Can I ask, is the bot software available for me to test out here? There are some local echos that I?d love to make available from my bbs. There are many people who are not interested in using FidoNet but use Telegram all the time
Can I ask, is the bot software available for me to test out here?
There are many
people who are not interested in using FidoNet but use Telegram all the time
Netmail-to-Telegram address: 474405162@2:460/256
... Tag, you are IT!
Today it is easier and faster to feed my node with these echoes. I have a link from 4: 90/1.
Can I ask, is the bot software available for me to test out here?
Stas mentioned that he was hoping to release a snippet of it in March. It's a
work of perfection.. still in progress! :D
There are many
people who are not interested in using FidoNet but use Telegram all the time
Do you think it is primarily because they don't like to use full-size computers
anymore? Although the Telegram+bridge provides universal access to fido on all
devices, the full fido experience is with programs that can facilitate inter-message quoting, longer messages using a full-size keyboard, etc.
Netmail-to-Telegram address: 474405162@2:460/256
... Tag, you are IT!
Signature (ie %conclusion) looks good.
--*From:* _August Abolins 1:153/757.2_--
work of perfection.. still in progress! :DCan I ask, is the bot software available for me to test out here?
Stas mentioned that he was hoping to release a snippet of it in March. It's a
anymore?There are many
people who are not interested in using FidoNet but use Telegram all the time
Do you think it is primarily because they don't like to use full-size computers
Although the Telegram+bridge provides universal access to fido on all devices, the full fido experience is with programs that can facilitate inter-message quoting, longer messages using a full-size keyboard, etc.
Netmail-to-Telegram address: 474405162@2:460/256
... Tag, you are IT!
Do you think it is primarily because they don't
like to use full-size computers anymore?
Lots of people don?t even have computers.
They only have phones.
Although the Telegram+bridge provides
universal access to fido on all devices,
the full fido experience is with programs
that can facilitate inter-message quoting,
longer messages using a full-size keyboard, etc.
And if you?re a ?power user? (aka know what
you?re doing) none of that matters ?
> I?d like to see the direct address somehow. I had
> to get someone to forward me a raw message to get
> my TUGID . Maybe it could be added as part of the
> tagline?
Or.. you could just view it yourself in the fido
header/kludges part in any linked echo on your system.
Re tagline.. You can just design what you want
using %conclusion.
Do you think it is primarily because they don't
like to use full-size computers anymore?
Lots of people don?t even have computers.
They only have phones.
It does seem to be progressing to that on the
horizon. Many young people are quite proficient
typists just using their thumbs. :/
For me, an external keyboard on a device would
be best.
Although the Telegram+bridge provides
universal access to fido on all devices,
the full fido experience is with programs
that can facilitate inter-message quoting,
longer messages using a full-size keyboard, etc.
And if you?re a ?power user? (aka know what
you?re doing) none of that matters ?
Yes.. I see what you mean. You copy-pasted the
original block and inter-quoted as you liked.
Or.. you could just view it yourself in the fido
header/kludges part in any linked echo on your system.
Re tagline.. You can just design what you want using %conclusion.
And if you?re a ?power user? (aka know what
you?re doing) none of that matters ?
Yes.. I see what you mean. You copy-pasted the original block and inter-quoted as you liked.
Or.. you could just view it yourself in the
fido header/kludges part in any linked echo
on your system.
No. I?m talking about catering for people who
are NOT on a BBS
Re tagline.. You can just design what you want
using %conclusion.
Sure. What I?m saying though is that for people
who have no idea what this is all about, include
it automatically.
Yes.. I see what you mean. You copy-pasted theoriginal block and inter-quoted as you liked.
Exactly
Or.. you could just view it yourself in the
fido header/kludges part in any linked echo
on your system.
No. I?m talking about catering for people who
are NOT on a BBS
But the TGUID # is meaningless to those people who
are NOT an a BBS.
Re tagline.. You can just design what you want
using %conclusion.
Sure. What I?m saying though is that for people
who have no idea what this is all about, include
it automatically.
BBS-people, or Telegram-people?
Yes.. I see what you mean. You copy-pasted theoriginal block and inter-quoted as you liked.
Exactly
Well.. as you can probably tell if you look at your
own replies that you originate from Telegram, the
system does a modest good job of top-quoting the
original message.
Let me see if I understand this correctly. The TGUID is an
automated user created on the BBS hosting the robot?
So, in theory, If the concept of the robot was taken
further, then each BBS could implement the gateway, and
have their local BBS user ID <-linked -> Telegram number,
so addresses could be figured out programmaticly at the BBS
and gated accordingly.
The way it is now, this is running on a test basis, so we
have to use the bot (%userinfo) to register our information
which essentially creates a new user account on 2:460/256?
With a roll out of the gateway software, I would install it
so that my users would be able to get gated telegram
messages at <local user number>@4:920/1 ?
Does that about describe it?
Hello John Dovey!
** On Friday 07.05.21 - 00:28, John Dovey wrote to August Abolins:
Let me see if I understand this correctly. The TGUID is an
automated user created on the BBS hosting the robot?
Stas would clearly be the best person to answer.. hope he jumps
in.
But I *do* know that the TGUID is actually the id that the
Telegram system creates to identify you. Stat's bot simply
leverages it to help redirect incoming netmail to the correct
Telegram user.
So, in theory, If the concept of the robot was taken
further, then each BBS could implement the gateway, and
have their local BBS user ID <-linked -> Telegram number,
so addresses could be figured out programmaticly at the BBS
and gated accordingly.
That sounds about right, I think.
The way it is now, this is running on a test basis, so we
have to use the bot (%userinfo) to register our information
which essentially creates a new user account on 2:460/256?
No. Stas implemented the "register" process to steer people to
the features of %userprofile (ie, %help, %list, etc). Once a
user talks to @Fido2telegram bot and optionally designs a
signature, a welcome message, etc, the bridge from Telegram-to-
Fido opens.
With a roll out of the gateway software, I would install it
so that my users would be able to get gated telegram
messages at <local user number>@4:920/1 ?
Are you referring to netmail? The <tguid>@4:920/1 would be
something your gateway software implementation would use to
steer any netmail to the correct Telegram user. Otherwise, the
tguid is probably not used when Telegram users have simply
"joined" the group that is linked with an echo.
Does that about describe it?
Perhaps Stas (@BroRabbit) can correct me if necessary and
elaborate on anything else.
--
../|ug
Thanks August
BTW.. are you just using Telegram on a phone? If so, I suppose you can tilt the phone to landscape and get a wider reading window? I have the app on several devices. The Blackberry has a 2"x2" screen, so I limited to a fairly narrow message panel. But most of the time I like to use the desktop version of the app on my laptop pcs primarily because a proper keyboard is so much better for typing more than three 5-word sentences! :D
Yes, on a phone. Using the desktop app kinda defeats the whole purpose IMHO because then I may as well use one of the BBS clients
Ah... then you haven't discovered the a-ha moment when you have Telegram on more than one device! ;) For me, the desktop app may be the primary (but that's just limited to THAT device), but it's pretty cool to continue a conversation or get notifications when the phone is with me. Both devices are in synch. You can start a message on one device, change to another device mid-way if that is more convenient for any reason, and resume the same message.
No, I wasn?t clear. Of course I *have* it on my desktop, but I?m testing *this* on my phone.
Today it is easier and faster to feed my node with these echoes. I have
a link from 4: 90/1.
Are you poised to support any othernets?
--*From:* _August Abolins 1:153/757.2_--
I?d like to see the direct address somehow. I had to get someone to forward me a raw message to get my TUGID . Maybe it could be added as part of the tagline?
But the TGUID # is meaningless to those people who
are NOT an a BBS.
No, I wasn?t clear. Of course I *have* it on my desktop, but I?m testing *this* on my phone.
So, in theory, If the concept of the robot was taken
further, then each BBS could implement the gateway, and
have their local BBS user ID <-linked -> Telegram number,
so addresses could be figured out programmaticly at the BBS
and gated accordingly.
That sounds about right, I think.
No. Stas implemented the "register" process to steer people to
the features of %userprofile (ie, %help, %list, etc). Once a
user talks to @Fido2telegram bot and optionally designs a
signature, a welcome message, etc, the bridge from Telegram-to-
Fido opens.
That sounds about right, I think.
No. It is wrong. It is an unique ID in Telegram.
No. Stas implemented the "register" process to steer
people to the features of %userprofile (ie, %help, %list,
etc). Once a user talks to @Fido2telegram bot and
optionally designs a signature, a welcome message, etc,
the bridge from Telegram-to-Fido opens.
This is done so that random people and just hooligans cannot write in Fido. Everything is like a regular BBS.
Re: Re: Can I ask, is the bot software available for me to test out here?
By: August Abolins to John Dovey on Thu May 06 2021 13:34:41
Testing here too ...
BoonDock
===
* El Gato de Fuego * 4:92/69 (FidoNet) * Pedasi, Panama
John
... Laugh and the world laughs with you, snore and you sleep alone.
Hi BoonDock,
On 2021-05-08 11:33:24, you wrote to August Abolins:
@MSGID: 24.fidonet_fidonett@4:920/69 24fbf36c
@REPLY: 681.fido-telegram@1:153/757.2 24f98b8a
@PID: Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 Sep 20 2020 MSC 1927
@TZUTC: -0500
@TID: SBBSecho 3.11-Win32 r3.177 Sep 20 2020 MSC 1927
@CHRS: ASCII 1
@NOTE: SlyEdit 1.73 (2020-03-31) (ICE style)
Re: Re: Can I ask, is the bot software available for me to test out here?
By: August Abolins to John Dovey on Thu May 06 2021 13:34:41
Testing here too ...
BoonDock
===
* El Gato de Fuego * 4:92/69 (FidoNet) * Pedasi, Panama
John
... Laugh and the world laughs with you, snore and you sleep alone.
--- SBBSecho 3.11-Win32
* Origin: El Gato de Fuego - Pedasi, Panama - 4:920/69 (4:920/69)
SEEN-BY: 30/0 124/5016 203/0 221/0 1 6 240/1120 261/38 280/464 301/0
SEEN-BY: 301/1 101 113 123 812 396/45 460/58 920/1 5058/104
@PATH: 301/1 280/464
I find it strange your node number isn't in the seen-by's and path line. Is there seenby (and path) stripping going on? :-(
Bye, Wilfred.
I find it strange your node number isn't in the seen-by's and path line. Is there seenby (and path) stripping going on? :-(
Today it is easier and faster to feed my node with these
echoes. I have a link from 4: 90/1.
Are you poised to support any othernets?
I don't think there is any deep meaning in this.
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