• China Invasion of HK

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to All on Tue Aug 13 22:49:39 2019
    Hello Everybody,

    "Everyone should be calm and safe!"
    ~ US President Donald J. Trump tweet on Tuesday, 8/13/2019

    The Hong Kong airport has suspended check-ins for departing
    flights - for the second straight day - as China prepares to
    invade by massing troops (the People's Armed Police, a
    paramilitary force specializing in riot control) across the
    border in Shenzen. A Chinese official called the protests
    in Hong Kong "terrorism", a term the Chinese have used to
    justify sending in troops to repress minority Muslims in
    the far west region of Xinjiang.

    Let's hear it for the big man as he tells everybody to
    "be calm and safe" as China invades their tiny place of
    freedom. How many will die this time? China will never
    tell. Just as China never told how many died 30 years
    ago at Tianamen Square.

    Donald Trump is no defender of freedom. He is the biggest
    wimp who ever held the office of the presidency. I am truly
    ashamed he does not have the balls to stand up to tyrants as
    they continue to do what tyrants do.

    Enjoy your golf game, Mr. Trump. While the people of Hong Kong
    bury their dead.

    --Lee

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Aug 14 11:26:46 2019
    Hi, Lee Lofaso!
    I read your message from 13.08.2019 21:49

    LL> Let's hear it for the big man as he tells everybody to
    LL> "be calm and safe" as China invades their tiny place of
    LL> freedom. How many will die this time? China will never
    LL> ??tell. Just as China never told how many died 30 years
    LL> ago at Tianamen Square.
    LL>
    LL> Donald Trump is no defender of freedom. He is the biggest
    LL> wimp who ever held the office of the presidency. I am truly
    LL> ashamed he does not have the balls to stand up to tyrants as
    LL> ??they continue to do what tyrants do.
    LL>
    LL> Enjoy your golf game, Mr. Trump. While the people of Hong Kong
    LL> bury their dead.

    Did count deaths in case of big war? There is always choice between two
    evils.

    Bye, Lee!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Thu Aug 15 03:11:44 2019
    Hello Alexander,

    Let's hear it for the big man as he tells everybody to
    "be calm and safe" as China invades their tiny place of
    freedom. How many will die this time? China will never
    ??tell. Just as China never told how many died 30 years
    ago at Tianamen Square.

    Donald Trump is no defender of freedom. He is the biggest
    wimp who ever held the office of the presidency. I am truly
    ashamed he does not have the balls to stand up to tyrants as
    ??they continue to do what tyrants do.

    Enjoy your golf game, Mr. Trump. While the people of Hong Kong
    bury their dead.

    Did count deaths in case of big war? There is always choice between two evils.

    This seems to be a case of one China talking to another China.
    Which only China itself can truly understand, if it understands
    anything at all.

    China way of thinking is not same thing as how rest of world think.
    And China been around much longer as existing civilization than
    anybody else. So China should know China better than even China
    itself.

    Tianamin Square happen in 1989. Ask any Chinaman and he will tell
    you. Tianamin Square never happen. That is the only reality Chinaman
    will tell, as that is only reality he know.

    Beijing held Olympic Games. Many people around world visit Tianamin
    Square. All was peaceful. Beijing to again hold Olympic Games in
    Beijing. All will be peaceful, as before. No violence ever happen
    in such a happy place.

    China will use takeover of Hong Kong airport as excuse for imposing
    law and order throughout all of Hong Kong. No more need to extadite
    criminals to mainland. Just hang them in the local square.

    What Chinaman would ever object to that?

    --Lee

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Aug 15 12:29:47 2019
    On 15/08/2019 11:11, Lee Lofaso -> alexander koryagin wrote:
    [...]

    China will use takeover of Hong Kong airport as excuse for imposing
    law and order throughout all of Hong Kong. No more need to extadite criminals to mainland. Just hang them in the local square.

    What Chinaman would ever object to that?

    What do you imagine mainland USA would do if the peoples of Hawaii said for them to fuck off and stop trying to impose their (USAian) laws there (in Hawaii)?

    --

    Regards
    David

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Aug 15 12:15:01 2019
    Hi, Lee Lofaso!
    I read your message from 15.08.2019 02:11

    LL> China will use takeover of Hong Kong airport as excuse for
    LL> imposing law and order throughout all of Hong Kong. No more
    LL> need to extadite criminals to mainland. Just hang them in the
    LL> local square.
    LL> What Chinaman would ever object to that?

    The laws of Hong Kong allow to check real motives for extraditing. There
    is a good judicial system there, and the police follows the law. I was impressed that the Hong Kong police always announces to the protesters, "Attention, we are going to use tear gas! Please, disperse!" ;-) In
    France, for instance, the yellow vests are chocked without excessive words.

    Bye, Lee!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Paul Quinn on Thu Aug 15 13:10:08 2019
    You probably meant to say "...choked...". Both forms survive
    spell-checks, unfortunately. You might rephrase your thoughts by saying that they were not accorded the same courtesy in France, by way of comparison with HK.

    "Et alors?"

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Ward Dossche on Thu Aug 15 23:07:19 2019
    Hi! Ward,

    On 15 Aug 19 13:10, you wrote to me:

    "Et alors?"

    The man needs assistance with English. It is a joy of discovery for him still.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Thu Aug 15 22:19:17 2019
    Hello David,

    China will use takeover of Hong Kong airport as excuse for imposing
    law and order throughout all of Hong Kong. No more need to extadite
    criminals to mainland. Just hang them in the local square.

    What Chinaman would ever object to that?

    What do you imagine mainland USA would do if the peoples of Hawaii said
    for
    them to fuck off and stop trying to impose their (USAian) laws there (in Hawaii)?

    The USA would call them terrorists and go to war.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Thu Aug 15 22:20:16 2019
    Hello Alexander,

    China will use takeover of Hong Kong airport as excuse for
    imposing law and order throughout all of Hong Kong. No more
    need to extadite criminals to mainland. Just hang them in the
    local square.
    What Chinaman would ever object to that?

    The laws of Hong Kong allow to check real motives for extraditing. There is a good judicial system there, and the police follows the law. I was impressed that the Hong Kong police always announces to the protesters, "Attention, we are going to use tear gas! Please, disperse!" ;-) In France, for instance, the yellow vests are chocked without excessive
    words.

    In Chinese view, there is only one sun that rules the sky. Chinese
    sky is inclusive of Hong Kong and Taiwan and whatever else China say
    is part of China sky. It is all one China.

    At present, China is allowing Hong Kong autonomy. But only for
    as long as China want. Not up to what Hong Kong want or not want.
    All one China.

    Macau was treated same way. China had no problem letting Portuguese
    leave Macau. China had no problem letting British leave Hong Kong.
    I doubt China will have any prolem letting others leave Taiwan.

    The whole area used to be one whole China. All the same people.
    And still is, in Chinese eyes.

    --Lee

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Paul Quinn on Fri Aug 16 10:12:53 2019
    Hi, Paul Quinn!
    I read your message from 15.08.2019 12:16

    ak>> The laws of Hong Kong allow to check real motives for extraditing.
    ak>> There is a good judicial system there, and the police follows the
    ak>> law. I was impressed that the Hong Kong police always announces to
    ak>> the protesters, "Attention, we are going to use tear gas! Please,
    ak>> disperse!" ;-) In France, for instance, the yellow vests are
    ak>> chocked without excessive words.

    PQ> You probably meant to say "... choked...". Both forms survive
    PQ> spell-checks, unfortunately. You might rephrase your thoughts by
    PQ> saying that they were not accorded the same courtesy in France, by
    PQ> way of comparison with HK.

    Yeah, choked, I messed up, as usual. ;)

    Bye, Paul!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Aug 16 10:47:55 2019
    Hi, Lee Lofaso!
    I read your message from 15.08.2019 21:20

    ak>> The laws of Hong Kong allow to check real motives for extraditing.
    ak>> There is a good judicial system there, and the police follows the
    ak>> law. I was impressed that the Hong Kong police always announces to
    ak>> the protesters, "Attention, we are going to use tear gas! Please,
    ak>> disperse!" ;-) In France, for instance, the yellow vests are
    ak>> chocked without excessive words.

    LL> In Chinese view, there is only one sun that rules the sky. Chinese
    LL> sky is inclusive of Hong Kong and Taiwan and whatever else China
    LL> say is part of China sky. It is all one China.

    LL> At present, China is allowing Hong Kong autonomy. But only for as
    LL> long as China want. Not up to what Hong Kong want or not want. All
    LL> one China.

    LL> Macau was treated same way. China had no problem letting Portuguese
    LL> leave Macau. China had no problem letting British leave Hong Kong.
    LL> I doubt China will have any prolem letting others leave Taiwan.

    LL> The whole area used to be one whole China. All the same people. And
    LL> still is, in Chinese eyes.

    In any case, the problem of extradition criminals to China has been
    fanned artificially.

    Bye, Lee!
    Alexander Koryagin
    fido7.fidonews 2019

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Sat Aug 17 22:40:46 2019
    Hello Alexander,

    The laws of Hong Kong allow to check real motives for extraditing.
    There is a good judicial system there, and the police follows the
    law. I was impressed that the Hong Kong police always announces to
    the protesters, "Attention, we are going to use tear gas! Please,
    disperse!" ;-) In France, for instance, the yellow vests are
    chocked without excessive words.

    In Chinese view, there is only one sun that rules the sky. Chinese
    sky is inclusive of Hong Kong and Taiwan and whatever else China
    say is part of China sky. It is all one China.

    At present, China is allowing Hong Kong autonomy. But only for as
    long as China want. Not up to what Hong Kong want or not want. All
    one China.

    Macau was treated same way. China had no problem letting Portuguese
    leave Macau. China had no problem letting British leave Hong Kong.
    I doubt China will have any prolem letting others leave Taiwan.

    The whole area used to be one whole China. All the same people. And
    still is, in Chinese eyes.

    In any case, the problem of extradition criminals to China has been
    fanned artificially.

    Yes, it has. For many Chinese in Hong Kong it is an emotional issue.
    They love being an autonomous part of China, but do not want China
    dictating to them how to run their own affairs. Being Chinese, they
    also do not want to war with their own people. It is like, if they
    burn, they all burn together. Chinese and Chinese alike.

    Egging protesters on to continue protesting does nobody any good.
    The airport has been shut down for days as a result. China will not
    allow this to continue for much longer.

    The issue of extradition of criminal suspects to the mainland is
    an issue that can be settled peacefully without resorting to violence.
    The protesters should be encouraged to stand down and allow the two
    sides to come to an agreement that would be fair for all.

    --Lee

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Aug 18 18:49:03 2019
    Hi, Lee Lofaso!
    I read your message from 17.08.2019 21:40

    ak>>>> The laws of Hong Kong allow to check real motives for
    ak>>>> extraditing. There is a good judicial system there, and the

    <skipped>

    ak>> In any case, the problem of extradition criminals to China has
    ak>> been fanned artificially.

    LL> Yes, it has. For many Chinese in Hong Kong it is an emotional
    LL> issue. They love being an autonomous part of China, but do not want
    LL> China dictating to them how to run their own affairs. Being
    LL> Chinese, they also do not want to war with their own people. It is
    LL> like, if they burn, they all burn together. Chinese and Chinese
    LL> alike.

    LL> Egging protesters on to continue protesting does nobody any good.
    LL> The airport has been shut down for days as a result. China will not
    LL> allow this to continue for much longer.

    LL> The issue of extradition of criminal suspects to the mainland is an
    LL> issue that can be settled peacefully without resorting to violence.
    LL> The protesters should be encouraged to stand down and allow the two
    LL> sides to come to an agreement that would be fair for all.

    It would be understandable if the protests sparked when a certain
    politician was extradited to China as a criminal. But the protests
    sparked when China wanted to get from Hong-Kong a real gruesome killer.

    Bye, Lee!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Sun Aug 18 22:25:27 2019
    Hello Alexander,

    The laws of Hong Kong allow to check real motives for
    extraditing. There is a good judicial system there, and the

    <skipped>

    In any case, the problem of extradition criminals to China has
    been fanned artificially.

    Yes, it has. For many Chinese in Hong Kong it is an emotional
    issue. They love being an autonomous part of China, but do not want
    China dictating to them how to run their own affairs. Being
    Chinese, they also do not want to war with their own people. It is
    like, if they burn, they all burn together. Chinese and Chinese
    alike.

    Egging protesters on to continue protesting does nobody any good.
    The airport has been shut down for days as a result. China will not
    allow this to continue for much longer.

    The issue of extradition of criminal suspects to the mainland is an
    issue that can be settled peacefully without resorting to violence.
    The protesters should be encouraged to stand down and allow the two
    sides to come to an agreement that would be fair for all.

    It would be understandable if the protests sparked when a certain politician was extradited to China as a criminal. But the protests
    sparked when China wanted to get from Hong-Kong a real gruesome killer.

    Some people (mainly Brits and Aussies) outside of Hong Kong and China
    are using this as an excuse in order to stir up trouble. Their fear
    is that the Chinese could use this change in order to try non-Chinese
    on the mainland rather than in Hong Kong.

    Macau is part of China, not Portugal.
    Hong Kong is part of China, not the UK.
    Taiwan is whatever Taiwan says it is.

    --Lee

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