• Re: Getting rid of that f**king ethernet card

    From james@nospam.com@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:16:25 2019
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    Subject: Re: Getting rid of that f**king ethernet card
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    On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 06:45:46 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    james@nospam.com wrote:
    When I bought a computer, it came with an ethernet card installed. It
    also had XP pro Sp3 installed. Whoever installed XP apparently never
    needed that ethernet card, so they never installed the drivers for it.
    I've owned this computer for at least 3 years, and everytime I boot it,
    I have to face a message telling me i need to install that card, asking
    for drivers and all of that annoying shit. Everrytime I hit "Cancel" and
    everything works well, until I reboot again, and have to f**k with that
    goddamn driver crap.

    I dont use or need a network, and likely will never use it. But I did
    not want to just remove that card and throw it away, since there could
    come a time I need it, or sell the computer to someone who wants
    ethernet.

    Why the hell cant XP just accept the fact that I dont want to install
    the drivers for that card and shut the f**k up. However, I just had the
    case open, and decided it was time to rip that goodamn card out. I'm
    tired of f**king with the hassle.

    I think the people at Microsoft are idiots. They intentionally created
    Windows to annoy the hell out of their users. Why couldn't they just put
    a box to click that says "Dont bug me with this again".

    Anyhow, the card is removed. I'm trying to find a way to duct tape it
    inside the case where it wont cause problems. Otherwise it goes in the
    garbage.


    You could always ask about where to find a driver.

    Tell us what's printed on the top of the main chip.

    *******

    As for card storage, it goes into an antistatic bag, not
    into tinfoil. The antistatic bag dissipates charge slowly,
    so the peak current flow is lower than if handled otherwise.
    Tinfoil dissipates ESD too fast, causing a big surge
    of current to flow in diodes and burn a hole in the
    junction. And not all antistatic bags are equally effective,
    as on some, you have to touch and hold the *inside* of
    the bag, while loading and unloading items.

    Duct tape can generate local static charge, and the
    most poorly made chips only have a 1kV resistant
    to ESD. The better made ones (modern RS232 chips)
    are rated for 15kV and are harder to kill. Intentionally
    generating static with the right kind of clothing
    can generate sparks up to 50kV. Just for comparison.

    Paul

    That computer is not connected to the internet, and wont be. It's my
    safe storage machine. So I cant let it go online to DL the driver like
    is keeps wanting to do. But I can DL the driver (on this computer) and
    use a floppy or flash drive to copy it over there.

    The card has D-Link stamped on the metal part. The main (big) chip says DL10038D.The board has these numbers too: DFE-530TX+ Rev E1.

    There are also some bar codes in the rear, that are glued to the board.
    But I wont bother to type them, unless needed.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    Subject: Re: Getting rid of that f**king ethernet card
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    On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:05:52 -0600, james@nospam.com wrote:

    On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 06:45:46 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    james@nospam.com wrote:
    When I bought a computer, it came with an ethernet card installed. It
    also had XP pro Sp3 installed. Whoever installed XP apparently never
    needed that ethernet card, so they never installed the drivers for it.
    I've owned this computer for at least 3 years, and everytime I boot it,
    I have to face a message telling me i need to install that card, asking
    for drivers and all of that annoying shit. Everrytime I hit "Cancel" and >>> everything works well, until I reboot again, and have to f**k with that
    goddamn driver crap.

    I dont use or need a network, and likely will never use it. But I did
    not want to just remove that card and throw it away, since there could
    come a time I need it, or sell the computer to someone who wants
    ethernet.

    Why the hell cant XP just accept the fact that I dont want to install
    the drivers for that card and shut the f**k up. However, I just had the
    case open, and decided it was time to rip that goodamn card out. I'm
    tired of f**king with the hassle.

    I think the people at Microsoft are idiots. They intentionally created
    Windows to annoy the hell out of their users. Why couldn't they just put >>> a box to click that says "Dont bug me with this again".

    Anyhow, the card is removed. I'm trying to find a way to duct tape it
    inside the case where it wont cause problems. Otherwise it goes in the
    garbage.


    You could always ask about where to find a driver.

    Tell us what's printed on the top of the main chip.

    *******

    As for card storage, it goes into an antistatic bag, not
    into tinfoil. The antistatic bag dissipates charge slowly,
    so the peak current flow is lower than if handled otherwise.
    Tinfoil dissipates ESD too fast, causing a big surge
    of current to flow in diodes and burn a hole in the
    junction. And not all antistatic bags are equally effective,
    as on some, you have to touch and hold the *inside* of
    the bag, while loading and unloading items.

    Duct tape can generate local static charge, and the
    most poorly made chips only have a 1kV resistant
    to ESD. The better made ones (modern RS232 chips)
    are rated for 15kV and are harder to kill. Intentionally
    generating static with the right kind of clothing
    can generate sparks up to 50kV. Just for comparison.

    Paul

    That computer is not connected to the internet, and wont be. It's my
    safe storage machine. So I cant let it go online to DL the driver like
    is keeps wanting to do. But I can DL the driver (on this computer) and
    use a floppy or flash drive to copy it over there.

    The card has D-Link stamped on the metal part. The main (big) chip says >DL10038D.The board has these numbers too: DFE-530TX+ Rev E1.

    There are also some bar codes in the rear, that are glued to the board.
    But I wont bother to type them, unless needed.

    You should be able to disable it on the control panel and it will
    leave you alone.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
  • From james@nospam.com@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:16:28 2019
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    From: james@nospam.com
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    Subject: Re: Getting rid of that f**king ethernet card
    Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 21:30:16 -0600
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    On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 21:33:42 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:05:52 -0600, james@nospam.com wrote:

    On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 06:45:46 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    james@nospam.com wrote:
    When I bought a computer, it came with an ethernet card installed. It
    also had XP pro Sp3 installed. Whoever installed XP apparently never
    needed that ethernet card, so they never installed the drivers for it. >>>> I've owned this computer for at least 3 years, and everytime I boot it, >>>> I have to face a message telling me i need to install that card, asking >>>> for drivers and all of that annoying shit. Everrytime I hit "Cancel" and >>>> everything works well, until I reboot again, and have to f**k with that >>>> goddamn driver crap.

    I dont use or need a network, and likely will never use it. But I did
    not want to just remove that card and throw it away, since there could >>>> come a time I need it, or sell the computer to someone who wants
    ethernet.

    Why the hell cant XP just accept the fact that I dont want to install
    the drivers for that card and shut the f**k up. However, I just had the >>>> case open, and decided it was time to rip that goodamn card out. I'm
    tired of f**king with the hassle.

    I think the people at Microsoft are idiots. They intentionally created >>>> Windows to annoy the hell out of their users. Why couldn't they just put >>>> a box to click that says "Dont bug me with this again".

    Anyhow, the card is removed. I'm trying to find a way to duct tape it
    inside the case where it wont cause problems. Otherwise it goes in the >>>> garbage.


    You could always ask about where to find a driver.

    Tell us what's printed on the top of the main chip.

    *******

    As for card storage, it goes into an antistatic bag, not
    into tinfoil. The antistatic bag dissipates charge slowly,
    so the peak current flow is lower than if handled otherwise.
    Tinfoil dissipates ESD too fast, causing a big surge
    of current to flow in diodes and burn a hole in the
    junction. And not all antistatic bags are equally effective,
    as on some, you have to touch and hold the *inside* of
    the bag, while loading and unloading items.

    Duct tape can generate local static charge, and the
    most poorly made chips only have a 1kV resistant
    to ESD. The better made ones (modern RS232 chips)
    are rated for 15kV and are harder to kill. Intentionally
    generating static with the right kind of clothing
    can generate sparks up to 50kV. Just for comparison.

    Paul

    That computer is not connected to the internet, and wont be. It's my
    safe storage machine. So I cant let it go online to DL the driver like
    is keeps wanting to do. But I can DL the driver (on this computer) and
    use a floppy or flash drive to copy it over there.

    The card has D-Link stamped on the metal part. The main (big) chip says >>DL10038D.The board has these numbers too: DFE-530TX+ Rev E1.

    There are also some bar codes in the rear, that are glued to the board.
    But I wont bother to type them, unless needed.

    You should be able to disable it on the control panel and it will
    leave you alone.

    I thought I accomplished that several times. It seems to always come
    back to haunt me. Maybe I dont know the real trick to doing it???

    Leaving it unplugged is probably the best, I imagine all cards do use
    some power, so I may be savihg a few cents on my electric bill without
    it, but If I cant find a way to fasten it inside the computer case, I
    may as well toss it in the trash, cuz I'll never find it at a later
    date, if I just toss it in a box.

    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    From: Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
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    Subject: Re: Getting rid of that f**king ethernet card
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    james@nospam.com wrote:
    On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 06:45:46 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    james@nospam.com wrote:
    When I bought a computer, it came with an ethernet card installed. It
    also had XP pro Sp3 installed. Whoever installed XP apparently never
    needed that ethernet card, so they never installed the drivers for it.
    I've owned this computer for at least 3 years, and everytime I boot it,
    I have to face a message telling me i need to install that card, asking
    for drivers and all of that annoying shit. Everrytime I hit "Cancel" and >>> everything works well, until I reboot again, and have to f**k with that
    goddamn driver crap.

    I dont use or need a network, and likely will never use it. But I did
    not want to just remove that card and throw it away, since there could
    come a time I need it, or sell the computer to someone who wants
    ethernet.

    Why the hell cant XP just accept the fact that I dont want to install
    the drivers for that card and shut the f**k up. However, I just had the
    case open, and decided it was time to rip that goodamn card out. I'm
    tired of f**king with the hassle.

    I think the people at Microsoft are idiots. They intentionally created
    Windows to annoy the hell out of their users. Why couldn't they just put >>> a box to click that says "Dont bug me with this again".

    Anyhow, the card is removed. I'm trying to find a way to duct tape it
    inside the case where it wont cause problems. Otherwise it goes in the
    garbage.

    You could always ask about where to find a driver.

    Tell us what's printed on the top of the main chip.

    *******

    As for card storage, it goes into an antistatic bag, not
    into tinfoil. The antistatic bag dissipates charge slowly,
    so the peak current flow is lower than if handled otherwise.
    Tinfoil dissipates ESD too fast, causing a big surge
    of current to flow in diodes and burn a hole in the
    junction. And not all antistatic bags are equally effective,
    as on some, you have to touch and hold the *inside* of
    the bag, while loading and unloading items.

    Duct tape can generate local static charge, and the
    most poorly made chips only have a 1kV resistant
    to ESD. The better made ones (modern RS232 chips)
    are rated for 15kV and are harder to kill. Intentionally
    generating static with the right kind of clothing
    can generate sparks up to 50kV. Just for comparison.

    Paul

    That computer is not connected to the internet, and wont be. It's my
    safe storage machine. So I cant let it go online to DL the driver like
    is keeps wanting to do. But I can DL the driver (on this computer) and
    use a floppy or flash drive to copy it over there.

    The card has D-Link stamped on the metal part. The main (big) chip says DL10038D.The board has these numbers too: DFE-530TX+ Rev E1.

    There are also some bar codes in the rear, that are glued to the board.
    But I wont bother to type them, unless needed.


    https://wikidevi.com/wiki/D-Link_DFE-530TX%2B_rev_E1

    Linux driver 8139too <--- That tells you it's a RealTek 8139 PCI

    Windows: PCI\VEN_1186&DEV_1300&SUBSYS_13011186

    1300 RTL8139 Ethernet
    1186 1300 DFE-538TX 10/100 Ethernet Adapter
    1186 1301 DFE-530TX+ 10/100 Ethernet Adapter
    1186 1303 DFE-528TX 10/100 Fast Ethernet PCI Adapter

    Now, if we use an actual RealTek driver, the VEN is 10EC, not 1186.
    so a RealTek driver wouldn't work unless you hacked the INF.

    *******

    This is your driver. This just about killed me. I must have had
    20 false starts and ratholes.

    dfe530TX+_driver_5397.exe

    "D-Link DFE-530TX LAN Driver 5397"

    http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/NETWORK-CARD/DLINK/D-Link-DFE-530TX.shtml

    http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/NETWORK-CARD/DLINK/D-Link-DFE-530TX.shtml#down load

    605 KB file size

    This download is provided to you FREE of charge.

    Inside the WinXP folder, you will find

    NETDLKR5.INF

    which says

    [D-Link]
    %DFE530.DeviceDesc% = DFE530.ndi, PCI\VEN_1186&DEV_1300
    %DFE530_A.DeviceDesc% = DFE530_A.ndi, PCI\VEN_1186&DEV_1300&SUBSYS_13011186 <--- match!!!
    %DFE530_A.DeviceDesc% = DFE530_A.ndi, PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8139&SUBSYS_13011186

    If the install.exe doesn't work, you can
    always try an INF install by right-clicking the
    INF file in the "Winxp" folder.

    Paul
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
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