• Get

    From Anton Shepelev@2:221/6 to All on Tue Aug 11 12:13:36 2020
    The word `get' is so cruelly overused in English that
    Ambrose Bierce, commenting on the phrase "to get married",
    asks the reader why not to say "to get dead", too. I
    therefore try to limit its office in my vocabulary to the
    immediate meaning of taking something. One phrase, however,
    makes me cudgel my brains -- "to get into a car". What
    literate synonyms can you propose for it without `get'? How
    about "to board"? But I fear it does not work for both
    passenger and driver. I got stuck...

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Anton Shepelev on Tue Aug 11 21:45:42 2020
    On 11/08/2020 5:13 a.m., Anton Shepelev : All wrote:


    The word!?! get' is so cruelly overused in English that Ambrose
    Bierce, commenting on the phrase "to get married", asks the
    reader why not to say "to get dead", too. I therefore try to
    limit its office in my vocabulary to the immediate meaning of
    taking something. One phrase, however, makes me cudgel my
    brains -- "to get into a car". What literate synonyms can you
    propose for it without!?! get'? How about "to board"? But I fear
    it does not work for both passenger and driver. I got stuck...

    English is such a hodge-podge of mixed rules and exceptions. I can empathize.

    How about the terms ingress and egress?

    Typically, they may refer to the ease or difficulty of getting in and out of "something", even in traffic. But I think you can make them work as a substitute for your needs.

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  • From Anton Shepelev@2:221/6 to August Abolins on Wed Aug 12 13:12:26 2020
    August Abolins to Anton Shepelev:

    The word `get' is so cruelly overused in English that
    Ambrose Bierce, commenting on the phrase "to get
    married", asks the reader why not to say "to get dead",
    too. I therefore try to limit its office in my
    vocabulary to the immediate meaning of taking
    something. One phrase, however, makes me cudgel my
    brains -- "to get into a car". What literate synonyms
    can you propose for it without `get'? How about "to
    board"? But I fear it does not work for both passenger
    and driver. I got stuck...

    How about the terms ingress and egress?

    I didn't know they could be verbs. But even if they can,
    are they transitive verbs? In other words, can one ingress
    a car without making fun of English grammar and himself?

    I first encountered the word `egress' in the scene in Moby
    Dick where Ishmael saw Bildad and Peleg quarrel over his
    `lay'.

    Typically, they may refer to the ease or difficulty of
    getting in and out of "something", even in traffic. But
    I think you can make them work as a substitute for your
    needs.

    These words refer to the acts of entrace and exit. I see
    nothing in their meanings that might be linked with the
    difficulty of entering or exiting...

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Anton Shepelev on Wed Aug 12 19:53:13 2020
    On 12/08/2020 6:12 a.m., Anton Shepelev : August Abolins wrote:

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    Heheheh! Touché

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Anton Shepelev on Mon Aug 24 01:25:56 2020
    On 8/12/2020 6:12 AM, between "Anton Shepelev : August Abolins":

    How about the terms ingress and egress?

    I didn't know they could be verbs. But even if they can,
    are they transitive verbs? In other words, can one ingress
    a car without making fun of English grammar and himself?

    By now, I am sure you found something like this:

    ingress

    (intransitive) To intrude or insert oneself
    (transitive, US, chiefly military) To enter (a specified location or area)
    (intransitive, astrology, of a planet) To enter into a zodiacal sign
    (Whiteheadian metaphysics) To manifest or cause to be manifested in the temporal world; to effect ingression
    Synonyms:
    get in, enter, get into, move into, pass into, go in, slip into, come into, go into, come in, set foot in, move in, pass in, pile in, pop in, rush in, step in, work in, make way into


    egress

    (intransitive) To exit or leave; to go or come out.
    Synonyms:
    emerge, flow, cascade, gush, stream, course, pour, spurt, issue, jet, proceed, ripple, run, spew, spill, spout, steam, deluge, discharge, emanate, emit, flood, ooze, overflow, roll, rush, sputter, stem, surge, teem, trickle, well, drift, drip, exude, leak, slip, squirt, swell, swirl, tumble, dribble, gurgle, regurgitate, whirl, well forth, well up, leak out, run out


    Typically, they may refer to the ease or difficulty of
    getting in and out of "something", even in traffic. But
    I think you can make them work as a substitute for your
    needs.

    These words refer to the acts of entrace and exit. I see
    nothing in their meanings that might be linked with the
    difficulty of entering or exiting...

    Sorry, I meant that I've only encountered them when people describe the ease or difficultly of getting in or out of cars - in automobile review, for example.

    So, maybe something like "egress from the car", or "ingress into the car." ???

    Going back to your original concern that "makes me cudgel my brains -- "to get into a car"", in my native Latvian we would litterally say "climb" for entering or exiting a vehicle."

    For example "Kap ara no masinas" (for "Climb out of the car."), or "Kap ieksa masina" (for "Climb in the car."

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