Hi, All!

%HELP and %LIST are now available. Commands are recognized in chat with Fido2telebot.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, All!

%HELP and %LIST are now available. Commands are recognized in chat with Fido2telebot.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

Very NICE! Works well. Thanks for that feature.


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Hi, All!

%HELP and %LIST are now available. Commands are recognized in chat with Fido2telebot.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

I can confirm it's working from the Telegram side...


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I can confirm it's working from the Telegram side...

I only tried uppercase. Does it work with lowercase?


--- tg BBS v0.6.3
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I only tried uppercase. Does it work with lowercase?

I also only tried uppercase... ?


--- tg BBS v0.6.3
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Hi, All!

%HELP and %LIST are now available. Commands are recognized in chat with Fido2telebot.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

OH! ..just one tiny detail. The %HELP message should probably include %HELP and %LIST as commands options well. :-)


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OH! ..just one tiny detail. The %HELP message should probably include %HELP and %LIST as commands options well. :-)

Ooops, I meant to write "The %HELP message should probably include %HELP and %LIST as commands options AS well. :-)


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Hi, Wilfred!

30 ﭢ 21 20:05, Wilfred van Velzen -> Stas Mishchenkov:

%HELP and %LIST are now available. Commands are recognized in chat
with
Fido2telebot.

I can confirm it's working from the Telegram side...

It desined for the Telegram side only.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, August!

30 ﭢ 21 20:06, August Abolins -> Wilfred van Velzen:

I can confirm it's working from the Telegram side...

I only tried uppercase. Does it work with lowercase?

It is case insensitive.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, August!

30 ﭢ 21 20:32, August Abolins -> stas mishchenkov:

Ooops, I meant to write "The %HELP message should probably include
%HELP and %LIST as commands options AS well. :-)

Thanks. I fixed this. ;)

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, All!

%HELP and %LIST are now available. Commands are recognized in chat with Fido2telebot.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

Great job. Thanks from my side as well :)


--- tg BBS v0.6.3
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Hi, All!

%HELP and %LIST are now available. Commands are recognized in chat with Fido2telebot.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

Would it be conceivable to add %QUERY and %UNLINKED too?


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Hi, Henrik!

02 䥢 21 03:13, Henrik -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Would it be conceivable to add %QUERY and %UNLINKED too?

I will think if it is possible to implement it. The fact is that for this I need to get a list of group members, and the bot did not have such an opportunity.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hello Stas!

** On Tuesday 02.02.21 - 14:54, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Henrik:

Would it be conceivable to add %QUERY and %UNLINKED too?

I will think if it is possible to implement it. The fact is
that for this I need to get a list of group members, and
the bot did not have such an opportunity.

Here's an approach that might work. When someone joins a group,
your bot knows it because you have to strip the "XXXX has joined
the chat" message. When that happens, save a record of that
incident for that TGUID. (?)




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Hi, August!

02 䥢 21 07:53, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Here's an approach that might work. When someone joins a group,
your bot knows it because you have to strip the "XXXX has joined
the chat" message. When that happens, save a record of that
incident for that TGUID. (?)

For new users, this may still work, but what about those who have been subscribed for a long time?

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, August!

02 䥢 21 07:53, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Here's an approach that might work. When someone joins a group,
your bot knows it because you have to strip the "XXXX has joined
the chat" message. When that happens, save a record of that
incident for that TGUID. (?)

For new users, this may still work, but what about those who have been subscribed for a long time?

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

Good point. Enabling a %LIST feature after the fact would miss all the people who had already joined groups/echos.

Maybe scour your BBS for the TGUID's that you *do* have for the messages that people have been detected in, and then do some kind of XOR to indentify the areas were they are NOT found. Then for the latter list, post a message indicating that your system has not detected any posts by that user in that group/echo - maybe just send back a list with an "*" next to the group/echo that is registered, and a "-" indicating the ones that have link-up. THEN, as if the "-" info is incorrect, ask the user to unjoin and rejoin?


--- tg BBS v0.6.3
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On 03 Feb 2021, August Abolins said the following...

Maybe scour your BBS for the TGUID's that you *do* have for the messages that people have been detected in, and then do some kind of XOR to indentify the areas were they are NOT found. Then for the latter list, post a message indicating that your system has not detected any posts by that user in that group/echo - maybe just send back a list with an "*" next to the group/echo that is registered, and a "-" indicating the ones that have link-up. THEN, as if the "-" info is incorrect, ask the user
to unjoin and rejoin?

That's an awfully complicated process. What exactly is the benefit?

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Hi, Henrik!

02 䥢 21 03:13, Henrik -> Stas Mishchenkov:

%HELP and %LIST are now available. Commands are recognized in chat
with Fido2telebot.

Would it be conceivable to add %QUERY and %UNLINKED too?

Now also available:

%QUERY <- List of areas which you are currently
linked to
%LINKED <- same as %QUERY
%UNLINKED <- List available areas which you are not
currently linked to

Please test this.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, August!

02 䥢 21 07:53, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Here's an approach that might work. When someone joins a group,
your bot knows it because you have to strip the "XXXX has joined
the chat" message. When that happens, save a record of that
incident for that TGUID. (?)

I am thinking of using this event to send echo rules.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, August!

03 䥢 21 16:58, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Good point. Enabling a %LIST feature after the fact would miss all
the people who had already joined groups/echos.

No.

Maybe scour your BBS for the TGUID's that you *do* have for the
messages
that people have been detected in, and then do some kind of XOR to indentify the areas were they are NOT found. Then for the latter list, post a message indicating that your system has not detected any posts by that user in that group/echo - maybe just send back a list with an "*" next to the group/echo that is registered, and a "-" indicating the ones that have link-up. THEN, as if the "-" info is incorrect, ask the user to unjoin and rejoin?

I've already implemented this in a slightly different way. I hope everyone does not like it and there will be wishes for improvement. ;)

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, August!

03 䥢 21 16:58, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Good point. Enabling a %LIST feature after the fact would miss all the people who had already joined groups/echos.

No.

Maybe scour your BBS for the TGUID's that you *do* have for the messages
that people have been detected in, and then do some kind of XOR to indentify the areas were they are NOT found. Then for the latter list,
post a message indicating that your system has not detected any posts by
that user in that group/echo - maybe just send back a list with an "*" next to the group/echo that is registered, and a "-" indicating the ones
that have link-up. THEN, as if the "-" info is incorrect, ask the user to
unjoin and rejoin?

I've already implemented this in a slightly different way. I hope everyone does not like it and there will be wishes for improvement. ;)

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

Good point. Enabling a%LIST feature after the fact would miss all the people who had already joined groups/echos.

No.

Then that is good. I thought you said "what about the people how have already joined".

Maybe scour your BBS for the TGUID's... THEN, as if the "-" info is incorrect, ask the user to unjoin and rejoin?

I've already implemented this in a slightly different way. I hope everyone does not like it and there will be wishes for improvement. ;)

I *do* like it, but I can't think of any improvement. ;)

Good to hear that there *was* a way to get a list of pre-existing joins per person!


--- tg BBS v0.6.3
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Hi, August!

03 䥢 21 22:00, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Then that is good. I thought you said "what about the people how have already joined".

First, I said this about another command; secondly, I've already found how to avoid it. ;)

Telegram now has the ability to check if a user is a member of a group. However, in order to build the %Linked list, I have to check all available groups, which causes a noticeable delay in the robot's response.

Maybe scour your BBS for the TGUID's... THEN, as if the "-" info is
incorrect, ask the user to unjoin and rejoin?

I've already implemented this in a slightly different way. I hope
everyone does not like it and there will be wishes for improvement. ;)

I *do* like it,

By the way, I remind you that in Telegram you can use BOLD (ITALIC and UNDERLINED) and this text will be highlighted in Fido. ;)

but I can't think of any improvement. ;)

I know it would be nice to add descriptions, but I'm not sure if I want to mess with it yet. ;)

Good to hear that there *was* a way to get a list of pre-existing
joins per person!

Have nice nights.
Brother Rabbit.

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Hi, August!

05 䥢 21 13:58, Brother Rabbit -> August Abolins:

but I can't think of any improvement. ;)

I know it would be nice to add descriptions, but I'm not sure if I want to mess with it yet. ;)

Descriptions added to the list of echo conferences. ;)

Have nice nights.
Brother Rabbit.

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Hello Brother!

** On Friday 05.02.21 - 17:39, Brother Rabbit wrote to August Abolins:

I know it would be nice to add descriptions, but I'm not sure if I want
to mess with it yet. ;)

Descriptions added to the list of echo conferences. ;)

Wow.. That didn't take long. Are you parsing the info from the
ELIST listings?



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Hi, August!

05 䥢 21 10:03, August Abolins -> Brother Rabbit:

Descriptions added to the list of echo conferences. ;)

Wow.. That didn't take long. Are you parsing the info from the
ELIST listings?

No, from the description of the group in Telegram.

Have nice nights.
Brother Rabbit.

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Hi, August!

05 䥢 21 10:03, August Abolins -> Brother Rabbit:

Descriptions added to the list of echo conferences. ;)

Wow.. That didn't take long. Are you parsing the info from the
ELIST listings?

No, from the description of the group in Telegram.

Have nice nights.
Brother Rabbit.

Ah.. so it's the same text that people see when they view the invite-link landing page and/or which is the same text in the "Group Info" panel?


--- tg BBS v0.6.3
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi, August!

05 䥢 21 19:21, August Abolins -> Brother Rabbit:

Wow.. That didn't take long. Are you parsing the info from the
ELIST listings?

No, from the description of the group in Telegram.

Ah.. so it's the same text that people see when they view the
invite-link
landing page and/or which is the same text in the "Group Info" panel?

Just try this. ;)

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, August!

03 䥢 21 22:00, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

I *do* like it, but I can't think of any improvement. ;)

By the way, one of the users has already discovered an interesting netmail gate feature. If you know how, you can write an e-mail from Telegram and even get an answer. ;)

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hello Stas!

** On Friday 05.02.21 - 22:05, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to August Abolins:

Ah.. so it's the same text that people see when they view
the invite-link landing page and/or which is the same text
in the "Group Info" panel?

Just try this. ;)

I'm the admin in most of them. I don't wan't to Leave and loose
that.

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Hello Stas!

** On Friday 05.02.21 - 22:09, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to August Abolins:

By the way, one of the users has already discovered an
interesting netmail gate feature. If you know how, you can
write an e-mail from Telegram and even get an answer. ;)

I tried the obvious:

==to: <emailaddress>==

But that did not appear to work.

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Hi, August!

05 䥢 21 16:47, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Ah.. so it's the same text that people see when they view
the invite-link landing page and/or which is the same text
in the "Group Info" panel?

Just try this. ;)

I'm the admin in most of them. I don't wan't to Leave and loose
that.

Why do you have to lose something? Just look in the %LISTIST and compare the descriptions from it with those that you have in Telegram. ;)

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, August!

05 䥢 21 16:49, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

By the way, one of the users has already discovered an
interesting netmail gate feature. If you know how, you can
write an e-mail from Telegram and even get an answer. ;)

I tried the obvious:

==to: <emailaddress>==

But that did not appear to work.

Obvious should be:

==To: e-mail gateaddress==

;)


Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, August!

05 䥢 21 16:49, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

By the way, one of the users has already discovered an
interesting netmail gate feature. If you know how, you can
write an e-mail from Telegram and even get an answer. ;)

I tried the obvious:

==to: <emailaddress>==

But that did not appear to work.

Obvious should be:

==To: e-mail gateaddress==

;)

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

Noted. But why bother with the gateaddress? Isn't it redundant? Isn't the bot tied to one gate already?


--- tg BBS v0.6.3
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Hello Stas!

** On Saturday 06.02.21 - 09:31, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to August Abolins:

Why do you have to lose something? Just look in the
%LISTIST and compare the descriptions from it with those
that you have in Telegram. ;)

Oh THAT list! I thought we were talking about the message that
one sees immediately after JOINing a group. And, inorder to see
that one, I assumed I had to LEAVE the group first.


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Hello Stas!

** On Saturday 06.02.21 - 09:32, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to August Abolins:

Obvious should be:

==To: e-mail gateaddress==

;)

I tried:

==to: e-mail 2:460/58==

Did not work.

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Hi, August!

05 䥢 21 16:49, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

By the way, one of the users has already discovered an
interesting netmail gate feature. If you know how, you can
write an e-mail from Telegram and even get an answer. ;)

I tried the obvious:

==to: <emailaddress>==

But that did not appear to work.

Obvious should be:

==To: e-mail gateaddress==

;)

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

OK. NEVERMIND! I figured it out. Not so obvious, but obvious when it worked. :D


--- tg BBS v0.6.3
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Hi, August!

06 䥢 21 09:27, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

==To: e-mail gateaddress==

;)

I tried:

==to: e-mail 2:460/58==

Did not work.

And it shouldn't. 2:460/58 does not have its own e-mail gate. ;)
But there are other nodes. They have.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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