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    From Anton Shepelev@2:221/360 to Dallas Hinton on Sun Feb 16 20:50:16 2020
    Dallas Hinton:

    Oh yes, it's absolutely forbidden to touch a
    student -- which is a real problem for band teachers who
    sometimes need to guide fingers to the right positions.

    That is a tyranny of political correctness. When I was in
    ninth grade, my Russian-language teacher once zipped the
    zipper on my trousers without any hidden motive. The PC
    police would be enraged :-)

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  • From Anton Shepelev@2:221/360 to August Abolins on Sun Feb 16 21:03:42 2020
    August Abolins to Alexander Koryagin:

    I'm impressed with your likes. Ivanhoe is quite the epic
    and filled with very "formal" yet an ancient way of
    speaking and writing.

    formal *and* ancient, because most of the time formal usage
    is time-honoured usage.

    L-o-n-g sentences!

    But more amenable to parsing than, say, in M.R. James's
    "Jolly corner":

    He took it full in the face that something had happened
    between--that he couldn't have noticed before (by which he
    meant on his original tour of all the rooms that evening)
    that such a barrier had exceptionally presented itself.
    He had indeed since that moment undergone an agitation so
    extraordinary that it might have muddled for him any ear-
    lier view; and he tried to convince himself that he might
    perhaps then have gone into the room and, inadvertently,
    automatically, on coming out, have drawn the door after
    him. The difficulty was that this exactly was what he
    never did; it was against his whole policy, as he might
    have said, the essence of which was to keep vistas clear.
    He had them from the first, as he was well aware, quite on
    the brain: the strange apparition, at the far end of one
    of them, of his baffled "prey" (which had become by so
    sharp an irony so little the term now to apply!) was the
    form of success his imagination had most cherished, pro-
    jecting into it always a refinement of beauty. He had
    known fifty times the start of perception that had after-
    wards dropped; had fifty times gasped to himself.
    "There!" under some fond brief hallucination. The house,
    as the case stood, admirably lent itself; he might wonder
    at the taste, the native architecture of the particular
    time, which could rejoice so in the multiplication of
    doors--the opposite extreme to the modern, the actual
    almost complete proscription of them; but it had fairly
    contributed to provoke this obsession of the presence
    encountered telescopically, as he might say, focused and
    studied in diminishing perspective and as by a rest for
    the elbow.

    This entire paragraph feels to me like a bumpy road
    whereover one (I) can hardly walk wighout he trips all the
    time and falls often, hurting one's knees. I know this
    sentence is dubious, but plead to Edrawd Albee, who wrote
    (IIRC):

    A man can put up with only so much without he descends a
    rung or two down the old evolutionary ladder.

    -- a strange constuction, perhaps colloqual...

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  • From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/360 to Anton Shepelev on Sun Feb 16 21:10:18 2020
    Hi, Anton Shepelev! ->Dallas Hinton
    I read your message from 16.02.2020 21:50

    Oh yes, it's absolutely forbidden to touch a student -- which is a
    real problem for band teachers who sometimes need to guide fingers
    to the right positions.

    That is a tyranny of political correctness. When I was in ninth
    grade, my Russian-language teacher once zipped the zipper on my
    trousers without any hidden motive. The PC police would be enraged

    I believe it was a very cranky act. After all a ninth grader is almost a grown up person. Can you imagine such zipping, for instance, in the street? ;-) Any normal man would just say of the problem if he wants to help the unzipped somebody.

    Bye, Anton!
    Alexander Koryagin
    english_tutor 2020

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Anton Shepelev on Mon Feb 17 19:56:12 2020
    On 2/16/2020 2:03 PM, between "Anton Shepelev : August Abolins":

    But more amenable to parsing than, say, in M.R.
    James's "Jolly corner":

    [snip]

    This entire paragraph feels to me like a bumpy road
    whereover one (I) can hardly walk wighout he trips all the
    time and falls often, hurting one's knees. I know this
    sentence is dubious, but plead to Edrawd Albee, who wrote
    (IIRC):

    I concur. That example was brutal! and hard to remain interested in reading.

    It reminded me of "stream of consciousness" style of writing.


    A man can put up with only so much without he descends a
    rung or two down the old evolutionary ladder.

    That is probably why writers/authors need a good editor/publisher who can suggest improvements.


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