OMG, it's dead on.
http://felten.se/prediction.jpg
The above back-cover is from a book from 1935 by Sinclair Lewis.
"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't."
-- Mark Twain
OMG, it's dead on.
Really? You think so?
But what happened to the first part?
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0301001h.html
Ah! There it is! The whole story! Minus the back cover ...
And I had always thought "1984" was fiction ...
OMG, it's dead on.
Really? You think so?
Yeup. Don't you?
But what happened to the first part?
What first part?
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0301001h.html
Thanks for that. Have you read it yet?
Ah! There it is! The whole story! Minus the back cover ...
It sure is! What a treat.
And I had always thought "1984" was fiction ...
It was. By then. But now is now and far from then.
OMG, it's dead on.
http://felten.se/prediction.jpg
So no, I do not think your newspaper clipping stands up, I think it falls flat and makes what your trying to say looking like a fool.
OMG, it's dead on.
http://felten.se/prediction.jpg
It's 180 degrees in the opposite direction, how do you explain all the success that Donald Trump has provided through his leadership,
the economy is pretty great here in America.
Trade deals and the stubborn Chinese are forced to pay Billions.
So no, I do not think your newspaper clipping stands up, I think it flat and makes what your trying to say looking like a fool.
I just spent about a month in the greater Yakima area, Washington. It seemed to me Spanish is the main language there.
Plus I encounter less and less hardcore Trump supporters.
The economy doing great is a mantra.
On 2019 Aug 05 06:59:28, you wrote to Bj”rn Felten:th
OMG, it's dead on.
http://felten.se/prediction.jpg
It's 180 degrees in the opposite direction, how do you explain all
success that Donald Trump has provided through his leadership,
what success? the success he's had a taking $$$ from US citizens and lining his own pockets with? the $$$ he's spending on his golfing at his own courses that he bitched about obama doing?
no they're not... WE are paying those tariffs... all trump did was make the cost of those products go up and since we have to pay the cost,
guess who suffers... certainly not the chinese...
ml> What is a tariff and who pays it?
Tariffs are a tax on imports. They are paid by U.S.-registered firms to U.S. customs for the goods they import into the United States. Importers often pass the costs of tariffs on to customers - manufacturers and consumers in the United States - by raising their prices.
President Trump stands defiant and is not going to allow this nation tobe
played like in years gone by.
The new interest rate and Trump's escalated trade war with the world is showing:
https://goldprice.org/
We are all hardcore, but there is no such thing as someone in a maga hat going out of his/her to attack someone wearing democratic garb that exist for one of the 20+ candidates who are running for President.
Did you enjoy your time in Washington state? You say you spent a month there, so I assume you did. or it might of been all business leaving
little time for pleasure.
https://goldprice.org/
Only today it went up more than 1% so far.
Bj”rn Felten wrote to All <=-
https://goldprice.org/
Only today it went up more than 1% so far.
It's not even 12:00 NY time and it's now already up 2.1%. I
wonder how this day will end...
THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
happen.THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
Maybe not the sky, but the dollar. And it was the Trump that made it
take a wheelbarrow to the market for a few moldy biscuits if they even have any that are still edible...
It's probably no coincident that the gold price has been going up steadily for more than a year, more than 5% in just 30 days. The new interest rate and Trump's escalated trade war with the world is showing:that
https://goldprice.org/
Only today it went up more than 1% so far. That's huge on a market
rarely see more than fractions of a percentage per day. More and moremajor
investors are selling out their dollars before it crashes completely. And they have to do it a small step at a time, to recover most of theirlosses.
have any that are still edible...take a wheelbarrow to the market for a few moldy biscuits if they even
Unless you have some gold stached away. You can probably buy the entiresupermarket for just a few small bullions...
thishttps://goldprice.org/
Only today it went up more than 1% so far.
It's not even 12:00 NY time and it's now already up 2.1%. I wonder how
day will end...
We are all hardcore, but there is no such thing as someone in a maga hat
going out of his/her to attack someone wearing democratic garb that exist
for one of the 20+ candidates who are running for President.
The inventor of the maga-hat did it himself in the aftermath of shootings #249 250 and 251 blaming it on the Democrats.
America. IDid you enjoy your time in Washington state? You say you spent a month
there, so I assume you did. or it might of been all business leaving
little time for pleasure.
For years I've been donating time and effort to the Boy Scouts of
owe them a lot.
The whole month of July I worked at Camp Fife BSA in Goose Prairie Washington between Yakima and Mount Rainier. Extremely nice countrysidebut
no phone service, no power, no internet and when banks and businessesmake
you switch to the internet for whatever need you have, it becomes tough. Being disconnected is nice, but not for a month.
happen.THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
Maybe not the sky, but the dollar. And it was the Trump that made it
There is no question we have a sick society. But the USA is not
alone. Norway had a fellow who went off the rails wiping out 60+
kids as his means of protest. And none of them were black, brown,
or Mexican.
Yes. The dollar will fall.
But not before the euro.
Long live the British pound!
President Trump stands defiant and is not going to allow this nation played like in years gone by.
You obviously is one of the few Trump hugging fanatics remaining.
Many of your former like-minded have already seen, that the Emperor has
no clothes.
exWe are all hardcore, but there is no such thing as someone in a maga going out of his/her to attack someone wearing democratic garb that
for one of the 20+ candidates who are running for President.
The inventor of the maga-hat did it himself in the aftermath of
shootings #249 250 and 251 blaming it on the Democrats.
For years I've been donating time and effort to the Boy Scouts ofDid you enjoy your time in Washington state?
America. I owe them a lot.
Yes. The dollar will fall.
But not before the euro.
That can very well happen, but only because the FED has so much gold deposited by around 60 Central Banks throughout the world in their
vaults, that I doubt they will hesitate to use themselves.
The value of gold is also determined by the fact it is hard to get (mine), and there is relatively little of it on earth compared to other elements.
The value of gold is also determined by the fact it is hard to get
(mine), and there is relatively little of it on earth compared to
other elements.
The paper money is much easier to create, or those numbers in your
bank account can be created at no effort at all, by a push of the
button.
So maybe you think gold has little intrinsic value. The intrinsic
value of those numbers in your bankaccount is 0.
If that happens I rather have gold than numbers in a bankaccount, of a bank that no longer excists...
happen.THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
Maybe not the sky, but the dollar. And it was the Trump that made it
vaults,Yes. The dollar will fall.
But not before the euro.
That can very well happen, but only because the FED has so much gold deposited by around 60 Central Banks throughout the world in their
that I doubt they will hesitate to use themselves.
Many currencies are so intertwined they'll probably all fall together.
Long live the British pound!
I doubt that it will survive much longer than any other major currency,
even though BoE also has a lot of deposited gold from other countries.
They e.g. just recently denied Venezuela from getting their goldrepatriated
on demand -- seemingly after pressure by the Trump administration.
There is no question we have a sick society. But the USA is not
alone. Norway had a fellow who went off the rails wiping out 60+
kids as his means of protest. And none of them were black, brown,
or Mexican.
That was a single event over 8 years ago.
The USA has had over 250 shootings alone this year.
And what happens when countries that have gold being held for them
by the USA want to have that gold returned, and the USA cannot find
it?
Gregory Deyss wrote to mark lewis <=-
With Obama he did also golf, but did not get much done and he was in office for 8 years.
no they're not... WE are paying those tariffs... all trump did was make the cost of those products go up and since we have to pay the cost,
guess who suffers... certainly not the chinese...
Sure they are and the Chinese are not happy about either, this is also
why they are devaluing their currency again as they have done for
yeas, to try to counter the tariffs.
it fallsSo no, I do not think your newspaper clipping stands up, I think
It seemedflat and makes what your trying to say looking like a fool.
I just spent about a month in the greater Yakima area, Washington.
to me Spanish is the main language there.
steadilyThe economy doing great is a mantra.
It's probably no coincident that the gold price has been going up
for more than a year, more than 5% in just 30 days. The new interestrate and
Trump's escalated trade war with the world is showing:
https://goldprice.org/
it happen.THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
Maybe not the sky, but the dollar. And it was the Trump that made
Re: The Trump economy is doing greatthey even
By: Bjÿrn Felten to mark lewis on Wed Aug 07 2019 19:32:51
take a wheelbarrow to the market for a few moldy biscuits if
have any that are still edible...the entire
Unless you have some gold stached away. You can probably buy
supermarket for just a few small bullions...finishing
that's now... above i'm speaking of what will be happening once they
destroying everything and drive the dollar into the shit...
Actually it was the fact that the US government is fiscally
irresponsible and has been literally bankrupt for over 30 years.
The paper money is much easier to create, or those numbers in your
bank account can be created at no effort at all, by a push of the
button.
So maybe you think gold has little intrinsic value. The intrinsic
value of those numbers in your bankaccount is 0.
If that happens I rather have gold than numbers in a bankaccount, of
a bank that no longer excists...
success that Donald Trump has provided through his leadership,
what success? the success he's had a taking $$$ from US citizens and
lining his own pockets with? the $$$ he's spending on his golfing at
his own courses that he bitched about obama doing?
Yes he does play golf, but that's the thing about this President.
You can have your cake and eat it too when you get things done.
With Obama he did also golf, but did not get much done and he was in office for 8 years.
President Trump stands defiant and is not going to allow this nation tobe
played like in years gone by.
You obviously is one of the few Trump hugging fanatics remaining.
Many of your former like-minded have already seen, that the Emperor
has no clothes.
We are far from few, the world will find out after election day what the numbers are, I can guarantee you, we are far from the few.
rightThe inventor of the maga-hat did it himself in the aftermath of
shootings #249 250 and 251 blaming it on the Democrats.
There were many tragedies under Obama, no one blamed him, it was the
call then, just as it wrong to blame this Presidents for the recentevents.
A madman with a gun tried to murder several Republican politicians at a baseball game in a public park, no one called for gun control then.
How incredibly stupid of us after all those many thousands of years.
At least we've discovered the relationship between supply and demand...
he'ssuccess that Donald Trump has provided through his leadership,
what success? the success he's had a taking $$$ from US citizens and
lining his own pockets with? the $$$ he's spending on his golfing at
his own courses that he bitched about obama doing?
Yes he does play golf, but that's the thing about this President.
You can have your cake and eat it too when you get things done.
the problem is that he's using taxpayer $$$ to pay for those trips AND
making profit off those same $$$... *THAT* is what is wrong...
With Obama he did also golf, but did not get much done and he was in
office for 8 years.
obama also didn't profit monetarily from those trips... then there's also this...
President Obama should have gone to Louisiana days ago, instead ofgolfing.
Too little, too late!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 23, 2016
that'sAnd what happens when countries that have gold being held for them
by the USA want to have that gold returned, and the USA cannot find
it?
Then they will have to buy "replacement" gold on the market... Maybe
a factor in the current price going up? ;)
On 08-09-19 13:31, Mark Lewis <=-
spoke to Gregory Deyss about 'It Can't Happen Here' <=-
The paper money is much easier to create, or those numbers in
your bank account can be created at no effort at all, by a push
of the button.
As is creating gold...
It depends largly on the kind of collapse. But untill such a thing happens, gold (and related products), is just another asset class you
can invest in, with some unique properties, because it has little correlation to the value of other assets.
It can protect against inflation and devaluation of your currency.
If that happens I rather have gold than numbers in a
bankaccount, of a bank that no longer excists...
Gold was valuable in the dark ages...
How likely is a full collapse? If you think it isn't very likely, gold
is a usefull investment.
And it's hard to protect yourself against a full collapse. Valuable
things when such a thing happens, are knowledge about how to survive
under such circumstances, and weapons.
These help to protect your other assets that will help you survive, or aquire them when you don't have them. But it's very hard (in Europe)
to have these kind of weapons (== illegal).
And knowledge takes a lot of time to study and practise. Time better
spend on learning about how to invest in gold, if you don't think a
full collapse is likely. ;)
You have managed to amass quite a list of quotes here. The one that I
do not see is when he said at a campaign rally before he was elected was that [paraphrased] Obama plays golf too much, when I am president I
won't be playing golf at all --- I'll be working.
As is creating gold...
It depends largly on the kind of collapse. But untill such a thing
happens, gold (and related products), is just another asset class you
can invest in, with some unique properties, because it has little
correlation to the value of other assets.
It can protect against inflation and devaluation of your currency.
If that happens I rather have gold than numbers in a
bankaccount, of a bank that no longer excists...
Gold was valuable in the dark ages...
How likely is a full collapse? If you think it isn't very likely, gold
is a usefull investment.
And it's hard to protect yourself against a full collapse. Valuable
things when such a thing happens, are knowledge about how to survive
under such circumstances, and weapons.
These help to protect your other assets that will help you survive, or
aquire them when you don't have them. But it's very hard (in Europe)
to have these kind of weapons (== illegal).
And knowledge takes a lot of time to study and practise. Time better
spend on learning about how to invest in gold, if you don't think a
full collapse is likely. ;)
It depends largly on the kind of collapse. But untill such a thing
happens, gold (and related products), is just another asset class you
can invest in, with some unique properties, because it has little
correlation to the value of other assets.
Gold was valuable in the dark ages...
How likely is a full collapse? If you think it isn't very likely,
gold is a usefull investment.
These help to protect your other assets that will help you survive,
or aquire them when you don't have them. But it's very hard (in
Europe) to have these kind of weapons (== illegal).
On 2019 Aug 07 07:15:20, you wrote to me:and
success that Donald Trump has provided through his leadership,
what success? the success he's had a taking $$$ from US citizens
atlining his own pockets with? the $$$ he's spending on his golfing
his own courses that he bitched about obama doing?
Yes he does play golf, but that's the thing about this President.
You can have your cake and eat it too when you get things done.
the problem is that he's using taxpayer $$$ to pay for those trips AND he's making profit off those same $$$... *THAT* is what is wrong...
With Obama he did also golf, but did not get much done and he was in office for 8 years.
obama also didn't profit monetarily from those trips... then there's also this...
President Obama should have gone to Louisiana days ago, instead of golfing. Too little, too late!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 23, 2016
While our wonderful president was out playing golf all day, the TSA
is falling apart, just like our government! Airports a total disaster!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 21, 2016
"@YankeeRunnerLV:Can U trick Obama into appearing on @ApprenticeNBC
by telling him Golf is involved so you can do Country a favor& FIRE HIM!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2015
"@mooovin_on: No Bush, no Clinton, no RINOs, no golfing, no more handouts!! It's got to be @realDonaldTrump. Time for #Trump2016"
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 24, 2014
Obama has admitted that he spends his mornings watching @ESPN. Then
he plays golf, fundraises & grants amnesty to illegals.
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 16, 2014
President Obama has a major meeting on the N.Y.C. Ebola outbreak,
with people flying in from all over the country, but decided to play
golf! -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 24, 2014
"@nikkio: DonaldTrump: Only way to get Obama to do right for our Marine would be for every country club across USA to deny him golf access
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 21, 2014
We pay for Obama's travel so he can fundraise millions so Democrats can run on lies. Then we pay for his golf.
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 14, 2014
Can you believe that,with all of the problems and difficulties
facing the U.S., President Obama spent the day playing golf.Worse than Carter -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 14, 2014
Can you believe we still have not gotten our Marine out of Mexico.
He sits in prison while our PRESIDENT plays golf and makes bad decisions!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 26, 2014
"@Kalozap: Obama's mind, IsIs, ebola, etc.... and then thinking, boy
I wish I was on the golf coarse. What should I wear on the Links"
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 11, 2014
If Obama resigns from office NOW, thereby doing a great service to
the country--I will give him free lifetime golf at any one of my courses!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 10, 2014
"@TheBigJamesG: What kind of president doesn't get playing golf
after a cruel beheading isn't the thing to do? Detached from reality he is" -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 9, 2014
"@__________IAN: "No one respects golf more than me, but there is a time and place for everything"- Mr.Trump hitting the nail on the head!"
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 8, 2014
"@BackOnTrackUSA: @realDonaldTrump While Obama vacations,golfs, attends parties & jazz concerts, ISIS is chopping heads off of journalists." -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 20, 2014
"@jeff_smith7: @realDonaldTrump Maybe Perry can put in a 9 hole golf course on the banks of the Rio Grande to lure Obama to see the border?"
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 11, 2014
President Obama played golf yesterday???
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 18, 2013
"@gretawire: PresObama is not busy talking to Congress about
Syria..he is playing golf ...go figure"
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 8, 2013
"@pellscuse11: @realDonaldTrump Who plays more golf, yourself or the President? My money is on POTUS." You win!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 21, 2013
My @foxandfriends interview discussing Pres. Obama playing golf w/@TigerWoods, US Airways-American merger & oil http://t.co/C868hkJf
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 19, 2013
Obama should play golf with Republicans & opponents rather than his small group of friends. That way maybe the terrible gridlock would end.
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 19, 2012
Too busy playing golf? @BarackObama sends form letters with an electronic signature to the parents of fallen SEALs http://t.co/ELKcqTyr
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 30, 2012
23rd Jul 2012 from Twitlonger: Who else could take 16 vacations,
play over 100 rounds of golf and hold over 300 fundraisers while serving as POTUS besides @BarackObama--& not one jobs meeting.
I don't mind that @BarackObama plays a lot of golf. I just wish he used it productively to make deals with Congress!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 18, 2012
I play golf to relax. My company is in great shape. @BarackObama
plays golf to escape work while America goes down the drain.
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 30, 2011
Yesterday @BarackObama actually spent a full day in Washington. He didn't campaign, fund raise or play golf. Shocking.
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 22, 2011
@BarackObama played golf yesterday. Now he heads to a 10 day
vacation in Martha's Vineyard. Nice work ethic.
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 15, 2011
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President Trump stands defiant and is not going to allow this nation played like in years gone by.
You have managed to amass quite a list of quotes here.
The one that I do not see is when he said at a campaign rally before
he was elected was that [paraphrased] Obama plays golf too much, when
I am president I won't be playing golf at all --- I'll be working.
Yes he does play golf, but that's the thing about this President.
You can have your cake and eat it too when you get things done.
the problem is that he's using taxpayer $$$ to pay for those trips
AND he's making profit off those same $$$... *THAT* is what is
wrong...
How is he making money when he just so happens to own the courses that
he is playing on?
[chomp]
All great points proving that Obama was a lousy President, as shown by previous tweets by Donald Trump.
Gold was valuable in the dark ages...
That was true for everything that was used to store value.
How likely is a full collapse? If you think it isn't very
likely, gold is a usefull investment.
I don't know how that is with regular banks where you can have a gold account, but that's not true for firms that specialise in precious
metal accounts. They store and insure the gold that you are the owner
of, and you pay them a fee to do so. When they go bankrupt it's still
your gold and not part of the assets of that bank that needs to be
devided between the creditors of that bank.
It isn't all about being faster than the other. It's about skill to
use the weapons, and being able seem like a threat to the other, so
they go find an easier target. That isn't all about age...
I don't know how that is with regular banks where you can have a gold
account, but that's not true for firms that specialise in precious
metal accounts. They store and insure the gold that you are the owner
of, and you pay them a fee to do so. When they go bankrupt it's still
your gold and not part of the assets of that bank that needs to be
devided between the creditors of that bank.
It isn't all about being faster than the other. It's about skill to
use the weapons, and being able seem like a threat to the other, so
they go find an easier target. That isn't all about age...
Why, if it's worthless according to you?
Yes he does play golf, but that's the thing about this President.
You can have your cake and eat it too when you get things done.
the problem is that he's using taxpayer $$$ to pay for those trips
AND he's making profit off those same $$$... *THAT* is what is
wrong...
How is he making money when he just so happens to own the courses that
he is playing on?
you just answered your own question...
To be able to survive at all, you will at least need a more or less
stable food supply. Which is valuable in those circumstances. And you
will be the easier target. If you are lucky they will only tax you for
a percentage, in return for your live and maybe protection... ;)
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