• The truth according

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Apr 1 02:38:50 2019
    Hello Greg,

    Get Real. That is why our economy is doing fantastic

    Now take a look at yours at the same site

    But he never claimed that their economy was fantastic, did he?

    No he didn't but that was not the intention, it was as it has been
    (for a while now) to create negative narrative where none should exist.

    The US and Sweden have the same exact score.
    Does that mean that Americans should move to Sweden?
    Or that Swedes should move to the USA?

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Apr 1 02:39:02 2019
    Hello Greg,

    [..]

    I'm not really that angry, Trump does not impinge much on my lifestyle.
    I was more thinking about the act being carried out by a USAmerican
    resident, one who seriously feels fucked over by Trump's actions. Maybe
    even a relative of someone stuck behind a wall...

    The type person your talking I feel is lazy and wants everything handed
    to
    them.

    Like our president, who would much prefer to be out playing golf
    rather than doing his job?

    Do you think you are unreachable because this fidonet and that you GD>are
    Australia?

    Unreachable? Your message has reached me, what are you alluding to?

    What I am talking is the topic of assassination of the President should
    be
    one those taboo subjects that is not mentioned.

    I pray such a thing never happens to any president. Or any
    other politician, for that matter. Even if he/she is not from
    the USA.

    You are entitled to your opinion, however much it sucks.

    It does if your on the left or are a liberal, socialist, communist.
    but you are right I am entitled to my opinion.

    Some opinions are best unstated.

    I am sure that there are people out there who would welcome DD>the demise
    of Mr Trump - in some form or other.

    Not many people wish the POTUS dead. Whether by their own
    hand, or by someone else.

    Look at the enthusiasm for the "Russia-gate" debacle.

    Everyone knows now where that came from.

    666 Trump Tower, with Donald Trump, Jr hosting a group of Russians
    who claimed they had something about Hillary Clinton they wanted to
    share with him.

    As there was no evidence of collusion, no obstruction with Trump.

    Not everybody takes AG Bill Barr's word for it.

    The Mueller Report is 300 pages and the summary of the Barr statement is
    4.

    The Mueller Report is just under 400 pages, according to various
    sources. AG Bill Barr's four-page summary is not nearly enough to
    qualify as what special counsel Bob Mueller included in the report.

    The left is trying to manipulate and misrepresent - it's all lies.

    This is a massive coverup, worse than what happened in Nixon's day.

    I predict that The he Deep state is very serious in trouble.

    I predict Donald Trump will be shown the door at twelve o'clock
    noon on January 20, 2021. Unless he croaks on junk food and soda
    pop before then.

    --Lee

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Apr 1 12:52:52 2019
    On 1/04/2019 02:20, Gregory Deyss -> David Drummond wrote:

    I'm not really that angry, Trump does not impinge much on my lifestyle.
    I was more thinking about the act being carried out by a USAmerican
    resident, one who seriously feels fucked over by Trump's actions. Maybe
    even a relative of someone stuck behind a wall...

    The type person your talking I feel is lazy and wants everything handed
    to
    them.

    Just like those who offer low paid employment to your southern neighbours?

    Do you think you are unreachable because this fidonet and that you ar
    Australia?

    Unreachable? Your message has reached me, what are you alluding to?

    What I am talking is the topic of assassination of the President should
    be
    one those taboo subjects that is not mentioned.

    According to whom? There is lots of talk out there about the assassination of US presidents - it has happened a few times.

    I am lead to believe that the presidents (present and past) get around with quite a security contingent - so they must talk about it too.


    You are entitled to your opinion, however much it sucks.

    It does if your on the left or are a liberal, socialist, communist.
    but you are right I am entitled to my opinion.

    You speak as if "left", liberal", "socialist" and "communist" are derogatory terms... Are they to you?

    I am sure that there are people out there who would welcome the demise
    of Mr Trump - in some form or other. Look at the enthusiasm for the
    "Russia-gate" debacle.

    Everyone knows now where that came from.
    As there was no evidence of collusion, no obstruction with Trump.

    So we're told...

    The Mueller Report is 300 pages and the summary of the Barr statement is
    4.
    The left is trying to manipulate and misrepresent - it's all lies.

    I predict that The he Deep state is very serious in trouble.

    As is the whole USAmerican system.

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    Gang warily
    David

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Apr 1 13:01:37 2019
    On 1/04/2019 02:49, Lee Lofaso -> Gregory Deyss wrote:

    Do you think you are unreachable because this fidonet and that you are in
    Australia?

    That was really a dumb statement that you just made.

    I do not believe David realized what he did. Posted his message
    on the 38th-year anniversary of the John Hinckley Jr shooting of
    President Ronald Reagan and three others.

    And you have these dates store in your "easy to recall" memory?

    Still no excuse. Wishing a man dead is never in good taste.

    Even when that person is Mr Asad, Kim or Hussein? How about the democratically elected leader of Venezuela? Does no-one in USA wish his demise?

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    Gang warily
    David

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Gerrit Kuehn on Mon Apr 1 06:57:00 2019
    On 31 Mar 2019, Gerrit Kuehn said the following...

    Hello Gregory!

    31 Mar 19 11:28, Gregory Deyss wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

    https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/gdp-growth
    Yeah... I wouldn't be talking there Gerrit.

    Yeah, seems like we finally heard enough of Mr. Trump's whining
    abou
    Germany's high trade surplus and the US trade gap during the last
    months...

    Can you or your leaders answer the question, as to why there is a trade gap.

    Because we produce things over here (and often even in the US) that
    people in the US like to buy.

    The President gave praise to Volkswagen for expanding their presence and
    scope here in the United States. I am not only fan of the Volkswagen Story,
    but drive nothing but.

    Well, maybe you can enlighten us what you consider "unfair trade practices" in this context. Peferrably, this should not just be "felt" unfairness, but something based on WTO rules or similar.
    Bonus question: Can you explain how German cars on US streets threaten your national security as claimed by Mr. Trump?

    I think his words were taken out of context, deliberately I am afraid.
    It's more like a translation gone horribly wrong, all I can find on the
    matter is that there was something provided to the Wall Street Journal and
    CNBC and to a German Magazine. (The press is at it again)

    This is just fake news story, that is trying to force a wedge.

    The Truth is the VW operates a large plant in TN as well as SC creating many many jobs.

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  • From BOB ACKLEY@1:123/140 to NATHANAEL CULVER on Mon Apr 1 16:09:50 2019
    You cannot disprove a negative.

    I think you mean you cannot PROVE a negative, but either way yes, of
    course
    you can prove negatives. We do it every day.

    There's no money in my bank account. Here's my account statement.
    There are no tall short men.
    Ted is innocent of that crime. See? Here's his obituary.

    can be shown. Problem is, the AG refuses to share that info with

    "Refuses"? It's been all of four days since Mueller delivered the
    report to
    Barr, and Barr explicitly stated in his letter to Congress that the
    DOJ is
    currently reviewing the report to determine which parts of it may be
    legally
    released. Where do people get this "Barr refuses to release the
    report" stuff?

    The AG decided all by himself that nobody else has the right to
    even read the report, as he alone is God Almighty and absolute
    ruler

    No, he didn't. It was the aftermath of the Saturday Night Massacre
    which
    led Democrats to push for greater independence of the special
    prosecutor
    and ultimately to the Ethics in Government Act, signed into law by
    Carter in
    1978, which requires the independent counsel to report to the AG.

    Barr did not decide "all by himself". He's following laws put in
    place by
    Democrats.

    LL> by the AG as to what happened. But the actual truth, as
    reported
    LL> by Mueller, in its entirety.

    You're not going to get it. The report undoubtedly contains classified information protected by law, lots of information that could
    jeopardize
    informants and other government operatives, and information on
    innocent
    individuals the public has no right to see. What we'll see will be,
    at best, a
    heavily redacted release, which will allow you to continue to
    complain about
    how somebody's hiding something.

    If the Corruptocrats in congress get a hold of the whole report, it
    will be all over the leftist media within seconds regardless of how
    much classified or sensitive information is contained in it. Congress -
    particularly but not exclusively Corruptocrats in congress - has been
    a sieve for classified information for the past half century.
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  • From BOB ACKLEY@1:123/140 to MARK LEWIS on Mon Apr 1 16:13:48 2019
    On 2019 Mar 28 12:37:44, you wrote to David Drummond:

    What is that saying? - The absence of evidence is not evidence
    of
    absence.

    True, but in court the absence of evidence *is* absence of guilt.

    that depends on the court... some places are "guilty until proven
    innocent"...

    Witness federal judge Walter S Smith in Waco, TX, who sentenced the
    Davidians to forty years in prison for using a weapon in the commission
    of a crime the jury said they didn't commit
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  • From nathanael culver@3:712/886 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Apr 2 09:53:07 2019
    Not everybody takes AG Bill Barr's word for it.

    Certainly those who *want* there to be evidence of collusion don't. Good luck with your conspiracy theories.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Wed Apr 3 17:49:10 2019
    Hello David,

    [..]

    According to whom? There is lots of talk out there about the
    assassination
    of US presidents - it has happened a few times.

    Abraham Lincoln was shot by an unknown assailant.
    He later died in a room, the only persons seeing him
    being his doctor and his wife. His body was placed
    in a closed coffin for his funeral, then he was
    laid to rest.

    Jim Morrison died of a heart attack while sleeping in a bathtub.
    His body was placed in a closed coffin for his funeral, then he
    was laid to rest in a public cemetary.

    We do not know if Abraham Lincoln died of a gunshot wound.
    We do not know if Jim Morrosion died of a heart attack.
    We do not know if either Abraham Lincoln or Jim Morrison
    died at all. Maybe they both faked their own death.

    We just have no way of knowing.

    We do know the body of John Wilkes Booth is not where
    it was claimed to have been buried. Or even if the body
    that was claimed to have been buried is actually John
    Wilkes Booth.

    Jim Morrison's girlfriend leased a gravesite in Paris
    to bury her beloved. The lease ran out a few years ago.
    But no attempt was made to remove Jim Morrison's body
    from the gravesite. Too many tourists wanted it to
    remain exactly where it was reputed to be.

    What if there is no body to be found at Lincoln's gravesite?
    What if there is no body to be found at Jim Morrison's gravesite?

    We only know what we have been told.

    I am lead to believe that the presidents (present and past) get around
    with
    quite a security contingent - so they must talk about it too.

    Not outside their own circle.

    Indira Ghandi was offed by one of her bodyguards. A few years later,
    I ran across a secret service agent who was recruiting at a job fair.
    I asked him why no secret secret service agent had never turned on
    the POTUS. He was so shocked he had no answer. Just a blank stare.
    Totally unable to say.

    This exchange made me wonder.

    Several US presidents have died in office before the end of their
    term(s) in office. Can it be that one, or more, have been offed by
    their own security team?

    It has been rumored that FDR was poisoned. Americans were shocked
    when they learned he had croaked. It was thought by all he was in
    great health, with no physical problems (aside from not being able
    to walk).

    How do we know JFK was killed in Dallas? His body was placed in a
    closed coffin for his funeral. Just like Abraham Lincoln.

    We only know what we have been told.

    Does that make any of it true?

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Wed Apr 3 17:49:22 2019
    Hello David,

    Do you think you are unreachable because this fidonet and that you are
    in
    Australia?

    That was really a dumb statement that you just made.

    I do not believe David realized what he did. Posted his message
    on the 38th-year anniversary of the John Hinckley Jr shooting of
    President Ronald Reagan and three others.

    And you have these dates store in your "easy to recall" memory?

    Yes. I have a memory like an elephant. Thanks to Republicans.

    Still no excuse. Wishing a man dead is never in good taste.

    Even when that person is Mr Asad, Kim or Hussein? How about the democratically elected leader of Venezuela? Does no-one in USA wish his demise?

    What did we do with Saddam Huseein? We turned him over to his
    own people so that they could deal with him. See how nice we are?

    We are so nice. To everybody. We would have turned over Benito
    Mussolini to his own people, given the chance. We would have
    turned over Adolf Hitler to his own people, given the chance.

    Hell, we let Emperor Hirohito spend the rest of his days a free
    man, without having to spend a single day in jail.

    We just can't help ourselves. Being nice is just our nature.

    Donald Trump says he is in love with Kim. Not sure if he is
    also in love with Assad. Might be, given his love for Vladimir.

    Could be his love letter to the democratically elected leader
    of Venezuela went unansered. Probably due to the high cost of
    postage stamps ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to nathanael culver on Wed Apr 3 17:49:35 2019
    Hello Nathanael,

    Not everybody takes AG Bill Barr's word for it.

    Certainly those who *want* there to be evidence of collusion don't. Good luck with your conspiracy theories.

    The evidence has been collected. The AG refuses to allow others
    to read the documentation of that evidence. IOW, a whitewash.
    A massive coverup of crimes committed.

    Read my post under the subject "Watergate II".
    Note what Rachel Maddow said on her show on 4/2/2019.
    That is for starters.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to BOB ACKLEY on Wed Apr 3 17:51:06 2019
    Hello Bob,

    You cannot disprove a negative.

    I think you mean you cannot PROVE a negative, but either way yes, of
    course
    you can prove negatives. We do it every day.

    There's no money in my bank account. Here's my account statement.
    There are no tall short men.
    Ted is innocent of that crime. See? Here's his obituary.

    can be shown. Problem is, the AG refuses to share that info with

    "Refuses"? It's been all of four days since Mueller delivered the
    report to
    Barr, and Barr explicitly stated in his letter to Congress that the
    DOJ is
    currently reviewing the report to determine which parts of it may be
    legally
    released. Where do people get this "Barr refuses to release the
    report" stuff?

    The AG decided all by himself that nobody else has the right to
    even read the report, as he alone is God Almighty and absolute
    ruler

    No, he didn't. It was the aftermath of the Saturday Night Massacre
    which
    led Democrats to push for greater independence of the special
    prosecutor
    and ultimately to the Ethics in Government Act, signed into law by
    Carter in
    1978, which requires the independent counsel to report to the AG.

    Barr did not decide "all by himself". He's following laws put in
    place by
    Democrats.

    by the AG as to what happened. But the actual truth, as
    reported
    by Mueller, in its entirety.

    You're not going to get it. The report undoubtedly contains classified
    information protected by law, lots of information that could
    jeopardize
    informants and other government operatives, and information on
    innocent
    individuals the public has no right to see. What we'll see will be,
    at best, a
    heavily redacted release, which will allow you to continue to
    complain about
    how somebody's hiding something.

    If the Corruptocrats in congress get a hold of the whole report, it
    will be all over the leftist media within seconds regardless of how
    much classified or sensitive information is contained in it. Congress -
    particularly but not exclusively Corruptocrats in congress - has been
    a sieve for classified information for the past half century.

    Once it has been made public it is no longer classified.

    --Lee

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