
scientists think it's about time to be concerned and take
action?

he has a degree in trolLOLogy and knows a lot about people. he
did studies which proof that 99.5% of all scientist are
hysterical, because they clearly distort the basic science that
was found to be valid by the 0.1% scientists who are
non-hysterical. so now we now that the climate research
propagated by the fake media is bogus, because the scientist who
are doing it are hysterical.

That's pretty close to accurate. One thing that would improve it
would be to replace "hysterical" with "paid schills".

Can you say "George Soros" and "AlGore"? How about "shareholders
of 'green energy' companies"?



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Oli wrote to Nick Andre <=-

Will you fix climate-change the same way you want to fix Fidonet
by replacing all *C's?

you really think i'm that stupid, don't you?

Well, I can't speak for Nick, but as for myself... "YES".

I'd like to remind you that you are supposed to use your full real
name when posting in Fidonet echos. Please remedy that.



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Hello Nick!

18 Jan 20 12:51, Nick Andre wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

So let's try this again: what is your scientific qualification?

What's yours?

Doesn't matter, counting to ten is taught in primary school (at least over here), no big science required. This is your second fail (in a row) in answering a simple question. Just as a reminder:
You claimed that the 90+% of all the scientists who do think the climate is changing these days mainly due to manmade actions, and man should do something about it, are wrong.

So I ask you for the third time: what is your scientific qualification?


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Ward!

18 Jan 20 16:54, Ward Dossche wrote to Oli:

He has expressed an opinion,

Nope. He did not "express" an opinion. He is continuously advertising his opinion as the only sensible truth in the world to anyone around, along the way trying ridiculing everyone not sharing it.


Regards,
Gerrit

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On 18 Jan 20 19:36:50, Gerrit Kuehn said the following to Nick Andre:

So I ask you for the third time: what is your scientific qualification?

Qualified enough to spot your inherent comprehension problem. You can have
a degree in something but that does not necessarily mean you know everything
on the subject. That is an authoritarian response to assume that a degree proves absolute knowledge or even qualification.

Just like its an authoritarian response to hide behind religion and bible quotes when asked about gay marriage or abortion. The person doesn't give a logical answer, just one that aligns with their belief that God is absolute.

I have met people and have extended family-connection with those who are extremely high functioning with university degrees and "qualification" in your view, but they cannot parallel-park their car or spot a Microsoft scam or
cook a meal to feed themselves if their life depended on it. They can score high on IQ testing but can fuck up a simple cup of coffee.

You assume that I must believe and recognize your definition of authority or qualification. That I must believe that a scientist can never be paid by corporations or persuaded by politicians to do studies biased in their
favour. To believe without question that climate science is never wrong?

I then asked for your scientific qualification. You said, "Doesn't matter".

Thats why you're being rediculed. I'm consistant with what I believe in, you're busy moving the football goal-posts to wherever your belief takes you.

Nick

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On 18 Jan 20 13:43:00, Dan Clough said the following to Oli:

Can you say "George Soros" and "AlGore"? How about "shareholders
of 'green energy' companies"?

In the words of princess Greta - "How dare you?"

Nick

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Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

On 18 Jan 20 13:43:00, Dan Clough said the following to Oli:

Can you say "George Soros" and "AlGore"? How about "shareholders
of 'green energy' companies"?

In the words of princess Greta - "How dare you?"

In the words of the British SAS - "Who dares wins". ;-)



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On 18 Jan 2020, Ward Dossche said the following...

Nick is a true friend who will do crazy things for you just because he likes you. "You" as in not specifically yourself.

He has expressed an opinion, and while I do not share that opinion, we have no problem remaining friends. Interesting concept, try it once.

More people need to sit up and take notice of this (not pointing fingers at anyone) concerning politics, sciences, etc. I have a pretty wide array of friends both on and offline. While I don't agree with probably most of them most of the time, doesn't mean I can't be polite, friendly and even friends with them.

Used to be 90% online. Now that Facebook has infected so many people, quite a few I know act like that in real life as well. Makes it hard to have any sort of discourse when folks don't want to talk to you because you are a democrat
or a republican or a muslim or christian....etc...

Only folks I don't particularly want to be friends with anymore are the ones that even refuse to speak to you (on or offline) just because you are not in lockstep with their opinions.

Very sad.

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Hello Nick!

18 Jan 20 15:52, Nick Andre wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

So I ask you for the third time: what is your scientific
qualification?

Qualified enough to spot your inherent comprehension problem.

You failed thrice with this simple question now. I somehow expected that.

You can
have
a degree in something but that does not necessarily mean you know everything
on the subject. That is an authoritarian response to assume that a
degree
proves absolute knowledge or even qualification.

Go to your doctor and tell him about this.

I have met people and have extended family-connection with those who
are
extremely high functioning with university degrees and
"qualification" in your
view, but they cannot parallel-park their car or spot a Microsoft
scam or
cook a meal to feed themselves if their life depended on it. They can score
high on IQ testing but can fuck up a simple cup of coffee.

Which has nothing to do with what we are talking about here.
A couple of years ago I read an article about someone who claimed to have found the solution for all energy problems we have. Some simple, cheap source of energy that would solve all kinds of problems of mankind. Strangely, I never heard of that guy again. He even had a degree, he was a physician.

Just change the sides in that story:
An engineer or physicist claims to have found a cure for all kinds of illnesses other people failed to find over decades. Cure for cancer, HIV, SARS, all at the same time. Cheap and easy. Would you believe that? Would you let someone like that treat your illnesses? I wouldn't even buy the story if the claim came from a physician. Not without a /detailed/ proof.

That's how science works: people making extraordinary claims need to proof them. If your opinion contradicts 90+% of the scientists working on the field worldwide, you'd better be prepared with some better answers than "persuation" and "bought studies" conspiration theories. Otherwise you just proof yourself to be a crackpot.

You assume that I must believe and recognize your definition of
authority or
qualification.

No. However, it would be nice to accept that there are people who know more than you do.
You say you know better than people wordwide working professionally on the subject. I'm laughing my ass off, why should anyone take /you/ serious? I get crackpot mail often enough, from people who "proved" that "scientists all over the world" have it "terribly wrong" in general relativity, nuclear fusion, electrodynamics, free energy, the universerse as a whole, whatever.
I don't care. People claiming extraordinary things that are in contradiction to the vast majority of the views of people who work professionally on the subject have to give proof for their claims. Otherwise they're simply... crackpots.

That I must believe that a scientist can never be paid
by
corporations or persuaded by politicians to do studies biased in
their
favour. To believe without question that climate science is never
wrong?

You can believe whatever you want. How likely do you think it is that 90+% of the scientists in that field all over the world got bought or persuaded? Just imagine, there are people outside the US and Canada working on this, people who don't care at all about Al Gore or George Soros.
On the other side, how likely may it be that you don't want to accept a reality that has uncomfortable consequences for you?

I then asked for your scientific qualification. You said, "Doesn't matter".

Indeed, it doesn't matter at all in this context, and I'm too old for having fun in cock comparisons.
You came up with the extraordinary claims, so it's your turn to proof. The scientific consensus is quite clear, and you can look it up in so many places, I'll just give two examples here: https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change

Thats why you're being rediculed. I'm consistant with what I believe
in,
you're busy moving the football goal-posts to wherever your belief
takes you.

I don't feel ridiculed at all. I said you were trying to ridicule people. Not very successfully, but keep on trying, maybe you get somewhere one day.
Your believes don't matter to me at all in this context, believes belong into a church of some kind.
BTW: football goal-posts are pretty much unmovable around here where I live...


Regards,
Gerrit

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That's how science works: people making extraordinary claims need to
proof them.

And replicate them ... One-hit wonders are not science.

\%/@rd

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On 18 Jan 20 23:13:54, Gerrit Kuehn said the following to Nick Andre:

You failed thrice with this simple question now. I somehow expected that.

You also failed thrice to answer the same question, other than with "doesn't matter". Now you want to give me some biiiiiiiiiiiiig quoting-rant nonsense.

I somehow expected that. But you are nowhere NEAR the level of quoting-rant mastery that is Mark Lewis. He is an absolute grandmaster where it is almost an artform. There is nothing quite like it. Imitating him would be a futile effort on my part; or I would likely start owing him royalty payments.

Instead I'll just politely and very happily say that I do not care jack-shit about climate science, climate scientists, climate Hollywood celebrities, climate princess Greta, rising sea-levels, its two degrees hotter or colder this year than it was last year, etc. Nobody needs a scientist to proclaim what we already know, that mankind is fucked "by design". We cannot look after eachother and we engage in wars, starvation, corruption, yet I'm supposed to put my hope in that mankind can stop the planet-doomsday currently underway.

I tend to live life as if every day is my last, and I question everything and anything. Life is too short for endless worry and pointless activism.

Most climate-change nutjobs just want to wave a magic hippie wand and poof... the world will be a nice utopia where we hold hands and sing Kumbaya. And for what? To feel good about themselves at the end of the day? Sounds more selfish than someone who doesn't want to play the game. Nutjobs who want to feel good and still enjoy their Starbucks, Nike shoes, Apple phones, big SUV etc.

Nick

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On 19 Jan 20 00:15:57, Ward Dossche said the following to Gerrit Kuehn:

That's how science works: people making extraordinary claims need to
proof them.

And replicate them ... One-hit wonders are not science.

Oh I don't know about that. One-hit wonders in rock music ARE a science.

Nick

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Hello Oli,

I've largely given up trying to explain myself on this; its
basic science and not falling for the hysteria-of-the-decade.

So what is your scientific qualification, and why are so many
scientists think it's about time to be concerned and take
action?

he has a degree in trolLOLogy and knows a lot about people. he did studies which proof that 99.5% of all scientist are hysterical, because they clearly distort the basic science that was found to be valid by the 0.1% scientists who are non-hysterical. so now we now that the climate research propagated by the fake media is bogus, because the scientist who are doing it are hysterical.

An academic degree in trolLOLogy. Only in Canada. :)

--Lee

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Hello Ward,

he has a degree in trolLOLogy and knows a lot about people. he did
studies which proof that 99.5% of all scientist are hysterical,
because...

<bla-bla-bla>

Nick is a true friend who will do crazy things for you just because he

likes

you. "You" as in not specifically yourself.

He has expressed an opinion, and while I do not share that opinion, we

have

no problem remaining friends. Interesting concept, try it once.

He has expressed an opinion. And you do not realize what his opinion
is. Which is why you have no idea as to what you are talking about.

Nick is expressing a nihilist viewpoint, which is shared by many.
Your viewpoint is different, and hardly nihilistic.

I find it boring to be in a group in which everybody believes in
the same thing, as if in a cult. I would most likely leave within
minutes, if not sooner. Unless I find it amusing just to sit and
watch. Or poke fun hoping to get tossed out the room.

At one point from my American friends I learned that opinions are like an arse-hole ... everybody has one.

I learned later that some can be an entire arse-hole.

I think his opinion is wrong, but it's his opinion, not mine.

Why is it wrong? Many people believe the same as Nick.
They may be misguided, but that is a far cry from being wrong.

You could also tell him "Go get a life", but as it turns-out, that's just what he's trying to accomplish.

In regards to fixing the problems caused by climate change,
a nihilist would say "Why bother?" Which is exactly what Nick
is doing. Now. How is that accomplishing anything?

Enjoy the week-end,

Enjoy your beer.

--Lee

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Hello Nick,

I've largely given up trying to explain myself on this; its basic
science and
not falling for the hysteria-of-the-decade.

So what is your scientific qualification, and why are so many scientists

th

it's about time to be concerned and take action?

Scientists like princess Greta?

She does have a green thumb. And knows how to use it.

--Lee

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Hello Oli,

he has a degree in trolLOLogy and knows a lot about people. he
did studies which proof that 99.5% of all scientist are
hysterical, because...

<bla-bla-bla>

exactly, it's a lot of bla bla bla in this echo ...

Nick is a true friend who will do crazy things for you just
because he likes you. "You" as in not specifically yourself.

you mean as in specifically yourself. the two zone clowns as BFFs, how romantic ...

Ohhh ...

I didn't know ...

Maybe I'll have to invite them to Peter Street rather
than Bourbon Street during Mardi Gras ...

--Lee

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Hello Gerrit,

So what is your scientific qualification, and why are so many
scientists thinking it's about time to be concerned and take action?

Scientists like princess Greta?

Your first fail to answer a simple question. Ok, here is a hint: Scientists usually hold an academic in degree the domain of science they received from a university.

So let's try this again: what is your scientific qualification?

I hold an academic in degree the domain of science to answer
the question. Can I play?

--Lee

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Hello Nick,

Your first fail to answer a simple question. Ok, here is a hint:
Scientists usually hold an academic in degree the domain of science they
received from a university.

"Bla-bla-bla" ... and the planet's climate has changed since inception.

So let's try this again: what is your scientific qualification?

What's yours?

Anwering a question with a question is not an answer.

Please try again.

--Lee

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Hello Gerrit,

He has expressed an opinion,

Nope. He did not "express" an opinion. He is continuously advertising his opinion as the only sensible truth in the world to anyone around, along

the

way trying ridiculing everyone not sharing it.

He is expressing a nihilist viewpoint, which actually is shared
by many (not just himself). He just does not realize it yet.

--Lee

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Hello Dan,

Will you fix climate-change the same way you want to fix Fidonet
by replacing all *C's?

you really think i'm that stupid, don't you?

Well, I can't speak for Nick, but as for myself... "YES".

I'd like to remind you that you are supposed to use your full real
name when posting in Fidonet echos. Please remedy that.

Who says Oli is real?
Who says I am real?
Who says anybody is real?

The Beatles were right.
Nothing is real.
And nothing to get hung about.
Strawberry Fields, forever.

--Lee

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Hello Nick,

So I ask you for the third time: what is your scientific qualification?

Qualified enough to spot your inherent comprehension problem. You can

have

a degree in something but that does not necessarily mean you know

everything

on the subject. That is an authoritarian response to assume that a degree proves absolute knowledge or even qualification.

Just like its an authoritarian response to hide behind religion and bible quotes when asked about gay marriage or abortion. The person doesn't give logical answer, just one that aligns with their belief that God is

absolute.

I have met people and have extended family-connection with those who are extremely high functioning with university degrees and "qualification" in your
view, but they cannot parallel-park their car or spot a Microsoft scam or cook a meal to feed themselves if their life depended on it. They can

score

high on IQ testing but can fuck up a simple cup of coffee.

You assume that I must believe and recognize your definition of authority

or

qualification. That I must believe that a scientist can never be paid by corporations or persuaded by politicians to do studies biased in their favour. To believe without question that climate science is never wrong?

I then asked for your scientific qualification. You said, "Doesn't

matter".

Thats why you're being rediculed. I'm consistant with what I believe in, you're busy moving the football goal-posts to wherever your belief takes you.

"What is your scientific qualification?"

By your answer, as stated above, you are a nihilist.

Oh, how I love to keep it simple. :)

--Lee

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On 19 Jan 20 03:21:46, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

So let's try this again: what is your scientific qualification?

What's yours?

Anwering a question with a question is not an answer.

Sure it is. But it "doesn't matter" and the whole thread is getting boring.

Nick

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On 19 Jan 20 03:22:35, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

By your answer, as stated above, you are a nihilist.

LOL, yet I live in your head rent-free and you worship and kiss my ass with trollery just because of the Fido-hat I wear. You cannot help but write me messages. I know I provide just enough entertainment for you until Bjorn lays off the sauce or has another disk-crash. Then suddenly.... you vanish.

Nick

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And replicate them ... One-hit wonders are not science.

Oh I don't know about that. One-hit wonders in rock music ARE a science.

Ahhh ... Rock Music ... you also have guys who never achieve anything but are lauded by the press for ... for ... for what ? George Michael for example ... His contribution to music can be summed-up by going to the urinals.

\%/@rd

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Which is why you have no idea as to what you are talking about.

Gerrit Kuehn does not agree with you.

Why is it wrong? Many people believe the same as Nick.

Try reading the writings of Michiel van der Vlist once in a while, love'm or hate'm. He has mentioned time and again that "believing" is "not knowing", it is "accepting without proof", anything which science is not because if you "don't know" it "isn't science".

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On 19/01/2020 11:42, 2292/854 wrote:

And replicate them ... One-hit wonders are not science.

Oh I don't know about that. One-hit wonders in rock music ARE a

science.

Ahhh ... Rock Music ... you also have guys who never achieve anything
but are lauded by the press for ... for ... for what ?    George

Michael

for example ... His contribution to music can be summed-up by going to
the urinals.

You have piped music at your urinals?

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Hello Nick,

So let's try this again: what is your scientific qualification?

What's yours?

Anwering a question with a question is not an answer.

Sure it is. But it "doesn't matter" and the whole thread is getting boring.

Do you believe in conspiracy theories? I am sure you do.
After all, climate denialism is, in itself, a conspiracy.
And that is what you have been claiming in this entire thread.

"The idea of manmade global warming is a hoax that was invented."

That is what you believe, given your own statements in this thread.

But that's okay. Some 17% of the people in the USA agree with
your view. Only people in Indonesia and Saudi Arabia hold a higher
percentage. So you are in good company.

Now, that is quite an accomplishment for the Z1C to express such a
popular opinion. Especially for a Canadian, as hardly any of your
compatriots agree with such wacky views. In fact, I cannot think
of any Canadians who agree with you. Hell, not even the Quebe‡ois
agree with you.

Nihilism is appealing. It's easy.

Rather than say "Climate change isn't happening"
it is so much easier to change the conversation and
say "It's too late, who cares, why bother?"

Or, in your own words - it "doesn't matter" and the whole
thread is getting boring.

--Lee

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Hello Nick,

By your answer, as stated above, you are a nihilist.

LOL, yet I live in your head rent-free and you worship and kiss my ass with >trollery just because of the Fido-hat I wear. You cannot help but write me >messages. I know I provide just enough entertainment for you until Bjorn
lays
off the sauce or has another disk-crash. Then suddenly.... you vanish.

As you well know, nobody can ever Finnish the sauce ...

--Lee

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Hello Ward,

Which is why you have no idea as to what you are talking about.

Gerrit Kuehn does not agree with you.

I hardly agree with myself. So perhaps that is a *good* thing.

Why is it wrong? Many people believe the same as Nick.

Try reading the writings of Michiel van der Vlist once in a while, love'm

or

hate'm. He has mentioned time and again that "believing" is "not

knowing",

it is "accepting without proof", anything which science is not because if you "don't know" it "isn't science".

We live in a world of doubt.
We must doubt to believe, and can never know.
I have expressed that philosophy many times.
It is a truth for those who believe, and also
for those who do not believe.
But it remains belief, not knowledge,
that makes us who and what we are.

The best we can do is come up with a theory of probability.
Not of absolutes. Nothing is ever truly black and white.

"I believe in God" is a belief.
"I know God exists" is a statement of lunacy.

Politicians make many statements that are false.
And yet, millions believe what they say.
Even if verified facts contradict what they have said.

People believe whatever they want to believe.
Whether that something is true or not.

An atheist/agnostic professes not to believe in a god.
That, in itself, is a belief.
Not actual knowledge of the existence or non-existence of a god.

Jesus did not believe in God.

And yet many people worship him as a god.

"Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father!" ~Jesus (Jn 14:6-9)

Was he who he claimed to be?

"The Father and I are one!" ~Jesus (Jn 10:30-33)

You tell me.

--Lee

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Hello David,

And replicate them ... One-hit wonders are not science.

Oh I don't know about that. One-hit wonders in rock music ARE a

science.

Ahhh ... Rock Music ... you also have guys who never achieve anything
but are lauded by the press for ... for ... for what ?ÿÿÿ George Michael
for example ... His contribution to music can be summed-up by going to
the urinals.

You have piped music at your urinals?

He's Belgian. Scared the living daylights out of the Congolese.

--Lee

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Hello Ward!

19 Jan 20 00:15, Ward Dossche wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

That's how science works: people making extraordinary claims need to
proof them.

And replicate them ... One-hit wonders are not science.

Sure. Ideally, this is left to a different set of people, just to make sure. That's exactly why things that are already in the scientific consensus cannot be brushed aside with some wild conspiration theory claims anymore: the number of scientists, working groups, scientific organisations, countires etc. supporting this consensus already provides a huge amount of checks and replications.


Regards,
Gerrit

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George Michael for example ... His contribution to music can be
summed-up by going to the urinals.

You have piped music at your urinals?

Not that I know of but George Michael tested some mouth-pieces there for the belly-flute.

On the subject of urinals ... I still like those at Amsterdam's Schiphol airport best. There it was introduced to have an aiming-target so that guys would pee "in" it ... it used to be a fly. That practice has now been copied worldwide... George Michael was good at that ... co-peeing.

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On 19 Jan 20 17:42:59, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

Sure it is. But it "doesn't matter" and the whole thread is getting

boring

Do you believe in conspiracy theories? I am sure you do.
After all, climate denialism is, in itself, a conspiracy.
And that is what you have been claiming in this entire thread.

Nope, try again Bjorn. I claimed climate *hysteria* is bullshit.

Nick

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On 19 Jan 20 17:43:26, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

LOL, yet I live in your head rent-free and you worship and kiss my ass

wit

trollery just because of the Fido-hat I wear. You cannot help but write

me

messages. I know I provide just enough entertainment for you until Bjorn

lays

off the sauce or has another disk-crash. Then suddenly.... you vanish.

As you well know, nobody can ever Finnish the sauce ...

You would be the expert on sauce, finishing the sauce, swallowing the sauce.

Nick

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Hello Nick,

LOL, yet I live in your head rent-free and you worship and kiss my ass

wit

trollery just because of the Fido-hat I wear. You cannot help but

write me

messages. I know I provide just enough entertainment for you until

Bjorn

lays

off the sauce or has another disk-crash. Then suddenly.... you vanish.

As you well know, nobody can ever Finnish the sauce ...

You would be the expert on sauce, finishing the sauce, swallowing the

sauce.

Filipino ketchup! Quite tasty! The French have the dressing,
and the fries. Filipinos have the ketchup. Americans have the
orange cheese. What a wonderful combination!

Banana ketchup!
The wonder of wonders!
Invented in the Philippines!
Served to American GIs during WWII!
French fries will never be the same!
Spaghetti & meatballs ...

Pelago’s House-Made Banana Ketchup

Ingredients
1 tablespoon chopped garlic
1 tablespoon chopped shallot
1 tablespoon chopped ginger
2 ounces tomato paste
4 bananas (Saba if possible)
2 ounces white vinegar
2 ounces water
4 ounces brown sugar
Salt and pepper to taste

Directions

Sweat garlic, shallot and ginger for 5 minutes.
Add tomato paste and cook for another minute.
Deglaze with vinegar and water.
Add brown sugar and bananas; cook for 10 minutes.
Puree mixture until smooth, and adjust seasoning with salt and pepper.

https://www.foodrepublic.com/


--Lee

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Hello Nick,

Sure it is. But it "doesn't matter" and the whole thread is getting
boring

Do you believe in conspiracy theories? I am sure you do.
After all, climate denialism is, in itself, a conspiracy.
And that is what you have been claiming in this entire thread.

Nope, try again Bjorn. I claimed climate *hysteria* is bullshit.

Climate hysteria is a subset of climate denialism.

The nihilist viewpoint that you have expressed suggests
that (due to what you call "climate hysteria") scientific
values and beliefs are unfounded, and that such existence
is senseless and useless.

Nihilism is appealing. It's easy. Even an idiot like Trump
believes climate change is a hoax. So why not the Z1C?

Not that you believe climate change is a hoax. It is just
far easier to accept the conversation has been changed from
"Climate change isn't happening" to "It's too late, who the
fuck cares, why bother?"

That is, by definition, a nihilist viewpoint.

nihilism - n. a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs
are unfounded and that such existence is senseless and useless. [Merriam-Webster Dictionary]

--Lee

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On 01-18-20, GERRIT KUEHN said to TIM RICHARDSON:

Hello TIM!

17 Jan 20 18:52, TIM RICHARDSON wrote to DAVID DRUMMOND:

[...]

Next year that scientist (along with a few other `scientists') comes
back and
says;...'well....its sort of hard to really tell anything from that
small of a
`study'.....we need to `study' a bit further.

[...]

Just take that opinion of yours about science to the science people you'll GK>meet during your next time in hospital. You may practice by not using any GK>technology created by scientists till then.

You don't have to be a `scientist' in a hospital to know when you're being scammed.


You don't have to be a `scientist' to know that, in the 4-point-something billion-year existance of the planet Earth. the climate has been `changing' throughout that entire time.


A few pretty obvious points;


Many millions of years ago animals existed that were completely wiped out in a very short time by cataclysmic events that changed the conditions of almost
the entire world in a matter of a few days, or weeks!


Are you aware that whole mastadons have been found in huge ice fields? Intact! Some even had food in their stomach undigested....some had food in their mouth they were chewing at the time whatever occured overwhelmed them.


The Earth goes through radical climate change all the time.


The species MAN hasn't been in existence as an organized civilization long enough to really have a realistic timeline of climate change world-wide.


It is idiots like Al Gore (who, by the way, made himself a multimillionaire with his doomsday hammering on how the planet was dangerously heating up.... oceans would wash over NYC....yada yada.......) who've carried the torch of what at first was called *global warming*. He's still predicting climate doomsday.....but most (if not all) his dire predictions have either fallen on their face, or are so far fetched even his own followers are beginning to ignore him.


Little-known or ignored fact:


Al Gore is neither a climatologist, nor a scientist, nor even a half-way
decent weather forecaster.


(Speaking of Al Gore....not only did he become a millionaire waving the
`global warming' flag (while preaching on `wind farms, solar panels, turning the heat down in winter...using less power in summer, etc etc...) he owned homes that used the same or more amount of electricity in one year as a small town! He preached about others ruining the environment with heavy cars and SUV's....and travelled to and from `climate' rallies and speeches in a private jet!)


The thing I learned when this whole thing about `global warming' started up was; follow the money!


And when the `global warming' thing began to come apart due to temperatures
not getting blistering hot as predicted....in fact started going the other way....the scare then became *climaate change*!


But its no different; follow the money! Always follow the money.

See you... not.

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On 01-18-20, GERRIT KUEHN said to NICK ANDRE:

Hello Nick!

18 Jan 20 05:44, Nick Andre wrote to Tim Richardson:

I've largely given up trying to explain myself on this; its basic
science and
not falling for the hysteria-of-the-decade.

So what is your scientific qualification, and why are so many scientists GK>think it's about time to be concerned and take action?

What were Al gore's qualifications?


What are Greta Thunberg's qualifications? How old is she? 16? 17? What
suddenly `qualifies' her to pontificate on `climate'? Has she ever even given
a weather report on broadcast media?


Her best claim to fame was she `rode' on a sail boat across an ocean...and
then `flew' home (guess she didn't want to deal with that sea sickness going home!).


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On 01-19-20, WARD DOSSCHE said to LEE LOFASO:

Which is why you have no idea as to what you are talking about.

Gerrit Kuehn does not agree with you.

Why is it wrong? Many people believe the same as Nick.

Try reading the writings of Michiel van der Vlist once in a while, love'm WD>or hate'm. He has mentioned time and again that "believing" is "not WD>knowing", it is "accepting without proof", anything which science is not WD>because if you "don't know" it "isn't science".

I have been an amateur astronomer for going on almost 40 years. I've studied many things related to astronomy and astrophysics during that time.


I have no degree in science of any kind.


BUT!


You don't have to be a `scientist' to wonder why the government pours taxpayer money into all these `climate-study' programs....but all we're told is; we
need to do more `studying'....and it's going to take more `money'!


I was suspicious after awhile when I saw people making whole careers! from taxpayer money being poured into these `global warming' studies.


Then.....the East Anglia University Climate Research Unit E-mails hit the fan!


Then....Mann's `Hockey Stick' graph was debunked!


Then....suddenly....when the `global warming' scam becme more and more
exposed; data being `doctored' to try to make it fit `predictions'.


Temperature equipment being located in `heat-sink' areas to `detect' the `global warming' in action.


Then...when the `global warming' mantra was beginning to look a little
silly... they switched to `climate change'. The shift from the one to the next was very smooth. A large number of the masses didn't even notice how `warming' disappeared and `change' slipped smoothly into place.


It was (and still is) one of the biggest frauds since Humphrey J. Flack! (With apologies to Alan Mowbrey)





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Hello Nick!

18 Jan 20 19:46, Nick Andre wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

You failed thrice with this simple question now. I somehow expected
that.

You also failed thrice to answer the same question, other than with "doesn't matter".

I even explained to you why it doesn't matter whereas it still matters in your case. However, I can just explain things to you, I cannot understand them for you. If you insist behaving like a crackpot, that's all your decision. Just don't expect me or any other human being able to think outisde the little box people like Rupert Murdoch created for you to take you serious. Just go on ranting, I won't care.

Nutjobs who want to feel good and still enjoy their Starbucks, Nike shoes, Apple phones, big SUV etc.

You still don't know nothing about me.


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Ward!

19 Jan 20 10:42, Ward Dossche wrote to Nick Andre:

Ahhh ... Rock Music ... you also have guys who never achieve anything
but are lauded by the press for ... for ... for what ?

What exactly is an "achievement" in rock music for you? All the 60's and 70's crap you usually are all so crazy about here is supposed to qualify as an "achievement"? ;-)))


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello TIM!

24 Jan 20 21:48, TIM RICHARDSON wrote to GERRIT KUEHN:

Just take that opinion of yours about science to the science people
you'll meet during your next time in hospital. You may practice by not
using any technology created by scientists till then.

You don't have to be a `scientist' in a hospital to know when you're being scammed.

That depends on how obvious the scamming attempt is and how your personal background is. If you go to hospital because of a cancer diagnosis, would you tell the doctor that you know better?

You don't have to be a `scientist' to know that, in the
4-point-something
billion-year existance of the planet Earth. the climate has been `changing'
throughout that entire time.

Nobody doubts that.

The species MAN hasn't been in existence as an organized civilization long
enough to really have a realistic timeline of climate change
world-wide.

That's what the scientific consensus is seeing in a different light: Most of what we saw changing in the last say 100 years is manmade.

The thing I learned when this whole thing about `global warming'
started up
was; follow the money!

Follow the money on cancer treatments, you'll find out a lot of nasty things. Still think you know better and tell your doctor you don't need any of these?


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello TIM!

24 Jan 20 20:46, TIM RICHARDSON wrote to GERRIT KUEHN:

What were Al gore's qualifications?
What are Greta Thunberg's qualifications?

Doesn't matter at all. They are stage figures, forget about them.
Instead, look into the scientific consensus and tell me why all the people behind that (who do have credibility in their field) should be wrong... and don't come up with conspiration theories again that everything has been bought and bribed into place on global scale. I don't know how scientific freedom and academic freedom are handled in the US, over here they are guaranteed by our constitution.


Regards,
Gerrit

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On 25 Jan 20 12:52:20, Gerrit Kuehn said the following to Nick Andre:

case. However, I can just explain things to you, I cannot understand them you. If you insist behaving like a crackpot, that's all your decision.

Just

don't expect me or any other human being able to think outisde the little

I gave a very straightforward logical opinion why climate nutjob hysteria is bullshit, which really had not so much to do with the science but rather unfounded doomsday nonsense from princess Greta and other celebrities.

You had absolutely nothing to come back with other than douchebaggery lame insults. You even tried a Mark Lewis quote-rant but I didn't take the bait. You're lucky you don't owe him royalty payments...

When Fido flamage dies down, you and others attempt to gaslight by whining about other shit or inventing aliases and point-systems to hide behind.

It must be boring to be you. Entertain yourself by inventing another thing to troll me over. I'll wait patiently; I do have German family heritage.

Nick

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Hello Dan and others,

Sat. 18 Jan 2020, 13:46:00, Dan Clough wrote to Oli:

I'd like to remind you that you are supposed to use your full real
name when posting in Fidonet echos. Please remedy that.

First, you are not the moderator of this FidoNet EchoMail area.

Second,
Everyone wo wants to know his real name can search FidoNet for a fresh PointList in with his full name is publisched including his point adres.
It is distributed as Z2PNT.Z?? in a FileEchoArea, available for FileRequest
or DownLoad at many BBSes and also at some websites with FidoNet related
stuff.
So good luck.

Third, you could ask the Boss of this point why his name is not his full name.

... Post may contain information unsuitable for overly sensitive persons.

You are to sensitive too, as this alias is NO Problem !
And also not forbidden by the current rules.
So go home, and do your homework again.

Henri.

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26 Jan 20 03:14, you wrote to Dan Clough:

I'd like to remind you that you are supposed to use your full
real name when posting in Fidonet echos. Please remedy that.

First, you are not the moderator of this FidoNet EchoMail area.

Second,

Third,

Fourth: [citation needed]


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Hello Nick!

25 Jan 20 20:30, Nick Andre wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

It must be boring to be you.

Did you ever win a medal in making arbitrary assumptions? You're pretty good at that.

Entertain yourself by inventing another
thing to troll me over.

You're way less important than you think. You may come back to me if you're interested in actually discussing something. You can certainly continue whining publically about how unfair the world is to you, but I cannot help you with that.

I do have German family heritage.

Who hasn't?
Do you think they left for a reason?


Regards,
Gerrit

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On 26 Jan 20 16:36:34, Gerrit Kuehn said the following to Nick Andre:

You're way less important than you think. You may come back to me if

you're

interested in actually discussing something. You can certainly continue

LOL if I'm so unimportant, why do you insist on replying? How come you did a lengthly quote-rant earlier? And theres no time to discuss anything as soon
I may "see the sea at my door or bushfires". Lions and tigers and bears oh my!

I can actually see the shore from my house... but its lake Ontario, fucknuts.

The world has actually been very good to me and am very fortunate to have the things I have in life. You climate nutjobs should appreciate the same.

Nick

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Hello Nick!

26 Jan 20 13:35, Nick Andre wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

LOL if I'm so unimportant, why do you insist on replying?

I pity you. But I won't continue this, looks like that'll be better for your blood pressure, anyway.


Regards,
Gerrit

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On 26 Jan 20 20:21:54, Gerrit Kuehn said the following to Nick Andre:

LOL if I'm so unimportant, why do you insist on replying?

I pity you. But I won't continue this, looks like that'll be better for

you

blood pressure, anyway.

LOL, *you still* cannot help yourself but reply...

Nick

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On Jan 26, 2020 04:35pm, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Nick Andre:

I do have German family heritage.

Who hasn't?
Do you think they left for a reason?

Me and 98% of the world's population :)



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Hello Terry!

27 Jan 20 09:54, Terry Roati wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

I do have German family heritage.

Who hasn't?
Do you think they left for a reason?

Me and 98% of the world's population :)

Sure? Can you look back 5 generations or more in your ancestry?
Anyway, my actual point here was that German heritage isn't exactly uncommon for me (although most of my family moved here only 3 generations ago), so whatever Nick was trying to say here, I'm not really impressed.


Regards,
Gerrit

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On 27 Jan 20 20:30:44, Gerrit Kuehn said the following to Terry Roati:

Sure? Can you look back 5 generations or more in your ancestry?
Anyway, my actual point here was that German heritage isn't exactly

uncommo

for me (although most of my family moved here only 3 generations ago), so whatever Nick was trying to say here, I'm not really impressed.

Who cares.

I thought I was unimportant, yet here you are obsessing about me again?

Nick

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On Jan 27, 2020 08:29pm, Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Terry Roati:

Hello Gerrit,

Sure? Can you look back 5 generations or more in your ancestry?

Yes, is there a point here?

Anyway, my actual point here was that German heritage isn't exactly uncommon for me (although most of my family moved here only 3
generations ago), so whatever Nick was trying to say here, I'm not
really impressed.

Then you should have asked him what he implied.

White noise doen't help to fix the effects of climate change, it just confuses people and nothing happens.

If practical ideas were properly discussed and feasible then they might actually be implemented but the white noise doesn't help.

Voters are concerned about climate change until an election then they are more concerned about money in their pocket and jobs, their health etc.

Just my opinion.




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Hello Terry!

28 Jan 20 11:09, Terry Roati wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

Anyway, my actual point here was that German heritage isn't exactly
uncommon for me (although most of my family moved here only 3
generations ago), so whatever Nick was trying to say here, I'm not
really impressed.

Then you should have asked him what he implied.

I think I did exactly that. However, he chose not to answer (like in so many cases) and came up with more of the same verbal slander he already spread before.

White noise doen't help to fix the effects of climate change, it just confuses
people and nothing happens.

Sure enough. However, Nick's "opinion" was that there is no such thing as climate change.

Voters are concerned about climate change until an election then they
are more
concerned about money in their pocket and jobs, their health etc.

This is what is changing at least for a considerable amount of people meanwhile. Nick is calling this process "hysteria".


Regards,
Gerrit

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On Fri 17-Jan-2020 6:11p, Tim Richardson@1:123/140.0 said to Nick Andre:

On 01-09-20, NICK ANDRE said to GERRIT KUEHN:

Probably back so long ago Humankind has no memory of it.

:=) LOL Humankind...

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