• FidoGazette Vol 13 no 14 Page: 3

    From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to All on Wed Apr 3 20:54:24 2019


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    Updating Pages... and not...
    (The continuing saga)
    By Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, janis@filegate.net

    As I've mentioned in the Editorial, I've contacted Nick Andre
    and Ward Dossche about the pages in the Zone 1 section at
    fidonet.org.

    I've updated links, cleaned up old information and IMO improved
    the general look of the pages.

    The result? nada... crickets...

    Until someone contacts me about this, we're stuck with what's
    there... An embarrassment to everyone in Zone 1. Perhaps the
    owner of Fidonet.org (Ward) would like to have someone else do
    these pages? Fine by me, just let me know :)

    Some people yaw, bitch and moan about bad information on this
    site... the ball is in your court Ward and Nick :)















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    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Janis Kracht on Thu Apr 4 09:54:19 2019
    As I've mentioned in the Editorial, I've contacted Nick Andre
    and Ward Dossche about the pages in the Zone 1 section at
    fidonet.org.

    Actually, it was I who sent you a netmail explaining I had wrestled control over the domain and the website and told you if changes were to be applied to the Z1-portion they could now be included after being reviewed by ZC1:

    * You never answered that message.
    * You never sent me any draft updated site
    * You never cc-ed a mail you allegedly sent to Nick Andre, not in netmail,
    not in email.

    Some people yaw, bitch and moan about bad information on this
    site... the ball is in your court Ward and Nick :)

    Actually, you should post accurate information and not a lie such as ...

    "I've mentioned this in an email to Nick Andre and cc'd the email
    to Ward Dossche, who owns the domain now."

    You never sent such a cc to me.

    I don't understand your attempts at discrediting Nick, he's the first decent ZC1 in decades ... finally no weekly complaints anymore about the quality of the ZONE1-segment which now gets issued automatically, as a clockwork, on time.

    After failing in your FIDONEWS-putsch, failing to fuel zone-warz is running Nick out of town now your next objective?

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99 SR41
    * Origin: Ceci n'est pas un courriel (2:292/854)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Janis Kracht on Thu Apr 4 08:46:47 2019
    On 03 Apr 19 20:54:24, Janis Kracht said the following to All:

    As I've mentioned in the Editorial, I've contacted Nick Andre
    and Ward Dossche about the pages in the Zone 1 section at
    fidonet.org.

    I've updated links, cleaned up old information and IMO improved
    the general look of the pages.

    The result? nada... crickets...

    Janis - It is really unfortunate that your very neutral and friendly Fidogazette is now a soapbox place for you to once again go back to twisting and wordplay that you were famous for back in the days of the zone-wars.

    The truth is that you were very politely told in the private ZCC echo that Zone 1 pages I would review; and you were told in the Z1C echo that I have a very busy schedule. Its not going to happen overnight. Again you were politely reminded of this in FIDONET.ORG.

    This is not the first time you have acted this way towards me - You forward me a new Node application by Email that was received at Filegate, and then make it a public thing in the Z1C echo that I did not reply to your Email...... that you only sent me the night before.

    "This is a hobby" Janis, not a corporate IT department.

    Perhaps its time for you to switch off your computer and tend to your unfortunate personal situations and circumstances you "ranted" to me
    about in FIDONET.ORG instead of posting snide commentary.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Ward Dossche on Thu Apr 4 11:44:48 2019
    As I've mentioned in the Editorial, I've contacted Nick Andre
    and Ward Dossche about the pages in the Zone 1 section at
    fidonet.org.

    Actually, it was I who sent you a netmail explaining I had wrestled control over the domain and the website and told you if changes were to be applied
    to
    the Z1-portion they could now be included after being reviewed by ZC1:

    __Meanwhile, I contacted Nick and CC'd the email to you__ Here is EXACTLY what I said (forgive the shouting, but obviously something isn't right)... I sent the email to the both of you about 4 or 5 days ago.
    ===Cut here===
    Hi Nick,

    I hope all is going well

    Ward asked me to have you review the pages I've set up for the Zone 1 section of fidonet.org. The ones that are there are from very early work I did with html... and some are out of date

    You can see the pages I use now that I hoped we could set up at fidonet.org at this link:

    http://www.filegate.net/zone1/

    Let me know what you think, and then either I can zip up the pages or have Ward set up an account for me so that I can install them.

    Take care,
    Janis
    ===Cut here===

    * You never answered that message.
    * You never sent me any draft updated site
    * You never cc-ed a mail you allegedly sent to Nick Andre, not in netmail, not in email.

    You better check again, Ward.

    Some people yaw, bitch and moan about bad information on this
    site... the ball is in your court Ward and Nick :)

    Actually, you should post accurate information and not a lie such as ...

    "I've mentioned this in an email to Nick Andre and cc'd the email
    to Ward Dossche, who owns the domain now."

    You never sent such a cc to me.

    As I said, you better check again...

    I don't understand your attempts at discrediting Nick, he's the first decent ZC1 in decades ... finally no weekly complaints anymore about the quality of
    the ZONE1-segment which now gets issued automatically, as a clockwork, on time

    Why would I care to do that? You are doing a fine job of screwing this one up.

    After failing in your FIDONEWS-putsch, failing to fuel zone-warz is running Nick out of town now your next objective?

    Ross had some bad ideas way back, and the so called fidonews fiasco was one of them... he just wanted to see some content in Fidonews... Oh well.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Janis Kracht on Thu Apr 4 13:34:20 2019
    On 04 Apr 19 11:44:48, Janis Kracht said the following to Ward Dossche:

    __Meanwhile, I contacted Nick and CC'd the email to you__ Here is EXACTLY I said (forgive the shouting, but obviously something isn't right)... I
    sen
    the email to the both of you about 4 or 5 days ago.

    Yes... 4 or 5 days ago.

    And 4 or 5 days ago, I was awarded another tech-contract and have been racing around tending to this and other consulting projects of mine, as well as my daughter's extracurricular programs, the nattering and apparent senility of my parents (aka George's parents from Seinfeld) and some other things.

    My one-line post in Z1C that ******** I'M BUSY ******** seemed to of
    sufficed for the majority. I haven't even had time for my usual round of debauchery and self-gratification; apparently a broken ZC1 campaign promise.

    You said "purdy please" but forgot the cherry on top. I'll get to the website stuff when I get to it. Patience does not run in the Kracht family? How many severed horses heads have you been involved with?

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Nick Andre on Thu Apr 4 17:52:00 2019
    Hello Nick!

    ** 04.04.19 - 13:34, Nick Andre wrote to Janis Kracht:

    And 4 or 5 days ago, I was awarded another tech-contract..
    My one-line post in Z1C that ******** I'M BUSY ******** seemed to of sufficed for the majority. I haven't even had time for my usual..

    First of all, congrats on the award.

    But why do feel you need time to study Janis' work?

    All you have to do is give the head's up to Ward: "Hey, Ward.. make it
    so."

    All Janis needs are the FTP login particulars. That's Ward's task.

    If there is a problem with the pages, Janis can work on them.

    There will be plenty of eyes watching for any issues. In the meantime you can keep your eyes on your priorities.

    Regards,
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.36
    * Origin: /|ug's Point, ONT, CANADA (2:221/1.58)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to August Abolins on Thu Apr 4 23:28:38 2019
    On 04 Apr 19 17:52:00, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

    But why do feel you need time to study Janis' work?

    All you have to do is give the head's up to Ward: "Hey, Ward.. make it so."

    All Janis needs are the FTP login particulars. That's Ward's task.

    The arrangement discussed privately in the ZCC echo is that Zone 1 pages destined to be published/updated on fidonet.org will be reviewed by the ZC1.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)